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Dean Baker

Posted: June 21, 2010 11:36 AM

America Speaks Back: Derailing the Drive to Cut Social Security and Medicare

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Next weekend will feature another milestone in the drive to cut Social Security and Medicare. The organization America Speaks will be hosting a series of 20 meetings in cities across the country. They will ask the people at these meetings, a cross section of the nation, to come up with proposals for dealing with the country's projected long-term budget deficit.

The way the problem is outlined for these meetings virtually guarantees that most of the participants will opt for big cuts to Social Security and Medicare. The results of this song-and-dance exercise will then be presented to President Obama's fiscal responsibility commission on June 30th, which will use it as further ammunition for plans by its co-chairs to gut these programs.

The rigged deck approach should come as no surprise. America Speaks is largely funded by Peter G. Peterson, the investment banker billionaire who has been on a decades long crusade to gut these programs. In recent years, Peterson has redoubled his efforts, committing more than a billion dollars to a wide variety of groups in addition to America Speaks. To advance his agenda Peterson has even set up a fake news service, the Fiscal Times. To fill the staff, Peterson's son hired a number of reputable reporters who were displaced by the collapse of the newspaper industry.

Federal Budget 101, the guidebook for the discussion, follows a predictably shoddy path. The book discusses the budget in almost complete isolation from any larger discussion of the economy. There is virtually no discussion of the ways in which the budget fosters growth, for example by funding education, research and infrastructure; nor the way in which the pattern of growth affects the budget.

For example, the booklet never discusses the extent to which the economic mismanagement that allowed the unchecked growth of an $8 trillion housing bubble contributed to the debt that is its central concern. The downturn caused by the resulting economic collapse will eventually add more than $3 trillion to the country's debt, according to the Congressional Budget Office's projections.

The booklet also neglects to point out the extent to which the long-term budget disaster story is driven by our broken health care system. If per person health care costs in the United States were the same as in any other wealthy country, we would be looking at enormous budget surpluses in the long-term, not deficits.

Incredibly, the booklet does not even point out the fact that income is projected to grow over time. The average hourly wage is projected to buy 20 percent more in 2025 (the year for which participants are supposed to design a budget) than it does today.

This knowledge might affect how people view things like tax increases. For example, if we know that people will be on average 20 percent richer, we might be less concerned if their tax rate were to rise by 1-2 percentage points.

The booklet also never mentions the plunge in wealth that older workers have suffered as a result of the collapse of the housing bubble and plunge in the stock market. This has left the bulk of near retirees (those in their late 40s and 50s) facing retirement with almost nothing other than their Social Security and Medicare.

The booklet even gets its basic economics wrong, warning participants at the very beginning that rising deficits can lead to a weaker dollar. In the real econ 101, students learn just the opposite -- that budget deficits can jack up interest rates leading to a stronger dollar. This is how a budget deficit can be tied to a trade deficit -- by raising the value of the dollar. A higher dollar makes U.S. exports more expensive to foreigners and imports cheaper for people living in the United States.

People who want to see our trade deficit fall want a lower dollar. Getting the value of the dollar down (not up) is an argument that more serious people would give for a smaller budget deficit. Peterson should have been able to get a better product for his millions.

Finally, it is striking that not a single person connected with this project was among those who warned of the housing bubble before its collapse wrecked the economy. Ostensibly, America Speaks tried to include a diverse range of economists and policy analysts. Yet, in the category of people who recognized the biggest economic disaster of the last 80 years, America Speaks came up completely empty.

To put this in perspective, suppose Peter Peterson had funded this exercise back in 2004, when the housing bubble was already huge, but still at a point where it could have been deflated without devastating the economy. This group would have given us a great discussion of the 2020 deficit, but said nothing about the tsunami that was about to wreck the economy (and send the deficit skyrocketing).

Unfortunately, there is no reason to assume that the America Speaks crew's understanding of the economy is any better today than it was in 2004. We need more serious analysis than this propaganda exercise as a basis for deciding the fate of essential programs like Social Security and Medicare.

 
Next weekend will feature another milestone in the drive to cut Social Security and Medicare. The organization America Speaks will be hosting a series of 20 meetings in cities across the country. They...
Next weekend will feature another milestone in the drive to cut Social Security and Medicare. The organization America Speaks will be hosting a series of 20 meetings in cities across the country. They...
 
