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Tim Carpenter: Social Entrepreneur Is Revolutionizing Senior Housing

Posted: 04/30/2012 10:07 am

Forget bingo and donuts. Social entrepreneur and aging expert Tim Carpenter is quietly revolutionizing senior living. Carpenter is the Founder and Executive Director of EngAGE, a nonprofit organization that offers affordable senior arts colonies focused on wellness, life-long learning, community building, and intergenerational arts programs. An operative word here is "affordable." EngAGE's Burbank Senior Artists Colony in California is a flagship community poised to become a model for others throughout the country. It's an ensemble of attractive independent apartments united around an arts community that features a theater group, an independent film company, and a fine arts collective, with courses in digital filmmaking, performance and writing. But instead of boasting an astronomical price tag, EngAGE'S art colonies serve low- and moderate-income seniors.

"I wanted to help people who are low-income because they didn't have anything cool for themselves," said Carpenter, who worked in real estate to understand the mechanics of the development community and launch his vision for creative and sustainable aging. Carpenters emphasizes the value of having something beyond old age as the glue that holds a community together. "Whether it's the art of learning or health or foodie stuff or spirituality -- whatever it is that excites people and turns them on every day -- that should be the glue that binds them. The idea of walking out your door and finding a bunch of like-minded people is the best part of the whole commune thing."

Elected an Ashoka Fellow, which recognizes leading social entrepreneurs who have innovative solutions to social problems, Carpenter credits being raised in a large Irish Catholic family and appreciating the story-telling virtues of older people with his desire to change the age/retirement paradigm: "I realized that older people just tell better stories than younger people. I always ended up at their end of the dinner table." Carpenter serves on the board of directors for the National Center for Creative Aging and has received a James Irvine Foundation Leadership Award for his work. We recently spoke with him about what how his model works.

What motivated you to commit yourself to this crusade?

It really began as this realization that there was a giant hole out there. I'd walk into these senior places and see what people had to look forward to every week: It was bingo and donuts. There were community rooms where you could literally peel the nicotine off the walls. There were all of these really cool people in there just dying. Healthcare is so regulated and I got tired of just banging my head against the Medicare wall. I saw housing as a crucible for what I wanted to do.

How so?

In housing, there's this great combination of population and money. So I went to work for a real estate developer and learned the business. It was like being an apprentice in the old days. I wanted to learn a trade and then apply that trade to something I really wanted to do in my life. I realized that in real estate development, there are lots of line items and lots of spreadsheets with lots and lots of dollars attached to them. And no one was really doing anything with it.

So I developed a model based on college and sought out a whole-person approach that focused on wellness and life-long learning and intergenerational community building. In 1999, I basically cold-called the city of Burbank and said, 'Hey, I've got this whacky idea. I grew up near an artist colony in New York and I want to create this place where people can get old and the commonality between them was not about being over a certain, but about the arts.' And they loved the idea.

What was it about a college model that appealed to you?

I very quickly realized that there weren't any models in aging that I wanted to be a part of. Much of what I saw was disrespectful -- people stuck in corners and warehoused somewhere. So I started thinking that if you look at senior life through the right kind of goggles, it's very similar to college: You're going from one stage in life to another. If you take away cost and transportation, it's got that same sense of opening to it. I remember the moment when I got my first college catalogue. I thought: 'Oh my God, everything's available to me.' That's what I wanted to hand older people. I want to inject them with enthusiasm to learn and grow and take on new things.

So we modeled our communities after college. Instead of doing arts and crafts where people put popsicle sticks together in a corner with some lame activities director, we started hiring college-level professors and doing real programming. We put things on a semester basis, and end every semester with culminating events and opportunities to use skills in real-life applications. If you do a painting class, you have an art show. If there's a poetry class, we have a poetry slam. If we teach a creative writing class, people get up on stage to perform. We make plays and do films. Last semester we did a claymation program with older adults mentoring teens, where each of them did a two-minute claymation film together.

Anything we come across that looks great we apply to our model and absorb it. We find great teachers and pay really good wages.

And here's the amazing part: You've made all this affordable.

Yes, 95 percent of the people are living at poverty level or below.

How does your model work?

Basically the year that I spent in real estate development taught me what I needed to know about how developers make money and what they value. So I learned their language and created a model that developers could use to win tax credits and tax exemptions and bonds, and city municipality subsidies. We sold them on the fact that our story differentiates their community from just another pile of sticks and bricks and gives them a competitive edge. And that really matters when they stand up in front of a city council or a planning commission or a transportation-oriented development committee that's looking at pumping lots of money into one project versus the other.

We fought tooth and nail every step along the way to educate developers that this is a very important part of what they're doing in their industry and they could really leave a legacy -- and make a lot of money. But our model is really collaborative. I don't to own it. I want to teach other people how do it and get them on their legs and let them fly.

