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How to Love A Curmudgeon

Posted: 09/01/10 08:00 AM ET

As a child, I lived next door to a classic curmudgeon. Mrs. Decker was right out of central casting. If Ebeneezer Scrooge ever married, Mrs. Decker could have been his wife. She was a board-certified, crabby old woman. The kids in the neighborhood steered clear of her property, except when she was away. Then they'd throw soda pop bottles and paper plates on her lawn just so they could watch her come out waving her arms, ranting, "You kids stay off my lawn!" She did have a point!

Our houses were about five feet apart and I could hear her yelling inside the house. Clearly, she was angry about much more than those pesky neighborhood children. I would often play detective, crouching below the window to her bedroom, and peek in to see if I could see what went on inside that made her so angry. My sleuthing didn't uncover anything very interesting and I was too young at the time to understand much about adult behavior. No doubt, Mrs. Decker had a lot of unresolved issues.

Maybe the unresolved Mrs. Decker story is what has peaked my interest on the subject. Or maybe it's the realization that everyone has a little streak of Mrs. Decker in them. Only you, like I, have most likely developed some charming personality traits that soften our surliness, and compensate for our crabbiness, allowing us to better suffer those "fools" we do not suffer so gladly, and at the same time, rendering ourselves less obnoxious to others. I'm still working on that one.

Feyangel is a woman after my own heart. Her comment on last week's post:

Me too -- a New Age curmudgeon. I am also totally in love with Loving. People who know me adore that I have both these parts in abundance-- somehow I think it makes the degree to which I am Loving seem more REAL and trustworthy. "Astute perception and sly wit" -- yes -- and I often use that to inspire laughter at the less enjoyable and admirable aspects of the human condition. Sometimes when I am around other "New Age" people-- I feel I should be a bit "ashamed" that I have this part that isn't all about never-ending optimism and virtuous positivity. But to be honest, I think the way I am is extremely genuine -- and kinda charming and delightful -- as those around me often comment to me.

So, how does one get past all the barriers erected by their favorite curmudgeons and make it to the inner chamber of their hearts? Here are six tips, gleaned from readers, plus my own field work and experience. I'm clear the list is incomplete, but it's a start. I'm also clear the curmudgeons among us will not fail to make corrections and additions. That's what we curmudgeons do best!

1. Stay away from the Goo Factory

Feyangel strikes an interesting balance. It's the combination of qualities: The one who is in love with Love and the one who is willing to call it like it is, without sugar-coating the Bee-Jezus out of everything, that I think has the most interesting possibilities. Many readers bemoaned the nauseating experience of being around someone who exhibits a quality I'll call the "Goo Factor." Folks, can we talk about this? If you want to get close to a curmudgeon and you work in the Goo Factory even part-time, you won't make it to first base. Goo is anathema to a curmudgeon.

If you're a Pollyanna type, you walk a fine line between being eternally chirpy and cheerful and crossing the line into goo. Don't, whatever you do, go there. If you do, the curmudgeon will most likely appear to be nice, even semi-tolerant, but you will never enter the inner chamber of a curmudgeon's heart. Even in small quantities, goo is a major turn-off.

Thinkingwomanmillstone's comment illuminated an interesting aspect of a curmudgeon's thought process:

I am the ultimate curmudgeon... I suffer idiocy poorly but only from people who should know better. Curmudgeons have an undeserved reputation for unpleasantness. I think most of my outer circle of friends think of me as a calm, generous friendly person. Little do they know that underneath that volunteer who's willing to cheerfully do what's needed is someone who loves them despite their obvious lack of correct thinking. Of course, my family and close friends know the truth... because I let them know it plainly. So I guess my take on love and the curmudgeon is the further out from my heart you are the nicer I am to you... in fact if I am sickeningly sweet, you can assume I don't like you at all. My family and friends just have to suck it up because in reality there is no one more loyal and dedicated to you than I am. Get over it.

This curmudgeon actually expresses disdain by being "sickeningly sweet!" Doesn't that make you wonder about the effectiveness of the "goo" approach? It calls into question the authenticity of love when it's expressed with an overdose of sweetness. Too much sugar is bad for the body. Too much sweetness is suffocating. Double the suffocation factor for a curmudgeon. Ask me how I know!

