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Can Christianity Be Saved? A Response to Ross Douthat

Posted: 07/15/2012 4:55 pm

In recent days, conservatives have attacked the Episcopal Church. The reason? The church has just concluded its once every three-year national meeting, and in this gathering the denomination affirmed a liturgy to bless same-sex unions. Conservatives assert that the Episcopal Church's ever-increasing social and political progressivism has led to a precipitous membership decline and ruined the denomination.

Many of the criticisms were mean-spirited or partisan, continuing a decade-long internal debate about the Episcopal Church's future. However, New York Times columnist Ross Douthat broadened the discussion, moving beyond inside-baseball ecclesial politics to ask a larger question: "Can Liberal Christianity be Saved?"

The question is a good one, for the liberal Christian tradition is an important part of American culture, from dazzling literary and intellectual achievements to great social reform movements. Mr. Douthat recognizes these contributions and rightly praises this aspect of liberal Christianity as "an immensely positive force in our national life."

Despite this history, however, Mr. Douthat insists that any denomination committed to contemporary liberalism will ultimately collapse. According to him, the Episcopal Church and its allegedly trendy faith, a faith that varies from a more worthy form of classical liberalism, is facing imminent death.

His argument, however, is neither particularly original nor true. It follows a thesis first set out in a 1972 book, Why Conservative Churches Are Growing by Dean Kelley. Drawing on Kelley's argument, Douthat believes that in the 1960s liberal Christianity overly accommodated to the culture and loosened its ties to tradition. This rendered the church irrelevant and led to a membership hemorrhage. Over the years, critics of liberal churches used numerical decline not only as a sign of churchgoer dissatisfaction but of divine displeasure. To those who subscribe to Kelley's analysis, liberal Christianity long ago lost its soul--and the state of Protestant denominations is a theological morality tale confirmed by dwindling attendance.

That was 1972. Forty years later, in 2012, liberal churches are not the only ones declining. It is true that progressive religious bodies started to decline in the 1960s. However, conservative denominations are now experiencing the same. For example, the Southern Baptist Convention, one of America's most conservative churches, has for a dozen years struggled with membership loss and overall erosion in programming, staffing, and budgets. Many smaller conservative denominations, such as the Missouri Synod Lutherans, are under pressure by loss. The Roman Catholic Church, a body that has moved in markedly conservative directions and of which Mr. Douthat is a member, is straining as members leave in droves. By 2008, one in ten Americans considered him- or herself a former Roman Catholic. On the surface, Catholic membership numbers seem steady. But this is a function of Catholic immigration from Latin America. If one factors out immigrants, American Catholicism matches the membership decline of any liberal Protestant denomination. Decline is not exclusive to the Episcopal Church, nor to liberal denominations--it is a reality facing the whole of American Christianity.

Douthat points out that the Episcopal Church has declined 23% in the last decade, identifying the loss as a sign of its theological infidelity. In the last decade, however, as conservative denominations lost members, their leaders have not equated the loss with unfaithfulness. Instead, they refer to declines as demographic "blips," waning evangelism, or the impact of secular culture. Membership decline has no inherent theological meaning for either liberals or conservatives. Decline only means, as Gallup pointed out in a just-released survey, that Americans have lost confidence in all forms of institutional religion.

The real question is not "Can liberal Christianity be saved?" The real question is: Can Christianity be saved?

Liberal Christians experienced this decline sooner than their conservative kin, thus giving them a longer, more sustained opportunity to explore what faith might mean to twenty-first century people. Introspective liberal churchgoers returned to the core of the Christian vision: Jesus' command to "Love God and love your neighbor as yourself." As a result, a sort of neo-liberal Christianity has quietly taken root across the old Protestant denominations--a form of faith that cares for one's neighbor, the common good, and fosters equality, but is, at the same time, a transformative personal faith that is warm, experiential, generous, and thoughtful. This new expression of Christianity maintains the historic liberal passion for serving others but embraces Jesus' injunction that a vibrant love for God is the basis for a meaningful life. These Christians link spirituality with social justice as a path of peace and biblical faith.

Unexpectedly, liberal Christianity is--in some congregations at least--undergoing renewal. A grass-roots affair to be sure, sputtering along in local churches, prompted by good pastors doing hard work and theologians mostly unknown to the larger culture. Some local congregations are growing, having seriously re-engaged practices of theological reflection, hospitality, prayer, worship, doing justice, and Christian formation. A recent study from Hartford Institute for Religion Research discovered that liberal congregations actually display higher levels of spiritual vitality than do conservative ones, noting that these findings were "counter-intuitive" to the usual narrative of American church life.