That's genius branding -- and it's socially responsible.

It's just about learning about what motivates. People think developers are evil money-suckers, but a lot of them really want to develop a really good product; they just don't know how. We've become experts at that. We're very involved in the architecture upfront and are reliant partners guiding every step of the way with a developer, rather than acting as an after-the-fact vendor.

It seems like a genuine win-win. Are you exporting this model around the country?

Yes, that's our next step. We just got a grant from the Irvine Foundation to take this on the road. And we're bringing our systems up to speed so we can go in and contract with local nonprofits and teach them how to contract with developers, how to find pieces of land, how to negotiate affordable deals. We spend a couple of years with people supervising things from afar and then we let them fly. We've targeted a few cities now: the Bay area, Sacramento and San Diego. We've also got projects in Minneapolis, Portland and a couple in Arizona. We're looking for partners in key cities around the country. We're really just trying to target places that would be cool to retire in.

I assume that in building these communities, you're thinking about how you, personally, would like to retire?

Yes, absolutely. Where would I want to go and what would I want to do? I think that's a big shift in the industry. There's always a point when people think about their aging parents and ask: 'Would I put my mom or dad there?' That's not a bad question, but a better question is, 'Would I live there?' Baby boomers go through this every day. That said, our parents spent their entire lives making our lives better than theirs. We owe it to them to give it back to them.

What's one thing you know now that you wish you knew growing up?

I've learned that fear doesn't do you any good. It just paralyzes you. Moving forward with conviction tends to be 99 percent of things. There's a lot to be said for finding your bliss and your passion, and for taking a risk and moving forward with it. And that's what we're doing with older people. We want them to be our partners. I don't want people sitting around in their old age saying, 'Okay Tim, what do you have for me today?' I want it to be equal and 50/50. I want them to challenge me. I want them to have the guts to change their lives and really look at this as valuable time -- and not like the lido deck on the Love Boat. That's not what we're here for. We're here to teach them to learn how to fish for themselves.

Check out the slideshow below for images of Carpenter, his Burbank development and his TED Talk, "Thriving As We Age."

