"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
- Einstein
"It would be very difficult to explain why the Universe would have begun in just this way, except as the act of a God who intended to create beings like us."
- Steven Hawking
"A theology that contradicts the known facts of science including the laws of physics, chemistry, biology, cosmo-genesis and evolution is obsolete and rightfully so. A science that reduces the rich inner life of consciousness to raw data is absurd and also obsolete." - Deepak Chopra
Today, 3/14 , is Einstein's birthday and the day of the debate at Cal-Tech on the Future of God. (3.14 is also Pi, another amazing coincidence.)
I would like to offer the following ideas on the Future of God: A New Theory of the Divine.
1. God is Infinite Consciousness. Consciousness is awareness, before thinking starts, before perception happens, before neural activity, before there is relationship with space-time, before there is subject-object split.
2. God is the agent of downward causation.
3. God is the consciousness that differentiates into space, time, energy information and matter.
4. Cosmogenesis, Biopoesis Evolution : The principle of parsimony (Occam's razor) dictates that God is the author of the Big Bang (neither big nor noisy) a moment where a point of infinite density and zero volume starts creation in an instant. For the first 10-43 seconds of this moment of creation, the laws of creation do not exist and are essentially unknowable. At 10-43 seconds universal constants are arbitrarily assigned. These are about 20, including the mass of the neutron, speed of light, gravitational constant, charge of the electron, strong and weak force etc. From then on cosmogenesis proceeds automatically obeying the universal laws that have been set in motion. 10 billion years later our sun appears and starts to fragment pieces of itself to create its own solar system, including planet earth 30 million years after the formation of the sun. Because of conditions already set in motion, a biosphere is created and soon abiogenesis or biopoesis happens, an unknown and possibly unknowable process by which inanimate matter becomes DNA. From then on, microorganisms (chemolithoautotrophic hyperthermophiles) start to differentiate into the teeming diversity of life through gene variation and natural selection.
Photosynthesis develops around 2.5 billion years ago. Evolution proceeds naturally once set in motion through gene variation and natural selection. The current state of this process is homo sapiens and an exquisite nervous system through which consciousness becomes conscious of itself through us.
5. Each moment of time a new universe is created. Fundamentally the universe is a discontinuity. In each moment of time the universe is not only recreated but also evolves. This recreation happens in the Gap where consciousness resides. The Gap is:
(a) a super position of possibilities
(b) a field of infinite non local correlation, dynamic and kinematic
(c) a field of quantum creativity
(d) an intention field, (the observer effect) -- where consciousness collapses its possibility waves into space -- time events, which are measured out as motion, energy, information and matter.
All this happens in the unified field -- the mind of God.
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Ervin Laszlo: Cosmic Symphony: A Deeper Look at Quantum Consciousness
In the past this kind of consciousness has been limited to exceptionally sensitive and creative people: to healers and poets, prophets and spiritual masters. In the future it could spread to a wider segment of the population.
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I hope that you do read the comments to your article. I wander if you could rake the time to respond. I did enjoy reading tour article about spirituality, but felt the need to respond to this one. The very notion of a title The future of God, goes against the very nature of the divine being beyond time. A title with a little bit more respect for the divine could be: The future of our understanding of God.
Surely any discussion about God should begin with the recognition that God is a mystery beyond our understanding and cognition. So any such discussion by its very nature limits the divine within the boundaries of human consciousness. And surely the future of God in the first place is depended on God. And there is always the danger of hubris so prevalent in our culture, that put itself before God What is most interesting is the inter relationship between human and divine , a supposed duality that is in fact essentially is one.
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"...What is most interesting is the inter relationship between human and divine , a supposed duality that is in fact essentially is one."...
You are terribly loosey-goosey with what you presume to be "fact".
...Like...maybe try pulling the reigns in on your own "hubris"...
Divine Saucer Chief
3/17/10
See how it moves?
Are you doing that or are the gears inside doing that automatically once the ignition was turned on?
Who turns the key in the ignition?
Are you "instructing", consciously, the sinews, muscles, corpuscles, cells, bones, organs how to move in order to type your question? Do you consciously, verbally or mentally, instruct your body on how to walk?
Do you know "exactly" how you will end a sentence once you start it?
See the computer?
You understand it fully, right?
You understand electricity and how it 'moves' through the wires, converts to energy used by the computer which converts it to "1's" and "0's"? You understand all of that thoroughly, right?
See the rising sun?
Did you receive a guarantee from, oh, say, the government or a science board or a church council that it would be there this morning when you went to sleep last night?
See the pyramids?
You can duplicate them, right? Brick by stone, exact duplicates, full size, right?