There is more than a little historical irony in this. A quiet renewal is occurring, but the denominational structures have yet to adjust their institutions to the recovery of practical wisdom that is remaking local congregations. And the media continues to fixate on big pastors and big churches with conservative followings as the center-point of American religion, ignoring the passion and goodness of the old liberal tradition that is once again finding its heart. Yet, the accepted story of conservative growth and liberal decline is a twentieth century tale, at odds with what the surveys, data, and best research says what is happening now. Indeed, I think that the better story of contemporary Christianity is that of an awakening of a more open, more inclusive, more spiritually vital faith is roiling and I argue for that in my recent book, Christianity After Religion.

So, Mr. Douthat asks, "Can Liberal Christianity Be Saved?" But I wonder: Can Liberal Churches Save Christianity? The twenty-first century has yet to answer that, but I think we may be surprised.

 
 
 

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In recent days, conservatives have attacked the Episcopal Church. The reason? The church has just concluded its once every three-year national meeting, and in this gathering the denomination affirme...
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SecularAdvocate
Media Watcher
08:11 PM on 08/02/2012
The Internet - where religion comes to die.

What sustains a church best? Tiny communities with limited connections to the outside world.

What destroys one? An influx of new ideas and influences.

Religion is just six different kinds of toast. And not the kind you get pictures of Mother Mary on.
07:03 PM on 07/25/2012
The decline in the Episcopal Church isn't due to "theological infidelity" but to its refusial to support religious experience. Almost 40 years ago, the hierarchy took away the liturgy Episcopalians loved and shoved a stinking piece of garbage in contemporary English down our throats. They took away the dim religious light, the fancy language, the woo-woo and metaphysical thrills because, we were told, all this was nasty, escapist and self-indulgent. We weren't supposed to go to church to get religious experience, to enjoy the aesthetics, but to be energized to do social justice and do-good work.

Sorry, I have no interest in goody-goody do-good projects, or in making the world a better place. I want my metaphysical thrills, my woo-woo, my peak experiences. If the church won't provide that, because of their moralistic, manipulative puritanism they can eat shit. The church has nothing else to offer that isn't available cheaper and better from secular sources.

If churches don't provide religion--that is, the experience, the thrill, the sense of the supernatural they're worthless.
02:00 PM on 07/25/2012
Yes, I think many will indeed be surprised. Christianism in its myriad masks and incarnations may fade away, leaving the polarized parishioners Right and Left to stand on the sidelines as something better than religion (even better than god) emerges: cooperative, collaborative, secular (down to earth; natural not super-natural) human community. Hard work ahead. This is realistic liberalism, and pragmatic progress by true Progressives.
newshound620
Still here
11:48 AM on 07/25/2012
As to your headline question, the answer is, I hope not.
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jessjesskk
Benevolent Zombie Power
06:00 AM on 08/04/2012
"Amen" to that!
newshound620
Still here
10:17 AM on 08/04/2012
That's the best looking red nose I've ever seen.
04:30 AM on 07/25/2012
This is my Christianity. I am a Christian. I was an atheist for the bulk of my life. I live alone. God came into my life when I was home alone and proved himself to me. I wasn't "brainwashed" by any group; I was blessed by God. I started reading the Bible. Because I was already blessed with God's spirit, it was easy to accept what the Bible was saying. Before, I couldn't accept any of it. I am a Christian because I believe what Jesus said; what was said about Him. I believe He is the unique son of God and I try to follow His ways, although I fail way too often. That is my Christianity. I know I am a true believer although my actions and words do not always show it. After re-reading other posts I have made on other boards, I certainly did not come off as a Christian. My anger and frustration diminished my focus on God. That's my disgrace, my sin and my need to repent, my need to stay focused on what God is trying to teach me. My personal relationship with Father God and belief in Jesus is my Christianity. I don't attend church regularly but I should. I don't belong to any denomination. I belong to God and I couldn't possibly be more excited about that. That's my Christianity. Nothing, nor no one, can destroy it.
04:28 PM on 07/29/2012
I was an atheist for the bulk of my life. I live alone. God came into my life when I was home alone and proved himself to me. // I think you were just lonley and needed an imaginary friend, LOL
08:40 PM on 07/29/2012
Living alone doesn't automatically mean "lonely" and I can't begin to understand how you came to that conclusion. There certainly couldn't have been any intelligence involved in forming that thought. I love living alone. I have 2 sons, 2 daughters-in-law, and a fantastic granddaughter. We get together quite often. I have male and female friends that I interact with regularly; one of those ladies is a special friend with whom I have many happy times. You're assumption of me being lonely couldn't be further from the truth. Put some thought into any future opinions and I'll take them into consideration. Sorry, but this opinion was just stupid.
01:24 AM on 08/19/2012
Dear tellatale,