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11:12 PM on 05/02/2012
I was raised in Burbank and loved it there. I would love to find affordable housing that also offered classes and programs that help prevent stagnation. I've been retired several years and spend most of my time reading and playing games on the computer. Jim has very good ideas, I hope they can be incorporated all over the country.
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08:31 PM on 05/02/2012
A retirement village run like an actual village? Unimaginable, I mean, what's next? Hedge funds that are actually hedged? Retirement funds that can actually fund a retirement?
08:05 PM on 05/02/2012
I have been playing around with this idea in my head for many years....we have many shopping centers that have been abandoned that could be made into senior living areas. Apartments, doctors, nurses, clinics, restaurants, shops, etc., all geared to seniors. With the population of this country there would always be people to live in these very accommodating areas. Cover all their needs in one place.
07:56 PM on 05/02/2012
OMG.. finally someone that's doing something for the poor! When i first started checking out Assisted Living facilities, i saw right away the big difference. If you were poor (on medicaid) or just-a-bit above poor (like my Dad), you end up living in a "bingo and donuts" housing. I'm sure some of these places try to improve the lives of their elderly (some do not though). I find it appalling that many of these places are "for profit". Business is business. It's hard to believe that a business would spend extra when they know they don't have to. Thank you Tim Carpenter. Come to NY and look around anonymously and witness the sadness here too. :(
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04:00 PM on 05/02/2012
As an inmate of an assisted living facility. My Husband needs the assistance, I am on my own. I participate, in Group outings, scenic drives, finding out local information in my community, but alas, there is NO stimulation for most of the seniors.
I am still able to do Nursing as a LVN, a second career at age 43,They did not want to train us old people who at the time were in their early 40's. Our class started with 50 students, 18 months later 19 of us graduated, average age 47.
Many programs keep older people out, This One incorprates all ages.
My fear is, It has taken me 71 years to learn what I know, I have taught my children, and grand children what I know, but what a waste of very good things I know and can be called upon to give
There is no outlet for this kind of life experiences.
So it will be gone, what a waste.
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12:45 PM on 05/02/2012
Sounds great. Isolation and boredom are the great killers in old age. I can envision the revenge of the counter-culture in the near future: psychedelics to re-imagine our remaining years, pot to sustain our appetites, and communes to share what vitality we have left with those that can appreciate it. Best of all, relief from the shallow frenzy of self-congratulatory individualism that passes for mainstream culture. Yes, let's provide the tools to make every living moment count.
10:38 AM on 05/02/2012
This is awesome. I love this guy!
10:11 AM on 05/02/2012
I Applaud you with this project I wish you all had something in the Woodbridge,VA, Fredricksburg,VA area my Mom lives in a senior community and what she and the others are paying out on SSI and Disability checks leaves them nothing, and true to form it is Bingo and donuts just because you have matured does not mean you want to wait and die. If you ever come to this area I would like to be hired to assist you in your endeavor, this is the best option I have heard about for seniors. Please consider coming to VA, for I know there are seniors and soon to be (self) that would love to see this come to fruitation to have peace of mind and activities instead of being abused and taken advantage of, I Thank you and hope this comes here, Low income senior communities. God Bless You!!!
10:06 AM on 05/02/2012
Wow I am really impressed with Tim's awareness and commitment to senior issues. This guy is genuinely interested about the senior population of which with every birthday am heading there myself. Talk about thinking out of the box and challenging seniors to reach beyond clipping dinner coupons and early bird specials. These seniors still have talents that helped them through a lifetime and there is no need for them to put those away and live in the past with no future to challenge them.
Good work Tim and keep up your forward thinking. People like me who are quickly heading into senior status need to be challenged when we walk away from the workplace.
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angler725
It's gotten comical now.
09:13 AM on 05/02/2012
Gee, ever hear about "The Villages" in central Florida? (google it) Re-invention of the wheelbarrow again with this guys idea. Except that in The "Villages", it's golf, golf and more golf. Interspersed with activity #1 of eating out. I do admire seniors who will try to broaden their minds, instead of yakking loudly (because their hearing is going?) about what they USED to do. Ok, so you were a Marine. I saw your bumperstickers and the Globe and Anchor on your (sweaty, everpresant) cap. Thank you sir. But come on now, there must be something else in there (your head). I get it, you were the East Coast sales manager......you told me that the last 15 times I talked to you. What book are you reading right now? Oh I see, the breakfast buffet over there is great and you have a coupon. And no, I don't play Eucre and I do know that you are turning 82 next week. You just told me, again. But the above just applys to where I live, and it's not in "The Villages". I suppose I'll be doing that stuff in another 12 yrs. too, if I live that long. (I fish, but maybe 2-3 times a month. Most of my spare time I use to study music theory and playing flute (classical) and sax (jazz)) Hooah, Marines.
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08:14 PM on 05/02/2012
Karma can bite you in the butt. Cut this article out, tape it to fridge and then remember this when you are elderly.
08:28 AM on 05/02/2012
It's a shame all the senior (over 55) housing in our area is really for the well to do or upper middle income. A bunch started out (when promoting) saying they would be at one price point then after everything was approved all of a sudden the costs went up and avg. seniors could not afford. Would be great if something like this happened in the North East where living costs are so high.
07:27 AM on 05/02/2012
You are my hero, Tim Carpenter. Wish you could get this going on the East Coast...like yesterday...Am a 70 yo retiree, and, indeed, where I live offers Bingo and Wii... I feel like I live in a nursing home...and, am soooooo stifled!! Wish you were here!!!!! You go...hope it's better all over the country for you and everyone your age, then it is for the rest of us. Oh, I do find things to do...but, difficult, with poor accessibility, and expensive....Again...you go...What a guy!!!
12:28 PM on 05/01/2012
Anything that helps seniors I am all for. Housing is a huge issue here in California because it is so expensive. For people that live on social security housing is very tough. Most seniors need assistance in this area. Most seniors have to take medication. They say Americans pay more for meds than anywhere else. Alot of people stay in their cars so they don't have to pay the huge rents here. They can get help thru the hud program and the waiting list is about seven years. If people can get off the streets and in housing, it would be great if they were involved in the arts. After all it was their generation that gave us all the wonderful music that inspired our own generation, which would include theater, movies, radio, TV, and all the new technoligical applications out there.
08:50 AM on 05/02/2012
So true! I hope this spreads like wildfire!
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12:54 PM on 05/02/2012
Until about 15 or 20 years ago, LA had lots more low income and senior citizen housing. When builders built places like Warner Center, they had to provide a certain amount of low cost and senior citizen housing for a certain amount of time. My aunt got an apartment in Warner Center... she was on SSI... even back in the 1980s she was on the waiting list for 3 years. Now all those apartments go for $1000-1500/mo. All of those complexes have timed out of that program.... so there's now a huge lack of affordable housing for everyone. This is why there are so many RVs on the streets.

It's only going to get worse because the Boomer generation is so huge and will be in dire need of senior housing. The Senior Boomers will grab up the afforable housing and the Junior Boomers will be in the cold.
08:26 PM on 04/30/2012
Tim Carpenter's doing a great job. It's a shame that we're forced into categories, every stage of life should be an opportunity to create and live fully. I hope we, as a nation, can learn to age better regardless of our incomes.
03:26 PM on 04/30/2012
Definitely worth a FB share.