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David Segal

Posted: March 15, 2010 09:49 AM

Democrats: To Break Up the (Tea) Party, Stop Locking People Up

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"We do not touch social issues, typically speaking, because once we do that's when you lose people, divide people." So announced Amy Kremer from the stage last month's Tea Party Convention.

Kremer knows well the fragility of her kinda-movement, with all of its internecine squabbles: She's the organizer of Tea Party Express -- a nation-wide anti-tax bus tour -- even while being sued by Tea Party Patriots, of which she was a former board member.

The power of the Tea Party as such -- if such a thing exists "as such" -- has been overblown, but the attention it's getting is indeed indicative of a broader populist angst of which incumbents surely must take heed.

The funders of the Tea Party are of the intransigent far right, but it's imprudent to dismiss all of the popular consternation -- and every person who's attended a rally or who voted for Ron Paul -- as essentially reactionary. Most tellingly, polls consistently show a plurality of independents holding a favorable opinion of the movement's aims. (As a former Green, I've had quite a few conversations with people who voted for Nader in 2000 or 2004, and then Paul in 2008. While I think they were misguided, those votes were expressing something very different than the Left's caricature of the underpinnings of contemporary popular angst.)

Last month's convention was notable for how much time was devoted to consideration of how to hold together the strong-willed, and frequently headstrong, members of the movement, and maintain surprisingly high levels of legitimacy in the minds of rank-and-file voters. It was rife with lofty platitudes about agreeing to disagree, and pledges to abide by paraphrases of Ronald Reagan's 11th Commandment: "Thou shalt not speak ill of another conservative."

All the more evidence that Democrats can and should break up the party by taking aggressive stands on those issues that'll pry loose social libertarians. And foremost, we should quit locking people up for no good reason.

While most self-identifying right and center-right populists are anti-tax and anti-stimulus (at least until they reap the benefits) many want the government not just out of their pocket books, but out of their social lives altogether. Many prioritize the latter -- concerns to which Democrats are far more likely than Republicans to respond.

We should exploit the opening by passing medical marijuana laws, and decriminalizing marijuana more generally, rolling back blue laws, ceasing to imprison people for sex work, and reducing other forms of social paternalism. (In my state of Rhode Island, this should have meant refusing even to criminalize prostitution, as we did last year after 30 years of legalization; other states are sure to have their own idiosyncrasies.)

Like good Democrats, we'd be doing right by some of our most disenfranchised constituents -- with the bonus that in the process, we'd gain esteem with the civil-libertarian strain that runs at varying depth through the blocs of self-identifying independents and conservatives, and even members of the Tea Party. With more than 2.3 million people in prison at a cost of tens of thousands of dollars per head, and millions more moving through the courts each year, we'd be able to increase our claim to the mantle of fiscal responsibility.

Medical marijuana ought to be a given: With a January ABC/Washington Post poll showing nearly 90% of liberals and moderates in support, and nearly 7 out of 10 self-identifying conservatives, there's much for Democrats to gain, and very little to lose. At almost as high a rate -- upwards of 75% -- Americans oppose jailing those arrested for possession of small amounts of marijuana.

There wasn't much scientific polling done on last year's criminalization of prostitution in Rhode Island, but a consistent two thirds of the strongly anti-tax, anti-union, anti-Democratic sorts who tend to answer polls on the Providence Journal's website were against making prostitution illegal -- and even more people opposed incarcerating people for it. As I go campaigning this summer, my stand against putting women in prison will be the first thing I mention to any voter who owns a "Don't Tread on Me" doormat.

Unfortunately, many Democrats seem to be taking all the wrong lessons from the Coakley-Brown debacle in Massachusetts: They're in retreat -- even more risk-averse than usual, and refusing to take stands on (seemingly) controversial issues. But Coakley didn't lose because she wasn't cautious enough. Democrats need to show voters that we have some real fight, and in the realm of criminal justice reform, we can do so by standing by our ideals, even while tapping into the pervasive populist anger and blunting the electoral impact of the right come November.

 
"We do not touch social issues, typically speaking, because once we do that's when you lose people, divide people." So announced Amy Kremer from the stage last month's Tea Party Convention. Kremer k...
"We do not touch social issues, typically speaking, because once we do that's when you lose people, divide people." So announced Amy Kremer from the stage last month's Tea Party Convention. Kremer k...
 
