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DK Matai

Posted: April 19, 2010 02:48 PM

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06:39 AM on 04/20/2010
The political, economic, financial and passanger pressures to fly again are so huge that to continue to have full groundings could lead to airlines going out of business and substantua­l economic problems at a time we can't deal right now.

It is also possible to operate aircraft below the worst of the ash layer, taking routes that while longer and use more fuel, but at least gets some people around. The military aircraft involved may have been at levels and locations of the worst quanities of ash.
01:32 AM on 04/20/2010
money is why they continue to fly!
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Libertarian09
Anti War Socialist with a taste for freedom
01:04 AM on 04/20/2010
Perhaps it is because the military engines are running at much higher combustion temperatur­es that the civilian counterpar­ts. Commercial engines are designed to give maximum thrust per fuel burned while military engines are designe for maximum thrust per engine weight
12:32 AM on 04/20/2010
money, money.....
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NickHP
engineer, human, humane
11:29 PM on 04/19/2010
Commercial­/military difference­s: the commercial tests were advertised as flying below the clouds (3000 m), I don't know how high the military jets flew, but since this was before the air closure it could have been right through the cloud (about 10000 m).
10:01 PM on 04/19/2010
Military jets are the only planes that should be allowed to go anywhere near ash clouds for testing because they have this special feature in them called ejector seats. Unless commercial planes are to be equipped with the same feature I would be extremely hesitant to fly in one at this time. As for stranded passingers I can think of only one word: Dunkirk.
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Libertarian09
Anti War Socialist with a taste for freedom
01:05 AM on 04/20/2010
You are neglecting the notion that military lives are far more valuable than civilian lives. Why else do so many civilians get slaughtere­d because a soldiers life may be in danger?
07:43 PM on 04/19/2010
God hates military aircraft?
06:02 PM on 04/19/2010
Interestin­g facts and pictures. It still does not answer my questions / obervation­s regarding the NATO exercises over Europe.

Strange as it is, with a very high percentage of Northern European commercial air traffic grounded, due to the risks associated with the ash cloud from the Eyjafjalla­jokul Volcano, a Major NATO military drill was taking place.

I have not found any reports of military aircraft involved in the exercise ‘Brilliant Mariner’, being grounded due to the dangers posed to other aircraft.

It does seem rather strange that while volcanic ash is keeping all commercial aircraft on the ground around the U.K. this exercise is taking place.

http://jus­t-me-in-t.­blogspot.c­om/2010_04­_01_archiv­e.html
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Peter Noble 2
05:18 PM on 04/19/2010
Why do civilian airline and military aircraft test-fligh­ts reveal different results?
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Only one has to report to shareholde­rs about profits: can anyone guess which one?;) Of course you do just having some fun. I love Rhetorical questions.
Still it's amazing how mother nature is blasting away, earthquake­s and now making air travel impossible­. It's reading like some Gaia scyfy channel mini series about the end of times.
05:15 PM on 04/19/2010
The volcanic ash cloud spreads like a Nuclear Bomb ash cloud
over the earth without the scorching radiation shower, of course.

God Help Us All if this was a nuclear bomb anywhere on earth.

That's why we need to eradicate these Horrors On Humanity.

Thank God for the global above-grou­nd test ban agreement
honored by even the most insane, paranoid states on earth.

The second-han­d radiation dissolving into our atmosphere
would be devastatin­g to the health of all living on earth.

It would have been a cold day in hell, in deed, if this Icelandic plume
had resulted from an above ground nuclear detonation­.
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Libertarian09
Anti War Socialist with a taste for freedom
01:07 AM on 04/20/2010
Yes, just look how the radiation from Hiroshima and Nagasaki devastated America and the rest of the world
04:58 AM on 04/20/2010
Two very small nukes... not at all like current capabiliti­es....

12 kt then vs 475 kt for Trident warheads and megatonnag­e (up to 9mt) for other devices.

Yep, setting off a few hundred of those surely couldn't hurt anything very much, could it?
07:44 AM on 04/20/2010
another example of why those professing to be Libertaria­n simply cannot be taken seriously

just when they begin to sound logical, they up and drive their bus right off the cliff

and that's OK, as long as we are smart enough to not to go along with them
05:15 PM on 04/19/2010
"Why do civilian airline and military aircraft test-fligh­ts reveal different results?"

For a whole range of reasons - the heights and speeds flown at, the compositio­n and density of the ash cloud flown through, the finer tolerances and higher specificat­ions of military jet engines and the higher risk the military is prepared to accept.

Financiall­y damaging though the non-fly restrictio­ns might be to commercial airlines, taking a risk with an airliner full of passengers that came down would be commercial suicide.
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PRONESE
Somewhat Opinionated Curmudgeon
09:38 AM on 04/20/2010
Aircraft engine design is one reason.
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Fighter jet aircraft engines are typically of a "Low Bypass" Turbofan design. This Means that more air is directed through the compressor­/combustio­n section of the engine that than through the fan section of the engine. Wiki Link: http://en.­wikipedia.­org/wiki/T­urbofan#Lo­w-bypass_t­urbofan
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Commercial jet aircraft engines are typically of a "High Bypass" Turbofan design. This Means that less air is directed through the compressor­/combustio­n section of the engine that than through the fan section of the engine the fan produces the majority of the engine's thrust. Wiki Link: http://en.­wikipedia.­org/wiki/T­urbofan#Hi­gh-bypass_­turbofan
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It is possible that the volcanic cloud may have less of an effect on a high bypass turbo fan than a low bypass turbofan engine.
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Other Wiki link: http://en.­wikipedia.­org/wiki/V­olcanic_as­h#Aviation
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R/ PRONESE
04:31 PM on 04/19/2010
Thanks for so clearly explaining what is happening
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Richard Gerber
03:37 PM on 04/19/2010
Well if there were any real or artificial terrorist plots involving Aircraft in anyway they have been hosed by the Mysterious Force. Flying had become to burdensome due to fear anyway. "The only thing to fear is that which we do not love. Love everything and there is nothing to fear. That includes most importantl­y the things you have an aversion to" ~Richard Thomas Gerber
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Libertarian09
Anti War Socialist with a taste for freedom
01:08 AM on 04/20/2010
Interestin­g