2. Be a good listener

To love a curmudgeon, you need to be a good listener because they never had an opinion they didn't share. They'll not hesitate to make your life "interesting" by being brutally honest. Curmudgeons are wordsmiths that do not mince words. If it's on their mind, you're going to hear about it. But here's the good news: curmudgeons are usually right. They have keen insight into how things and people and life works. You can usually take their insights to the bank. Their delivery could use some work, however. But they don't care. Here's why:

3. Cultivate an appreciation for their eccentricities

Curmudgeons are that they are non-conforming and eccentric. They don't care what others think because curmudgeons love things that are out of favor with the general populace. They're contrarians, by nature, or at least that's who they've become. Their preferences in life are not designed to have them entering, much less winning, a popularity contest. Perhaps this is why the Pollyanna types are so difficult for many curmudgeons. Pollyanna is the epitome of conformity. Her whole gig is about being liked by everyone and will never step on anyone's toes with her honesty. Can you see the problem curmudgeons would have with this? They are that they are honest with their opinions, right or wrong. Chirpy and cheerful are dangerously close to goo, so apply lightly, if at all.

4. Love is best expressed through actions, not words

Igrigory wrote;

I am not cynical, I am not angry, I am straightforward, I have no patience with small talk or personality management, but I love my life and my family deeply. That love is never expressed in words or hugs, rather in the everyday practical advice, phone calls, meetings etc. I know they know I love them because I am on everyone's (friends, family and friends of friends) speed-dial when they find themselves in trouble in any way. If it's any of them I pick up my phone at all hours of the day, I drop anything to get there and I don't give up until they are happy.

If you gain favor with one, a curmudgeon is loyal beyond loyal. You can count on them to do what they say when they say they're going to do it. A curmudgeon has a certain sense of honor around their integrity. They may be grouchy, but a curmudgeon will be there when the going gets tough. They love a good challenge!

5. Try a little tenderness

A self-confessed "bit of a Pollyanna," Yellowdoggie seems to have found a good balance:

Although I'm not a curmudgeon (I have to admit to being a bit of a Pollyanna) I am married to a curmudgeon. He has been a curmudgeon since I've known him, so it has absolutely nothing to do with age and everything to do with a sense of the ridiculous. I find it quite easy to love my curmudgeon and since I'm probably the only one in the world who would put up with him, we are quite a good match. He treats me with infinite patience and I treat him with infinite tenderness.

So here's a big clue: tenderness. Maybe that's all Mrs. Decker really wanted. Who doesn't want tenderness? Here's what so great about it: tenderness is subtle, not clinging or cloying like in the Goo Factory. This works for a curmudgeon. In fact, the more subtle, the better. Why? Because subtle leaves lots of room for interpretation. Secretly, it's what their heart wants, but don't tell them. They'll disagree.

In the very heart of the heart of a curmudgeon, is someone who like everyone else, wants to be loved. I know lots of you C's might kick and scream at this idea. Some of you even suggested I not use the "L" word, but substitute words like "concern" or "empathy" instead. Some even went further: Mikdow wrote:

I am a curmudgeon and I don't have a soft white underbelly. My underbelly is armor plated because there is a certain kind of person in this world who would like nothing better than to stick a knife in it. I didn't get to be old because I love everybody. I got to be old because I don't. If that makes me a bad person, I never claimed to be a saint.

Here we arrive at the crux of the matter when it comes to love and the curmudgeon. Love is the essence of who we are. We may push it away, rationalize it away, judge it away. We may be skeptics and cynics with "ascerbic wit and a wry sense of humor."

But folks, let's also be brutally honest with ourselves, since we're so into honesty with everyone else. Underneath the mask of cynicism, underneath the grumpy and grouchy personas, curmudgeons have a hard time trusting Love. They have a hard time believing that Love could be real or be for them.

Usually, you'll find a back story, one that is not all that uncommon for the rest of us. A broken heart, betrayal, disappointment, absent parents or ones who didn't express love readily. The one who tends towards cynicism will not stick around for a second chance or put them selves in harm's way again. One broken heart is enough. Or as gcarl asked: "What is love a curmudgeon can believe in?" Good question! Any curmudgeons care to respond to that?

6. Appreciate their humor and hidden sensitivities

The truth is, the heart of a curmudgeon is fragile. Why else would they guard it so? I think curmudgeons are extremely sensitive people who feel things deeply. Why else would they have such strong opinions about the things they rant about? The subject matter is irrelevant.

