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Unemployment: Dispatch From Among the 9.4%

Posted: 01/20/11 03:29 PM ET

A week ago, I found myself surrounded by a room full of strangers listening to confident young man expound on the dos and don'ts of resume writing and acing a job interview. Ok, so "found myself" isn't exactly accurate. In truth, I was required to be there by the Department of Labor, as were my classmates who, like me, had all been collecting unemployment for at least six months, most of us more.

We were a diverse group, united by the fact of being out of work for longer than the higher-ups at the DOL believe we should be. A little guidance was what we needed, our Job Search Follow-Up summonses explained, in the form of a mandatory hour-long workshop on the myriad ways in which the Department of Labor is here to help -- preceded by 60 minutes of waiting in an unstaffed windowless room wondering if anyone actually knew we were there. If we failed to attend, the letters said, we would risk losing our weekly unemployment benefits. The room was full.

The workshop was led by a deep-voiced 30-something man in a standard-issue jacket and tie. I had to give the guy credit. Day in and day out he stands before countless representatives of the disgruntled formerly-employed and manages to maintain both professionalism and a sense of humor while doing so. Ironically, as jobs go, telling people how to get one -- especially people who didn't ask in the first place -- is probably not high on anyone's list. Among our instructor's words of wisdom was a warning: "Showing up for an interview 15 minutes early is appropriate -- showing up an hour early is desperate," and an existential question to ponder: "People put on masks every day -- to the employer, are you the true you or are you the interview you?"

My classmates and I listened dutifully to our leader, hopeful that if we just sat quietly and let him do his thing, we could be out of there in less than the proscribed hour. But he wanted class participation, and so, ever covetous of our weekly $405 checks, we participated.

From their replies to questions about the average length of a job interview and the proper timing of a thank you note, I learned a few things about my classmates. My neighbor to the right was a former professor of Russian history so concerned with following the letter of the law that he didn't file his claim during the week he spent interviewing at a University in Florida because he wouldn't be able to answer truthfully that we was "ready and able to work" in New York. On my left was a former Human Resources manager with whom the instructor frequently checked his facts, in front of her a client services type copiously taking notes, and behind me a media Jill-of-all-trades not unlike myself, a writer and editor whose position was "eliminated" in a company reorganization after I loyally and enthusiastically put in over a decade at what I had once considered my dream job.

In the 19 months since I was laid off (19 and a half, but who's counting?), I've experienced many "firsts": first time filing for unemployment, first time going into double-digit credit card debt, first time dipping into my rolled-over 401K. Withdrawing from my retirement savings more than two decades before I was technically eligible was something it never occurred to me I might do, let alone do again and again. In the past year alone, overdrawn checking accounts have forced me to tap those once-taboo funds three times, diminishing my meager nest egg nearly by half. Last year's monetary gifts from relatives earmarked for my kids' college accounts went instead to bills and rent.

On a more positive note, being "downsized" has meant not being a full-time working parent for the first time since I became a mother. This too has led to a number of unexpected firsts: first time picking up my kids at dismissal time rather than from after-school (I actually had to ask someone where in the building I would find them at 3), first time accompanying them on a field trip without nagging guilt about skipping out on work, first time staying home with a sick child without furtively checking my email while playing Connect Four.

I'm 40-years-old and for the first time in my adult life I honestly have no idea what the future holds in the way of a career or overall financial security. Still, I know I'm among the lucky ones. Just as my severance was ending a year ago, my husband -- who had been laid off from his own publishing job two years earlier -- miraculously landed a long-term freelance assignment and is now slated to become staff. Rather than how we'll pay the rent or make our car payments, our worries are now of the slightly less dire "How will we pay for summer camp, let alone college?" and "Will we ever get out of debt?" variety. We are resigned to having no washer-dryer, dishwasher or second bathroom for the foreseeable future. Having lost faith in the concepts of job security and financial stability, it's the unforeseeable future we worry about now.

