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Peter Peterson and the Deficit Ostriches

Posted: 05/23/11 04:55 PM ET

Last spring, Wall Street investment banker Peter Peterson hosted a lavish daylong conference devoted to the budget deficit. One of the highlights was an appearance by President Clinton. Clinton boasted of how he had wanted to cut Social Security back in the mid-90s but congressional leaders from both parties wouldn't let him.

The cut he had wanted would have reduced the annual cost of living adjustment by 1 percentage point annually. This would have left seniors in their 70s, 80s, and 90s with Social Security benefits today that are about 15 percent lower than their current level. How great would that have been?

Peterson is back with Round II this week, another lavish affair devoted to the deficit. President Clinton will be again be playing a starring role, although it is not clear whether he will still be boasting about his wish to cut Social Security benefits.

What is clear is that Peterson is using his vast fortune to push an agenda that has little to do with deficit reduction, and everything to do with cutting Social Security, Medicare and other programs that are vital to ordinary working people.

This fact is apparent from the list of attendees. This is supposed to be a group seriously committed to deficit reduction, yet one of the highlights will be a talk by Representative Paul Ryan, the Republican Chairman of the Budget Committee.

Mr. Ryan is best known for a budget proposal that calls for $3 trillion in individual and corporate tax cuts over the next decade. These cuts are supposed to be offset by the elimination of tax deductions, except Ryan does not identify a single tax deduction that he wants to eliminate.

All he identified is $3 trillion in tax cuts, most of them going to the wealthy. In Peter Peterson's world giving up $3 trillion in revenue is deficit reduction.

The remarkable part of this story is that there are people who are talking about the budget deficit in a serious way. They are proposing solutions that enjoy the support of the American people, and they are right in front of Peterson's nose, but he is doing his best to ignore them.

While Ryan will be touting his plan for adding another $3 trillion to the debt with more tax cuts for the wealthy, and increasing the cost of Medicare to the American people by $34 trillion, at least one of the groups at the conference will be presenting a budget plan that is much more in accordance with the views of the American people.

There are several important principles guiding the EPI plan. First, it focuses on jobs and growth as the immediate problem facing the economy. It is ridiculous to be spending so much time yelling about the deficit at a time when 25 million people are unemployed, underemployed or out of the work force altogether.

It is especially absurd when everyone knows that the economic crisis caused by the collapse of the housing bubble is the main reason that we have large deficits today. The main reason the budget went from deficit to surplus in 90s was the unexpected drop to 4 percent unemployment at the end of the decade, not deficit reduction measures by President Clinton and/or the Republican Congress.

Once the economy is back near full employment, the EPI plan gets most of its revenue from increasing taxes on the wealthy, the big winners in the economy over the last three decades. It also includes a tax on Wall Street financial speculation; taxing the folks whose recklessness brought on this economic disaster.

The cuts focus on the military budget. It protects Social Security and Medicare, which are vital programs to the country's workers and their families, and actually increases spending on infrastructure, education, and other areas that will foster long-term growth.

What is striking is that this program is broadly consistent with extensive public opinion polling on the budget. People don't want to see Social Security and Medicare cut. They think the rich need to pay more and they see the military as the major area of spending most amenable to cuts. The Progressive Caucus, the largest caucus in Congress, put out a budget proposal along these lines last month.

Even Peterson's own America Speaks project came to similar conclusions. This project subjected groups of people at 19 sites across the country to 6 hours of Peterson designed deficit rants. In spite of badly biased presentations, the story was the same. Don't cut Social Security and Medicare. Tax Wall Street and the rich and cut military spending.

The basic problem is that the country is entirely prepared to deal with the deficit in a reasonable and responsible way. However, the people's vision does not include Peterson's goals of gutting Social Security and Medicare. Rather than being "deficit hawks," in denying the obvious path forward on the economy and deficit, Peterson's gang can best be described as "deficit ostriches."

