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What Is James Van Praagh Hiding From?

Posted: 10/10/11 10:00 AM ET

The James Randi Educational Foundation (JREF) is a non-profit organization dedicated to providing reliable information about paranormal claims, and helping members of the public protect themselves against 'psychic' and pseudo-scientific scams. JREF's founder James Randi is the world-famous conjuror and escape artist who exposed a number of so-called 'psychics' and faith-healers who were using simple magic tricks to convince others they had supernatural abilities, bilking their followers out of money and otherwise inspiring harmful belief.

Most magicians make an honest living from their performances, because their audiences know that what they're watching is an illusion. The James Randi Educational Foundation decries when dishonest people use the same tricks to lie to people, pretending they can talk to people's deceased loved-ones, or promising to heal people with the power of a god. That's why James Randi retired from magic and is devoting the rest of his career to preventing these charlatans from swindling people and endangering their health.

At the JREF, we've never seen a self-described 'psychic' who could demonstrate an observable 'psychic' power without cheating. And we've seen a lot of people who claim to be psychics -- for more than a decade, we've offered a $1 million challenge to anyone who can demonstrate real psychic powers under fair, mutually-agreed-upon conditions. Those who have taken our tests have performed no better than would be expected from random guessing.

For the most part, the people who've accepted our challenge have genuinely believed they have psychic abilities, and most have been shocked that the abilities they thought they had didn't help them. On the other hand, there are prominent 'psychics' who make big money from their performances, yet seem to be very afraid to demonstrate their abilities under fair conditions that prevent cheating. We challenged celebrity medium James Van Praagh in August, putting our million dollars on the line and asking him if he'll to agree to a fair test. So far, he's refused to answer.

Today, we sent Mr. Van Praagh the letter below.

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Mr. James Van Praagh:

I'm sure you received my letter of Sept. 9 encouraging you to accept the James Randi Educational Foundation's Million Dollar Challenge by agreeing to demonstrate your claimed psychic powers in a fair, mutually-agreed-upon test, under conditions that would prevent cheating. The certified letter was confirmed to have been picked up from your local post office.

We also sent the letter to you via email. During the week prior to that, our challenge to you was covered by ABC News and Time.com. AOL News reached out to you for an answer, but you didn't reply to them either. All this time, you have refused to give an honest answer to the question of whether or not you'll accept our challenge.

It seems odd that you won't return our messages. After all, if you can really do what you claim, we're offering you one million dollars and a chance to prove wrong everyone who doubts you, including those of us at the James Randi Educational Foundation. If your 'psychic powers' are real, hiding from our offer makes as much sense as throwing away a winning lottery ticket.

So, we can only guess at why you haven't answered.

Perhaps it's because what you do is not "psychic" at all, but a stale and repetitive performance of cold-reading techniques, in which you throw out vague guesses and then repeat back to your audience things they've already told you or things that are simply obvious, all while claiming their dead relatives are speaking to you.

Perhaps it's because your well-worn tricks actually fall flat quite often, such as when you had a spectacular failure on the Australian Channel Ten program The Circle.

Perhaps it's because you were just exposed on ABC's Primetime Nightline for stuffing your reading of an ABC correspondent with personal facts that were publicly available with a simple internet search, but which you claimed were revealed to you by spirits.

Perhaps it's because you have given so many people bad information that you were even called out by Barbara Walters on The View for falsely warning her that she had a serious health problem.

Or perhaps you have nothing to fear, and you have just been too busy to collect our million dollars.

Will you accept our challenge? We hope you will make the time to give us, and the media, your answer.

D.J. Grothe
President
James Randi Educational Foundation

 

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12:33 AM on 10/26/2011
This guy is a funny, fake. If I was The Death" I will knock on his door and said "Can you guess who is coming for you"
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03:22 PM on 10/25/2011
haaaaay did that notice come from Publishers Clearing house? i got that in the email yesterday.
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pittelli
07:33 PM on 10/24/2011
I hadn’t noticed this HuffPost piece by Ullman before my previous comments and it makes my point better than I did:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dana-ullman/disinformation-homeopathy_b_969627.html
He notes the same scam I pointed out with the fake JREF “Million Dollar Challenge”:
“As for Randi's $1 million "prize," one can and should look at the rules for this award that specifically give the James Randi Educational Fund (JREF) a clever way to avoid paying anything. Rule No. 4 asserts, "At any time prior to the Formal Test, the JREF reserves the right to re-negotiate the protocol if issues are discovered that would prevent a fair and unbiased test".
He also points out how James Randi (who is also a climate change denier), undermined a previous challenge attempt. Again, James Randi is a second rate magician, who latched onto this bogus challenge to give himself a career. Sorry to burst your bubble.
02:23 PM on 10/25/2011
Just so we're clear, you think the challenge should be designed so that, if they *do* discover a flaw in the protocol after the agreement is made, but before the test is carried out, that they should be forced to go through with the test anyway, knowing that they're likely going to wind up giving the prize away to a charlatan?

