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Questions for "Gridlock Grover" Norquist and His Shrinking Flock

Posted: 11/17/11 12:18 PM ET

As the work of the debt-reduction Super-Committee approaches its climax (or anti-climax) next week, the oversized role of tax lobbyist Grover Norquist has dominated the conversation, including this page one story in today's Washington Post, which confirms that a growing, bipartisan collection of Members of Congress is backing away from the Norquist "no-tax" pledge.

There are two themes among the statements by Senators and Representatives who are running from Grover. The first is that the Norquist pledge -- often signed by candidates, now Members, many years ago in the course of a heated political campaign -- is not currently binding. As Representative Rob Andrews (D-NJ) colorfully put it, "I never considered it to be like my marriage vows. I'm married to Camille Andrews, not Grover Norquist." Smart decision.

The second, even more powerful, refrain, is that the oath to the Constitution required of every public official trumps any special interest pledge. Representative Mike Simpson (R-ID) led an effort a couple of weeks back that produced this remarkable letter signed by 100 Members of Congress, including 37 Republicans who had previously signed the Norquist pledge, calling for all options, including increased revenue, to be on the table in the Super-Committee negotiations. In explaining his rejection of the Norquist pledge, Simpson said it plainly: "The only pledge I take anymore is to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic. That's the pledge every member takes when he gets sworn in and that's the pledge you oughtta be concerned about."

Talking about the buyer's remorse building against Norquist and his pledge, Representative Chris Van Hollen (D-MD), who also serves on the Super-Committee, said, "That should be a lesson to all of us. The only pledge should be to the Constitution of the United States."

He's right and this "put the Constitution first" message is gaining steam. That's why today, Constitutional Accountability Center, the public interest law firm I direct, has sent a message to the offices of every Member of Congress who has signed the Norquist pledge to ask those Members two specific questions:

(1) Do you currently feel bound by the anti-tax pledge held and enforced by Grover Norquist's organization, Americans for Tax Reform?

(2) Do you believe that your Oath of Office to support the Constitution trumps Mr. Norquist's pledge and any other special interest pledge?

This morning we also delivered to the Washington, D.C. offices of Americans for Tax Reform more than 13,000 letters from people across America telling Norquist that he should acknowledge that the oath of office Members of Congress swear to the Constitution trumps his pledge.

We hope that every Member of Congress, and Grover Norquist himself, will affirm that the Constitution must always come first. At the very least, the public servants who have signed his pledge need to answer these very simple questions.

There is a lot riding on this. If public officials can't make a simple declaration that the Constitution comes first, then the Republic itself is in serious jeopardy.

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Join thousands of Americans in telling Grover Norquist to knock it off and put the Constitution first, by going to www.gridlockgrover.com today.

 

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As the work of the debt-reduction Super-Committee approaches its climax (or anti-climax) next week, the oversized role of tax lobbyist Grover Norquist has dominated the conversation, including this pa...
As the work of the debt-reduction Super-Committee approaches its climax (or anti-climax) next week, the oversized role of tax lobbyist Grover Norquist has dominated the conversation, including this pa...
 
 
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gevan
the pilgrim has landed
10:27 PM on 11/23/2011
How much of his funding comes from Muslim groups antithetical to United States' interests?
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aprilglaspie
08:43 AM on 11/21/2011
Article III, Section 3, US Constitution, clearly identifies signing Norquist's pledge as an act of treason.
06:55 AM on 11/21/2011
So this is what the Republicans are about, never mind that you should be serving the people who elected you -- instead of some rich lobbyists.

Grover Norquist and people like him are why I'll never vote for a Republican in my life, they're all about money and power and could care less about others.
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Iamrebelriser
iamrebelriser
05:09 PM on 11/19/2011
As I understand the Norquist promise, the Constitution and the oath of office taken by House & Senate members, Norquist has no right whatsoever, to tie the hands of Republicans. Their oath of office canceled their heat of the moment promise to skitso Norquest, and each Republican needs to wave "goodbye" and Good ridance to him, or be put out of office for making false statement at the time they took the oath of office.
09:37 AM on 11/19/2011
Is Grover Norquist the Kim Kardashian of Washington DC beltway lobbyists? He's a legend in his own mind if he thinks he's going to single-handedly thumb-screw republicans into some silly pledge which will eventually sink this country.
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68Namvet
Sioux, French, German, Jew, American mutt
11:54 AM on 11/19/2011
Not really. He already did "single-han­dedly thumb-scre­w republican­s into some silly pledge which will eventually sink this country".

The problem is - republicans absolutely believe in the nonsense they signed and their talking points bear this out. They believe that if we raise taxes on the "jobs creators" they will not create jobs. While the truth the refuse to admit is that with taxes at their lowest levels in 80 years there has been almost zero job creation.