 
Last spring, Wall Street investment banker Peter Peterson hosted a lavish daylong conference devoted to the budget deficit. One of the highlights was an appearance by President Clinton. Clinton boaste...
Last spring, Wall Street investment banker Peter Peterson hosted a lavish daylong conference devoted to the budget deficit. One of the highlights was an appearance by President Clinton. Clinton boaste...
 
 
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myrtle1909
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06:49 PM on 05/24/2011
Why haven't we heard more about this budget?? why dosen't the media inform the public about theis. why are the Democrats so quiet about this budget. The paople need to be aware of it. From what i can read about it it decreases the deficit with out cutting Medicare or Social Security. I would like to see more information on this budget from local news media.
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KidShalleen
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04:47 PM on 05/24/2011
There are no more Murrows, and Cronkites, and Severides.
What we have now are all beholden to the Corporate Masters.
No pay, No PLAY.
04:26 PM on 05/24/2011
We will never solve our economic problem until one solves our trade deficit problem. You cannot
let 80 billion dollars a month, at the peak of stupidity to 50 billion a month now be removed from the
economy and expect things to remain the same. That's why we have to print money. Also like it or not
we need to stop all immigration legal and illegal. Most of these people donot support themselves, the
majority are on welfare. The taxpayers that are left can no longer support them. No more guest workers, no more green card visas. We no longer grow enough food to feed ourselves. we import more food than we export.
Anyone that believes in a global economy is living in a dream world.
Strauss kahn was a meddling manipulator,and a conniving schemer and most of his decisions
were based on greed.
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elbzee
Fear is the mind-killer
08:07 AM on 05/25/2011
"Most of these people donot support themselves­, the majority are on welfare."

WHAT? Where do you live? Here, immigrants are buying and rehabilitating homes and working.

As vor HB-1 visas, I agree. No way we can't fill job openings with the numbers we have here.

But bottom line, where did your ancestors come from, Joe? Did they meet Columbus on the beach?
03:38 PM on 05/25/2011
The bottom line is that immigrants are a net boon to the economy in most cases; most of them are working and earning money, and welfare (unlike other entitlement programs) is a small portion of the budget. Stopping immigration would not stop the deficit or even make a significant difference in it.

You, like these deficit ostriches, are pushing a far-right social agenda that doesn't seriously offer any solution to the deficit.
02:57 PM on 05/24/2011
Why aren't the journalists and pundits asking legislators why they don't support the Progressive budget which is favored by the people?
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Peter Combs
Amused by the illogical..no, NOT a Republican
01:23 PM on 05/24/2011
The Elephant in the room is the US Military...cutting that down by 30% to be on a par with what other industrialized nations spend as a percentage of their economys would handle a big part of it, if they don;t adress that nothing is going to happen.,.and all this talk is all just fodder for the rabble...
DanBest
My micro bio is empty
01:09 PM on 05/24/2011
Beware of any rich person with a solution to fix our debt issue. What precisely have we asked any of them to sacrifice? Anything? Interesting how all the sacrifice and bad medicine has to be absorbed by those who benefitted the least from the last 30 years of wealth redistribution.
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Overtone
See bio on the Aesop Institute website
12:47 PM on 05/24/2011
CONSIDER A FEW MORE WAYS TO SHARPLY REDUCE UNEMPLOYMENT!

A New, New Deal: This uses well proven financial techniques to boost the economy, generate jobs and broaden the ownership of wealth in an acceptable manner.

A Human Investment Tax Credit program: Designed to create 6 million jobs and help 4 million entrepreneurs. Weak versions of the incentives were tried in 1977 and 2 million jobs resulted.

A Capital Homestead Act: A bold plan to create second incomes for almost everyone that are independent of savings. This meets the challenges posed by automation of employment and sending jobs overseas. If you get the income from the job it is less of a problem. This also widens the ownership of wealth.

Excess wealth concentration is an economic and not merely an ethical problem. It appears to have caused the Great Depression, inflation and recessions, according to the late economist Robert Edmonds.

