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DJ Jaffe

Posted: October 3, 2010 10:14 AM

(Note: This is an update and adoption of a piece that first appeared in October 2009)

This first full week in October is being celebrated as Mental Illness Awareness Week (MIAW). In celebration, well meaning mental health advocacy organizations are busy hosting events to reduce the “stigma” of mental illness.

But I don't believe there is ‘stigma’ to having a mental illness.

I believe serious mental illnesses, like schizophrenia, are real biologically based disorders that are no ones fault. Serious mental illness or ('consuming mental health services') is not, “a mark of shame or discredit”, or “a mark or token of infamy or disgrace”.  There’s no stigma to being mentally ill the same way there is no stigma to being “black”, “gay”, “short”, ”tall”, “lefty”, “righty”, inny, or outy. 

There is discrimination. But that’s another story. And ending it takes other strategies. As J. Rock Johnson, a former head of the National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI) consumer council once said, “the most stigmatizing thing we do is talk about stigma.&rdquo

I think the efforts to reduce stigma are actually harmful because they are accomplished by diverting attention away from those who need our help the most: the most seriously mentally ill.

The anti-stigma campaigns are premised on the belief that the key to reducing ‘stigma’ is to convince the public that “the mentally ill are just like you and me” and  “with proper supports can recover and become productive members of society”. Those two facts are true, if you’re talking about the higher functioning 25 percent of Americans who have a “diagnosable mental disorder”. Or the 50 percent who believe they have a mental health issue. Hey, who doesn’t?

But what about the others? The three percent to five percent of Americans who are the most seriously mentally ill -- like those suffering from untreated schizophrenia or treatment-resistant bipolar disorder, the very people who often need our help the most? And what about the homeless psychotic, eating out of garbage cans, sleeping in cardboard homes, and living with festering wounds under layer after layer of filthy clothes because they have a mental illness than makes them unable to help themselves

Trying to gain sympathy and resources for mental illness, by only displaying the highest functioning individuals, is like trying to end hunger by showing the well-fed. And new research shows it doesn't work. There is no less 'stigma' today than when these efforts started.

Not everyone agrees with me. Some people believe mental illness is a myth. And there are those who believe strongly there is stigma to being mentally ill. The Alternatives 2010 Conference-a meeting of people with experience in the mental health system-who I would think would be the first to believe there is no stigma to being a person with mental illness, had at least eight workshops on stigma.

The Surgeon General also believes there is stigma to having a mental illness. "The Surgeon General's Report on Mental Health" cited stigma as

the most formidable obstacle to future progress in the arena of mental illness and health.

But in later sections, the Surgeon General discusses why stigma exists:

The answer appears to be fear of violence: people with mental illness, especially those with psychoses, are perceived to be more violent than in the past.

It is well documented that only a tiny percentage of mentally ill people engage in violence. But they tend to be the most seriously mentally ill.

As Dr. E. Fuller Torrey wrote

The report notes that in the 1950s, when most seriously mentally ill individuals were hospitalized, only 13 percent of the public associated mental illness with violence, while in the 1990s, 31 percent of the public made this association. It seems clear from the Surgeon General's report, as well as from research studies, that little progress will be made in decreasing stigma until we address the issue of violence. To do so is currently considered politically incorrect by some people, who claim that addressing this issue will cause additional stigma. Yet, if violence is the main cause of the stigma, our failure to address it simply ensures that stigma will continue indefinitely.
So whether one believes that there is stigma to being mentally ill; or discrimination against the mentally ill, the answer remains the same: let's help the most seriously ill.
 
