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Divorce Diaries: I'm Excited To Be Interested In My Life

Posted: 05/21/2012 6:50 pm

I'll be chronicling my new life as I go through the divorce process and I hope you'll follow my journey. If you're looking for me to bash my ex, that won't happen. But if you're looking for a woman and mom excited for a new life, if you find it interesting to read about the roller coaster of emotions and all of the things that come with starting over... then join me here


If only I had listened to my mother, I would have always been interested and involved. I will never forget when my parents got divorced and my mom, who was totally involved in my parents' finances, gave very me clear advice: that no matter who I married, I needed to be on top of everything, including all the finances.

Every person, no matter what the situation, should know how much their rent is. Every person should know all the information about their mortgage including if they can get a better interest rate. Why are your credit bills the way they are? Do you know your spouse's salary? Are you contributing to a retirement fund? Do you have any investments? Are you saving money? How much is your son's soccer class? How much does the vacation you want to take cost? Why haven't you saved a dollar of your own salary?

I knew my relevant information when I was single but I couldn't answer any of those questions once I got married. I don't even know where the bills are. I don't even know how to log into our online accounts. I've rarely looked at our credit card bill. I tuned out any discussion that mattered.

All of this is no ones fault but my own. All of it bored me. I had no interest and I had a smart and organized husband so there was no need to waste my time and energy on things he could do.

So I never paid a bill. I never asked a question. I never looked at our bank account. I never inquired about our savings. I never showed an interest.

I never should have lived this way.

Now that I'm getting divorced, I finally realized it is time to become involved in my own life. It's time to be interested in my finances. So this week I started over. I applied for a new credit card. I transferred my newspaper subscriptions to my own name. I opened a new bank account. I set it up online. I started a new document with all of my bills, finances and responsibilities.

I will be involved in my life. I will organize my life the way I always should have.

I know I can do it. I've been doing it for three years for my start up business. I just wish I had done it for my start-up adult life. Then I wouldn't have to start fresh now. I've kept a spreadsheet of my business accounts. I've set up invoices, maintained all bookkeeping details and prepared our business's finances for tax purposes. In business I'm organized. I can handle it all. I just didn't want to do it in my personal life.

Clearly I can do it. It was just easier to have someone else handle what I didn't want to do.

Now I have to begin again, and I can't wait. I just wish I paid attention so I wouldn't have to play catch up now.

So if you are not going to listen to your mother, listen to me.

 

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10:32 PM on 06/18/2012
Wise advice I hope everyone listens to1
My husband insisted on being in control of the finances, and since we were living well, I figured he was doing a good job. Then I started asking about finances and he refused to answer me or lied to me or got angry at me. Then the abuse started. After 30 years, I divorced him still knowing nothing about our finances. Seems he had spent his time very productively before the divorce. He hid all the money. He is a doctor....he liquidated all my retirement accounts, stocks and bonds, children's college money, and stopped paying mortgage, health insurance. The house short sold. I am now destitute, he is flying to Hawaii next week and taking the 2 adult kids with him for a week.
If I had only known.
12:18 PM on 06/06/2012
and if you haven't taken this sage advice at least set goals,develop a plan,organize and manage your divorce.
02:51 PM on 06/02/2012
I married a guy who played video games, had alot of debt, is an education consumer .. tons of school loan and has been unwilling to hold a job in his field. In the meantime, we have had 2 sons, i have refused joint accounts, have learned about finances in USA, ( am from a third world country and never knew about loans credit cards etc,, always paid cash for everyhing), bought a houses and life goes on. I am looking into job # 2!