While continuing to plug away at freelance work, peruse the industry job sites and pound the pavement for interviews, I've gone back to school for yet another degree. This time I'm studying to be a teacher, one of the most underrated jobs one can have in this country, but also among the most rewarding. I have no illusions that I'll ever be able to kick up my heels and relax into retirement. But if I have to be working for a paycheck into my old age, at least as a teacher I'll be doing something positive for the world, rather than promoting products I no longer believe in that this planet doesn't need.

Of course, no one's hiring teachers around here right now either. But a girl's gotta have a dream.

 

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A week ago, I found myself surrounded by a room full of strangers listening to confident young man expound on the dos and don'ts of resume writing and acing a job interview. Ok, so "found myself" isn'...
A week ago, I found myself surrounded by a room full of strangers listening to confident young man expound on the dos and don'ts of resume writing and acing a job interview. Ok, so "found myself" isn'...
 
 
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10:09 PM on 01/21/2011
I think every young person who has good job skills should consider looking abroad for employment. Only a few will be able to find it, but why can't that someone be you. If you speak a foreign language (Mandarin, French, Spanish, even German) and can write computer program code, all the better. If you are a senior in high school and planning your college future, take courses that will give you good job skills. I used to think that only young GAY people should look for work outside the US (for better civil rights). Now I think ALL young people should extend their search beyond the US. We have become a country that is more interested in fighting wars, propping up the profits of hedge fund billionaires, stopping gays from getting married and forcing 15 year old pregnant girls to give birth than in caring about the future of the country. The state of the union is not strong.
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Malcolm Hensley
Last of the Reagan Republicans
08:30 PM on 01/21/2011
You want jobs China Inc. has a solution!

They figured out how! Cheap energy! Can't have an industrial revolution without it! Most think it is cheap labor! There has always been cheap labor but the industrial revolution had to wait for the invention of the steam engine to produce cheap reliable -------------- you guess it energy!

China, 2009 consumed over 45% of all the coal burnt in the world. You can make ~ 2500kwh of electricity from a ton of coal! Long term contracts for COAL run about $35.00/ton. That means for a paid for plant their cost is $0.015/kwh. Most industrial rates in the States are $0.06-$0.12/kwh.

People it's not labor cost it's energy cost! If we want to compete straight up go to dirty coal become as polluted as any Chinese city!

I think that's a dumb move!

I'd much rather do something for the planet! Apply an environmental tax or tariff on the manufacturing or transportation of products sold. Why stop at taxing carbon?

Everyone hates to pay taxes! Think of the innovated ways people will think of to avoid those taxes or tariffs! The possibilities are endless - it ranges from CLIPPER SHIPS TO MOVE PRODUCTS To COLD FUSION!

Now that would create some interesting times!

Isn't that an old Chinese curse?
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04:51 PM on 01/21/2011
It's important to understand what has happened in order to see why this is no ordinary situation, yet at the same, why it's becoming a permanent one. Here's is what has happened. Starting in the 1970s, very gradually and minimally at first, technology allowed business to become efficent enough that increases in consumer demand could no longer create enough jobs to replace the ones that technology had destroyed. When we mechanized agriculture, people moved to manufacturing. When we automated manufacturing, people moved to service. Now that we're automating service, there is nowhere to go.

That technology is the root cause is not always obvious. People point to globalization, job outsourcing, and even illegal immigration, but the truth is that those things are enabled by automation. Without high-speed internet, India wouldn't even be in the IT business. The same goes for China. The manufacturing jobs they do today are nothing like the jobs that let American blue collar workers join the middle class. Thanks to automation, Chinese manufacturing jobs are low-skill and low-pay even by Chinese standards.