 
 

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11:30 AM on 10/12/2010
I haven't read through all of the comments so I'm not sure if this point has been made before. However, in reading your article I can see where you are coming from and the point you are trying to make. I agree that there is something to be said for that point of view. As a mental health professional, I just have one other aspect that I would like to consider for thought. I have come across many individuals who suffer from depression or anxiety or other sort of "higher functioning" mental illness who have never sought treatment before because they didn't want to be considered "Crazy" by anyone and more importantly themselves. They perceive that all forms of treatment are for "crazy" people not them. Thus they suffer silently not knowing that there are treatment options available to them that can help a great deal. They can get to a point where they are able to function more clearly and with less pain, anxiety, shame etc. They too suffer and are equally deserving and in need of treatment yet they shrink away from it out of stereotypes or stigma or misperceptions. Whatever word we want to assign to it doesn't really matter to me. What does matter is that these people understand that it doesn't define who they are if they seek treatment. For them there is a "stigma" to overcome.

I appreciate that you spark people to enter conversations that keep us all thinking regardless of our position.
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11:29 AM on 10/06/2010
To all: This post is on 'stigma' versus 'discrimination' and whether Mental Illness Awareness Week helps. Can we keep comments on that subject? I promise I will write in detail on Assisted Treatment which I know a lot of people want to discuss. Thank you for all your comments (My HuffPo ratings are soaring).
05:08 AM on 10/06/2010
I want to better understand Mr. Jaffe's argument because as I read it now, I'm gleaning that he is seriously discounting people living with mental illness who don't live on the streets. While I recognize a much better system of public mental health care, mental health care out reach to under served populations and decriminalizing of homeless mentally ill, I don't understand how advocating for these things automatically means discounting the struggles of people living with MDD, Bipolar Disorder, addiction, cyclothymia, eating disorders, and the whatever else you might consider falling into "higher functioning 25 percent of Americans who have a “diagnosable mental disorder.” You seem almost tongue in cheek when using that line, as if you don't believe these people to genuinely have a mental illness because they're not living on the street. So I guess that leads me to believe you're equally as guilty of stigmatizing mental illness as anyone else, because by your logic if its not visible and seriously life impairing its not important. Sounds just like the people who think depression is simply a weakness and if they just "bucked up" so to speak people with MDD would be fine.
10:14 AM on 10/06/2010
There's a certain parallel in the development of mental health advocacy over the last decade to alcoholism from the 1930's when Alcoholic's Anonymous began. Then it was focused on the true inebriates, the homeless skid row bums. There were no people in AA except those who had gone to the very bottom. But this wasn't out of a plan. Bill and Dr. Bob were intimitely familiar with that state and it naturally began from there.

But over the decades the people AA encompassed widened to those who hadn't fallen to the streets, those who still had their jobs and marriages. I've known old timers and read of those gone who say what a difference the program is from its previous years in the type of people now attending.