I doubt if they'll admit it, but it's the need to be heard, the need to be respected, the need to be unique and different that drives a curmudgeon. Why else would they also have such a great sense of humor?

So if you want to love one, treat them with tenderness and generous doses of respect. Appreciate their sense of humor, cultivate your own sharp wit, tread softly with your displays of affection, don't try to get too close, too fast, wait to be invited. Don't be put off by their grumpy exterior. Be willing to see through to the tender heart that lies just beneath the surface. As a Living page blogger, Anne Naylor says: "Love always wins." So if you really want to love a curmudgeon, you'll be tenacious enough to find a way across the moat and over the hurdles and when you do, you'll be richly rewarded!

As always, I appreciate your comments, opinions, reactions, suggestions, and interaction on this subject. If you're a "regular" in these parts, you know that I usually respond to most comments, so let's have a discussion and see where it takes us.

I'm also interested in hearing from those who identify with Pollyanna, as I think we need to spend some time fleshing her archetype out more fully and understanding the phenomenon she represents. More on Pollyanna next time.

Come pay a visit to my personal blog and website: Rx For The Soul, where we engage in this and other topics relevant to the human condition. Become A Fan and be notified when new posts appear.

Until next time, blessings on the path and stay away from the goo factory. Ciao!

 

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As a child, I lived next door to a classic curmudgeon. Mrs. Decker was right out of central casting. If Ebeneezer Scrooge ever married, Mrs. Decker could have been his wife. She was a board-certifie...
As a child, I lived next door to a classic curmudgeon. Mrs. Decker was right out of central casting. If Ebeneezer Scrooge ever married, Mrs. Decker could have been his wife. She was a board-certifie...
 
 
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LifeChangeStartsNow
I am love, discernment, confident, resourceful, as
03:58 PM on 09/05/2010
The thing with me though, Judith, is I have always seen things so clearly -not myself of course but the motivations of others- and always assumed that other people saw with the same clarity. In my younger days, gosh I would just lash out instinctively knowing what to pointedly say to wound, knowing all the while that people don't care to be "read" or hear any semblance of truth.

Happily those 20s, 30s and early 40s have long passed. Because of course, i had to deal with Yours Truly. Never a pretty sight.

gcarl asks "What is love a curmudgeon can believe in?" I would say R.E.S.P.E.C.T., Consideration, Attention, and Acceptance.

And since I ran out of space in the other box, love this article but really Dear Judith, there's no need to talk about me this much, hahaha!

Cheers
Catherine
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LifeChangeStartsNow
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03:33 PM on 09/05/2010
Okay Judith, ya got me - why ARE you writing about me dear lady! I am what I am and act how I feel and show it when I feel it. No need to like me because I love me just fine. Precision in words and deeds - that's me and when words leave my lips, they're bang on target.

I have an acerbic tongue and a sharp wit and some say that I'm hilariously funny. They love hanging out with me - I've yet to understand the "funny" part.

You're right about the need for love and tenderness. Growing up I never believed they existed, now love rules my world. I hug and smile people I like.

And when I love, I say it and show it because it makes ME feel good.

Deliberately hurtful words are an anathema. Respect is the order of the day and you cannot be abrasive. You're looking to get your legs cut off and left bleeding by the roadside.

Be an integral person because it's easy to spot a fake. I let them be until the fools try one on me. Pollyannas I can tolerate from arms length outwards. Something's clinically wrong with the goo-factory types though.

Interestingly, in my new persona as a Hilton rep hence my absence from Huffpost, I've got a fake pollyana and a real one to deal with and they both keep trying to get close to me. Why do people waste energy faking anything!

Cheers
Catherine
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angrymanspokane
Just a regular guy
07:35 PM on 09/02/2010
I am the ultimate example. I hate everything. I complain about everything, but I always wind up doing the right thing. My very patient wife has realized (through trial and error) that I have a short fuse, but a shorter memory. Stupidity and inconsideration are my primary triggers, so as you can imagine I am moderately PO'd most of the time.

Sometimes, underneath the gruff exterior (way under), there's an almost nice person.
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Dr. Judith Rich
Because life's too short to wear tight shoes.
08:07 PM on 09/02/2010
Dear "Almost nice person",

You don't fool me....... if anybody bothered to poke far enough under that crusty exterior, I think they'd find a real lover who is disappointed the world doesn't meet his standards. Can we talk for a moment?

