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The Next President: The Best Liar?

Posted: 10/08/2012 1:50 pm

TIME magazine has an interesting set of articles this week asking which of the presidential candidates, if any, "is telling the truth."

First off, what a sad commentary on the state of our politics -- of our country -- that such a question even needs to be asked.

But wait: It gets "better."

One of the articles in TIME discards any pretense of searching for honesty in our presidential candidates by asking, "Who Lies More?"

In TIME's "Who Lies More? Yet Another Contest," we find the results of an analysis of what each campaign claims are the other campaign's worst deceptions. The "verdicts" rendered by TIME on the campaigns' claims include "false," "untrue," "highly misleading," "misleading," "deceptive," "distortion," "speculative" and, lo-and-behold, one "true" verdict, although even this one lonely "true" is a qualified one: "The statement is true, but Obama shouldn't take sole credit for the trend."

There are almost as many shades of not telling the truth as there are shades of gray in that famous book -- not a great testament to our politics and politicians.

TIME's summary of its findings:

Compared with the Obama campaign's, the Romney operation's misstatements are frequently more brazen. But sometimes the most effective lie is the one that is closest to the truth, and Obama's team has often outdone Romney's in the dark art of subtle distortion. On both sides, the dishonesty is "about as bad as I've seen," says veteran journalist Brooks Jackson, director of FactCheck.org.

TIME's Alex Altman adds:

The lying game unfolds on many levels. Campaigns obfuscate, twist the truth and exaggerate. They exploit complexity. Most of all, they look for details -- real or unreal -- that validate our suspicions. There was no Obama "apology tour," but the canard flourished because some voters are wary about his sense of American exceptionalism. If you read the whole paragraph, the President's "You didn't build that" riff seems a lot more reasonable, but context fell victim to a perception that Obama disdains free enterprise. Bain was never the beneficiary of a taxpayer bailout, and yet 75 percent of Americans believe the contrary, partly because Democrats have cast Romney as the kind of plutocrat for whom the rules are rigged.

But back to the "contest."

TIME lists 10 claims made by each campaign, followed by TIME's "Reality" check and finally by its verdict as to the truthfulness of the campaign's claims.

Here are a couple of examples. To make it "fair," I picked instances where the verdict on both was "misleading":


Obama Campaign

"After a decade of decline, this country has created over half a million new manufacturing jobs."

Reality: The U.S. has lost about a million manufacturing jobs since 2009 but regained more than half that number in the comeback

Verdict: Without context, Obama's number is misleading

Romney Campaign

"Romney's plan? Reverse Obama's defense cuts, strengthen our military, create over 700,000 jobs for Florida."

Reality: The cuts are part of a 2011 debt-reduction deal agreed to by the White House and congressional Republicans, including Paul Ryan

Verdict: Blaming Obama alone for the cuts is misleading

I did some tabulating of the "verdicts" for each campaign and came up with the following disappointing results:

Obama Campaign Claims/Romney Campaign Claims

  • False 1 / 3
  • Untrue 3 / 1
  • Untrue and Deceptive 1/0
  • Highly Misleading 0/1
  • Misleading 1/5
  • Distortion 1/0
  • Speculative 1/0
  • "Relies on Gimmicks" 1/0
  • "Qualified True" 1/0

Setting aside the four verdicts that range from "distortion" to "qualified true," we are left with a whopping 16 verdicts (or 80 percent) falling between "misleading" and just plain "false." Not a very flattering statement about the two men running for the highest office in the land.

A large number of articles, analyses and fact-checking pieces have already been published on this issue since the Oct. 3 presidential debate.

However, neither the TIMEs' recent article nor any of the hundreds already published are expected to change many minds because, as TIME's Managing Editor, Richard Stengel, suggests, "Voters see candidates they support as truth tellers; they regard candidates they oppose as shadier."

As for the fact-checkers, the truth squads and the honest pundits trying to catch the liars and their lies, TIME suggests the analogy of the liars usually remaining one step ahead of the cops: "It's like the campaigns are driving 100 miles an hour on a highway with a posted speed limit of 60, but the patrol cars all have flats."

I would add to that their getting away with their lies, inaccuracies and deceptions just seems to embolden these "drivers" to drive even faster, to tell even bigger lies and to be even more in-your-face about it as they approach the finish line. Just witness the arrogant declaration by Neil Newhouse, a Romney pollster, "We're not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact-checkers."