And there is no such thing as a safe job because even a job that cannot be automated will come under competitive pressure from so many people trying to get it. Anyone interested in this phenomenon should read Martin Ford's "The Lights in the Tunnel," as well as the articles on robotics on marshallbrain dot com. Over the next decade, American retail will likely go 80% self-checkout. What then?
04:31 PM on 01/21/2011
Relax, Biden told us last year 6-8 million jobs will never come back.. some should stop looking and wasting what resources they have left..
02:12 PM on 01/21/2011
My job position is being downsized at the end of next week. I've sent out and dropped off resumes for anything I could find that I am even remotely qualified for - both relating to my current job position and jobs I held a decade ago. All those efforts in the past month (I was told my job would be going away right before Christmas) have generated exactly 1 interview- just 10 minutes from home, almost the same pay as I am making now, very good benefits! But it went to someone already in the company. So I am about to file for unemployment for the first time in my life. I have had a job since I was 16, except for 3 years when I was able to stay home with my son when he was small. I hope we can keep up. I am just continuing to apply for things and trying not to get too worried. At least my husband is still employed, so we'll just have to see what happens...
01:41 PM on 01/21/2011
I was unemployed for 6 months myself. I am young so it wasn't too much of a hit, and I'm back on my feet now. I feel guilty for disliking my job when I read these comments about people being unemployed for years and having to seek unemployment benefits. Even when I was unemployed my lifestyle didn't change because I'm one of the lucky few with rich parents.
I feel like helping out but quitting my job to become a teacher or working for a non-profit will have minimal impact on society at large. The only way to help others less fortunate is to make boatloads of cash and then give it to those that are unemployed.
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Kat Posing
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01:31 PM on 01/21/2011
I've been to those manditory unemployment meetings. I h@te them. The 2 times I've been (2007 and 2001) the same woman was leading the meeting. How and where to look for jobs. She gave the same spiel. Going on about sending thank you letters or following up calls. I asked her how do you do follow up when all resumes are sent via email and the posting specifically say "No Phone Calls Please". And should you send a thank you for phone interviews or after the third in person interview? I could tell most of the people were there only to insure they continued to receive their unemployment check.

At least the last time she was honest. She said there was no money for retraining programs, but the unemployment office did provide a bank of computers available for internet job searches. She also said we should look into going onto welfare or food stamps. We all laughed at that. One person told her that most of us made to much in the previous year to qualify for any public assistance program. She just said "Oh".
01:11 PM on 01/21/2011
The unemployment rate is not 9.4%! That figure only includes those drawing unemployment compensation. The true rate is probably 20%! Of course, who in this country is ever told the truth about a disaster coming! "THE ECONOMY IS STRONG - GEORGE W. BUSH!"
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Brian Gilmer
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06:03 PM on 01/21/2011
The unemployment rate as reported by the Department of Labor has nothing to do with those receiving unemployment benefits.

Here is the link to the DoL http://www.bls.gov/bls/unemployment.htm.

It is important to point out that the official unemployment rate does not capture those who could work but gave up looking and those who are underemployed.
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thebearschick
12:17 PM on 01/21/2011
During the last five years, my generation (twenties) has received a ton of criticism for being "entitled" and unwilling to "pay our dues" in entry level jobs in corporate America. Did it ever occur to those older, more experienced critics that THIS WOMAN (and millions of others like her) are the reason why we were so leery? There's no such thing as paying your dues, because nobody owes you anything. If we see a system where people put in twenty years of good, hard work and then get tossed out to the dogs, is that gonna make us wanna jump on board at the bottom? Heck no. I've always believed hard work is important, but many in my generation are starting to laugh at the notion of a "career" and view every job we have as a "temp" job. Because, really, that's all you're contracted to do. Either partner can terminate your employment relationship at will, on any given day. To think that a large company is going to look out for you is absurd. There may still be some smaller companies where company/employee loyalty is still alive and well, but I doubt there's many in the Fortune 500.
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Deb Levine
02:58 PM on 01/21/2011
Thanks for your comment, thebearschick. The economy was bad in the early 90s when I graduated college too, so I can understand how you feel. But despite how they ended, the 10 yrs I worked for my former company were not wasted. I truly enjoyed my job for most of those years, learned an incredible amount about an ever-evolving industry (digital media), met some amazingly talented people who I'm fortunate enough to continue to be connected with, and built up a modest 401k, without which I would be in far more serious financial trouble at the moment. I also got a severance package that allowed me a cushion of time to regroup and begin my job hunt while still pulling in my former paycheck. My severance is long gone by now, but had I not been employed by the same company for so long, I wouldn't have had that financial cushion and for that I'm grateful. There are definite minuses to working for a large company, but there are some pretty powerful pluses too.
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Alexandra Mandelis
Occupy.
04:44 AM on 01/24/2011
With all due respect, this is the typical response I see to my unemployment story as a 25 year old, from older workers at employment seminars etc.

