This analysis should be on the front page of the NYT and reiterated by the (serious?) pundits. This resolution stinks.
The Lieberman-Kyle amendment has just passed the Senate overwhelmingly after two sections were removed to satisfy Democrats that it will not serve as a backdoor authorization for war against Iran, using U.S. forces operating in Iran. Even after that compromise, it remains a poison chalice, because it endorses a set of "findings" that are fundamentally false and which are being used by the administration to lay the groundwork for a more aggressive policy toward Iran .
The amendment is based on the Bush administration's proxy war narrative which has been filling the news media for the past nine months. It cites General Petraeus's classic statement of the proxy war argument of September 12: "[I]t is increasingly apparent...that Iran through the use of the Iranian Republican [sic] Guard Corps Quds Force, seeks to turn the Sh'ia militia extremists into a Hezbollah-like force to serve its interests and fight a proxy war against the Iraqi state and coalition forces in Iraq".
It is not unreasonable to view the proxy war narrative as the equivalent for Iran of the infamous White House Iraq Group's carefully contrived -- and stunningly successful -- fall campaign in 2002 to prepare public opinion to support an invasion of Iraq.
The following six points summarize some -- but certainly not all -- of the evidence contradicting the line on which the poisonous Liberman-Kyl amendment is based.
1. The administration has not come forward with a single piece of concrete evidence to support the claim that the Iranian government has been involved in the training, arming or advising of Iraqi Shiite militias.
o At the February 11, 2007 briefing, officials displayed one EFP and some fragments but did not claim that there was any forensic evidence linking that or any other AFP to Iran.
o One of the briefers admitted that it was only Iraqi smugglers who brought weapons into Iraq, explaining why no direct Iranian involvement could be documented.
o The official briefer who was a specialist on explosives, Maj. Marty Weber, claimed in a later interview that the use of "passive infrared sensors" in the deployment of EFPs in Iraq was "one of the strongest markers of Iranian involvement" in the traffic. But he admitted in the same interview that the electronic components needed to make the sensors found in Iraq were "easily available off the shelf at places like RadioShack.
o Another official who participated in the briefing, Maj. Gen. William B. Caldwell IV, denied that the military was claiming that Iran was behind the traffic in arms to Iraq. He said in a follow-up press briefing on February 14, "What we are saying is that within Iran, that these EFP component parts are being manufactured. Within Iran weapons and munitions are being manufactured that are ending up in Iraq. And we are asking the Iranian government to assist in stopping that from happening. There's no intent to do anything other than that."
o Although one of the official briefers said shipments of EFPs had been intercepted at the border in 2005, only one press report about such a border interceptions has appeared, and there was no indication that such interceptions had produced any evidence of Iranian involvement. On the contrary, it quoted "coalition officials" as saying there was "no evidence to suggest that the government in Tehran is facilitating the smuggling of shape charges into Iraq." Despite that alleged interception, Pentagon spokesman Lawrence DiRita and Brig Gen. Carter Ham, deputy director for regional operations for the Joint Staff, continued to deny any knowledge of official Iranian complicity in EFP or any other arm supplies.
o Despite interrogations since last spring of a top official of an alleged Iraqi EFP network and the Hezbollah operative who was a liaison with the organization, Maj. Gen. Rick Lynch, the U.S. Commander for southern Iraq, where most of the Shiite militias operate, admitted in a July 6 briefing that his troops had not captured "anybody that we can tie to Iran"
o On September 8, the commander for the northern region of Iraq, Maj. Gen. Thomas Turner II, admitted in a press briefing, "I don't think we have any specific proof of Iranians in our area other than reports. We have discovered caches....It has not been a lot. We have seen some evidence of some weapons that were employed against coalition forces that were made in...Iran, where they are coming from across the border, we're not sure."
o Despite the assertion by Gen. David Petraeus on September 12, quoted in the proposed Lieberman-Kyle amendment, that the U.S. military obtained evidence of the complicity of Iranian officials in arming and training Shiite militias from interrogations of the above detainees, it has not produced wither detainee or any transcript of the interrogations. Nor has it released a direct quote from either detainee. No apparent intelligence reason exists for withholding such evidence from Congress and the public.
o Despite Petraeus' assertion in September that the United States obtained "hard evidence" incriminating Iran from computer hard drives seized when the above detainees were captured March 22 , none of the documentation has been made public, nor have any specifics have been provided on what the files show. Earlier both Petraeus and Brig. Gen. Kevin Bergner had discussed the contents of the 22-page memorandum as detailing the planning preparation, approval and conduct of military operations by the Shiite militia organization but without claiming that it showed any Iranian role in any of those activities.