 
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07:03 PM on 04/11/2010
My hope is that the tea partiers will all refuse to fill out their census forms. Then their Congressional districts will receive less federal funding (much of which goes to the state government to fund their programs) and find out what it is like living without 'big government'. It would also result in fewer congressional seats in their states, helping to curb their ability to impact the rest of society.
banana republican
Provoking Progressives with unwelcome perspectives
06:57 AM on 04/11/2010
Personal wealth, even minimal amounts = independence = freedom.

Socialism, even minimal amounts = dependence = servitude.

The Obamamerican dream for you is an eco-friendly 800 sq ft appartment with a government controlled thermostate and nearby public transportation so you'll have a way to go downtown for your free health care.

If your life's aspirations are higher than that - join a Tea Party.
06:39 PM on 04/11/2010
This reflects the most simplistic of views and a complete lack of understanding of complex systems.

A simple argument. Wealthy people still get cancer. Their unregulated insurers deny them coverage for treatment. The unregulated hospitals and doctors charge huge fees for providing diagnostics and treatments. Wealthy people suddenly become poor people. This story plays out regularly in the united states. Go unregulated free markets!

A wealthy person buys a house. A more wealthy person buys the neighboring land and builds chemical plants discharging toxic chemicals into the water and soil (only a socialist would prevent them from exercising their rights to do so). The value of the first wealth person's house drops to nothing, hence a large portion of their wealth is gone. The toxins cause illnesses for their entire family but they can't afford to move. Go unregulated free markets!

There will always be someone wealthier and more powerful than you that can control your life, whether you like it or not. Wake up.
banana republican
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06:40 AM on 04/11/2010
I'm a moderate Democrat who believes in strong government regulation of most economic issues including wages, corporate profits, and healthcare. I support the Tea Party because this Administration wants to control these things by having the money pass through government hands where it inevitably gets spent to buy votes and reward contributors to campaigns.
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RacerX
E pluribus unum
12:04 PM on 04/11/2010
Your credibility is suspect by calling out this administration. Big business owns all of our politicians (with a very few exceptions) - not just this administration and I think that is most people's problem with the Tea Partiers. Until the unhealthy alliance of big business and politics (think K-Street lobbyists) is undone and government again serves the people then we will not be able to take back our country. This not a democratic problem this is also a republican problem and railing away at only one side that uses political favors to "buy votes and reward contributors to campaigns" while ignoring the very same thing within the other side makes most of us distrustful of the true motivations of the Tea Party. If the Tea Party was to truly denounce both of our political parties and kick out the opportunistic parasites from the right then I think we'd see a groundswell of support of historic proportions and some good may come out of the movement.
09:56 PM on 04/10/2010
You neglected to mention *the* most essential problem about our prison system - who are these people behind bars? The disproportionate number of African American men in prison shows how deeply racism is ingrained in our society. In fact, we have institutionalized it. Our laws support it (such as the different sentences for crack vs. powder cocaine), statistics show it (harsher sentences for black men vs. white men for identical crimes), and our culture condones it (mostly by ignoring it, but also by perpetuating myths about the character of black men). And guess what these African American men are doing in prison? Slave labor. Coincidence? I don't think so.
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08:34 PM on 04/10/2010
We should also start a Buy American campaign. Supporting American industry is something I am sure will appeal to the patriotic Tea Partiers and separate them from their right-wing exploiters. After all it was a republican President who said that: "The material foundation of our national safety is a strong and expanding economy."

Of course he also said things like:

"America's leadership and prestige depend, not merely upon our unmatched material progress, riches and military strength, but on how we use our power in the interests of world peace and human betterment."

"Like every other citizen, I wish the new President, and all who will labor with him, Godspeed. I pray that the coming years will be blessed with peace and prosperity for all."

And he believed that every citizen had a duty to the nation and that it wise to seek balance...