We live in annoying times, that's for sure. There is plenty to be PO'd about, I agree. BUT..... being PO'd about all of it doesn't change anything and it hurts you most of all because you're the one living inside the upset. That very patient wife of your's would probably like to see you stick around for awhile longer, I'm sure. How's your blood pressure?

How about giving yourself (and everyone else) a break and lighten up just a tad? Nothing is worth jeopardizing your own health and well being over. Besides, all those people who piss you off are probably a lot like you, PO'd at the world. The world needs our kindness (Pollymudgeon speaking) and it needs our honesty. Most of all with ourselves.

I'm your fan. Thanks for stopping by.
Judith
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thinkingwomanmillstone
great, green, globs of greasy grimey GOPerspeak.
05:05 PM on 09/02/2010
I mean really Doctor Judith....What's not to love? We make life so interesting.
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Dr. Judith Rich
Because life's too short to wear tight shoes.
06:14 PM on 09/02/2010
One thing one can say about a "C:"- life is never boring around them! Maybe that's why I find them so irresistible!
12:06 PM on 09/02/2010
What about the possibility of love between two curmudgeons?
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Dr. Judith Rich
Because life's too short to wear tight shoes.
06:13 PM on 09/02/2010
Dear Alette,

I've been thinking about your question. It occurs to me that love between two curmudgeons can work quite nicely, provided they're enlightened enough to know themselves and see their own best and worst qualities mirrored in one another and don't project them. This is always a challenge for people, curmudgeon or not, but in their case, I doubt if the relationship would get off the ground unless they could make this distinction.

Does this make sense?

I say this out of my own experience of having loved curmudgeons with my own more closeted "C" qualities. As long as I was blind to my own, I couldn't see the truth about the other and made the difficulties about them.

Thanks for the question. I'm curious about your own experience.
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Ed and Deb Shapiro
09:10 AM on 09/02/2010
Hi Judith - another great post worthy of discussion and I see by the comments that it is so!

I luv to luv and feel that it is the most sacred gift we have to keep the peace!

there are over 6 plus billion people on our dear planet and wonder at times how it all keeps happening with a sense of order- my only answer is LUV

Joyfully - Ed
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Dr. Judith Rich
Because life's too short to wear tight shoes.
11:01 AM on 09/02/2010
Dear Big Eddy,

And you ARE a big LUV! Thanks for being you and for being part of this crazy, wonderful place we share.

Big love to you,
Judith
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Kari Henley
Make a Wish- now make it bigger.
08:29 AM on 09/02/2010
Hi woman!
I have always been typecast as the pollyanna type, but I am hardly a conformist! I think I was born an idealist, and also someone a bit too lazy to hold onto stories of the past! Great and fun topic you stumpled upon! I have a friend who is a curmudgeon, and I have often been hurt by her sharp ways, yet you have offered some great insights here!
Nice work, Judith!
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Dr. Judith Rich
Because life's too short to wear tight shoes.
11:06 AM on 09/02/2010
Hi sistah!

It occurs to me your friend might be a borderline "B". It all depends if she has a sense of humor. If her ways are sharp, but also witty, then she's a "C".

As for you missy, I think you might be more of a "hybrid", like some of the rest of us. The readers here are coming up with new terms: Pollymudgeon and Curmepolly. Which do you prefer?

Thanks for your comment and I look forward to reading your next offering. You're also on a roll, my dear. Good stuff coming from you......

Love,
Judith
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knucklelady
The prettiest dresses are worn to be taken off.
07:40 AM on 09/02/2010
I am in love with a curmudgeon. He is everything I am not. And I am everything he is not. And it works beautifully. I loved the poster's comment about her spouse treating her "with infinite patience" and she him "with infinite tenderness." That is us as well. I "rope a dope" and he can one-two punch. Bam!... I am down for the count. In no uncertain terms he'll give me what for. And I, I will bend and weave and throw a million words at this stoic man hoping something... anything will stick. And then we laugh. We wouldn't want it any other way. We know each other better than anyone else ever has. We love our differences, as they help us learn and grow and see a side of things we'd never see from our own set of eyes. And we firmly embrace or similarities, our love of trips, projects, politics, outdoor fun.