Why? because of the children!! but i manage my money !
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Olderandwiser55
getting older and wiser....
05:36 PM on 05/28/2012
Denise-great advice!
11:22 PM on 05/25/2012
When hubby found out I was saving for a dishwasher, he went out that very night and bought one, even though previous to this, he said I didn't need one! He was afraid that I would tell everyone that "I" bought a dishwasher! This man was very weird and insecure! Always treated me as one of his kids not his partner!
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Xak999
It came out of the faucet that way...
07:52 AM on 05/26/2012
Well, casper48626:

Why did you marry him?
11:20 PM on 05/25/2012
OMG....so true. Be involved in the family finances! My husband would never tell me anything, and even in the beginning when we were first married, he point blank told me that he would handle the money. Being very young and inexperienced I didn't put up a fuss. We both worked in an auto factory and made about the same in wages. But guess what? I never had any money in my purse. We deposited our checks in our checking account which was ok because we wanted to buy a home. But when I said that I would like a few dollars to spend as I see fit, whether for a coffee at work, a magazine or book, he said "what do you need money for? If you want something tell me and I will get it for you. That should have been a big clue to what he was like! He ruled the roost. He told me that if I wanted anything I should ask him for money or write a check! Hmmmm, write a check for a magazine???? It was that way for years until I was able to get a very good job that paid only a couple of dollars less than he made as a skilled trades worker at GM. That put his nose out of joint when I could buy anything I wanted without asking him for every dollar. Years ago I worked in a beauty shop and was saving for a portable dish washer.
07:52 AM on 05/31/2012
So sorry you went through that. That's called economic abuse. A lot of people still don't recognize that as a form of abuse, but it is.
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Sherry Powell
You are never too old to learn something stupid
09:27 PM on 05/25/2012
Your mother was wise... Even if one partner is better at the finances the other needs to know everything. It's not about trust..but what if one is in a accident and can't take care of things? If one dies you'd be surprised just how many loose ends you need to address. And if one takes charge and goofs up you are both in trouble. If your hubby doesn't pay the IRS they will still come after you and saying you don't know won't help.
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05:24 PM on 05/25/2012
As a Women's editor, the ladies of my community assumed I had answers to all their most personal problems and would appear at my desk (sans appointment) in tears and consumed with their own problems .

"My husband left me and I don't know how to drive or write a check." (They managed to get to my office, though) Or, "My husband left me and I don't know how to pay the household bills and can't get a job because I have no preparation or experience." ( Lawdy!)

No one can cure these problems but the individual involved. There is only one response (but they never want to hear it) - learn to drive, learn to run a house and learn to write a check and balance a check book.

Women are not chattel nor are they stupid and can't learn how to stand on their own but some of them like to appear so.
Reneauj
Only the truth be told....
05:16 PM on 05/25/2012
Yawwwwwwn!!!!
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04:39 PM on 05/25/2012
Watch out before you get married , are there any signs hes depending on you financially . Maybe some sob storys . KNOW the financial debt one might have . Get a credit check and know what your getting involved in .Know a persons hobbys such as gambling ,sports and intersest . The intent of marriage might not be for the right reasons Watch out ,if one spouse wants EVERYTHING IN THEIR NAME , what happens next might catch you UNPREPARED . .Watch out when all he cares about is HIS credit score and not yours .See the red flags and listen to others that has been where you might be headed .
10:59 AM on 05/26/2012
So true. I have a friend who runs credit checks on her boyfriends. I don't go that far because I keep everything separate and handle my own finances. I also don't file taxes or obtain credit jointly.
02:23 PM on 05/25/2012
I really don't understand this mindset, and yet I'm married to one who is just like you. No matter what I do, I cannot get him involved in our family's finances. It's frustrating. I guess he figures it's easier if I handle it all, and maybe it is -- for him. But what you who are happy-go-lucky do not understand is that you are leaving a great burden on our shoulders for now, but when/if a divorce happens, an even greater burden will be on YOUR shoulders as you struggle to play catch-up. We, on the other hand, already have our books together. We know what is what and where it is and how to handle it. I'd like to think I'd help my husband get back on his feet after a divorce, but I've seen too many acrimonious divorces to assume I'd be the nice ex-spouse out of so many not-so-nice exes.