"But each proposal must be weighed in the light of a broader consideration: the need to maintain balance in and among national programs-balance between the private and the public economy, balance between cost and hoped for advantage-balance between the clearly necessary and the comfortably desirable; balance between our essential requirements as a nation and the duties imposed by the nation upon the individual; balance between action of the moment and the national welfare of the future. Good judgment seeks balance and progress; lack of it eventually finds imbalance and frustration."
10:19 PM on 04/10/2010
The days of having an industrial economy are OVER. The areas in which we have a chance to make meaningful progress (and even gazillions of $$) are science/medicine and technology. Both India and China will very soon be ahead of us in these crucial arenas. The problem is that our educational system is still more or less worker training rather than teaching kids how to solve problems and think critically, not to mention that our 'education' is basically consumer training, too. Conservatives are to blame, their subservience to religion and longing to return to 1950's America (sorry, folks, it just is NOT going to happen and thank your gods for that!). Unfortunately, conservatives have a LOT of power on the local level (school boards, etc.) and as a result, the average college freshman is basically illiterate, ignorant of scientific knowledge, and can be spoon-fed and regurgitate but cannot write, solve a problem or have an original thought. If we want to improve our economy, we are going to have to turn off the TV, open our minds as wide as possible, and get to work!
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11:33 AM on 04/11/2010
Again this comes back to balance - while I agree science/medicine (my current field) and technology (my field for over 20 years) are the paths to future economic progress they alone cannot sustain our current labor force nor will they in the future. Someone needs to manufacture the electronics and equipment needed to support these industries. Outsourcing this function undermines the middle class and perpetuates the very same erosion of jobs that everyone is so frustrated with. What's wrong with buying American and ensuring our dollars stay home to support Americans? If that sounds like protectionism so be it - I believe in a strong America and so does the Tea Party - and that's my point.
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Michael Shatz
07:16 PM on 04/10/2010
I have always thought that incarceration should be reserved for the violent people, the sexual predators and the thieves. We, as a nation, lock up more people than any other nation in the world combined, including Russia and China. Many of these people belong behind bars, but plenty of them do not. By reducing the number of petty offenders we incarcerate, we create more space and money to hold the truly dangerous people longer, which keeps us all safer....
04:40 PM on 03/19/2010
I couldn't agree more. Democrats/Progressives/Liberals need to stand up and lead more. The first year of the Obama presidency was too full of bi-partisanship attempts when it was clear the Republicans did want to anything to do with it.
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12:38 PM on 03/18/2010
Well said!

Please click on the inks and help.

Abolish the ONDCP
http://www.change.org/actions/view/tired_of_being_lied_to_do_away_with_the_drug_czar

Free Henry Walter Wooten, 35 yers for possession of pot is too much!
http://war.change.org/actions/view/free_henry_walter_wooten

Petition for a legal right to use drugs in religion.
http://criminaljustice.change.org/actions/view/to_establish_the_use_of_drugs_licit_or_otherwise_as_a_religious_right_under_law

Thanks
08:18 AM on 03/16/2010
The Tea Party will hold together because they will all support the 6 Principles of the Constitution.


The 6 Basic Principles of the Constitution

1) Popular Sovereignty - The government only has the power to make decisions because the people who are governed by them give them the power to do so but if the government abuses the power that they have been given the people have the right to overthrow their government and change it.

2) Limited Government - The overall theme of this principle is that the government must follow the law. The government must follow all constitutional laws and principles for it to be able to have control over the people and to make decisions.

3) Separation of Powers - This is called a presidential system where the three powers are separated into three distinct and independent branches. Our constitution distributes the powers of the National Government among Congress, the President, and the courts.

4) Checks and Balances - The government is organized around three separate branches.

5) Judicial Review - The power of judicial review is the power of courts to determine whether what government does is in accord with what the constitution provides.

6) Federalism - The principle of federalism is the division of power among a central government and several regional government. By spreading the powers throughout the different states the Framers of the constitution built a stronger, more effective national government while preserving the existing states and the concept
11:09 AM on 03/16/2010
taggartsteel

1) on popular sovereignty- We are and have been weakening our government
for a long time. the only way our government can be strong is through
taxes, which come from the healthy, wealthy tax payer. We want to cut
taxes but when we cut taxes we cut out jobs at the post office, a computerized system of taking care of vets, the repair of bridges and interstates and the jobs that go with them. The notion that we don't want bigger government is the notion that all bigger government will be secret agents coming to get our guns. Thats what corporations want you to think because the more they keep government from regulating them, by rendering us (our government) weak the more they have a freehand to do as they please.