2. The U.S. intelligence community has not endorsed the argument being made by some in the Bush administration that the Iranian government was responsible for the rise in Shiite military activity in Iraq.
o The National Intelligence Estimate, a brief summary of which was released to the public February 2 contradicted the official argument, stating, "Iraq's neighbors influence, and are influenced by, events within Iraq, but the involvement of these outside actors is not likely to be a major driver of violence or the prospects for stability because of the self-sustaining character of Iraq's internal sectarian dynamics."
o Instead of stating clear that Iran had provided weapons or training to Shiite militias, the NIE offered a more ambiguous formula that "Iranian lethal support for select groups of Iraqi Shia militants clearly intensifies the conflict in Iraq." That formula, according to veterans of the NIE process, probably represents a negotiated compromise, indicating that some agencies refused to endorse the claim that Iran was supply weapons to Iraqi Shiites.
3. The main argument made in the February 11, 2007 briefing for an Iranian official role in providing EFPs to Shiite militias -- the allegation that only Iran had the capability to manufacture EFPs or components for EFPs that can penetrate U.S. armor -- was quickly proven to be untrue.
o As early as mid-2005, U.S. military intelligence officials had already concluding that they believe the technology for making such armor-penetrating bombs was "spreading among a variety of insurgent groups," obviously including Sunni insurgents with no ties to Iran or Hezbollah. At least one insurgent cell in Baghdad was already "attempting to make the charges locally."
o Israeli intelligence reported that Hamas guerrillas manufactured high grade EFPs during 2006 which were used in attacks on Israeli Defense Forces in four separate incidents in September and November 2006. The shaped charges penetrated eight inches of steel armor.
o Senior military officials in Baghdad told a reporter days after the February 11 briefing that U.S. forces had been finding an "increasing number of advanced roadside bombs being not just assembled but manufactured in machine shops." One official was quoted as saying that the impact of those Iraqi-machined EFPs on armored vehicles "isn't as clean but they are almost as effective" as the EFPs being imported.
o Journalist Andrew Cockburn reported in February that in November 2006 U.S. troops raiding a Baghdad machine shop had discovered a pile of copper discs "stamped out as part of what was clearly an ongoing order"
o Maj. Marty Weber, the explosives expert who was one of the three briefers in the February 11 briefing, admitted in an interview with The New York Times less than two weeks later that "You can never be certain" that the cooper discs for the EFPs could not be manufactured with the required precision in Iraq.
o U.S. troops found a cache of components, including concave copper discs, for making EFPs in February 2007, in which the PVC tubes of varying widths appeared to have come from the open market, raising the likelihood that the liners were being manufactured locally so that they would be the right size to fit the discs.
o Another bomb-making factory discovered by U.S. troops in late February was reported to have forced U.S. officials to "reassess their belief that such bombs were being built in Iran and smuggled fully assembled into Iraq."
4. U.S. and British Military officers and civilian officials have expressed doubt that EFPs and other armaments in the hands of Shiites have actually come from Iran or that Iranian Quds force personnel have been involved in the supply.
o British Defence Secretary Des Browne said in an interview in August 2006, "I have not seen any evidence -- and I don't think any evidence exists -- of government-supported or instigated armed support on Iran's part in Iraq."
o Lt. Col. David Labouchere, commander of a few hundred British troops which began in late August 2006 to search the Iran-Iraq border for evidence of Iranian supply of weapons to Iraqi Shiites, said in October, "I suspect there's nothing out there. And I intend to prove it."
o "[S]ome military analysts have concluded there is no concrete evidence of...a link" between the Revolutionary Guard Corps and the Shiite militias fighting U.S. troops, according to a Washington Post report published August 20, 2007.