20 Hours of Toil: Second incomes open a path to reducing the hours spent in work we do not choose. We work long and hard at what we want to do.

4 Hour Workdays: Bertrand Russell suggested this in 1932 to end unemployment. With substantial second incomes such ideas can become realistic.

During WWII unemployment shrank to 2%. This seemingly impossible figure might be obtained as a matter of policy, without inflation, by considering better ideas.

We have often done the difficult. Perhaps the "impossible" can be accomplished, even if it does take a little bit longer.
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Peter Combs
Amused by the illogical..no, NOT a Republican
01:19 PM on 05/24/2011
Unemployment in WWII dropped to 2% because everyone was working in the war effort, while the country went deeper into debt. The debt at the end of WWII was over 100% of the GDP, whihc means it was the same at the peak of the financial crisis in 2008..do we want to do that again?

Huge debt, does not always create jobs, as we now know.
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Overtone
See bio on the Aesop Institute website
01:42 PM on 05/24/2011
The suggestions made offer ways to grow the economy and decrease debt over time in a manner that eventually moves toward dramatic reductions in debt.

See www.aesopinstitute.org for some of the details and references.
12:41 PM on 05/24/2011
Any yet Petersen will get extensive media coverage as a bold person willing to have adult conversations, while EPi and the People's Budget get ignored.
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PotomacOracle
The Solution:debt free credit clearing systems
12:04 AM on 05/25/2011
F & F

Just like MSM ignored the conclusions from the Meet-Up America bullchip that Dean Baker references above.

Here was an overwhelming response from the PEOPLE to save exactly what Peterson what's to destroy and yet, Peterson thinks he's on the side of the PEOPLE. His self delusion will undo us all if there is no serious, populist pushback agaiinst his Jihad to destroy what's left of the middle class, and as Henry Kissinger said in the 70's, "...rid the planet of "useless eaters.""
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KidShalleen
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12:27 PM on 05/24/2011
This should be a "Sir. Have you no decency", moment.

Is there not one human being in government who could pull that off?

Or are "the times" just too cynical to allow it to happen?
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elbzee
Fear is the mind-killer
04:17 PM on 05/24/2011
I so much agree with you kid. I had to read this sentence many times. It seems to be one of those optical illusion tricks, "giving up $3 trillion in revenue is deficit reduction."
I would so love that someone within our government could call them out.
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KidShalleen
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04:36 PM on 05/24/2011
Sad, Isn't it. It really should be Barack to do it. Like many Progressives, I haven't been totally satisfied with Obama's first term performance, but really,...what's the alternative. It's not that I don't think he's doing the best he can, it's just that there is so much suffering going on, and the obstructionists seem to hold too, too, much sway.
I'm hoping that once Obama wins his second term he karate chops these bastardos in the throat and drops them to their knees. Boy do I want to see that.
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PotomacOracle
The Solution:debt free credit clearing systems
12:06 AM on 05/25/2011
WE the people will need to do that. At this juncture we're the only one's left who have not been bought and paid for by the corporate psychopaths destroying this nation.
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patches12
12:08 PM on 05/24/2011
hey Baker... why not just be honest....... I know its hard for you..... but try..

you really don't give a hoot about cutting our deficit or debt...

its just all about ensuring the entitlements remain untouched no matter what, never mind if there is no money or that they are on the road to insolvency.

even it means we go completely broke like Greece.. no reasonable compromise will be considered

your agenda is cyrstal clear.... just be honest.
DanBest
My micro bio is empty
12:51 PM on 05/24/2011
Come back with your rant when you're willing to agree to tax the rich. What have the upper one percent been asked to sacrifice? Anything? (Crickets) Otherwise your panic about the debt is just that. And no one makes good decisions when they are in a panic.
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patches12
01:01 PM on 05/24/2011
First .... no panic about the debt.... listen to what Obama said about it......