The rule does NOT say that they can dictate new terms at their whim. It says that IF they should discover new information that renders the testing protocol invalid (either unfair, or allowing the possibility of cheating), then they reserve the right to RENEGOTIATE the protocol to plug that particular hole. That's not just reasonable, it would be downright irresponsible NOT to have that clause. Surely, you can see that?

The "unfair" part, by the way, goes both ways -- the applicant, if he truly wants to prove that his powers are genuine, should be equally insistent that the protocol be as tight as possible. It would be a hollow victory to come away saying, "Sure, I won, but anyone else could have too, if they exploited this loophole."
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pittelli
01:24 AM on 10/26/2011
Are you actually serious? Did you read the link? If it looks like they might lose the challenge, they can change the experiment. "Renegotiate" is a meaningless term used to make it sound like something else. Negotiations aren't unilateral. If they get worried that someone might pass the test, then they can DEMAND any change they want and if you don't accept, you've wasted your time and money and they boast that you've failed their "challenge". This isn't just theoretical. They've already done it. Even if you actually were to pass a "preliminary" test, they still can say that the protocol was flawed and redesign the test. They have so many failsafes to prevent there ever being an actual winner. Again, whether or not you believe that psychic powers exist or can or cannot be proven has nothing to do with the fact that JREF's challenge is nothing but a cheap ploy. I think it would be great to have more scientific research in this area, but JREF's carnival impedes it, in my opinion.
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Bob Metcalfe
Caught at 1st. slip trying to cut
05:26 PM on 10/19/2011
Of course he doesn't want to accept. A million is probably chump change compared to what he makes from decieving the gullible :-).
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straightuptalker
What ever happened to common sense?
07:07 AM on 10/19/2011
I believe in the paranormal, but not until I saw the evidence of the "unexplained" in photos, accidentally and unexpected, most of which were captured with outdoor motion-activated cameras over which I have no control. I do not believe in celebrity psychics like Van Praagh or Sylvia Browne, whom are no less than charlatans preying on desperate people. My one and only experience with an local, unknown "psychic" was earth-shattering to say the least. However, the young woman was not anxious to have her powers known, and her husband was clearly not a fan, so her "gift" was more or less kept secret. So, in a crowded and noisey VFW, unbeknownst to other patrons, she told me things that no one could have known otherwise regarding the spirit of a loved one that passed too young, too shocking, too unexpected, and very much still mourned, and she only needed to grasp my hand.
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Chikkipop
Emergency Cancellation Archimedes
03:11 PM on 10/19/2011
Can we see the photos?

Do you really think unknown psychics are more legit than the celebs?
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ZenSufi
Sisters and Brothers of America!
09:19 AM on 11/17/2011
"Those who know it do not speak about it.

Those who speak about it do not know it."

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06:45 PM on 10/16/2011
Its sad that these people waste so much time and money on this, don't they have anything better to do with there lives , I am not a religious freak , but I believe that there is something out there, some kind of higher power , any true genuine psychic has no need to prove anything to anybody, because people are going to believe whatever they choose to believe or not to believe in regardless of whether its proven or not so I don't really see the point, I agree that there are lots of frauds out there, but most of them are in the public eye , people know about them , real psychics have no need to be famous , or to have there own reality show, James Randi might say well prove it then , but I say disprove it , give me one honest reason to not believe in paranormal phenomena other than your own twisted cynical view, until then, until you can prove without a reasonable doubt that the paranormal is not real than shut your hole because no one cares about you or your stupid challenge.
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intactive
04:12 AM on 10/20/2011
"I say disprove it , give me one honest reason to not believe in paranormal phenomena other than your own twisted cynical view"

Quite simply, because extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence. What we have is very extraordinary claims with very shonky evidence indeed.

