Diane Francis

Diane Francis

Posted: October 1, 2008 08:23 AM

Don't touch the stock market

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Here's my latest warning:

Do not be lulled into buying equities because there was a bounce in markets, where some losses were recouped. Or buying because there are stories of billionaires like Warren Buffett going in and cherrypicking opportunities. This is no stock market for investors. Period. This is going to be ugly for months, if not longer. Here is why, a fact missed by the mostly mediocre financial press:

Another massive market meltdown consequence looms, on top of Washington's inability to show the world it will be a leader and mount a rescue. Huge market losses may occur because the deadline for hedge fund redemptions ended September 30 which will lead to the dumping of huge amounts of stock holdings.

"Many hedge fund investors can withdraw money on Dec. 31. Some funds require that redemption requests be submitted 90 days ahead of time. That means requests have to be in by Tuesday (Sept. 30). Other funds require 45 days' notice, so there may be another round of withdrawal requests toward the middle of November," according to Market Watch.
"Some managers have already been selling positions to raise cash to return money to investors. However, if redemption requests come in higher than expected, there could be another wave of selling and market disruption during the fourth quarter."
The hedge fund industry is $2 trillion in size and dumping stock into this market is only going to hurt the funds and their investors even more than is already the case.

CFOs worse
Even worse is the so-called fund of funds phenomenon, or Collateral Fund Obligations (called CFOs). These are hedge funds who gobbled up other hedge funds and securitized them, or sold them as bonds, with the underlying collateral a bunch of hedge funds which could end up having everyone demanding redemptions. In other words, another set of investors owns these securities which may find their collateral disappearing rapidly.
Some hedge fund fine print contracts stipulates that anything more than, say 15% or 20% redemptions, can be staved off for a few months to insure more orderly, and valuable, liquidation but those funds will also end up out of business as investors will balk at delays.

So investors beware

Another wall of woe in markets will be mutual fund unitholders redeeming their units, often all along the way. This is untold billions more which will sell into a declining and weakened market.
These redemptions will blindside everyone, knocking stocks out of their boxes without any justification or warning. There will be no way to know what's going to hit which markets and which equities or when because hedge funds do not have to make full, complete and timely disclosure of redemption rates or stocks they have in their portfolios.
Ironically, hedge funds and others may be dumping their best, and keeping their worst, to meet redemption requirements. This is what happened in 1987 when portfolio managers sold their best into a downward spiral.

I blog at the Financial Post

Here's my latest warning: Do not be lulled into buying equities because there was a bounce in markets, where some losses were recouped. Or buying because there are stories of billionaires like Warren...
Here's my latest warning: Do not be lulled into buying equities because there was a bounce in markets, where some losses were recouped. Or buying because there are stories of billionaires like Warren...
 
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Social Security is supposedly failing! Has anyone heard of Wall Street being assessed money to bail out Social Security? Have the laws deregulating Wall Street been repealed? I received three 0% credit card offers for six months to a year this week. My local newspaper is full of ads offering delayed financing for up to two years. Without fixing the core problem with deregulation of Wall Street and the credit market, no quick fix is acceptable. I now have no choice but to use my doomsday last resort if Congress fails to hear my voice. If Congress pursues this bailout (pig with lipstick or whatever you want to call it) I will vote for a independent Presidential candiate in addition to voting against any incumbent up for reelection who supported it. We all possess this ability to throw the Presidential election into upheaval. Vote independent in Presidential election if they fail to hear your voice! Back to government of the people, by the people, for the people!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 AM on 10/01/2008
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the US social security is a pay-as-you-go plan, no nest egg, no investments, money in that morning, out that afternoon.
Dependent upon existing employment rates, retirement rates.
In Canada, and other countries, the equivalent of social security is fully-funded as gigantic pension funds of accumulated capital like a well-funded corporate pension plan. It is sequestered from political spending and independently managed.

The US social security system cannot "fail" but is a mess and another huge taxpayer liability should unemployment rise, levies not keep pace with demographics, retirements go up (forced or otherwise) and longevity continue.

but that's another issue....R­ight now, stay out of the stock market

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 AM on 10/01/2008
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