The historical record indicates that marginal income tax rate changes have little impact on job creation or employment.

* During the 1970's, marginal income tax rates were far higher than subsequent periods and the U.S. created 20.6 million net new jobs.
* During the 1980's, marginal income tax rates were lowered and the U.S. created 19.5 million net new jobs.
* During the 1990's, marginal income tax rates rose and the U.S. created 18.1 million net new jobs.
* From 2000-2010, marginal income tax rates were lowered and the U.S. created only 2.2 million net new jobs, with 9.2 million created 2000-2007 and 8.5 million lost from 2007 - 2009 during the recession.
08:07 AM on 11/19/2011
more republican flip flop. what didn't these signers understand about 'never raising taxes'? oh, you mean like never as in never, ever? the s.s. norquist is taking in water and the republican rats can't bail out fast enough.
05:01 PM on 11/18/2011
Grover Norquist should be viewed as a domestic enemy per the oath of office. He blackmails members of Congress by threatening to finance and run opponents in their next primary. That kind of intimidation is unlawful.
graciesgra
retired h.s. teacher from NY
07:29 PM on 11/18/2011
How can one man have so much power?
06:50 AM on 11/21/2011
Not only Norquist is a domestic enemy, but every member of congress who swore an oath to defend the Constitution while they had their "fingers crossed" because of a prior oath to Norquist.
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68Namvet
Sioux, French, German, Jew, American mutt
02:56 PM on 11/18/2011
Like most conservatives, Grover Norquist simply doesn't get it - and doesn't understand history.

From 1930 to 1980, The United States came out of the great depression, enacted Social Security, fought and financed our successful World War II effort, built the Interstate Highway System, enacted Medicare and went to the moon. This was all accomplished within a total national debt of less than $1 trillion.

This was also accomplished with maximum tax rates of between 70% to 94% for the very rich.We were a great nation accomplishing great things! We also had 13 billionaires.

Since 1980, a drastic tax reduction experiment was initiated by the GOP, with maximum income tax rates cut from 70% to 50% to 30%.

The results of this 30 year "experiment" are in, and they are ugly! The national debt has increased to more than $15 trillion, the Bush (the lessor) economic collapse was felt worldwide,
unemployment is above 9% and the recent debt ceiling fiasco was a national embarassment. The only notable U.S. accomplishment since 1980 was the creation of another 400 billionaires.

The cause-and-effect relationship between tax cuts for the very rich and the national debt crisis should be obvious.

And, the debt crisis fix should be equally obvious, unless you are a republican!
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evergreengirl
Stick with the truth
03:01 PM on 11/18/2011
Well said..... f & f
04:54 PM on 11/18/2011
I respectfully disagree with you and thank you for your service. The United States did not come out of the Depression until the 1940's. The 1930's were a decade of Keynesian deficit spending that did nothing to stimulate the economy, alleviate poverty or decrease unemployment. Henry Morgenthau, FDR's Treasury Secretary famously lamented that "they had spent more money than anyone before in history yet had nothing to show for it". In "The Forgotten Man" Shlaes makes, quite convincingly, the argument that all of the plans and schemes tried by FDR and his brain trust actually worsened conditions and prolonged the Depression. The Depression did not end until the warring factions destroyed the manufacturing capability of every nation except for the US. It was during the latter 40's and 50's that we put the Depression behind us and it was private enterprise that did it, not the WPA or TVA. Tax rates were higher but they did not apply to all of the income and there were many more deductions. AT those higher rates, the wealthy actually paid a smaller percentage of the total Federal income tax collections. The cause-and-effect relationship between tax rates and taxes collected has been proven several times over and is best summarized by the Laffer Curve. You might be surprised to know that the Bush tax cuts resulted in larger than expected increases in Fed taxes collected with an even larger percentage paid by the top ten percent (from 64-70% of the total).
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68Namvet
Sioux, French, German, Jew, American mutt
06:57 PM on 11/18/2011
You are welcome for my service and I appreciate your acknowledgement. However, I too must disagree with your assessment of history. The 1930's deficit spending saved millions of jobs and kept the country from a total collapse. It was the republican led austerity programs that stopped the spending leading to a double dip in the depression - just as what occurred in 2009. It was not Private enterprise that brought us out of the depression - it was massive government deficit spending. At the height of WWII we were spending in excess of 120% of GDP - we were busy making planes, tanks, cannons, jeeps, ships and other products of government run war.