Over and over I've been told to volunteer because it will "get my foot in the door". I don't believe that. I guess there's nothing wrong with this advice, except:

1. Volunteering (ie working for free) doesn't pay rent (or for food, or student loans, or bus trips to job interviews, etc.)
2. Those who have short employment histories (eg ~35 and under) have not paid enough taxes to be entitled to government support (e.g. UI).
04:00 PM on 01/21/2011
Many of us who are older feel the same way. Why should we have any loyalty to companies, when companies don't have loyalty to their employees? Its hard to imagine people working for one employer their whole career any more. The attitude of employees being expendable started when the "Personnel Department" was renamed the "Human Resources Department" and went downhill from there.
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Brian Gilmer
Respect the bunny.
06:06 PM on 01/21/2011
If I were to put a milestone on the death of employer loyalty it would be when IBM broke a long standing tradition to never layoff. The first time was painful for IBM within a few years it was routine.
11:35 AM on 01/21/2011
Sigh...I know people who are putting in 40, 50 and 60 hour work weeks who are making less than the $405 a week the unemployed are receiving.

While I certainly agree that we need to provide benefits for those who are out of work, why do we not have a care in the world for those who actually have jobs, but whose living standards are below those of the unemployed? Why are the unemployed considered important, but the working poor and working classes not?

Where are the benefits for those making $300 (or less) a week? Where is the attention to their needs? Why do we only care about those who used to be upper middle class, but not those who've never been in the upper middle class?

Or am I not allowed to ask these questions in the new America, where we have to "tone down the rhetoric" so as not to offend the affluent class?
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GreenKate
06:59 PM on 01/21/2011
People who care about the unemployed also care about the working poor. You are referring to what the media & politicians talk about, which is not the same thing as people caring.
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ritamary
10:55 AM on 01/22/2011
Maybe somewhere the unemployed are getting $405 a week. I have no idea where that might be. I am getting $147. I was getting an additional $25 a week from stimulus funds but the Republicans made sure that went bye bye in December.

As a single mother who survived the Reagan years I know how to live on very limited income. However, I do not know how to live on nothing which is where things seem to be going.
10:46 AM on 01/21/2011
Well the numbers are in, 67 comments. The unemployed are truly invisible.
08:56 AM on 01/21/2011
A friend of mine was told to not put dates next to her record of employment on her resume so HR can't readily figure out how old she is and delete her resume or put it in the shredder. She's 47 years old, hardly someone ready to be put out to pasture.

There was a time when someone having over 20 years experience was an asset to a company, these days it seems to work against you.
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09:41 AM on 01/21/2011
As someone who has been involved in hiring before, having too much experience is seen as a negative, often

The reason for this

(1) they will need more money. Younger people tend to be willing to work longer for less.
(2) they tend to be more set in their ways and less moldable. They want to do things their way, not the company's way. At least, that is the image they have.
(3) they are thought to have less drive, energy, and enthusiasm. A younger person is seen as more eager to please and able to work more hrs.
(4) Depending on the job, many jobs experience after a certain point doesn't help. A person may be able to get up to speed in 6 months. or maybe 1-3 yrs experience isall that is really needed and then the person is as competent as someone doing that job for 20 yrs.
(5) Sometimes something is seen as potentially wrong with the candidate if they have been laid off at that age.
10:19 AM on 01/21/2011
Bingo!!! Great list!!! Still, people can't change who they are. With the economy and unemployment situation of today companies and hiring managers should be adapting more/better to the pool of available people.
(1) Its now more about working than money for many people.
(2) Again, its more about a job and a new willingness to conform and adapt.
(3) Enthusiasm is muddle in the inane process of hiring.
(4) Although this is certainly true, it doesn't make the experienced candidate less qualified.
(5) In the end we all have a scarlet letters.
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Arts4u
It's better than a reality show.
10:41 AM on 01/21/2011
What you have left off is that the youngest people will indeed also endure poor treatment as part of 'paying their dues'.
10:43 AM on 01/21/2011
Companies want 20 years of experience, but are only willing to pay entry-level salaries.

