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Is That All There Is? Subjectivity And My Stupid Computer

Posted: 10/10/2011 8:01 am

As I was writing this morning, a storm rolled in and we lost power. I love storms, and, occasionally, the romantic nostalgia evoked of times that did not require electricity. The weather was supposed to hit over the weekend and I was excited, prepared and expectant. It was three days late, and, of course, this morning I was using a desk-top and lost everything on which I was working and so forth: stupid computer. That was slightly annoying, together with how the lights and stove stopped working. In addition, I make such a mess out of kerosene that, fortunately, we got our power back (although I do need a new gas-lamp).

This kind of weather is rare in Los Angeles, and more or less usually welcome. After the initial shock passed together with the somewhat negative consequences of losing power, it was actually quite funny. It took me a few beats to process that I was vacantly typing away on an unresponsive keyboard. Registering that the computer was powerless, however, did not translate to an understanding that the power was out. I got up and started flipping a light switch, in disbelief, as an uncanny Twilight Zone feeling started creeping over me. When I finally processed that we had lost power, generally, I was relieved more than I felt stupid. Something clicked. The transition in my experience of trying to use the keyboard revealed something worth articulating: stupid computer.

There are different ways of experiencing things. I tend to focus more on what I conceive as the difference between things, instead of how the same things can be experienced in different ways. The consequence of this focus is that I tend to think I live in a world composed of things rather than understanding how the distinction between things is primarily informed by a more primordial difference in the way things are experienced. In other words, the recognition heuristic of my confirmation bias is set to distinguish the relationship between objects and this interferes with my recognition of the relationship between different modes of experience -- something a computer can only try to understand despite itself.

I think the most helpful way to articulate this is to call upon Heidegger. In the first part of "Being and Time," Heidegger investigates how there are different ways of dealing with the world. Dasein, human existence, comports itself to the world of available things as being either ready or present-to-hand. The ready-to-hand is the keyboard I am using right now. As I type, the keyboard is not something with which I struggle (appearances to the contrary notwithstanding). I do not always have to think of how the alphabet is configured and positioned before me. The keyboard is transparent and I just type. Conversely, if suddenly the keyboard broke, or if the power went out like this morning, it would get in the way of my typing. The keyboard would cease being transparent and ready-to-hand. It would become obtrusive and conspicuous. The readiness withdraws to reveal the keyboard as present-to-hand. The difference in the experience between things being either ready or present is similar to the ontological difference between Being beings.

The point of this is to remember that there are different ways of experiencing things. Things can develop existentially different meanings according to how they are experienced. To conclude that real meaning does not exist by indicating the breakdown of a particular value system is like claiming that computers are stupid because I do not know how to turn one on, with my car keys. This describes my confusion, not that I am lacking something (which is more than I can say about the second part of Being & Time). I do not want to humor pessimism about the real existence of things in general because solutions to incorrectly stated problems seem trivial at best. Being is (something) even the solipsist cannot deny. As Heidegger says of the burden required by the extreme skeptic:

"The 'scandal of philosophy' is not that this proof has yet to be given, but that such proofs are expected and attempted again and again [...] If Dasein is understood correctly, it defies such proofs, because, in it's Being, it already is what subsequent proofs deem necessary to demonstrate for it." (Being & Time 205, 249)

Just before the above, on the same page, Heidegger explains one of the wrong turns we took, historically, that led to our confusion. He specifically faults Kant, and implicitly condemns Descartes and Plato for promulgating an essentially incorrect interpretation of experience. This does not mean that they are not awesome thinkers, however, it does explain why the first post ended with Parmenides, to hint at pre-Socratic thought. Heidegger says it seems Kant had give-up on the notion of Cartesian dualism, only to presuppose it again. This dualism spawns the skeptic, for which no proof suffices. In light of this, Kant's Critique of Pure Reason is actually even more valiant throughout his transcendental deduction, displaying a practically unsurpassed intellectual rigor that I will return to again in following posts.

The main problem is that subject-object dualism folds into thought and language, engrained with other presupposed irreconcilable differences, like the conceived duality between mind and body. This gives rise to the "hard" problem of consciousness. Nihilism is part and parcel of this hard problem. Attempts to solve the problem usually end in poorly envisaged acrobatic displays, if nothing else serving the concession with increased sales of buttered popcorn. To cut my teeth on something before the next post, however, I find it interesting to consider that the hard problem is so difficult, people cannot even agree on how it should be formulated.