Senator Barack Obama
March 16, 2006

“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government¬’s reckless fiscal policies.
Numbers that large are sometimes hard to understand¬. Some people may wonder why they matter. Here's why: This year, the Federal Government will spend $220 billion on interest. That is more money to pay interest on our national debt than we’ll spend on Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program. That is more money to pay interest on our debt this year than we will spend on education, homeland security, transporta¬tion, and veterans benefits combined. It is more money in one year than we are likely to spend to rebuild the devastated gulf coast in a way that honors the best of America.

And the cost of our debt is one of the fastest growing expenses in the Federal budget. This rising debt is a hidden domestic enemy, robbing our cities and States of critical investment¬s in infrastruc¬ture like bridges, ports, and levees; robbing our families and our children of critical investment¬s in education and health care reform; robbing our seniors of the retirement and health security they have counted on.
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patches12
01:04 PM on 05/24/2011
I am open to tax increases.. AFTER, we get spending under control ... and I would inlcude the military in that equation

my issue is how you Progressives persist in defining families making $250K a year as rich..

such a family with a mortgage, car payments, insurance premiums, property taxes is NOT rich.. comfortable.. yes, upper middle class in some areas of the country maybe


BUT NOT RICH!!
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aceshigh11
Nowhere is the dreamer or the misfit so alone
11:47 AM on 05/24/2011
These people want to take us back to the days of Warren G. Harding and Calvin Coolidge.

No protection, no safety net, no rights. This is your GOP at work.
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KidShalleen
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12:38 PM on 05/24/2011
If it were left to the Cons, Petraeus would be mounted on a horse (or a camel)
rousting the homeless in the middle of times Square. Some sport, eh!!!
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patches12
12:52 PM on 05/24/2011
what a crock of crap..STOP THE DISTORTION no one is talking about eliminating safety nets...NO ONE

we are talking about cutting back on the Nanny State to a SUSTAINABLE LEVEL..

you liberals somehowe believe that entitlements must continue ad infinitum even when those that claim to be "entitled" never paid a dime INTO the system...
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tdpubs
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03:06 PM on 05/24/2011
FYI. There is no Nanny State. We still live in a Capitalist dominated Democratic Republic with Socialist inspired essential services. The melding of these concepts where they do them most good has been our strength; even embedded in our Constitution. Even Sweden is not run as a Nanny State. Please refrain from the rhetoric since you obviously are well versed in the fact base world in many of your posts. I can accept many of your observations to a point until you move into talking points territory. Entitlements are paid for by citizens who are "entitled" to a return on their investment. Taxes are paid by everyone who actually pays for something in this country. We don't all pay federal taxes but we're all taxed at some point in the course of living. That is the price of citizenship. I don't begrudge the folks who at one point or other in their lives have to take the handout but contrary to Con thinking, there are very few people who can live off that for any length of time. The myth of welfare generations continues as a class division concept. Let's continue to share ideas on solving the problem from both sides of the isle.
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ez14livin
03:29 PM on 05/24/2011
nanny state - talk about DISTORTION

welfare queens... food stamp president...

the NANNY STATE you describe pertains to Wall Street Bailouts, OIL and AGRA subsidies and many other wasteful and DECEITFUL transfers of taxpayer wealth

gee... teacon, ask yourself how much safer you feel knowing the BILLIONS spent in iraq and afghanistan really were about OIL. and don't you love the airport choices now: xray or intimate pat down...