"twisted, cynical"? Skeptics, including me and, I'm sure, Randi, would just love it if there were real paranormal powers that could be demonstrated under reasonable conditions. It would be great if we could talk to the dead, see into the future and so on. Once they were demonstrated, we could refine them, find out how to make them reliable, amplify and concentrate them and understand them. That would make sorting the real ones from the frauds much easier, which you have to admit lover89, would be of immense benefit to everyone, and detrimental only to frauds.
11:11 AM on 10/20/2011
And lover89... Please don't confuse "cynical" with "skeptical"
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if it wasn't always the same, it'd be different
02:01 PM on 10/14/2011
no need for all that! anyone can do it.......
http://blog.coldreadingtechniques.com/
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Grasse7
yes I said yes I will Yes
11:42 PM on 10/13/2011
I find it fascinating the extent to which Randi's defenders will go to rationalize the spurious methods used by JREF to "test" those with alleged psychic powers. Gotta agree with pittelli when he says "They will do whatever it takes to make sure no one can ever win their challenge. Their very survival and income depends on this."
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girlgoneriled
01:07 AM on 10/14/2011
Um. Actually, no. The claimants agree to test protocols in advance.

As for "income"--The money has been set aside. JREF would do just fine if somebody came along and actually managed to prove they had paranormal powers. That would be pretty cool, actually.

Betcha a million bucks that won't happen, though.

On the other hand, you've got to ask, what would it do to van Praagh's income if he accepted the challenge and failed?

Nice try there, Grasse7. But not convincing.
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pittelli
01:27 AM on 10/14/2011
No, the test protocols aren't agreed upon until AFTER the person accepts the challenge and then must be agreed upon by both parties. Check the website and see for yourself. I have been watching this organization for many years. You should have seen the pathetic letters they sent out begging subscribers for money after they were caught lying and defaming Gauquelin (I was a subscriber at the time to Skeptical Inquirer). It was as bad as any religious organization.
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pittelli
02:00 PM on 10/13/2011
It is funny and ironic to see so many "believers" in JREF, as if this organization is beyond reproach, despite their history of altering facts. Their "challenge" is nothing more than a cheap ploy invented by a second-rate magician. Let's try one more time: If JREF really wanted to provide a real challenge for Van Praagh, then they can "mutually agree" on a test IN ADVANCE of Van Praagh (or any other claimed psychic) accepting the challenge. Surely, you have no basis for disagreeing with that statement, correct? You wouldn't want to accept a challenge if you didn't know the ground rules in advance, would you? If you were making a legitimate challenge, surely you agree that it is fair to tell the person you are challenging what your challenge is before making it, correct? And "those are the rules that JREF has created" is not a valid argument. Explain why it wouldn't be fair for a person you are claiming is a fake and for whom you want to give a challenge, to know what that challenge is in advance, rather than trying to get them to accept a challenge and work out the rules later? JREF's challenge is fake. They will do whatever it takes to make sure no one can ever win their challenge. Their very survival and income depends on this.
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girlgoneriled
01:10 AM on 10/14/2011
That is exactly what they do, pitelli. Test protocols are agreed upon by both JREF and the claimant in advance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Randi_Educational_Foundation

Next time, try learning something about the subject before you comment.
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pittelli
12:21 AM on 10/20/2011
After the challenge is already accepted... I know plenty about the subject. The secret challenge to be decided by your good friends at JREF. Who wouldn't trust them after reading the piece by Grothe above? Obviously, a very fair and good-hearted guy who wants Van Praagh to succeed.
08:44 PM on 10/12/2011
Gather 10 random people in a room, taking one in at a time to the psychic. The psychic does a reading on each individual. Then at the end, have each individual find the reading that corresponds to their life. If the reading is accurate and specific (which is what any paying individual should expect), each individual should have no problem finding their reading.
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pittelli
10:06 PM on 10/12/2011
Brandon,
That's actually not too bad. It does rely on the 10 people picking their reading subjectively, so that introduces a certain amount of bias (a skeptic planted amongst them, for example, could deliberately pick the wrong reading). In Van Praagh's case, he is allegedly talking with deceased relatives and friends of each individual and it could be anyone of a number of people that he communicates with. Probably something more objective, regarding people's names. If each person he did a reading for listed the names of their primary relatives or loved ones and he is able to get a matching name in most of the cases, for example. In the end, though, DJ Grothe and company will never propose such a test up front. That messes up their whole game of pretend million dollar challenge. That is my point.
12:03 AM on 10/13/2011
First of all, how can a skeptic be strategically "planted" among the 10 if the participants are *randomly* selected? Let's forget about the JREF. Say I want to perform this experiment to understand the results. Now there's no million dollars involved or your perceived malicious intent associated with the JREF.