And still, what saddens me even more than that is the realization is that nowhere in this article was the concept of teamwork. These were your family's finances, and you never once showed an interest. Now that your family has lost a member, they have become YOUR finances, and you suddenly care.
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Sherry Powell
You are never too old to learn something stupid
09:31 PM on 05/25/2012
I'm married to one like your hubby and my greatest fear is getting ill and he has to step up to the plate. Good Grief he doesn't even know the pass code to the checking account. I'll be out in the street in my death bed... Thank goodness I have a smart daughter and I'll assign everything to her to handle for me. JUST in case.
08:37 AM on 05/26/2012
This eventuality concerns me, too. I don't know what he'd do or how things would work out. I worry.
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Xak999
It came out of the faucet that way...
07:54 AM on 05/26/2012
pi31415:

Why did you marry him?
11:46 AM on 05/22/2012
I wish I had listened to my mother AND grandmother who always said have your own money!! Work!! Be involved with your finances. But did I listen, NO! Now going through a divorce after 25 years I have no job, no personal pension and I really suspect my husband of squirreling away money because he was having an affair for a couple of years before he finally left. My advice to my children will be the same as I got, but hopefully they will listen!
12:29 PM on 05/23/2012
It's not just telling them that. Depending on the age of the kids you should take them and set up savings accounts for them now. Also if they are old enough to purchase property, they shoudl do it. Any property purchased before marriage is usually not part of a divorce deal but you really need to check with attorneys in your state. I've worked since I was 14 and no man has ever taken care of me. I've always taken care of myself and that's the only way to go to avoid heartache and hard feelings.
08:13 PM on 05/25/2012
I am so very sorry to see what you are going through right now. I am not sure which state you are in but this info is worth checking into, most states offer school/training to women who were homemakers during the marriage. There is length of time you had to be married, but I am sure 25 years meets that. It's usually a vocational school, but you earn a degree or license in a trade and they even help with child care and some expenses. Contact your local Department of Human Services office and someone there should be able to tell you about the program. Best wishes to you and your children.
bgbytoys
staring down the corrrect end of a 45 barrel
11:05 AM on 05/22/2012
i see it all the time at work. guy comes in for a loan. you ask questions and they say, gee i really don't know, my wife takes care of all of that.

i want to say but i don't he dummy i was just like you. my ex embezzled money out of a business account, stashed thousands of my pay. you got to get involed.

i did find all these things. the only reason she didn't go to jail is that she is the mother of my children.
12:30 PM on 05/23/2012
Prisons allow the kids to visit. You were very nice.
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09:09 AM on 05/22/2012
OH, the heartache and anguish of the privileged, entitled, white, upper middle class...

How did the food, clothes, vacations, cars, gas, mortgage, insurance, lawn care, maintenance, electricity, and restaurants bills get paid? How would you know? "You didn't care." You know who does care? THOSE WHO COULD NOT AFFORD TO LIVE LIKE THEY DIDN'T CARE.
01:32 AM on 05/26/2012
Oh please. Don't make hard working people feel bad for enjoying their hard earned money because lazy people who didn't succeed are not doing as well. No one is stopping those people from going out and busting their butt in college or whatever. I know people who came from the bottom only to rise above and get a great job. People who do well should not feel guilty nor should they apologize to bums. Work hard, get awesome things.
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03:36 AM on 05/26/2012
How true--- HOW TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Xak999
It came out of the faucet that way...
07:57 AM on 05/26/2012
excursade:

When you make blanket statements about all people who are incapable of working for whatever reason, that they are lazy, my goodness, don't you see how immature, narrow-minded and unable to think for yourself that makes you look?
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05:29 AM on 05/22/2012
When my ex left, I was in the dark about finances. It wasn't always this way. For the first several years, we did everything together. I learned to trust him and trust that we had similar financial goals. Then, for a few years, I was the minister of finance, as I had more time. When billing went electronic and I took on grad school on top of a full time job, the baton was passed to him. Unfortunately, he took advantage of the role.

Ideally, both partners are involved equally. However, it today's rapid-paced society and with our busy lives, it is often more practical to divide and conquer what needs to be done. Ultimately; however, each partner is responsible for ensuring his/her financial well-being.

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