 
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Democrat in the South
Empathy, the most important word
09:28 AM on 06/28/2010
"virtual0 You don't understand why Obama is doing this because you still don't understand Obama. Obama is a con artist who doesn't give a sh*t about the average American. He cares only about perpetuating his own power and cozying with the moneyed elite to ensure it. The only thing that motivates him is enhancing his own power and image; there is nothing he has done or will do that truly helps the average American, particularly if it means annoying the moneyed elite, his ticket to power.
Obama: a vacuous opportunist, a good performer, a con artist with an empty rhetoric of hope and change

"I?ve never been an Obama supporter. I?ve known him since the very beginning of his political career, which was his campaign for the seat in my state senate district in Chicago. He struck me then as a vacuous opportunist, a good performer with an ear for how to make white liberals like him. I argued at the time that his fundamental political center of gravity, beneath an empty rhetoric of hope and change and new directions, is neoliberal…"

Obama "IS" successful. He "IS the most powerful man in the world and he DID make "white liberals" like him, after all, he did get 70% of the white vote? You speak of Obama in the past tense. He does not "want" to succeed in the areas you describe, "he HAS succeeded"! And he HAS done more for the Americans than any politician in decades.
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dagmaclugh39
Nomen est omen.
12:33 AM on 06/28/2010
"He who dies with the most toys is the winner." That's the rich man's "philosophy." Unfortunately, too many Americans have bought into it, confusing greed with quality. In ancient Athens, a rich man was expected to finance artistic endeavors, or equip and lead a military force into battle. Were he to selfishly wallow in riches, he'd be looked upon with contempt.
We need to change our definition of success from private enrichment to public service. How about envying--and praising--the rich man who is a philanthropist rather than he who lives in a mansion, and drives a new Mercedes every year?
The game's the same; it's just that the goalposts will be moved.
11:10 PM on 06/27/2010
One trillion spent on war and the talk is to cut Social Security Entitlements. Get real.
10:20 PM on 06/27/2010
Get over it people. Social Security Entitlements as we know them today will need to be cut to reign in our out of balance budget. There are NOT enough young people in the future to put in to the system so that all older people can be covered at the present level. These numbers are fact and have been known for decades. We should try to preserve as much of the present entitlements as possible, but cuts do have to be made. Read the second item in the link from the Congressional Budget office: http://www.cbo.gov/doc.cfm?index=5195&type=0
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10:31 PM on 06/27/2010
What entitlements would that be? As far as I know paying into something doesn't make it an entitlement but insurance for the future.
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10:34 PM on 06/27/2010
Here's an entitlement that needs to be cut.

http://farm.ewg.org/
06:33 PM on 06/27/2010
And, The AARP threw us old folks under the bus for what ever reason. Do they expect us to get out of our wheelchairs and pick grapes, or what. Damn, it's bad enough getting old....but getting kicked in the teeth, (or dentures), sucks, in that you have paid into the system for 45 years for almost nothing.
06:16 PM on 06/27/2010
I hate the fact that they are trying to cut every old persons onl;y shot at life. Young folks can still work and get around.....It's a deplorable situation. I'm no longer happy with Obama .
02:11 AM on 06/28/2010
I hear ya. I stopped being happy with Obama when he killed meaningful healthcare reform and drug re-importation after his backroom deals with Insurance and Pharma, insuring that the we will be indentured to the greedy insurance companies and have to keep paying through our noses for medicine. Obama seems intent on signing the death warrant for the working and middle classes (what's left of it)!
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whatt
05:39 PM on 06/27/2010
Hello
05:16 PM on 06/27/2010
The oligarchs made up the term, "entitlements," to shame the American people into submitting to domestic & foreign policies that keep the assets flowing into the greedy hands of the elite, rather than to the benefit of the entire nation in the form of decent health care, child care, public education, elder care as well as other social services.

The war munitions industries, Wall Street, the mendacious politicians & media moguls who support the elites (or are outright oligarchs themselves, unabashedly) are draining the American people of their resources. The middle class is in the process of being dismantled, intentionally. Dean Baker is correct on every point he makes.

The oligarchs would rather we waste our precious resources on domestic policies such as bailing out banks, but not schools or fighting these long wars against Muslim nations, rather than providing for decent health care for the American people. The oligarchs are enriching themselves & their children's children with the positioning of many of these families for transfer of intergenerational wealth out of the hands of the middle class, forever.

Our ancestors founded this nation, in part to get out from under the onus of control of wealth by the aristocracy. It's ironic that we find ourselves today, in the midst of the creation of a somewhat similar framework for society that won't bode anything but ill for most of our descendants.
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Democrat in the South
Empathy, the most important word
09:10 AM on 06/28/2010
America voted the people in who have put this all in place for us. So America must have wanted the world we have today, ...right?
10:15 AM on 06/28/2010
I think the majority of Americans are struggling to keep up with the basic necessities of life. I don't blame them, but wish more citizens would question the mendacious political & media body that is controlling the public discourse about war & military spending, foreign occupations, Wall Street, health care, social security.
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Hoosierbrad
I know it when I see it.
03:42 PM on 06/27/2010
Some of these wing nuts will not be happy until the aged in this country have to work until the day they die to afford decent housing and medical care. Of course they want to repeal the minimum wage so that these people will have to work for $5.00 an hour, so they will then be UNABLE to have decent housing and medical care. Where will we be then? In hell, if you ask me.
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whatt
05:36 PM on 06/27/2010
Hoosier- sure seems to be the goal for the gop.
02:15 PM on 06/27/2010
from your article: "if we know that people will be on average 20 percent richer, we might be less concerned if their tax rate were to rise by 1-2 percentage points."