But its Traditions also recommend that AA groups try to steer clear of dogma, hierarchies and involvement in public issues.
But with mental health advocacy expanding into just these things it begins to take on the characteristics of the very organizations who they decry, medicine, pharmaceutical companies, government. It's the nature of this kind of growth but now you have the form of trough dipping, careerists and marginalization of a sub-group forming all over again. And the professional consumers take over in a very self-serving, self appointed and self centered way. The ones who were the original concern and who truly needed help and advocacy are rarely even mentioned.
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09:01 PM on 10/07/2010
I never thought of the AA parallel. Thanks.
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10:44 AM on 10/06/2010
Thak you for your question. You are correct. You can advocate for whoever you want. And so can I. When people advocate for those who have a mental illness and hurt themselves, hurt others, became violent, were jailed, became homeless, etc. they often feel the wrath of those who say it is 'stigmatizing' or 'sensationalizing' to talk about that. In my mind, MIAW, is when this effort is at it's worst. Only high-functioning and high-performing are shown in the multitude of materials displayed. Thank you for your comment.
04:50 PM on 10/05/2010
I find the idea that the term "stigma" is somehow greatly different from the term "discrimination" to be a result of confusion about definitions of basic words in the English language. And, incidentally, I am one of those people with one of those "severe" mental illnesses. Some of us aren't eating out of garbage cans right now, but that doesn't mean I wasn't homeless in the past. If my doing advocacy (for which I have never been paid anything, and am not sure who on earth gets paid to be a consumer advocate), is somehow not helping people, then perhaps you are unaware of what some of us as advocates actually do with our time. Most recently, I put together a huge resource packet, along with some other "consumers" (lousy word though that is) with phone numbers and addresses of homeless shelters, free health clinics, mental health centers, and other information that we are giving to all the local hospitals' psychiatric wards, so that when they kick people out onto the street after a few days in the hospital, the people might have some idea where the hell to go to survive. I wouldn't have been able to do this, however, without the money from NAMI that is paying to copy all these packets and let us do this work. What has Mr. Jaffe done lately to help a homeless, Schizophrenic person? Also, why is this the only article on Huffpost about Mental Illness Awareness Week since 2009?
05:18 PM on 10/05/2010
For me, having seen some of the events but more important the people involved in those events, for Mental I. Awareness Week, I find such an endeavor to be propaganda-y. What you have done with NAMI's help is a tribute to YOU, not to NAMI. That money is their version of the whitewash, as in 'see what our money has done?' They paid for you to make copies, for crying out loud. Literally pennies. Meanwhile, the bulk of the work, the great majority of it focuses on psychopharmacology. What you have done is not their mission at all. It may have started out that way, but it's morphed into something much more unpalatable. I hope you can continue to provide resources to those that need it.
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05:53 PM on 10/05/2010
First of all. Congrats and thank you for your work. I came up through NAMI and have been involved in similar undertakings. If you read my bio, you can see some of the organizations I've donated my time and energy too.
As to your comment on 'stigma' versus 'discrimination', you might want to read what Otto Wahl, often considered one of the many father's (and mothers) of the Anti-Stigma movement wrote. While he doesn't go all the way into buying my argument, he clearly understands it and perhaps can explain it better than others. Go to http://uhaweb.hartford.edu/owahl/InMyOpinion.html
As for Huffington Post, they have many people who write on mental illness. Go to the "Living" section at the top of page. There are more writing in "Impact" section.
02:35 PM on 10/05/2010
Working to end stigma is not promoting the idea that people with mental illness should be stigmatized. that just doesn't make sense. rather the idea is to address stigmatizing behaviors and beliefs held by the general public about people with mental illness. and stigma can be felt, even by the "people with mental illness who are able to function" and is even more important to work against for those who are too ill and unable to advocate for themselves. i see no answers in mr. jaffe's piece, only aspersions cast on those with family members, friends, etc., with mental illness and who are working on behalf of them to reduce all the negativity out in the world about them
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07:47 PM on 10/05/2010
No aspersions were intended. I cited those who disagree with me, as a way to point people in their direction if they want to learn more. The 'answer' I probably should have cited better, was that we should do more work to fight 'discrimination' than we are doing. I also point you to this, which perhaps explains it better than I could. Thank you for your comment.
http://uhaweb.hartford.edu/owahl/InMyOpinion.html
06:24 AM on 10/05/2010
Mr. Jaffe,

I find your articles a welcome relief from the "professional consumers" and their diatribes that contribute nothing, and so called advocacy that is completely self-serving and ignores the most vulnerable and those truly suffering. It's time to focus on the few percent that truly need our compassion and help and leave the other 15% to their egotistic ramblings.
07:45 AM on 10/05/2010
I'm thinking at the moment of a mother I met several years ago. Her son had died as a result of neuroleptic malignant syndrome. I feel this is a valid issue that needs to be addressed. Mr. Jaffe would have us believe that the mentally ill, schizophrenics in particular, pose a threat to society at large and for that reason, society is both obligated and entitled to protect themselves by forcing people into treatment. What he doesn't address is that the treatment he proposes can kill them. I can't quite fathom his moral reasoning that it is wrong to kill, but it's apparently not wrong to kill a schizophrenic.

