On May 18, 1980, Washington's Mount St. Helens erupted, sending a debris avalanche of more than 3 billion cubic yards into nearby Spirit Lake, wiping...
Here is my theory and suggested solution. It would seem they are not shutting down the oil flow with the best fastest method which would be a detonation to collapse the sea floor, I think it is simple physics. In their desire (greed?) to retain this source of oil they are trying to figure out a way to preserve the investment and value. And this is a mistake because every moment they delay is resulting in the unnatural destruction of the environment and economy. Now there may be something I don't realize and the idea of a detonation could be reviewed by a number of engineers and scientists with more acute knowledge then I have. But I think this might be a viable solution for the good of the whole. Acting in greed always brings one’s own destruction. Thoughts anyone?
Richard_Gerber: Here is my theory and suggested solution. It would seem
Edward Teller and maybe Freeman Dyson might've advocated a nuke solution.
Maybe BP's approach is designed to retain the oil in an easily siphonable manner. To pay for the law suits. SCOTUS may have to re-elevate corporations to the status of "unassailable people", taking Lord Monckton with them.
maxwells: Edward Teller and maybe Freeman Dyson might've advocated a nuke
The real significance of this spill is that peak oil is upon us and we are being forced to drill in more and more inaccessible places where it is impossible to safely extract oil with our technology. The obvious answer is that we must move off of oil and coal as rapidly as possible if we are to survive as a species.
lbsaltzman: The real significance of this spill is that peak oil
This article reflects the gist of the one published by the mi2g Intelligence Unit in London on behalf of the ATCA 5000 which is ahead in time to the US by 5 hours on EST and 8 hours to PST.
LA Times: The problem with the dirty "black gold" oil spill is that it is not a spill: it is an abundant flow, like an underwater oil volcano.
YOU: The problem with the dirty "black gold" oil spill is that it is not a spill: it is an abundant flow, like an underwater oil volcano.
LA Times: A hot column of oil and gas is continuously jetting into freezing dark waters 5,000 feet below
YOU: A hot column of oil and gas is continuously jetting into freezing dark waters 5,000 feet below LA Times: where the pressure nears 2,200 pounds per square inch, making it extremely difficult to send down divers to carry out repairs manually.
YOU: where the pressure nears 2,200 pounds per square inch, making it extremely difficult to send down divers to carry out repairs manually.
LA Times: Experts call it a continuous, round-the-clock calamity, unlike a leaking tanker, which might empty in hours or days.
YOU: Experts are now calling it a continuous, 24/7 round-the-clock calamity. Unlike a leaking oil tanker, this emergency situation's source will not empty itself in hours or days
Westcave: LA Times: The problem with the dirty "black gold" oil
Can you please furnish the hyperlink of the LA Times article so that we can examine this allegation. If so, it would appear that the LA Times have copied our original article published by the mi2g Intelligence Unit in London and we will write to LA Times.
LA TIMES: The problem with the April 20 spill is that it isn't really a spill: It‘s a gush, like an underwater oil volcano. A hot column of oil and gas is spurting into freezing, black waters nearly a mile down, where the pressure nears a ton per inch, impossible for divers to endure. Experts call it a continuous, round-the-clock calamity, unlike a leaking tanker, which might empty in hours or days.
YOU: The problem with the dirty "black gold" oil spill is that it is not a spill: it is an abundant flow, like an underwater oil volcano. A hot column of oil and gas is continuously jetting into freezing dark waters 5,000 feet below, where the pressure nears 2,200 pounds per square inch, making it extremely difficult to send down divers to carry out repairs manually. Experts are now calling it a continuous, 24/7 round-the-clock calamity. Unlike a leaking oil tanker, this emergency situation's source will not empty itself in hours or days.
Westcave: LA TIMES: The problem with the April 20 spill is
Obama's stance is tragically flawed. I think he will be paying a high price for caving to the offshore drilling lobby shortly before this incident. He has not been the leader we thought he would be and that he promised he would be. Instead he has become a place mat president. Better than nothing, but hardly notable or inspiring. I was quite shocked to learn that Obama had agreed to offshore drilling in order to appease conservatives so that he could get his pet project climate bill passed. He simply wanted a feather in his cap for his legacy no matter what the cost. He did the same thing with health care and several other issues. This man is not presidential material. It is too bad. I had supported him and the Democrats in the past but I am walking away from them as they do not have the will or courage to lead us to a better tomorrow. We need real leaders not appeasers.
Indra: Obama's stance is tragically flawed. I think he will be
Although I wavered on offshore drilling when this happened, the NY Times has a good Op-Ed today about drilling that reaffirmed my support for Obama on this. As long as Americans refuse to cut back on oil consumption, it has to be drilled somewhere. As long as it is drilled elsewhere, it is drilled at much greater environmental cost due to lack of regulation in those countries. And as long as the effects of oil drilling are out of sight, out of mind, Americans will be less inclined to curtail oil consumption. Obama I think realizes this- the math of oil drilling here or elsewhere is zero sum with regards to global warming, and he may be able to table some of the right-wing protests when it comes time to make some bracing decisions on fossil fuels.
There is a part of me that hopes that as long as we have a disaster, let it be a big disaster that reaches all the way to Washington and more. A satellite picture of an oil slick covering the Gulf Stream- then perhaps people will see the magnitude of the substance that we are pouring into the atmosphere and view fossil fuel less as an abstraction or a magical substance that comes from gas pumps.