I think finding the problem hard to put into words is a good sign if looking for new solutions. Currently, my taste favors: "Why is there a subjective component to experience?" The question is nonsensical until I stop thinking of subjective experience as something that occurs inside me as opposed existing "out-there", like an object. To help me perform this transition, I might cheat a bit by substituting readiness-to-hand for indicating subjective experience, and things being present-to-hand for representing objective experience, as a breakdown of the former. This way I can articulate a distinction without falling back upon untenable points of view for the description of human experience. I'm just getting started: stupid computer.

 
As I was writing this morning, a storm rolled in and we lost power. I love storms, and, occasionally, the romantic nostalgia evoked of times that did not require electricity. The weather was supposed ...
As I was writing this morning, a storm rolled in and we lost power. I love storms, and, occasionally, the romantic nostalgia evoked of times that did not require electricity. The weather was supposed ...
 
 
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05:57 AM on 11/18/2011
"Subjective versus objective experience." Just another of the "false" distinctions, necessary because we have relied on the distinction, a product of the history of dualism ... and if false, then how to escape it, to begin again, too, with a theory that doesn't posit this difference between mind and body (and to make the physicists happy, too, between the quantum and the gigantic)?
Or ... to breathe through Heidegger's (mistaken) particularity (present-at-hand simply to the subjective perceiver (because all perception must be subjective to that one perceiver, right?), or, also, another subjective perceiver who might also be in the room, and/or to another (this time, non-present) perceiver (the utlimate 'knower')--how many perceivers necessary to make the present-at-hand objective? a majority, or simply more than one: i.e., present at hand to you is present at hand to me = objectively present-at-hand?) o find the universal so much more refreshing than the darkness, the aloneless of the purely subjective. (Much love)
06:08 PM on 10/11/2011
When I got my computer it was the talk of the town. Now most people wouldn't even use it to prop their shed door open.
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03:51 AM on 10/14/2011
mine too. Only the reason I'm not using it as a doorstop is that we're still making payments on it.
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owlafaye
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05:54 PM on 10/11/2011
You might say a sharp knife is present and ready...and a dull knife? Well, it is present. To interact is the subjective side and to observe is the objective side. The subjective side must meet prerequisites for fullfillment...such as the knife must be sharp. So you objectify first...the unknown such as no power to the keyboard or a dull blade become known when you try to interact.

I don't see any problem or great TRUTH here.
10:20 AM on 10/11/2011
“Why is there a subjective component to experience­?â€

If by subjective you mean the experience of "self", then I suggest the book "Self Comes to Mind" by the neurologist Antonio Damasio. It's not necessarily Damasio's conclusion, but I came away with the idea that self and consciousness are almost indivisible. If consciousness is, in fact, created by the brain as an evolved mechanism of the life intention, it must be set in the context of that willful intention. There would be no reason for the brain to create the virtual reality show of what's happening for its own sake without being able to relate it to the body's own evolutionary agenda, hence the self protagonist that it creates in that virtual reality show. As Damasio observes, everything in our experience is value laden; associated with emotional markers that reflect its biological value to the organism; the "I feeling".
09:15 PM on 10/10/2011
“Why is there a subjective component to experience?â€

The question “how do you know†I think would need to first be answered in order to get a handle on the subjective component of the question.
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09:14 PM on 10/10/2011
the folks that think the brain is a computer or compare it to a computer have not yet to figured out the intelligence necessary to program the computer.

that darn cause and effect thing keeps getting in the way of having a nice tidy materialistic theory that explains that everything is nothing more than a giant machine doing its thing.

ie that selfish gene we are just robots here by chance due to that gravity thing just hates the idea of consciousness getting in the way of a tidy theory we can then call facts and teach as truths. :-)
05:24 PM on 10/10/2011
i understand how one might say that subjective experiences are untenable points of view from which to describe human experience, but i'm incredibly interested in how it's possible to base a description of human experience on anything but subjectivity. objectivity must exist independently for someone to make the case that human experience can or ought to be rooted in something other than subjective experience, it must exist as some ideal in terms of which we can describe the whole of human experience, and anyone is welcome to think that way. but i don't see how we can circumvent subjectivity and arrive at such an ideal that shines down on and applies to all of us as particulars. i'm excited about your next post.
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06:48 PM on 10/10/2011
Another error that Kant made is to take for granted the assumption that we know who we are. Since he was most interested in how we know the world around us, he was satisfied to describe subjectivity in terms of an "I" that goes wherever we go.