In its cover story, TIME provides an insightful discussion of the reasons why politicians lie and, more important, why voters let them get away with it. It is a very worthwhile read, although in the conclusion TIME does not offer much hope for the truth winning out in the 2012 elections:

But when the final book is written on this campaign, one-sided deception will still have played a central role. As it stands, the very notions of fact and truth are employed in American politics as much to distort as to reveal. And until the voting public demands something else, not just from the politicians they oppose but also from the ones they support, there is little reason to suspect that will change.

I for one demand that the side making the most "false" statements and accusations -- of course that is always the "other side" -- ratchet up the rhetoric at least to the level of "slightly misleading."

It would also be nice if we left Big Bird out of all this.

In all seriousness, however, as long as we the voters continue to see our candidates as "truth tellers," no matter how big or bald-faced their lies are, what incentive do they -- or any politician -- have to tell the truth?

 
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06:12 AM on 10/09/2012
But keep the following in mind. After 4 years of the Obama presidency we have a good handle on what he truly believes on various important issues. Not so for Romney. All we have is his record as governor of Massachusetts (one term) and his promises on the campaign trail which are not reliable and should be relied on.
12:30 AM on 10/09/2012
Hey retired Air Force officer Mr. Dewind. Why should I regard you as more truthful than Romney or Obama. Your article doesn't advance anything of value beyond both sides do it. You haven't held anybody's feet to the fire. This is the first, and the last time I will give any attention to your blog.
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PaulStewart
12:18 AM on 10/09/2012
I will say that Mitt has defined a new form of honesty. It's called Mittonnesty. Yes, with two nn's as in Pinocchio.

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/13017922-its-the-dishonesty-stupid

What is really needed here, right now, to get America out of the mire that Bush built, is a strong mandate for Obama. With tremendous sway if not control of Congress. That's what is needed.

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/13107104-message-to-congress-thats-it-for-you-filibuster
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PaulStewart
12:16 AM on 10/09/2012
You seem to be buying into a sinister argument being made here. That somehow there is a level of morally equivalent lying going on between Barack Obama and Mitt Romney. That in itself is a lie and a trap. The whole notion here is that if the Republicans can achieve a situation where somehow, someway, Obama is seen in the gutter with Mitt, then well, Mitt wins. Why? Do I have to explain it? Its a plain as black and white.
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10:36 PM on 10/08/2012
Dorian -- with a name like that you must e related to the late Adrian de Wind. I knew the great one at Paul Weiss in the sixties and early seventies.

Based on your thoughts here, you must have enjoyed the "Romney Debates Himself videos? Find at Daily Kos Mashup and I think they're also somewhere on these Huff Post pages.
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Dorian de Wind
11:53 AM on 10/09/2012
Roberta,

In the 60s I corresponded with the great Adrian de Wind (and his son) to see if we were related.

If I remember correctly -- and although the de Wind "clan" is relatively small -- I believe that we came to the conclusion that we were not closely related.

Thanks for mentioning.
07:20 PM on 10/08/2012
I do blame the media -- but part of the problem is that our media are privately owned. But regardless, Obama may occassionally stretch the truth, but Romney is a brazen liar -- he can go from black to white in a matter of days. Why won't the media call him out? Why won't he have to explain if he believes that God lives on the planet Kolob? Why are the standards different for him than for Obama?
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jkbc8484
06:13 PM on 10/08/2012
While I do know what I am going to vote for I was saddened by the Time magazine. I believe I have made the right decision for myself, my children and future grandchildren. Many Americans have come to realize that politics is just a game. It is unfortunate but oh so true. I wish we could we back to the old days when politicians told the truth. Those days are gone.

Obama/Biden 2012
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billfrombuckhead
03:46 PM on 10/08/2012
Yeah, like the media has nothing to do with the escalation of lying. To me all these declarations by big media of Romney winning the debate after looking America dead in the eye while lying or changing every position he has is a stinging indictment of what passes for mainstream news.
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Dorian de Wind
07:11 PM on 10/08/2012
You are partially correct, billfrombuckhead. The media do become at times the "megaphone" of the candidate or Party they support. But, as the TIME article also mentions, the voters favor the news sources that tend to confirm their own political views, the "goodness" of their candidates or the "evilness' of the opposition...
03:45 PM on 10/09/2012
I am still lost wondering what was the debate about.Was it about Who can lie best? It is a sad day in America where our children are growing with an understanding that It is OK to lie.Those conservatives who are so close to GOD find nothing wrong with that,making a mockery of the GOD they pray everyday.They claim to be PRO life They are against adultery and so on .They think that in the day of judgement they will be able to twist their tongue and fool GOD or maybe their dream team lawyers will be there to defend them.Guess what their only hope will be that GOD does not really exists and there will be no such judgement.
02:10 PM on 10/08/2012
Meant "BUT wisdom."