That's what I like, superhumans! Cynical superhumans!
I'll bet you secretly enjoyed "Alice" when the queen says "Off with their heads" didn't you?
How does my body's mechanistic, physical functioning result in a conclusion of god? It is not self-evident. In fact, examination seems to indicate no supernatural action at all. Are you implying that the only way anything can happen is through conscious thought? There is no way anything can happen on its own?
You need to be specific.
See how it moves?
Are you doing that or are the gears inside doing that automatically once the ignition was turned on?
Who turns the key in the ignition?
Are you "instructing", consciously, the sinews, muscles, corpuscles, cells, bones, organs how to move in order to type your question? Do you consciously, verbally or mentally, instruct your body on how to walk?
Do you know "exactly" how you will end a sentence once you start it?
See the computer?
You understand it fully, right?
You understand electricity and how it 'moves' through the wires, converts to energy used by the computer which converts it to "1's" and "0's"? You understand all of that thoroughly, right?
See the rising sun?
Did you receive a guarantee from, oh, say, the government or a science board or a church council that it would be there this morning when you went to sleep last night?
See the pyramids?
You can duplicate them, right? Brick by stone, exact duplicates, full size, right?
That's what I like, superhumans! Cynical superhumans!
I'll bet you secretly enjoyed "Alice" when the queen says "Off with their heads" didn't you?***
No mate, I asked for the evidence of God
I didn't ask for a bad attempt at poetry.
Albert Einstein
One of the latest finding is that Superclusters together form filaments which arc through the universe like cosmic threads surrounding empty voids called, what else, voids. These filaments are the largest structures in the universe.
So I was looking at this picture of the large structures and how they thread towards each other and I thought, "This looks like something else, what is it?" I stopped and thought and it came to me.
Brain Neurons.
The entire universe is structured like a brain.
Wow.
I guess he means that consciousness is a persistent vegitative state.
Last I heard, "awareness" required perception and sense organs of some sort.
And the idea that consciousness (the one thing we humans have over the rest of the animals)
is somehow some godly trait is just more of us making god in our own image.
Don't get me wrong, I loves me some imaginatin' and problem solvin', but it's no more a universal
godly attribute than a firefly's ability to glow in the dark.
Let there be light!
Or more stone age nonsense repackaged in scientific jargon for those "too smart" for discredited religions.
Yeah, we were discussing this below. Without points of reference, how could the Uber-Mind ever begin the process of imagining up a Universe? In fact, it would suffer cosmic motor ataxia.
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--Deepak Chopra
"A stupid man's report of what a clever man says is never accurate because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand."
--Bertrand Russell
You may have read this before, but, if you haven't, I'm sure you'd like Russell's An Outline of Intellectual Rubbish. Here it is.
http://www.solstice.us/russell/intellectu
"If you can't explain something to a five year old, then you don't understand it."
I could never figure out what the hell he meant.
Just kidding. I think it's useful advice.
Ooh! I've got it. I can explain anything to a five-year-old and he will understand it.
It's just that it might take thirty years to finish the explanation because I'm gonna have to start from scratch.
After all, before you can understand quantum cosmology, you're going to have to first understand tensor analysis and before you can understand tensor analysis, you're going to have to first understand vector analysis and before you can understand vector analysis, you're going to have to first understand multi-variate calculus and before you can understand multi-variate calculus....
One should not revel in one's ignorance as if it were a badge of honor.
Saying,"If you can't explain something to a five year old, then you don't understand it," is an analogous way of expressing that if you better understand an idea, then you can better explain it to others.
One should think before one reacts.
Have you ever "known" something, and found out later by using empirical evidence, that it was true. If so, how would you explain this.
Have you ever "known" something, and found out later by using empirical evidence, that it was NOT true?
For that is, in a nutshell, the entire history of science - replacing fallacious but fervently believed supernatural explanations for phenomena with natural explanations.
Furthermore, there is, in all of the history of science, not a single example of the opposite happening.
Yet, supernatural thinkers still play the same game, appropriating select scientific facts and terminology in order to promote supernatural explanations that lack any evidence whatsoever.
People of faith who call it faith, deserve respect. People of faith who call it "science", while continuing to ignore contrary evidence and continuing to assert supernatural explanations without any evidence, do not deserve respect.
Nor do those who quote Einstein out of context, in defense of their own supernatural faith in a god. As Chopra knows well, Einstein strongly and unequivocably stated his opposition to people who misuse his statements to imply that Einstein actually believed in a supernatural deity of any kind.
evidence, that it was NOT true? "
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Dubya, Cheney, Rumsfeld and WMD..???
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Then finding the science to back up what you saw?