Edmund Husserl moved us in a different direction. Husserl was Martin Heidegger's philosophical mentor. MH pursued the methodology of hermeneutics. Put simply that means that you announce where you begin as provisional and set out to demonstrate that it is correct. So one argues in circles, coming back to the beginning to question it in terms of what has by now been learned.

Everybody has to start somewhere. In place of the subject-object binary, MH arrives at the concept of being-in-the-world. Our self-understanding necessarily depends on the recognition that we always already are in a relationship to a world (of ideas or, as Merleau-Ponty says, of meanings). That avoids some of the pitfalls of the subject-object duality.

I, too, look forward to more posts from this author.
09:15 PM on 10/10/2011
heidegger and husserl are on the lifetime reading list. i do think kant's points about phenomena and noumena are important relative to subjective experience, though. we're all stuck in our heads and confined to experiencing our world as phenomena. if we had senses like a shark, then our world might appear drastically different to us. even in different frames of mind the world can seem different. i enjoy the occasional drink. i've thought and done things on friday nights that i shook my head at on saturday afternoons, but i think i was the same person holding those two contradicting views despite my differing subjective states. i think my dislike for plato and my love for the existentialists might have doomed me to having this sort of view. thanks for the thoughtful comment.
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04:11 PM on 10/10/2011
"Attempts to solve the problem usually end in poorly envisaged acrobatic displays, if nothing else serving the concession with increased sales of buttered popcorn."

Don't let your English teacher see this one. Just by way of suggesting you should really get an editor. Oh, and don't forget Crtl+S.
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03:16 PM on 10/10/2011
"Heidegger says it seems Kant had give-up on the notion of Cartesian dualism, only to presuppose it again. This dualism spawns the skeptic, for which no proof suffices. In light of this, Kant's Critique of Pure Reason is actually even more valiant throughout his transcendental deduction, displaying a practically unsurpassed intellectual rigor that I will return to again in following posts."

You can talk like this all day and get nothing done. Nobody cares about these mental meanderings. You live in a bubble of esoteric thought and at the end the day all you do is exhaust yourself about things that have no importance.

To paraphrase what DeeDee once said : "You toil away looking for answers to questions nobody asked."
05:33 PM on 10/10/2011
i care about these mental meanderings, and lots of people have for centuries. two people came up with calculus independently and pretty much simultaneously. one discovered gravity. the other was just some silly philosopher.
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09:31 AM on 10/11/2011
What? Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz was a noted mathematician. He invented the Leibniz wheel, used in one of the early computers.
Or are you talking about someone else?
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owlafaye
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06:02 PM on 10/11/2011
Fanned...the pot has been stirred often...if you don't remove it from the stove, eventually it will burn the contents.

I don't see any conclusion in the article but rather a thin sliced, obscure question.
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03:16 PM on 10/10/2011
"Stupid computer" you say? Try clicking "Save" once in a while.
03:58 PM on 10/10/2011
I must be stupider than the computer. Yours is the only remark that seems intelligible to me, either in the article or in the comments.
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03:12 PM on 10/10/2011
I find this thread interesting but I would disagree with the statement the map is not the territory especially when you move it into astronmy geography and how periods of various kinds and Semi Major Axis and perigee and apogee points and incline planes and planes of Ecliptic intersections are discussed and reacted to. This is a body conversation see how much new vocabulary I had to add to clear up a point for myself. If we were willing to force others to learn these to agree with our passions I think that would be a good thing.
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05:00 PM on 10/10/2011
Maps (especially mathematical ones) sure help when you want to get somewhere, particularly if it is for a photo of galaxies colliding in distant space. One can speak metaphorically of increased self-understanding as "getting somewhere, but it's a *going* without motion, a privation. That cannot be mapped mathematically. So long as we require maps, the most important experiences are overlooked. In a more related instance, Heidegger wrote,

"[T]he state of rest is not a mere negation of motion but its privation, that is, it is a kind of motion. Otherwise, no new motion could ever originate from rest. The number 5, which cannot move, cannot also be something at rest. It took Greek thinkers two hundred years to discover the idea of privation. Only Plato discovered this negation as privation and discussed it in his dialogue The Sophist. This happened in connection with the insight that not every instance of nonbeing simply means not existing but rather that there is nonbeing which, in a certain sense, is. The shadow is such a nonbeing in the sense of privation because it is a lack of brightness." –Heidegger THE ZOLLIKON SEMINARS, p. 47
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01:28 PM on 10/10/2011
Fascinating read but one with which i disagree with overall. A few points:

-Although some skeptics consider 'no proof to ever be enough', more rationalists do accept proof, consider the matter more or less closed and move on.