There are millions of people out there whose lives are disrupted by these extreme crisis states. There are families who are desperate for help that does not pose substantial risk to their children or themselves. There is a grave need for affordable alternatives to hospitalization and pharmaceutical treatments. There is a need for substance abuse programs, drug withdrawal programs, peer support programs. I don't consider these to be "egotistic ramblings". They are very real needs that need to be addressed.
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08:35 AM on 10/05/2010
Ms. Manning:
Thank you for your comment. You misstate what I believe. Please read the Treatment Advocacy Center Policy on Assisted Outpatient Treatment to see what I do and don't believe. I believe you will find that many of the thoughts you attribute to me are not in keeping with facts. Thank you for your comment.
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06:14 PM on 10/05/2010
Sorry. I also notice your mention of NMS. If you read my HuffPost about NAMI, you will see that I was one of the first to organize against the way Sandoz was marketing Clozaril. It was that marketing which partially enabled NMS to be swept under the rug.
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07:12 PM on 10/05/2010
Thanks.
07:32 PM on 10/05/2010
You're most welcome. I would have preferred that you address my concerns but I'm not surprised that you didn't. Nonetheless, they are my concerns. I have a child who very nearly died as a result of forced treatment. Fortunately, they are doing much better now, for which I am immensely relieved.

I am going to assume that every schizophrenic is someone's child; someone's parent; someone's spouse; someone's sibling; someone's aunt, uncle, grandparent, friend. When we are seeking compassionate and respectful care for ourselves or the people we love, we want them to be helped by that, not harmed. We don't want them to die. This is why I actively promote treatment programs that use minimal or no medication. The surprising thing is, they also produced astonishing rates of recovery -- right in the ballpark of 85%.

This is what we want for those we love. We want them to be healthy, happy, loving, engaged with life. If we can help them do that with no medication or with only minimal medication, we are helping them return to life. Thank you (and the Huffington Post) for the opportunity to speak to the issue.

Enjoy your evening Mr. Jaffe.

~ Namaste
12:47 AM on 10/05/2010
Mr. Jaffe:

I wonder how many of these "seriously mentally ill" you have taken into your home, befriended or come to know well enough to actually be in a position to advocate for them? To advocate for what is another's interest, requires the advocate to actually know what the individual desires, needs, and requires leaving one's own preconceived notions and biases out of the effort entirely.

You and your type of advocacy scare me, it is not representative of my values and does not leave room for me to determine for myself what is in my own best interest. I have experienced psychosis, I have a diagnosis of bipolar disorder that with professional help and support, I quit treating with medication more than 5 years ago. Even more than my fear for myself, you and your brand of advocacy scare this mother, for my son who has experienced the most horrifying of of human rights violations in his 22 years because of the efforts of you, the TAC, and NAMI who have pushed your advocacy agenda down my my son's throat, pushing for legislation to make sure the right to choose whether or not to take harmful treatments, and his human rights are denied; his Constitutional Rights to Due Process are not even part of your agenda for him; so are not protected by the laws passed by your advocacy agenda. For shame, Mr Jaffe!
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08:46 AM on 10/05/2010
Ms. Murphy
Thank you for your comment. Your comment, " his Constitutional Rights to Due Process are not even part of your agenda for him" is incorrect. Please read The Treatment Advocacy Center Model Law on Assisted Treatment at http://www.treatmentadvocacycenter.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=49&Itemid=78 . Specifically I point you to Article 8. Appeals;
Article 9. Safeguards; and Article 16. Patient Bill of Rights.

The law includes extensive due process protections. Many of the people involved in writing the law are consumers and would never support what you say the law does. Neither would I.

Thank you for your comments.
04:50 PM on 10/05/2010
Mr. Jaffe,
I have read your Treatment Advocacy Center Model Law on Assisted Treatment. I have read the entire chapter of the applicable law in my state, they are in fact similar and horrifying to me. I have read the policies and procedures effected to implement the law, that mental health professionals are to adhere to. I am horrified, to be honest with you. I think that in practice, the law is seldom adhered to.