I am the Pollyanna-type, and he is the curmudgeon. One thing is different, however. That is, I am the one who is brutally honest, saying what I feel when I feel it, to whomever and where ever. He has often told me he wishes he could be assertive like me. As a curmudgeon he is not the outspoken man. He is the quiet and reserved one, smiling through the ridiculous hell he may be listening to. He follows the rules and does what he needs to. Always.
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Dr. Judith Rich
Because life's too short to wear tight shoes.
10:20 PM on 09/03/2010
Dear knucklelady,

Somehow, your comment slipped through the cracks and I've just come upon it. And I'm so glad i did! For you give me material for next week's post on Pollyannas. What a great combo you and your curmudgeon are.

Thanks so much for enlivening our discussion with your rich example.
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Lawson Meadows
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12:15 AM on 09/02/2010
Dear Judith,

Now you've done it... I may have to re-think what I am. I always thought I was more "polly" than "curmug", but after reading your last two posts and most of the comments, maybe not so much!

The kicker was when I ask my wife of forty years which description suited me best, and after pointing out that I was a few options short (jerk, clown, moronic twit, and others) she said I had my moments in both camps. So, maybe I will just adopt the "Hybrid" concept posited by OtayPanky and be done with it. Jackandcoke made a great point about being "brutally honest"; I try to be, but within the boundaries of good taste, and I think my delivery is OK... just don't ask my wife.

Guess I will wait on my re-think until your "Polly Posts". Until then, I will continue being a happy person, unwilling to put up with any BS... Is that a "Pollymugeon" or a "Curmugolly"??

Thanks for the good thoughts!
Lawson Meadows
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Dr. Judith Rich
Because life's too short to wear tight shoes.
02:59 AM on 09/02/2010
I vote for Pollymudgeon...... it has a nice "ring" to it! :-)

Stay tuned, Polly is next up.
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kjacobsmeyer
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09:18 PM on 09/01/2010
I'm a proud spouse of a curmudgeon. Why? Because I don't trust people who want everyone to like them or profess to like everyone. If he loves me (through action, not words), that is worth something. A man who loves you and hates the world is a man worth loving.
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feyangel
03:57 PM on 09/01/2010
"What is love a curmudgeon can believe in?" -- For me, it is the same kind I give-- unconditional; honest; seeing and enjoying all the quirks, idiocyncracies, eccentricities, "stuff," as well as humor-filled; patient; kind; understanding and 100%. And I have that in my life these days, in every arena-- life partner, friends, kids, extended family, etc., cos I have that in myself. And I am still a Curmudgeon-- cos that and my Loving are what works best for me. Or as my boyfriend says-- it is part of my Charm!
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Dr. Judith Rich
Because life's too short to wear tight shoes.
03:05 AM on 09/02/2010
You are truly blessed! I get it!
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feyangel
10:22 AM on 09/02/2010
You know as I re-read this this morning-- I want to note that part of how having that curmurdgeon aspect works for me is that it allows me to "filter" people by who is capable and who is not of sharing with me the kind of loving I need to feel safe and loved. I have what I call an "Inner Circle"-- people who share their loving in a similar "quality" as I share mine-- and then there are other people, who are "distanced" according to how "safe" they are to be around or to love. I love everyone-- but I just don't participate closely with everyone.

I used to be far less curmudgeon-y. I was SUCH a Flower Child-- "all you need is love"-- but honestly, I found as I grew up/older that not everyone was capable of cherishing the loving I shared with them, nor were they capable of returning it. Which is fine, I don't judge them-- but I did decide I didn't want them close-in in my life.

For me, curmudgeoness balances my openness and the unconditionality of my loving/giving. It allowed me to become healthy and to create healthy intimate relationships. AND my being that way is not as extreme as Ms. Decker.
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feyangel
03:03 PM on 09/01/2010
Great follow-up to last article! De-Light-full!! Again-- it all fits!
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OtayPanky
You're welcome
02:25 PM on 09/01/2010
To use some classical language, C's have a tragic vision of the universe and P's a comedic one.

But then there are the hybrids - like me. Being a transcendentalist at heart, I think we're all destined, sooner or later, to transcend our limitations and reach our potential.