Second, even the Treasury Secretary of Ronald Reagan stated that the Laffer curve was "laughable" and did not work - just as the the entire idea of supply side economics did not work. It was the never ending spending of Reagan (increasing the national debt by 189%) that increased the tax base and tax income levels - not "cutting taxes".
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68Namvet
Sioux, French, German, Jew, American mutt
06:58 PM on 11/18/2011
Finally, the bush (the lessor) tax cuts did not result in larger than expected Federal taxes collected. Under Clinton era taxes, payments were being made to pay down the national debt. Under bush (the lessor), tax base payments were increased by borrowing money for war production creating additional tax revenues from employees and businesses while buying war products and giving away money to big oil, big pharma and big agribusiness.. Simply put, Bush (the lessor) borrowed $trillions to pay for an unfunded off the books war that made it look like increased tax revenues since there was no accounting of the money borrowed and spent.
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Bob Wagner
02:55 PM on 11/18/2011
I know one thing for sure. And this is FACT, plain and simple. A politician that stands up, pushes, and VOTES, and continues to support the removal of the tax breaks for corporations, fixing the heinous crime of the tax rate on hedge fund managers, and the raising the taxes on the rich, are going to be considered a candidate to vote for over anyone else that just supporting the horrible ideas of that grover thing. Do the right thing, and don't give these "don't tax my criminal friends" whiners a choice.
05:03 PM on 11/18/2011
It sure is patriotic to want to raise taxes on somebody else, especially when they already pay most of the taxes. Now those hedge fund guys, yeah, they should be taxed at the income tax rates. But if you want to raise rates, include yourself for that boat ride.
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68Namvet
Sioux, French, German, Jew, American mutt
07:24 PM on 11/18/2011
Absolutely, totally agree 100% - raise taxes, your taxes, my taxes, everyone's taxes - back to Clinton era rates.

And next, when it comes to war, a simple rule!

Want to have a war? PAY FOR IT! Raise EVERYONE'S taxes. Have all Americans shoulder the burden! Pass a law that ALL wars must be financed by increased taxes, specifically called a WAR TAX! Include full benefits for returning veterans in all financing! Then, see how quickly we give up fighting unnecessary wars of choice!
02:45 PM on 11/18/2011
Lets be honest the minute they are re-elected they will be right on board again with Grover and his rediclules Tax Pledge. We all must remember that they took their pledge to Grover before taking their pledge to office. Knowing this how could we ever trust them again? To Put Party and Grover over the needs of the country is cruel.
02:38 PM on 11/18/2011
Rep Mike Simpson (R-ID) "The only pledge I take anymore is to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic. That's the pledge every member takes when he gets sworn in and that's the pledge you oughtta be concerned about."

Grown men and women look for a way to stop bullying by Grover Norquist.
02:12 PM on 11/18/2011
The Republicans are counting on citizens not paying attention to the news. They think they can just take our money and power and enjoy themselves with it. We all paid FICA from our pay checks it's insurance,not money they can play with. If you haven't been watching Ohio and Michigan and the way their new Republican govenors have tried to take away the people's rights, you had better look today.
Grover Norquist isn't the only one trying to destroy our democracy.
06:43 PM on 11/20/2011
No, he's not. Today's Memphis Commercial Appeal says: "the Obama administration has aggressively pushed a $433 million plan to buy an experimental smallpox drug, despite uncertainty over whether it is needed or will work. Senior officials have taken unusual steps to secure the contract for ...Siga Technologies, whose controlling shareholder is billionaire Ronald O. Perelman, one of the world's richest men and a longtime Democratic Party donor. When Siga complained that...the Department of Health and Human Services were resisting the company's financial demands, senior officials replaced the government's lead negotiator for the deal...When Siga was in danger of losing its grip on the deal...the officials blocked other firms from competing...The price of approximately $255 per dose is well above what the government's specialists said was reasonable..." Who do you suppose these "senior officials" belong to? The govt already owns enough vaccine, at $3 per dose, to treat the entire US population in case of smallpox, which is "known to exist" only in labs in Russia and the US. Billionaire Dems? Influence peddling? No way! You said it, "They think they can just take our money and power and enjoy themselves with it!"
01:18 PM on 11/18/2011
Who elected Grover? and where does his power come from?

Maybe someone needs to look into the money trail?
01:06 PM on 11/18/2011
Excellent. A group supporting the Constitution. I can't wait for them to support the free and unrestricted practice of religion, the right of all citizens to keep and bear arms and the enumerated powers of the Federal govt.
01:42 AM on 11/19/2011
A great idea.
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vipersdad
01:00 PM on 11/18/2011
did they pinky swear?

The pledge is a transparent political ruse. Nothing more. If politicians think they can generate donations and/or votes by signing a pledge, they'll sign the pledge.

Ultimately the pledge means only as much as the integrity of those who signed it. If they signed it with their fingers crossed behind their backs, then you get what you get.

Norquist is a bully and those who allowed themselves to be bullied are basically wimps. I don't like voting for wimps, and the American voter should look at this when they go to the polls in Nov 2012.
03:36 PM on 11/18/2011
How about the pledge is a political noose?