I was once considered liberal. When I was young I had a teacher explain one group helps the poor and another the wealthy. Being a Christian, I wanted to be on the side of the poor and the disenfranchised. I haven't lost that feeling, but when you don't believe in everything in a group; you get kicked out of it. I am glad you shared your testimony. Dietrich Bonhoeffer spoke of the wonderful gift and blessing when Christians can come together. I am not coming together with you in physical presence; but when the world is recreated in the eschaton, say hello to me. I want you to encourage you to keep living out that faith. You and I both know what joy is, why should we listen to what the world calls happiness and fulfillment when it has only been the shadows. I think of Hebrews 12 in this case. I exhort you to remember you are surrounded by a great cloud of witnesses and you are running the race. Thank you for your comment.

- Phil
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Jacob Aud
09:43 AM on 07/24/2012
A Sneak Attack on Christianity

[[Jesus foretold that his teachings would be subverted. He said:
“The kingdom of the heavens has become like a man that sowed fine seed in his field. While men were sleeping, his enemy came and oversowed weeds in among the wheat, and left.”
Surprisingly, when servants brought the evil deed to the man’s attention and asked for permission to collect the weeds, the man said:
“No; that by no chance, while collecting the weeds, you uproot the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest; and in the harvest season I will tell the reapers, First collect the weeds and bind them in bundles to burn them up, then go to gathering the wheat into my storehouse.”
—Matthew13:24-30

As Jesus explained, the man who sowed wheat in the field represents Jesus, and the seeds he planted represent true Christians. The enemy who sowed weeds among the wheat represents “the Devil.” The weeds represent lawless, apostate men who falsely claim to be servants of God. (Matthew13:36-42) The apostle Paul gave further details of what would happen. He said: “I know that after my going away oppressive wolves will enter in among you and will not treat the flock with tenderness, and from among you yourselves men will rise and speak twisted things to draw away the disciples after themselves.” —Acts20:29,30 ]]

Is Religion Losing Its Influence?
http://www.watchtower.org/e/200702/article_03.htm
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Seedpod1
Truth is the new hate speech
09:37 PM on 07/24/2012
IMHO, one sneak attack on Christianity is from the Watchtower Society. Another is from liberal theology that raises its own teachings above the authority of scripture. Either way, we are not supposed to add anything to scripture, or take anything away.
newshound620
Still here
11:49 AM on 07/25/2012
Good, just lose it.
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jessjesskk
Benevolent Zombie Power
06:04 AM on 08/04/2012
That's the beauty of it: I agree: if you are religious you should not even try to interpret the scriptures: being logic: if you believe in this book: everything in it should be true. And by extension: if anything in is BS then the rest should be too.

The Whale, Jonah, the Flood, Noah's Ark, the world being 6000 years old, earth being the center of everyhting, genesis in 6 days, ...

Yes. Either everything in the book is true or not.
01:26 AM on 08/02/2012
Oh did not the mythical creation jesus claim that he can came for the redemption of the 12 tribes? Where does the cult (wrongly described as a religion) of Christianity figure in his "scheme" of things to fool the people? And did not Mathew contradict John who contradicts Mark and Luke would have written a different story. which one do you believe? Please read http://burningcross.net/crusades/christian-missionary-atrocities.html and you will know the atrocities this cult is still upt the latest being the killing (Dec 12, 2007) of most revered Swami in Orissa by the hired killers of the Archbishop of Odisha in India because he resisted conversion to this cult. This cult is terminally ill and wil soon die of it's dose of it's own carcinogens.
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Jacob Aud
11:40 AM on 08/02/2012
Will Religion Ever Be a Force for Peace?