Your friend should take the date off of when she got her college degree(s), too. Since most people graduate at age 22, its easy to figure out one's age using the graduation date.
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Fred Lane
Romney....None and Done!
08:56 AM on 01/21/2011
Wait until 2 years from now until you get that tax bill from the IRS that will state you owe income taxes on the funds you withdrew from your 401k plan...and to add more insult to injury, you'll also get the same type of notice from the state you live in cause the feds will report the income to your state. I'm speaking from experience and the year was 2008 and know am being hounded but thank GOD I'm working now. In addition to being unemployed that year, I was also hospitalized for 3 days and when I told the IRS about being unemployed and hospitalized, which I thought were considered hardships, they denied both as a defense. Is this a great country or what!

Great Post though...
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Deb Levine
03:04 PM on 01/21/2011
Thanks, Fred. We have a meeting with our tax accountant next month and I'm steeling myself for the moment he tells us what the penalty for those early withdrawals is--my husband made some from his retirement account as well, so we're in for it. In the past we'd get money back at tax time, but that definitely won't be happening this year.
10:15 PM on 01/21/2011
It will probably be 10% of the amount you withdrew as the Federal penalty plus the Federal income tax on the income + state penalty (if any) + state income tax on the income. Now that you are unemployed, you might want to teach yourself how to use Turbotax and do your own tax returns. Save yourself a few hundred dollars.
08:46 AM on 01/21/2011
I'm now in my 20th month of unemployment. I was a CAD designer in the engineering business for 20 years. This work is still being done, but in places like the Philippines and India, where workers are paid a fraction of what US workers earn. My chances of ever doing this type of work again are slim.

Now it goes on in my head over and over: Should I go back to school and train to do something else? What would that be? And if I did, at my age (61), would anyone hire me?

I never thought at this point in my life I'd still be trying to figure out what I wanted to be when I grew up.
10:46 AM on 01/21/2011
That's the problem. Everyone says to retrain for another job. But what? There doesn't seem to be an industry that's hiring.

A friend just retrained as a pharmacy technician. It only took a few months and doesn't seem like a job that's easily outsourced.
01:14 PM on 01/21/2011
Sorry for your plight! F&F
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Trepasky
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08:11 AM on 01/21/2011
I am a soon to be 62 year old 99er (benefits expired in April 2010).
I was a hi-tech professional, consultant, manager/director, and engineer.
I am over qualified (too old) or lack a degree (too old). Many places/jobs for which I am qualified now state that they will only interview folks who are currently employed. A local business interviewed me in 2009 but I was told I was over qualified. It would have been a perfect job that would have been great for them as well as for me.
During my three years of unemployment, I applied at more than 3,000 jobs/companies around the US. I had four interviews (two over the phone). I had to move/quit my last position because of health concerns of my handicapped daughter.
The country is failing those who are unemployed and have no benefits. During other recessions unemployment was extended until the rate dropped below 7%. Such is not the case today. There are too many wealthy who 'need' the money more than those ~15%-17% of the workforce who are struggling. The tax cut extension for the wealthy could have paid for extended benefits.
However, as Gingrich and other GOP 'leaders' have stated. "It is the unemployed who are the problem" "They are lazy" and other forms of vilification to sway those who are working into believing that the unemployed are getting a 'free ride'.
The unemployed are not the reason nor the fault for the mess!
09:33 AM on 01/21/2011
Be sure to keep preaching. Everyone one you meet.

Repitition. Lots of reps.

You may starve to death in the effort, but maybe, just maybe, if you and enough people like you keep up the chant to family, friends, acquaintances, Congresspeople, etc., then the message will sink in. Maybe not. But it is our only hope. Keep it up.
01:16 PM on 01/21/2011
Write/right on huff reader and Trepasky- F&F you both!