It takes years to decades to recover from an oil spill, but global warming will be mitigated only on geologic time.
chiropter: Although I wavered on offshore drilling when this happened, the
Friends, Romans, and countrymen, we have to start demanding and utilizing clean energy public transportation alternatives, no matter what the upfront cost is to build them. We've designed many of our cities so stupidly that ownership of an individual vehicle is a requirement of residence and employment, and society sees it as God-given right to own a car, when it isn't. Society also looks down on people who don't own cars because of financial concerns, and that needs to end, too. I lived in NYC for years, and the subway is fantastic. For the cost of less than one gallon of gas, you can go anywhere in the city round-trip, with very little environmental impact. The light rail in NJ was awesome, too, and I've ridden convenient and inexpensive trains in Los Angeles, Chicago, Boston, San Fransisco, London and Paris. If we want our planet to have a future, we need to give up some rugged individualism and pool our resources in order to get around.
Fleurdamour: Friends, Romans, and countrymen, we have to start demanding and
There are more. And they are moving toward practical products in several countries.
The science is new and difficult for those trained to think inside the box to grasp.
But, independent labs are increasingly involved and practical applications are en-route.
Fossil fuels threaten to sharply impact life on earth much more quickly than is generally realized.
The first hit will be oil prices, which could exceed $100 per barrel in a matter of months. That can abort economic recovery.
Small amounts of ordinary water can supersede oil by a ratio of 1 barrel of H2O to 200 barrels of oil. A gallon or two might power a hybrid car 1,000 miles.
Global warming could begin to end mammalian life in the arctic within a couple of decades due to melting permafrost releasing methane.
Methane from volcanic eruptions appears to have almost ended life on earth twice in the past - once about 53 million years ago and earlier about 250 million years ago. It took 100,000 years for large animals to reappear.
Time to accelerate the development of breakthrough alternatives as rapidly as is humanly possible!
Overtone: PARADIGM SHIFTING TECHNOLOGIES ARE BEING BORN. Oil will find inexpensive,
Also, good point about BP and 'a pattern of violations'-- I remember reading about the Texas City issue, but then there was the pipeline burst in Alaska which was a major mishap, due to negligence on BP's part..it seems like some vice president in marketing convinced his superiors that they could save money on safety precautions (perhaps not the euphemism they would use) if they just ADVERTISE a lot that they care about the environment and are looking "beyond petroleum"...
chiropter: Also, good point about BP and 'a pattern of violations'--
This is disgraceful. Not to mention that the BP whistleblower has come out and said that BP had no documentation for the underwater piping etc. nor did it have adequate procedures in place to forestall such a disaster.
They should be made to pay. And watch, I guarantee you that not only will we suffer the environmental damage, prices at the pump will go up near $4 a gallon because of this. Any excuse sends the price of fuel skyrocketing.
kd1s: This is disgraceful. Not to mention that the BP whistleblower
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Ala Palin - how 'bout "Grill, baby, Grill"?
Pass that BLACKENED Cajun shrimp.
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Maybe BP's approach is designed to retain the oil in an easily siphonable manner. To pay for the law suits. SCOTUS may have to re-elevate corporatio
This article reflects the gist of the one published by the mi2g Intelligen
See our original: http://www
Best wishes
Roberta
Roberta Gudmund
mi2g Intelligen
YOU: The problem with the dirty "black gold" oil spill is that it is not a spill: it is an abundant flow, like an underwater oil volcano.
LA Times: A hot column of oil and gas is continuous
YOU: A hot column of oil and gas is continuous
YOU: where the pressure nears 2,200 pounds per square inch, making it extremely difficult to send down divers to carry out repairs manually.
LA Times: Experts call it a continuous
YOU: Experts are now calling it a continuous
Can you please furnish the hyperlink of the LA Times article so that we can examine this allegation
See our original: http://www
Best wishes
DK
DK
http://www
Thanks for the reply!
We have checked this and this is not true. You are repeating our briefing back to us!
Best wishes
Roberta Gudmund
mi2g Intelligen
Which paragraphs are these and are you sure they are not on other sources on the wires?
Best wishes
DK
YOU: The problem with the dirty "black gold" oil spill is that it is not a spill: it is an abundant flow, like an underwater oil volcano. A hot column of oil and gas is continuous
There is a part of me that hopes that as long as we have a disaster, let it be a big disaster that reaches all the way to Washington and more. A satellite picture of an oil slick covering the Gulf Stream- then perhaps people will see the magnitude of the substance that we are pouring into the atmosphere and view fossil fuel less as an abstractio
It takes years to decades to recover from an oil spill, but global warming will be mitigated only on geologic time.
Oil will find inexpensiv
See Moving Beyond Oil and Running on Water at; http://www
There are more. And they are moving toward practical products in several countries.
The science is new and difficult for those trained to think inside the box to grasp.
But, independen
Fossil fuels threaten to sharply impact life on earth much more quickly than is generally realized.
The first hit will be oil prices, which could exceed $100 per barrel in a matter of months. That can abort economic recovery.
Small amounts of ordinary water can supersede oil by a ratio of 1 barrel of H2O to 200 barrels of oil. A gallon or two might power a hybrid car 1,000 miles.
Global warming could begin to end mammalian life in the arctic within a couple of decades due to melting permafrost releasing methane.
Methane from volcanic eruptions appears to have almost ended life on earth twice in the past - once about 53 million years ago and earlier about 250 million years ago. It took 100,000 years for large animals to reappear.
Time to accelerate the developmen
They should be made to pay. And watch, I guarantee you that not only will we suffer the environmen