“LET’S make the world a better place. Let’sget rid of religion.” That is what Dutch philosopher Floris van den Berg recommends in his published lecture entitled “How to Get Rid of Religion, and Why.” Around the world experts in various fields of knowledge are likewise promoting the abolition of religion.
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“The world needs to wake up from its long nightmare of religious belief,” declares Nobel laureate and physicist Steven Weinberg. The idea that the evils of this world could be greatly minimized by eliminating religion has been loudly articulated in recent years. Books against religion proliferate and are quite popular.

Leading scientists have gathered to discuss what they consider to be the urgent need to eradicate religion. An emerging wave of atheists is flooding the media with their unapologetic hatred of religion. Are these well-respected thinkers on the right track?

http://www.watchtower.org/e/201101/article_04.htm
07:28 PM on 07/23/2012
To call a new rite for same-sex couples a solemnization of holy matrimony, or marriage, would be an innovation. But this is not what General Convention did. In fact, if we read the small print, it carefully avoided this term. Anyone who maintains that General Convention has actually made an innovation in defiance of tradition is mistaken. (Whether this error is deliberate I will not presume to say. Don't ascribe to malice what can be explained by ignorance...)

For hundreds of years, some of the most traditional parts of the church had rites to bless same-sex friendships. I will admit (pace John Boswell) that sexual activity between the partners was not specifically contemplated. Nevertheless, these rites resembled marriage rites, and the burden of proof would be on anyone today who tries to maintain either that it never happened, or that use of the rites was usually preceded by some kind of enquiry or promise to ensure that it would not happen.

Loneliness and neglect of the elderly are problems as severe in contemporary society as ever, if not more so. Hence the need for friends to make a commitment to each other is as great a need. This constitutes an excellent reason for this tradition to be restored. That a part of the church dares to do so is peculiar grounds for anathema-- and even more pecular when the criticism is that the church is disregarding tradition.
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UncleDale
retired librarian fromMaine,living in Florida.
02:17 PM on 07/23/2012
We need another Reformation in which it is admitted that Christ was a great human being;meditated and left a great message and exsample for us to try to emulate. thomas Jefferson was also of this opinion on the non-divinity of Christ. Take a loot at his Jefferson Bible where he edited all the miracles out of the text.
Sticking with a death oriented religion that promises eternal damnation to all the people on earth if they don't become believers is not working any more.
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Seedpod1
Truth is the new hate speech
08:54 AM on 07/24/2012
Christianity is not working any more? Is pragmatism the measure of Biblical truth?

Christ was more than just a great human being. He was the Word that became flesh and walked among us. He was God. Don't be part of the mob shouting "Crucify Him! He's not who he claims to be!"
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Sieggy
A renaissance man in a post-modern world
12:46 PM on 07/23/2012
The fundamental problem with christianity is that they have, for the most part, rejected the teachings of Jesus and focused on other parts of the bible the various sects find more appealing. Following the teachings of Jesus actually requires great spiritual strength and emotional maturity. This means that most 'christians' who want effortless salvation have only to say "AH HAYUV JAYZUZ IYUN MAH HART!!!" and then pay lip service to whatever the preacher (or Fox news, which is pretty much the same thing) is carrying on about, and they're 'good christians'. Nothing else required . . .
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Soulmentor
"To thine own self be true...."
04:01 AM on 07/23/2012
I recently finished reading Ms Bass' book CHRISTIANITY AFTER RELIGION and found myself in tears in the final pages. Her insightful analysis of Christianity v Religion in America today is spot on and profoundly enlightening.
But there is another author and another book that, several years ago presaged this developing great renewal. He is (since retired) Episcopal Bishop John Shelby Spong and his book is WHY CHRISTIANITY MUST CHANGE OR DIE.
And it is changing, as increasing numbers of Progressive Christians are responding to a new Spirituality that is focusing more on the teachings of Jesus and less on the Religion of traditions. Christianity is not dying. It is being reborn.
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Seedpod1
Truth is the new hate speech
07:45 AM on 07/23/2012
Since Bishop Spong's writings reject the idea that God exists (Theism), the creation, the virgin birth, who Jesus was, his death on the cross, his resurrection, etc. (see Wiki), one has to wonder in what way this is Biblical Christianity at all. Bishop Spong and Ms Bass are excellent examples of what Jesus was talking about in Matt 15:

"..you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition. You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you:

'These people honor me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from me.
They worship me in vain;
their teachings are but rules taught by men.'
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Soulmentor
"To thine own self be true...."
12:39 PM on 07/23/2012
You obviously didn't read either book........or comprehend them if you did. Typical.
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wisdom4you
wisdom is/ = alter ego perspectives :-)
11:43 AM on 08/03/2012
Seedpod1 .. what is it about all of you people who have absolutedly no ability to comprehend what you read? if jc even existed, he was no more than a common felon criminal who had been executed as a common felon criminal.
newshound620
Still here
11:51 AM on 07/25/2012
I think Christianity is on the brink of dying, and that's a good thing. You can do good and be a good person without any religion, especially Christianity.
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Soulmentor
"To thine own self be true...."
05:45 PM on 07/25/2012
Perhaps, but I wouldn't go so far as to say it's a good thing except in respect of the "traditional" Christianity we have inherited from the past centuries. That old, beligerant Christianity NEEDS to die. "By their fruits ye shall know them", and the fruits of that Christianity have been war and death, pain and suffering, prejudice and hatred, the opposite of what its namesake wanted of us.
Yes, there have been some good fruits, but I suggest they come not from the Religion, but from the hearts of good people who would be what they are WITHOUT the religion, filled with a Spirit of universal goodness.
Christianity IS dying, but only in the sense that it is being reborn into a new universally developing Spirituality.
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wisdom4you
wisdom is/ = alter ego perspectives :-)
11:45 AM on 08/03/2012
newshound620 so called christianity is dead. The internet being the death knell. The internet tells the truths which are not taught in their stone dungeons they call their churches.
09:55 PM on 07/22/2012
A dynamic not included in any of this disccussion on the dwindling number of people attending church services despite the denomination and its particuliar persuation is that an increasing number of people no necessarily see the need for a mediation between them and God or between them and the spiritual. I'm not saying that relgion no longer has any purpose or relevance but let's say more and more people are experiening a spirituality that is more direct and immediate.
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Hillbilly49
Don't tell me you are a Christian; let me guess.
03:04 PM on 07/22/2012
In every modern democracy in the world Christianity is on the decline; as people understand the universe they are less likely to cling to myths and fables.
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TYRANNASAURUS
UGH!....people taste like crap!
11:38 AM on 07/22/2012
Can Christianity Be Saved?

For the SURVIVAL and ADVANCEMENT of humankind.......I CERTAINLY HOPE NOT!
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bob riversmith
Unregulated capitalism is organized crime.
02:58 AM on 07/22/2012
[Mr. Douthat insists that any denomination committed to contemporary liberalism will ultimately collapse. ]

...and right-wing Xian fundamentalism has driven millions away from Christianity in pure disgust.
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02:09 AM on 07/23/2012
Very true. It's sad considering the good that can be done in the name of religion as well.
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bob riversmith
Unregulated capitalism is organized crime.
01:12 PM on 07/23/2012
[julia ann 1: Very true. It's sad considering the good that can be done in the name of religion as well. ]

I don't think religion poisons everything it touches ... just everything it tries to force.
newshound620
Still here
11:53 AM on 07/25/2012
That's a cop-out. You don't need any religion to do good in the world, and if religion is doing any good at all, it should, it has a lot to answer for.
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froggythegremlin
I'll never do it again, I promise.
02:43 PM on 07/21/2012
Can Christianity be saved? Froggy has a better question: Should Christianity be saved?
10:01 PM on 07/21/2012
Christianity will survive and thrive, no doubt about that.
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lebari
03:10 PM on 07/23/2012
Just like the Greek pantheon and the Egyptian (which was OLD - 3000 years at least - when Christianity started) and countless other religions that have died away. I can see a neo-Christian religion popping up in say, 1000 years with pseudo-Catholic rituals and the Virgin being the Goddess figure (as hopefully by then humanity will have accepted the idea that there are TWO sexes that balance each other, not just one sex and its slave). LOL - Christianity will only be around as long as people are unaware that they are being fooled!
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04:21 PM on 07/23/2012
no doubt.

the druids had the same confidence once as well.
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bob riversmith
Unregulated capitalism is organized crime.
03:00 AM on 07/22/2012
[Can Christianity be saved? Froggy has a better question: Should Christianity be saved? ]

How many extinct religions are there?