5. The Quds Force of Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, which the administration has claimed is the instrument of the alleged Iranian "proxy war" in Iraq, has apparently been withdrawn from Iraq.
o In the same testimony to the House Armed Services and Foreign Affairs Committees on September 11 in which he stated the proxy war argument, Gen. David Petraeus also said, "[T]he Qods Force itself -- we believe, by [and] large, those individuals have been pulled out of the country, as have the Lebanese Hezbollah trainers that were being used to augment that activity.
6. There is a substantial body of evidence that the Hezbollah in Lebanon -- not Iran -- has been the main source, if not the only source, of EFPs and other weapon used by Shiite militias in 2006 and 2007.
o Hezbollah was using EFPs to attack Israel Defense Forces armored vehicles as early as 1997 and provided EFP expertise to Palestinian militant groups after the start of the Intifada in 2000 (Michael Knights, Jane's Intelligence Review).
o Iraqi and Lebanese officials told a reporter in mid-2005 that Iraqi Shiite fighters had begun in early 2005 "copying Hezbollah's techniques in building roadside bombs and carrying out sophisticated ambushes." Those Hezbollah techniques included "shaped charges" (later renamed explosively formed penetrators by U.S. officials), according to those same officials.
o Hezbollah's CD-Rom instructional videos were captured in Iraq rather than Iran's, according to Michael Knights.
o All of the weapons systems captured in Iraq that are alleged to have been provided by Iran, including EFPs and 240 mm rockets, have been in the Hezbollah arsenal, as indicated by many sources on the weapons used by Hezbollah against Israel.
o One of those weapons systems, the RPG-29, which was used by Shiite militias against an American M-1 tank, is not manufactured by Iran and is known to have been acquired by Hezbollah from Syria rather than from Iran.
o There was reportedly intelligence in 2006 that Iran shipped machine tools to Lebanon that could be used to make EFPs.
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This analysis should be on the front page of the NYT and reiterated by the (serious?) pundits. This resolution stinks.
NO matter how much they make this a no attack iran deal. Bush will use it as an excuse to do whatever the he wants to do. Leiberman and Kyle seem to have forgotten who signs their paycheck. They seem to think they are working for Israel. The Dems vote for stuff like this because most don't really want out of this war and are lying to us, and or too big of a coward to stand up to Bush. I would rather see nothing happen in congress than start another war which is what the Bush bunch wants real bad.
Hillary Clinton should be condemned for voting yes on this amendment. I thought she was smart enough not to be fooled twice by the Bush Administration. The election next year is now shaping up again as being forced to pick the lesser of two evils. This is getting to be very tiresome. And I am also getting sick of Dianne Feinstein in my state voting yet again with the neocons.
It boggles the mind that the Democrats are in agreement on such a stupid non-binding bill to declare Iran's Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization ,
It seems that the whole Senate is trying to ruin this country with their asinine and useless waste of time.
Senator Lieberman is just exactly what the first three letter of his last name are Lie-(r)
liar. He has helped to wreck the so-called majority that the Democrats won in 2006.
I cannot understand why my Party's Senators are so eager to be swindled by the Republicans.
No matter how much they kiss the Republican butts, nothing will help them.
So much for confidence in my Party.
As far as Iran goes, the rhetoric is the same as it was for invading Iraq.
Iran hasn't invaded anyone for many yearsyet Israel invades her neighbors about once a week. Where is the outrage? When the congress is made up of less Jewish representatives, then there will be a more balanced attitude about Israel and her neighbors, thus, less tension and more peaceful negotiations.
A big Amen to Marnia
A personal comment about Joe Blow Leiberman:
"Leiberman" Just think what we would have if you were vice President?
What a disgrace this guy is. I can't call him a man but I can call him a turncoat. He is just the type of guy you want to fight a war with. He is a 100% coward and enemy of the military.
Why? Who knows what side he will be on next time.
In plain English he is a kiss ass.
I remember when he was running for V.P. and every time he would get on the air he would say "Praise The Lord"
What a guy. Really loves Jesus. Well Jesus saw right thru this mouse. I have not heard him Praise The Lord since then.
So to you Joe! You are a two-bit creep and a sell out to the best bidder. My only wish is that I could be in front of you to let you know that you would get as low as to kiss the belly of a snake.
From a REAL American and Vet that served my country for 20 years in combat, and damn proud to be an American, and also to see thru slime as you.