3) on seperation of powers- the system was meant to keep us at an even keel, so that all sides were accounted for and could argue their position but we the people, are very little represented anymore because, the government that we are so scared of, is really very weak and over run by corporate lobbyists and the politicians they pay to have elected. Watch and see if those same banks that just raped us gets any vast regulation.

Our government is us. Even the guy that works at the FBI is us, our bro, sis, cousin, and guess what? He aint givin up his guns either!
01:00 PM on 03/16/2010
1) We have an unfair tax system with over 67000 pages of tax codes. This allows for those who should pay to pay less than they should. The middle class shoulders the burdon of a corrupt system.

It is overly complicated and increasingly you need a professional to "do" your taxes.

We must switch to a Fair Tax.

3) The government has pulled all the power to Washington, creating a system that easily corrupted by lobbiest from corporations AND unions.

We need to push the power to govern back to the states for everything that isn't listed as a power of the federal government.
06:42 AM on 03/16/2010
These former Nader voters in 2000 and 2004 who vote for Ron Paul 2008 where not misguided in any way as Nader and Paul are much more closer to each other than for example Nader and Obama are or Paul and McCain are.

Its the issues not the parties that matter to people who vote for Nader or Paul. They agree on 4 key issues: change of foreign policy (bring the troops home), privacy (repeal the Patriot Act), the deficits (stop spending), and the FED (put FED in control). See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3HwQtLFLbo

Both Obama and McCain really agreed on all of these issues even when Obama was little bit playing the Peace Candidates and saying that Patriot Act should be repealed which of course was complete lie on Obama part as we all now know. People who supported Nader and Paul knew that Obama is not really for Change and they knew and still of course know that Obama and McCain are very similar on real issues.

In this same logic it can be said that this the reason why Dennis Kucinich said that if he would win the Presidential nominee of Dems 2008 he would choose Ron Paul as his running mate as Kucinich and Paul are much more similar than for example Obama and Kucinich. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Kucinich_presidential_campaign,_2008#Endorsements_of_other_candidates

Ron Paul/Dennis Kucinich 2012!
03:30 PM on 03/15/2010
Marijuana and prostitution should be legal.

But the thing that personally annoys me the most is the unconstitutional spying on Americans. There needs to be more people in government that actually respect our privacy rights.
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02:17 PM on 03/15/2010
As I see it, the Tea Party has three factions:

1. The original base that simply wants a balanced budget, end to spending, smaller govt. and constitutionally sound legistlation;

2. The money people. Anything they perceive as a govt attempt to threaten their pots of gold or interferes with increasing the size of that pot is bad, including having to share a portion of that gold with anyone.

3. The nutty faction. There are socialists and communists on every corner, bent on the destruction of the country, seizing your wealth, controlling every aspect of your lives and taking away your freedom.

Sadly, these three factions cannot coexist together as anything more than an angry mob with three seperate contradicting agendas..the only comonalities they share are anger, hatred and selfishness which are little more than a self-destructive mix that forms a poor foundation for any party.
12:53 AM on 03/16/2010
It's like you just detailed a Tea Sampler at a restaurant...I prefer to follow the Nutty Tea Faction, it's always good for a laugh.
06:59 PM on 04/11/2010
All too true. Alas, the Money people have the media assets to perpetuate the fears of the nutty people
01:13 PM on 03/15/2010
The tea bagger movement is simply an extension of the repub party. They dont make a difference they are repubs and that is how they will vote. They may elect a tea bagger in the primary, which might be a good thing for the dems. Tea baggers arent the way forward for America, these ppl and their ideas represent the past. the tea bag party is old, fat and white, and will drop out of view shortly.
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jsgaetano
Semper Fidelis Tyrannosaurus!
01:04 PM on 03/15/2010
Any reason is a good reason to lock up a Teabagger.

People with that much hate don't deserve to be around sane people.
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Anne Johnson
Fairly Unbalanced
01:02 PM on 03/15/2010
The tea partiers are about freedom for themselves not other people. They are just a bunch of right wingers who are upset that there is no republican in the white house. If McCain had won the election this group would not even exist today. Most of them are against gay marriage and pot legalization. They want to keep their guns but would happily let the government raid your home for a small amount of marijuana. They're a bunch of hypocrites.