The fact that you believe that the Model Law is complete does not mean that in practice an individual's Constitutional Rights are not violated. I find your attitude strange to say the least. Having written also a Tip Sheet that advocates lying to police, and turning over furniture to facilitate commitment of a person, it should not be surprising that other dishonest tactics are then utilized.

URLs to my reports: if you are interested:

http://involuntarytransformation.blogspot.com/2010/09/in-re.html

http://involuntarytransformation.blogspot.com/2010/09/it-took-one-minute.html

I realize that my responses to your writing seem personal, it is not my intention to offend you; but for me it could not be more personal. It is my intention to speak to what I have experienced and witnessed; as it is far removed from what you seem to think the effect of these laws are. In practice, this process often causes harm and breeds mistrust of professionals both in those treated and family and friends who bear witness.
11:12 PM on 10/04/2010
Stigma
1.
a mark of disgrace or infamy; a stain or reproach, as on one's reputation.
2.
Medicine/Medical .
a.
a mental or physical mark that is characteristic of a defect or disease: the stigmata of leprosy.

Well I guess you must have a different definition for stigma. With that definition I would have to say that having a sever and persistent mental illness would be stigmatizing. I think any time something leads to discrimination the persons reputation is compromised in some way.

It really sounds like you have an axe to grind with the Alternatives conference. I was able to attend the conference the past week. I received an opportunity to go to the conference from my employer. I do not have a mental illness but thought it would be a good way to see what the consumer movement is about. In no way did I get a feeling that people there did not feel that mental illness is not a real thing. Yes, there was a wide array of philosophy as to what is mental illness, and how is recovery best facilitated. Sessions were aimed at how to provide peer support to other consumers who may not be as far along in recovery. I think if you are going to make so many comments on the state of alternatives and the consumer movement, you should do good journalism and go check it out first hand.
11:24 PM on 10/04/2010
Of course he has an axe to grind against of the people he believes are subhuman animals who ought to be rounded up like dogs and forcibly tranquilized like dogs. He hates us, he is one of the top ten people in the world who hate us the most and pose the greatest threat to our freedom.
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08:52 AM on 10/05/2010
King Brown:
I have avoided flagging your posts as abusive as I am required to do when they attack an individual. Could I ask that you limit your posts to the issues addressed in my posts, rather than your opinion of me? Thank you for your consideration. (I would also ask anyone else tempted to flag King Brown posts as abusive, to hold off for now. Thank you)
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08:48 AM on 10/05/2010
My reference to Alternatives was meant to be respectful based on what I heard from comments to my last post. I am sorry you took it otherwise. Thank you for your comments
07:33 PM on 10/04/2010
"like those suffering from untreated schizophrenia or treatment-resistant bipolar disorder, the very people who often need our help the most?"

My level of 'functioning' is not a medical fact Mr Jaffe, nor is anything you say a medical fact. It is down to hard work fighting psychiatry's lies about me, and not taking toxic psychiatric drugs that I owe my 'level of functioning'. I have the 'schizophrenia' label, and I don't take tranquilizer drugs, I don't want or need the violence and violation you label 'help'. You don't speak for us.

"And what about the homeless psychotic, eating out of garbage cans, sleeping in cardboard homes, and living with festering wounds under layer after layer of filthy clothes because they have a mental illness than makes them unable to help themselves? "

Not demonstrating to you the act of helping themselves does not constitute hard evidence of inability to do so. I would move onto the street and into a garbage can tomorrow if it meant I could stop living in terror of coercive psychiatry. Maybe these people have brain damage from the toxic drugs the state placed in their never proven diseased brains. I've experienced states and distress you would label, without a single biological as 'psychotic'. You haven't. Just because you find someone's lifestyle offensive, you have ZERO right to institute horrendous forced drugging laws that will terrorize many other people. I'd rather be homeless than have my brain raped by the state.
05:12 PM on 10/04/2010
"Not everyone agrees with me. Some people believe mental illness is a myth."