At any rate, there is a simple way to fix your problem. The participants in the experiment don't know all of the details of the experiment, or they are intentionally mislead in a way that does not tamper with the results.

You're specifying a number of unique conditions (providing names of participants, only talking to dead relatives, etc). This is why a common ground needs to be communicated between purported psychic and those designing the experiments. As someone has mentioned, the psychic needs to define their ability and what they believe they are capable of. The psychic also needs to be very specific about the nature of "psychic communication" and any limitations that may come with it. It's necessary to gather this information so that an experiment *can* be determined.

You're severely misunderstanding the JREF. An experiment, conditions, etc need to be specified and agreed upon by both parties. It's not up to the JREF to interpret and guess at what ability each individual claims they have that takes on the prize. It's not just for legal protection, but it's important to understand the parameters defined by the participant to actually design an effective experiment.
12:04 AM on 10/13/2011
I suspect defining conditions is the hardest part for purported psychics, since what they do truly appears to be enshrouded in nonspecific searching (or cold reading). Tell me, why does a "psychic" even have to ask their audience so many questions? James Randi pointed out that Praagh asked 260 questions in an hour in a televised event. That's unbelievable and can easily be rationalized by pursuing the questions that hit, ignoring the many many questions that failed to stick.
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pittelli
08:01 PM on 10/12/2011
D.J. Grothe,
It has been 2 days since I left my comment challenging you to actually name the specific challenge that you would accept as proof of Mr. Van Praagh's psychic abilities. You have yet to respond. Is that because your so-called 1 million dollar challenge is a fraud? Is that because you have no interest in the truth, as evidenced by the Gauquelin Affair? http://www.orgonelab.org/csicop.htm
Your well-worn tricks have grown tiresome, Mr. Grothe. Put up or shut up. Name your challenge publicly or admit the whole thing is another JREF and CSICOP ruse to drum up some badly needed publicity and cash? What exactly are you paid to be "President" of this "non-profit" organization? How much money does your organization take in each year from your gullible followers who send in donations believing you are a legitimate organization?
12:52 AM on 10/13/2011
The challenge has already been stated publicly. The details are on the JREF website, and have been for years. In a nutshell, the challenge is "Do what you claim you can do, under properly observed conditions that preclude cheating, and you will receive one million dollars". But it sounds like you are asking for the exact details of the test protocol, and there is a significant problem with that. Namely, the test protocol *cannot exist* until Van Praagh starts the proceedings.

Again, if you took the time to familiarize yourself with the details of the challenge, you would know that the exact parameters of the test protocol cannot be developed without the participation of the applicant. Any test devised without that input would obviously be horribly flawed and incapable of properly testing their claim (which, I gather, is what you are waiting to pounce upon with your demand, so you should actually be quite happy that this is the case).

It is Van Praagh making the claim here, not Groethe, and so it is Van Praagh who needs to "put up or shut up". Well, actually he has been doing nothing but shutting up about this, quite conspicuously. Honestly, if he truly has this ability he claims to have, I can't see what the downside is of accepting the challenge, performing his talent, and walking away with their million dollars, plus the biggest and best publicity boost anyone in the psychic industry has ever seen.
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pittelli
01:11 PM on 10/13/2011
Neil,
JREF is making the claim that he is a fake. That is the claim. They then pretend to offer a challenge, but won't say what it is. I am challenging JREF to state what their challenge is. What is the downside for JREF? You are defending JREF, because you don't believe Van Praagh, but that doesn't make their challenge legitimate. All I am saying is put up an actual challenge. Why are supporters of JREF so quick to say that they shouldn't actually state what their challenge is? You defend them like they are a religious organization. Ironic... Don't you have faith in JREF devising an adequate and fair test to expose Van Praagh? I'm calling out JREF. You should be contacting them and asking them to come up with a specific test for Van Praagh to take for their so-called one million dollar challenge instead of defending them while they hide behind a fake challenge.
02:12 PM on 10/14/2011
Pittelli said, "I left my comment challengin­g you to actually name the specific challenge that you would accept as proof of Mr. Van Praagh's psychic abilities"

That's not the way it works. Van Praagh has to specify what he can do ... whether it's read cards, talk to dead people, telekinesis, or dowse for lost items. Then, knowing what his ability is, they decide on the test protocol. In Van Praagh's case, have him get info from the relatives and friends of random people for the study, with no opportunity for the subjects to meet him or his staff, and without knowing the names of the subjects. The subjects will answer yes or no, not give informative answers. The entire performance would be videotaped.