I am so disappointed that Hillary voted to censure move-on.org. Move-on is the best friend that democrats have ever had. I support them financially as well as philosopically. They are helping to change the balance of power in this country. She also voted for this monstrocity by Kyl and Lieberman. You are right about Lieberman. He represents Israel, not America. He should have switched to Republican party long ago. He votes with them most of the time. That is one big mistake that Al Gore made. Senator L. couldf have become president. I shudder at the thought
Hillary has no guts or integrity,she is more hawkish than any Democrat candidate and her vaunted health care plan is just payback forall the insurance lobby money she has collected, so has Edwards and Obama.
Kucinich is the only one with vision and the
integrity to get out us out of this mess. But the corporate owned media are afraid of him so they ignore or ridicule him.
H Clinton is as Zionist-pro-neocon as they come - as Senator for New York, she's become more Zionist than a rabbi in order to get the support she needs to succeed.
It is obvious that oil is behind the US involvement with Iran just as it was the cause for our invasion of Iraq and the execution of Saddam Hussein. We have access to the oil of the other countries in the Middle East which have oil resources. Only Iraq and Iran are countries we don't trust to always deliver the oil to our oil companies.
Some may remember Prime Minister Mossadegh of Iran, who wanted to nationalize Iranian Oil. We got him removed in no time and replaced him with the corrupt Shah of the Palevi family.
That's why the majority of presidential candidates do not propose to immediately get out of Iraq and also would not feel disinclined to get into a war with Iran. That's true for Republicans as well as Democrats. I think American policy calls for an American presence as long as there is oil in the Middle East.
The primary factors in conflict zones are energy, water, and other dominent national or regional resources like copper. That's why real change won't occur until the public insists that we move on to a diversity of clean energy systems and we share a borderless global strategy on the water crises. It's somewhat disheartening to see all the discourse on the validity of global warming, when the real issue is global waring. Funny thing, the solution is the same for both, notwithstanding the factory beef methane issue, which could also evolve into the energy sourcing mix. So let's simplify the rhetoric down to three points: Let's tell our politicians to commit the USA to:
1. Rapidly change to diverse low cost clean energy. Yes lower cost, because the commitment
to large scale distribution and free market innovation will overcome cost resistence brought about by low volume and resistance to change. We need a publically supported mandate.
2. Support a borderless war against fresh water stress, poor sanitation, and water borne disease. This requires # 1 as a pre-requiite.
3. Demand the elinination of lobby money to politicians or their stand-ins.
Yes, this means we have to overcome the shock tactics of the controlled energy market and others. Yes we need a leader who can communicate over the resistance tactics of the status quo, oligarchs, and oligopolies. Do you think that the rising poulation and the emerging and developing nations are going to lower world energy and water demand? Let's support positive action over resistance tactics like war.
If you can't say it, you can't do it!
HERE WE GO AGAIN.......I USED TO HAVE GREAT ADMIRATION FOR LIEBERMANN BUT NO MORE. WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT "GENTLE MANS" MIND? MUST BE THE ONSET OF OLD AGE...ALSHEIMERS?
Its spelled ASSHEIMERS, Foxylady.
Don't be too hard on Lieberman (the one in the Senate, not the one in Israel's Knesset). A person's religious convictions should always take precedence over his or her political affliations (it's the American way).
Every Jew in the world is entitled by Israeli law to citizenship in Israel's theocracy. Every Jew can go to Israel and vote, receive medical care, employment, and all social benefits! (just one big Jewish blanket of love and protection--for Jews)
Palestinians whose families lived in Palestine for centuries cannot return even though, in many cases, they still hold keys to homes in occupied Israel.
After all, God has spoken to the Jews about their sacred Holy Lands (don't mess with God!).
Not only that, most "jews" in Israel aren't even Sephardic. They come from the Ukraine originally.
As usual, the administration will not let real evidence stand in the way of its efforts to start another war. The congress just does not seem to want to do the legwork and ask the hard questions to stop the administration's war machine. Later members of Congress will simply say again they were misled. That will be that, unfortunately.
When will they admit the role of Saudis in Iraq? I guess never. I fear DannyRose is right. This is all about posturing and giving an inch to Bu$h by which he'll take 10 miles at least.
Senator Lieberman for President !
Of Israel.
War is Profit.
How can US corporations survive without crony deals ?
Is the stock market obsolete ?
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