That's why you lobby for state force and violence to push your beliefs on those who don't hold your beliefs is it?

Nodoby I've ever met in my life believes extreme states of distress are a myth. They are just a little concerned by the glaring fact psychiatrists do not even examine their patients' biology in deciding who 'is' you say, 'neurobiologically diseased'. You clearly require a much lower threshold of evidence, and you're even willing to forcibly hand of over your neighbor's body to the state against their will on the basis of your nonexistent patient specific evidence of 'neurobiological disease'.

"And there are those who believe strongly there is stigma to being mentally ill."

I absolutely despise the way you cast aspersions on some of the most brave survivors of state sanctioned violence alive in the world today, courage you'd no nothing about since you hide behind lies and disease mongering, violence highlighting, government force and false advocacy.

The Alternatives 2010 Conference-a meeting of people with experience in the mental health system-who I would think would be the first to believe there is no stigma to being a person with mental illness, had at least eight workshops on stigma."
03:14 PM on 10/04/2010
You are a complete joke Jaffe. I'll believe I have a brain disease when you can send me the number of a single psychiatrist in the world examines their patient's brains and proves them to be diseased. You're a violent peddler of hate who hates people with psychiatric labels and you work tirelessly to strip us of our rights. What you don't have, is any evidence I or any of the people you seek to do violence to in the name of your beliefs, has a brain disease.

You admit it right there at the top of your piece when say 'I believe'....

Your beliefs, should be backed by the force of law, we will fight not to have your beliefs imposed on us.
04:27 PM on 10/04/2010
Two typos, just too angry and disgusted at this hurtful, hateful, violence pedaling guy, to type straight, here is what I meant,

Capital letters indicate missing word from typo...

"I'll believe I have a brain disease when you can send me the number of a single psychiatrist in the world THAT examines their patient's brains and proves them to be diseased."

"should be NOT backed by the force of law, we will"
03:13 PM on 10/04/2010
It's bad enough when a single slave tries to free him or herself, but when a slave tries to help other slaves get free, that's even worse. All the masters call that "egregious".

The people who pay Master Jaffe to write about how upset he is believe in slavery, too, but only under certain circumstances; only for certain people.
12:08 PM on 10/04/2010
Mr. Jaffe, like many, errs to employ the term "stigma." It is a prejudice to employ it. If you have doubts about that think Jews, World War II. It loses none of its intent here.

Mr. Jaffe employs the metaphor "the" mentally ill. He errs to do so, think "the" Jews, World War II, or here, "the" Blacks.

Our attitudes are reflected in our grammars, though we may well not want them to be. Our language is often reflex not will.

I recall very vividly our responses to "the" Blacks, Rosa, because of our insistence her skin was a "stigma," was relegated to the back of the bus, concretely and metaphorically. On that day the US Supreme Court ordered it, our prejudice against her, we insisted it was a her "stigma," ended, and she, like the rest of us sat where she chose.


The "stigma" of Jews disappeared long with millions of lives, those fighting to end World War II and those who went up the chimneys. The "stigma" of Blacks disappeared, along with untold lives, once a US Supreme Court commanded us to end it. Other US Supreme Courts had promoted it.

Our prejudices in the area of mental health will end when we are commanded to do so, we have not the will ourselves, nor presently does the US Supreme Court, which itself practices it. For example of that practice, see "Heller," 2008, and "McDonald," 2010.


Harold A. Maio, retired mental health editor.
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11:57 AM on 10/04/2010
This writer is not an "advocate" for the "mentally ill," he is an advocate for persecuting people labelled "mentally ill." He has even gone so far as to recommend that families lie to the police and create fake scenes of violence to convince the them to take a non-violent person into custody.
11:35 AM on 10/04/2010
Ugh. The best way to talk about stigma is to talk about recovery.

This biologically based stuff is nonsense. DJ Jaffe continues his ____

Oh, forget it. For those interested, read the comments section of Jaffe's last entry. It was extremely enlightening.