-The 'ready' vs 'present-to-hand' bit is absolute nonsense. Our ability to recognize, process, function with, relate to and view various objects and concepts (both physical and not), is not slotted into one category or another. The brain doesn't work that way. Everything is a giant shade of gray. It's an evolving and overlapping shade of gray too. Your ease with the keyboard is merely a product of your motor cortex, cerebellum and other parts of your brain creating strong synaptic connections, through repeated use, in describing the function of keyboard operation. The confusion experienced when the power goes out is merely a result of the expected outcome of using the keyboard not corresponding to the actual reality of the blackout. This presents an unexpected situation to which you must adapt to. In reality, we must adapt to unexpected situations hundreds of times per day and your keyboard scenario is in no way special nor different.

(continued in my reply)
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01:33 PM on 10/10/2011
-You can definitely experience things in different ways, that's true, but it isn't philosophical or magical in nature. It's really quite rational and scientific. Your experience only varies because your body and brain are in different states. Varying levels of neurochemicals and hormones in your system will result in wildly varying perceptions. If I watch a show while high on caffeine my experience will vary greatly. There are other factors at play, but ultimately the point is that meaning is subjective, variable and even quite trivial in many cases.

Conclusion, in a nutshell: experiences vary as a direct result of what's going on in the organism, synaptically/chemically in the brain, and otherwise. It just doesn't mean anything more than that. Subjectivity exists, but it's basically: the input stimuli-->your brain+current system state-->output perception. Don't get me wrong, we can and should appreciate these differences and the processes that lead to them, but there's nothing more going on here.
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03:03 PM on 10/10/2011
I went to the Handbook of Chemistry and Physics to find the altruism chemical. Couldn't find it.
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05:31 PM on 10/10/2011
" some divine voodoo mumbo jumbo attributed by some fantasy character or supernatural deity." "There is no brain box and the brain isn't trapped." I didn't say the brain is a box or that it is trapped. I said that you are trapped in the paradigm box of the brain being the dictator of our perceptions and experiences. The brain stores my perceptions and experiences (at least until I write them down or express them as science or art) and helps me interpret them based on previous experiences but it does not dictate the experiences. Then when challenged you always bring up the straw man of some supernatural deity or fantasy character. I submit that brain scientists will not ever explain consciousness if they look only inside the brain. As a geologist it reminds me of the paradigm trap geology was in for about 100 years that made it very difficult to accept continental drift and plate tectonics.
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01:03 PM on 10/10/2011
I look forward to a world in which more children really struggle with those tests for "Which Item Does Not Belong In The Group."
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11:12 AM on 10/10/2011
Another example This comes out of computing. Expect an Expecting variable is not looking for a correct answer. Many times Programmers will call the Expecting variable Ans; They don't mean a correct number; What they do mean is a number that counts. or a number that from a pre-ordered list is moving through. But ans very often used is not correct has nothing to do with correctness. This is confusing for newbies. It caught up to the error in my brain finally and I understand it. See that is my Rapture experience. Return has it's own suspect way of doing things to. same with Functional Null. None of these creative and useful ideas are ever brought into Bible study although the Bible authors noticed them. God doesn't know things. But certain notices would be important to God and that I can contemplate. Not these ity bitty words with an enormous range of meanings where contempt is the only honor thinkers receive from pastors, priests and rabbis
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11:05 AM on 10/10/2011
Law and rules actually are progressive stitches. I sat through so much pastor hatefulness of rules and disdainment for laws except their leagelism that it wasn't until I got in college and had to to sand away that whole distortion of Pastor Ick. to understand that laws and rules actually are the armature on which verbs pin themselves. It's like the conversation between Heaven(nouns) and hell(verbs) which is better? both are necessary. See stuff is explainable now. It's a choosing to be ignorant.