...what you mean is that if we trust your predictions for 15 years from now, then we will be more willing to accept increased taxes instead of cuts to spending.

Please, please keep that attitude through November. Your kind deserves to lose.

If we would quit committing our government to an ever increasing percentage of life's expenses, then we'd have plenty of money for non entitlement spending.
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Democrat in the South
Empathy, the most important word
10:41 AM on 06/28/2010
Your " non entitlement" spending just means "MORE" money for the entitlements for the "RICH". That's all. That non entitlement spending just goes into the pockets of the rich. Remember, elections have consequences. Ignorance has even more dire consequences.
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01:56 PM on 06/27/2010
And frankly we wouldn't even be HAVING this conversation and SECRET COMMISSION IF THE GOVERNMENT HADN'T LOOTED SS FUNDS AND now have to pay them back.
They don't WANT to pay back the IOU's, then they won't have money for the wars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
02:19 AM on 06/28/2010
Yup. They already ROYALLY SCREWED us by not regulating the financial industries (so they could line their campaign coffers), which inflicted upon America a massive housing bubble and epic financial collapse. Then, Obama and Congress without so much as a shrug of their shoulders handed over trillions of our tax dollars to bail them out, while doing almost nothing to keep Americans in their houses or in their jobs. NOW, AT 10% UNEMPLOYMENT, with the financial services industry not only recovered but THRIVING and RAKING IN MILLIONS IN BONUSES - which Obama also refused to regulate - AND STILL NOT LENDING - Obama wants to cut our MEASLY "entitlements" (as Obama refers to SS and Medicare) that WE ALREADY PAID FOR, INSTEAD OF RAISING THE HISTORICALLY, RIDICULOUSLY LOW TOP TAX RATES, which are only 39% , compared to 90% under Eisenhower - A REPUBLICAN - and 70% under Nixon - ANOTHER REPUBLICAN and instead of ENDING 1 OF 2 POINTLESS WARS.
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Democrat in the South
Empathy, the most important word
10:43 AM on 06/28/2010
Top tax rates are 35% not 39%. Obama wants to raise them to 39%. Republicans want to lower them.
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01:54 PM on 06/27/2010
The cat food commission won't be happy until they have dismantled every safety net we have and are at their mercy. BTW, SS is NOT an entitlement as a person pays into it all their lives.
start letting peterson et al frame it that way and before you know it, they'll have you thinking you aren't entitled to what you pay for.
01:40 PM on 06/27/2010
It's a NO- BRAINER. STOP the unfunded and perpetual wars without end, and the budget deficit will start to decline fast. It's all gain and no pain. We must stop supporting the military-industrial complex about which President Eisenhower warned us many years ago. These people have leeched into our nation's blood stream and are slowly destroying our standard of living. Of this, THERE IS NO DIOUBT.
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Democrat in the South
Empathy, the most important word
10:45 AM on 06/28/2010
A few at the top PROFIT from those wars. That's why we are fighting. War is very profitable for a few.
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Jannsmoor
01:20 PM on 06/27/2010
I attended the America Speaks gathering in Portland, Oregon. Guess what? Even after the failure to completely inform the attendees, nationwide they voted to keep social security and Medicare. The most surprising thing, however, was there was huge support for single payer and taxing the wealthy.
I sat next to a Fauxaholic who spouted every right wing talking point, and there was another far right winger at my table, but they were largely unpersuasive.
If the right wing hopes to win with this forum, they are going to have to change the materials they hand out or lie about the results.
02:22 AM on 06/28/2010
You do know that the Cat Food Commission was spearheaded by Obama, as well as these BS "America Talks" propaganda events designed to misinform the public? SO in effect you are calling Obama a right-winger - which he is - but just thought you should be aware of this little factoid.
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nutty4tahoe
Stop repeat offenders. Don't re-elect them.
11:51 AM on 06/27/2010
What amazes me is that the majority of retirees or near-retirees in this country vote knee-jerk Republican every time. What are they thinking? Why aren't they thinking? Why do people continually vote against people representing programs that will benefit them and instead go for a Republican whose real interest isn't them because they are on the corporate dole. They fall for the same ole bait 'n' switch every time. Why can't people realize this country has fallen for nothing more than a large-scale con job and is now being run by corporations/big business and the lawmakers in their pockets to the current and future detriment? I continue to be appalled by the ignorance and apathy that are so prevalent these days. People need to realize that the "powers" have no interest in a middle class. They are only interested in getting richer. Of course they have to sustaina lower class for most of us because they will need slaves to do their bidding. Those of us no longer able to be slaves will be tossed out like yesterday's garbage.
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whatt
05:38 PM on 06/27/2010
nutty4- couldn't agree more, good post.