That would preclude the common cheats of chatting up the audience before hand, and fishing for info. He does a great act of "cold reading", but it's just an act.
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pittelli
12:29 AM on 10/20/2011
Everyone knows what Van Praagh says he can do. Your point has nothing to do with JREF specifying the challenge in advance, which is all I'm saying. There is really no reason to defend them other than that you want to believe JREF is sincere, because you don't believe that Van Praagh is legit. Sorry to burst your bubble, but JREF's challenge is as bogus as some of the psychics you dislike.
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pittelli
01:01 AM on 10/11/2011
Mr. Grothe,
I would be more interested in hearing what your specific challenge is, rather than your ad hominem and arrogant attacks on the individual in question. If you have a test that you think is a valid way to prove or disprove Mr. Van Praagh's alleged psychic powers, then I suggest you say what that test acutally is in the piece that you write. Instead, you choose to mock and humiliate an individual who, whether or not he has psychic powers, may be quite sincere in what he is doing. For all we know, the test you propose does not actually test his psychic powers and is designed so that you can't lose your 1 million dollars. Now I'll be like you: Mr. Grothe, are you afraid to reveal what test you are trying to get this person to take? Is this just another cheap James Randi publicity stunt? Are you afraid the test will be exposed as fixed, much like your organization's dishonest attempt to debunk Mr. Gauqlin's astrology study?
04:43 AM on 10/11/2011
As I understand the rules that JREF works by, are that the "pyschic" and the JREF work together to build a test that they both are happy with. This is nothing new, it has always been the way the JREF works, and anyone who has bother to look up the test requirements that the JREF has will find them all on their website. (www.randi.org)
The test can not be fixed, if both parties agree to the method of testing. But the real problem is NONE of you psychics out there have any powers or abilities that you claim, and that is why you all fail to win the $1M prize. Brown, Van Prat and Edwards, all know this, and that is why they never take up the challenge. And lets not mention the outright lying these folks do, on public TV about being willing to take up the challenge, (Claws, how long as it been since you promised to take it, on Larry King Live?)
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pittelli
07:53 PM on 10/11/2011
Not sure why my reply to this hasn't appeared, so I'll try again. Mike De Fleuriot: "The rules that JREF works by..." I think that says it all. Let's recap this challenge:
"Hey Van Praagh, you big fake, why won't you take our challenge so we can prove you are a fake. We won't tell you what the challenge is until you accept it, then if you back out after realizing that we stacked the deck against you, we can still mock you and call you a big fake for backing out." Why anyone would fall for such a ploy is beyond me. JREF will make sure to never give up their so-called million dollars. After the "Gauquelin affair" (sorry for the misspelling in my previous post), it should be obvious that the intent of this organization is not to get to the truth, but to mock and malign anyone who makes claims of psychic powers. I wouldn't have a problem with that, as some of these individuals might even deserve it, but then they try to pass themselves off as truthseekers at the same time.
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firewired
Compared to what?
10:38 PM on 10/10/2011
How does one prove communicating with the dead? By what standards? Seriously.....
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intactive
04:37 AM on 10/20/2011
There are plenty of things I could ask my late parents through a medium that would convince me it really was them. Mediums are oddly reluctant to transmit such questions.

Houdini had a good try, borth pre and post-mortem. His first attempt failed laughably: He addressed the spirit of his mother through a medium in German and "she" replied, "Speak English dear, we speak English now."

"Before Houdini died, he and his wife, Bess, agreed that if Houdini's spirit came back to earth, he would utter "Rosabelle believe" as a secret codeword to prove that it was actually him. This was a phrase from a play that Bess performed in when the couple first met. Bess held yearly séances on Halloween for ten years after Houdini's death, but Houdini's spirit never appeared. " - Wikipedia