At the same time though, we live in a very difficult world, with lots of shadow to go around. Cheap, easy transcendentalism seems like just more american cheese, and yes, you can make a lot of money selling american cheese, even though it's processed food with little nutritional value.

As the great curmudgeon H.L. Mencken famously said, "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the stupidity of the American people".
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Dr. Judith Rich
Because life's too short to wear tight shoes.
03:16 PM on 09/01/2010
Dear Otay,

And how prophetic Mencken was!

I'd like to hear more about the "hybrids". Many of us reside there, including myself. What's your take on the likelihood of people reaching their potential? Personally, I don't think we ever truly reach our "full potential", but spend our lives on the journey towards it and that's the whole point. It's not about getting somewhere, but about being on the journey. But that's another post.

Thanks for stopping by,
Best to you,
Judith
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OtayPanky
You're welcome
11:39 PM on 09/01/2010
Judith: What's your take on the likelihood of people reaching their potential?

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It's a certainty, but not in this lifetime.

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Judith: Personally, I don't think we ever truly reach our "full potential", but spend our lives on the journey towards it and that's the whole point.

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There is suffering, and then there is the end of suffering. The end of suffering is not death, but emergence into full potential.

That, ultimately, is the whole point. Not the journey - but journey's end.

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Judith: It's not about getting somewhere, but about being on the journey. But that's another post.

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That's your truth right now, and I wouldn't attempt to argue with you about it.

But it's a temporary perspective, even though it's the best you've got at the moment.
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MollyLive
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01:53 PM on 09/01/2010
Judith-

This post really hits home for me because I realize that I married a curmudgeon and I employed the strategies that you mention for many years. However, over time, his curmudgeon nature started to bring me down and I stopped appreciating what was inside his heart.

I don't regret our divorce because we are still good friends, but I do regret that I stopped appreciating his hidden treasures. I think that now that we have some time and distance I am able to appreciate them more.
http://www.postcardsfromapeacefuldivorce.com

BTW- I think numbers 2-6 are great strategies for loving all people.
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Dr. Judith Rich
Because life's too short to wear tight shoes.
03:21 PM on 09/01/2010
Dear Molly,

I clicked on your link twice, but couldn't open the page.

I also thought the same about the 6 ways to love a C. But with a C, there are certain nuances that need to be considered. One size does not fit all. C's are definitely not universal donors. But then you learned this the hard way.

Based on your web name, sounds like you two worked it out after the divorce. Friendship is the very best result, Too bad it's so difficult to negotiate those waters during a not-so-peaceful marriage.

Thanks for stopping by. Best to you!
Judith
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MollyLive
Educator and peaceful divorce blogger
08:53 AM on 09/02/2010
I don't know why the link didn't work but I will try again with an article that I wrote about 50 ways to love your ex. It was my way of remembering to appreciate him again.
http://www.postcardsfromapeacefuldivorce.com/266/50-ways-to-love-your-ex/
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MollyLive
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09:04 AM on 09/02/2010
Has the HuffPo done something to disable links? Because they aren't working...
01:13 PM on 09/01/2010
While it is wise as you suggest to being a good listener to curmudgeons, I find them to be great listeners themselves. It seems curmudgeons are hanging on your every word, only to blast you with brutal honesty, and in no uncertain terms. You have to love that they haven’t learned the art of delivery, but then, maybe the art is in not caring about what or how they say things. The beauty in it all is you know exactly where you stand with them.
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Dr. Judith Rich
Because life's too short to wear tight shoes.
01:17 PM on 09/01/2010
I'll say! And I value this quality of knowing where you stand.

One of my best friends is a card-carrying C and I never have to guess what she's thinking or how she feels. I've come to appreciate this trait, even when it gets turned against me.
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LifeChangeStartsNow
I am love, discernment, confident, resourceful, as
04:06 PM on 09/05/2010
JackandCoke, I have to say in our defence that it's not that we haven't learned the art of delivery, it's just that.... well, why bother. The person or persons are probably going to take it badly anyway because no matter how we say it, truth is blunt and sugar-coating it is dishonest and a waste of time.

And for your information, there's tons of stuff we don't say either.

Cheers
11:04 AM on 09/07/2010
Catherine, I here you on all points except I have a hard time believing the "...ton's of stuff..." very scary to think there is stuff left inside.

It would be remiss if I didn't remind you that there's a C in each of us. You know what that means don't you?

It's all good though.