but maybe that is the gotp vision: wreck this country so that no one will have a reason to attack it: we will have become everything we once opposed
Linda from Deerfield
Paying attention
11:27 AM on 05/24/2011
Whatever happened to the Billionaires for Wealth Care? We need more fun being poked at these people. As far as I am concerned, people like Pete Peterson are misfits, and so are those among us who hold them up as heroes. In the town where I grew up, wealth was something to treat gingerly, being careful not to flaunt it nor rub people's noses in it, and certainly it was not an excuse to try to rob less fortunate neighbors of what little they managed to garner for themselves. I dream of the day when using wealth to wield power over others and essentially rob the little guy will get you so ostracized by society that only the obviously broken and unstable minds will continue to do it.
11:26 AM on 05/24/2011
The last time we put together a balanced budget plan we had the best economic expansion in history.
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tdpubs
Content publisher for small business marketing
12:47 PM on 05/24/2011
At 4% unemployment, you've got the revenues to accomplish that feat. We let the Cons change the message to deficits instead of job creation and infrastructure investment. That is the real shame of the situation.
01:21 PM on 05/24/2011
You do have a point, although unemployment was 4% 5 years AFTER the balanced budget plan was hatched. It was 7.5 % at the beginning of the expansion.
DanBest
My micro bio is empty
12:55 PM on 05/24/2011
No uh, that happened BEFORE the budget was balanced. Do you honestly think that throwing thousands of state and federal workers into our already bloated unemployment pool will fix the economy?
03:47 PM on 05/24/2011
Why not raise taxes ? Cut defense spending ? There's plenty of ways to skin the cat
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Skeptical Patriot
11:18 AM on 05/24/2011
Dean, unfortunately, your position reflects the ostrich approach. Realize that when you cut taxes, you cut taxes for the wealthy because the wealthy pay the vast majority of taxes.

The very idea of ignoring the structural problems with SS and Medicare is your basic problem. SS was meant to provide a safety net and not meant to systematically underwrite the population's ability to stop working progressively earlier in a persons expected lifespan.

While cutting defense is essential, it is a one time impact. Whereas Medicare is expected to continue to grow because of unregulated healthcare costs and growing populations of elderly.

What about simply means testing Medicare?
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Oldchef
Former Executive Chef, tr0ll watcher
11:49 AM on 05/24/2011
Good idea to drop the wealthy off Medicare, but we need to be able to negotiate prices with the for-profit hospitals and the drug companies, and police those trying to defraud Medicare, which is still a really big problem. Rick Scott wasn't, and isn't, the only one deliberately and systematically defrauding Medicare. SS does not contribute to the deficit, and cannot by law.
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Skeptical Patriot
12:23 PM on 05/24/2011
There is no doubt we have to bring down the cost of care and part of this is vendor management. The problem is the gov't is terrible at doing this. Look at one of the biggest cost categories - physician reimbursement. Congress has punted for 7 years on it's own legal obligation to reduce physician comp. Unfortunately, squeezing vendors, providers, etc will only create marginal reductions in cost. Drugs have become a boogeyman for the industry (personally I don't agree with this). However, this problem takes care of itself. Unfortunately, 80% of drugs in five years will be generic up from 50% as major drugs come off of patent and new and better drugs are not in the pipeline.
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ez14livin
03:33 PM on 05/24/2011
can't means test medicare because the rich will cry, 'but i paid into it and i want it'

unfortunately, making it big in this country has nothing to do with empathy

until some influential wealthy people get on a soapbox and claim they do NOT take medicare and it becomes a mark of PATRIOTISM to give back, it won't happen

Social Security was falsely advertised to such a degree that people assumed it was a retirement fund. And the blame for that goes to all parties.

Cutting the defense budget is more than a one time thing... Just as you want to curb entitlements, the yearly defense budget is also kept in check
Gasparilla
there is no clean coal
11:07 AM on 05/24/2011
As long as we have so many politicians who worship at the shrine of Our Lady Of Perpetual War, it's going to be hard to get budgets under control. I don't pretend for a minute that we don't face threats from terrorists, but staying in countries for decades is not going to help. Al Qaeda is in dozens of countries, we can't invade them all. There has to be give on all sides, spending, taxes, and we have to stop being world policeman.
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ez14livin
03:36 PM on 05/24/2011
if we spent 1/10 of what we have lost in the middle east over the past decade toward REAL defense: shipyard protections and expanding train lines we would be so far ahead in the game...
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elbzee
Fear is the mind-killer
08:24 AM on 05/25/2011
P!sses me off too ez!