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How Come I Feel More Tired When I Sleep Longer?

Posted: 01/19/10 06:47 PM ET

There's nothing more frustrating than sleeping longer to "catch up" on much-needed sleep, only to feel even more tired that day. Sometimes, sleeping longer than usual does the trick for rejuvenating an over-tired body, but sometimes it can make matters worse. Why does this happen? More importantly, how can you avoid it?

A Rhythm Beating to a Different Tune

Your sleep-wake cycle follows a regular pattern (circadian rhythm) and when you sleep "too much" that pattern shifts.

• Circadian rhythms are the patterns of repeated activity associated with the environmental cycles of day and night. Our internal rhythms repeat roughly every 24 hours.

• Once our body clocks, or circadian pacemakers, start "telling the wrong time," we feel it in lethargy, fatigue, and a sleep cycle gone haywire. The clock says one thing and your body says another, very similar to jet lag.

Synchronizing these two clocks (internal and external) come with hitting the "re-set" button every 24 hours. We can do this by exposure to morning light and by activity. For example, when you want to be alert and awake but your body doesn't want to follow, you can stimulate your body to re-set itself just by going outside into the sunlight for 10 or 15 minutes or engaging in some physical activity, preferably outside in the bright light.

The Cycle within Sleep

Sleep itself has a cycle. The average sleep cycle lasts between 80-120 minutes (the average is 90 minutes) and the average person has five of these every night (totaling about 7.5 hours). When you sleep in, you are extending your number of cycles, and then generally you wake up in the middle of a cycle. If it is in the part of the cycle that is deep or REM sleep you can wake and feel worse than before you went to sleep.

Here are the best ways to keep your body clock on track:

Go to bed and get up at the same time every day, including weekends. Your cycles will adjust if there is a regular schedule to follow. The key is your wake up time. Just because you stay up an extra two hours does not mean you should sleep in an extra two hours (your internal clock cannot shift that quickly).

Expose yourself to bright morning light. Your own personal re-set button.

Try to schedule exercise in the morning hours as opposed to late day.

Avoid napping past 3 p.m. It's better to nap according to your circadian rhythm, which for most means snoozing in the early afternoon (1-3 p.m.). If you must nap make it for either 30 min or 90 min. If you nap longer than 30 minutes but less than 90 minutes, you run the risk of entering slow-wave deep sleep within your cycle and waking up groggy.

Try to avoid sleeping in on weekends, even if you went to bed late the night before. Go to bed 15-30 minutes earlier the next night.

Avoid alcohol and caffeine close to the hours of bedtime. Ideally, stop consuming caffeine between 2 to 3 p.m. and watch out for that second cocktail after work or at dinner. These will both keep you out of deeper sleep in the early part of the night, and your body will then try to make up that deep sleep later in your sleep timewhen you are trying to wake up.

An Underlying Sleep Disorder

Sometimes, our best efforts to get a good night's sleep can be thwarted by another big culprit to unrefreshing sleep: a sleep disorder. And if you suffer from one, then all the hours in the world spent in bed might not help you feel that much better, and maybe even worse.

If you wake up after seven to eight hours of sleep and still feel unrefreshed, your problem may not be about quantity but rather quality. Then your brain wants you to return to sleep, hoping that the quality will get better. Or your quality is so poor throughout the evening, sleeping 7.5 hours on the clock is really like sleeping 6.5 hours to your brain. Once again waking up in the middle of a cycle and making you groggy.

So what kind of sleep disorder could be the problem? There are several, but two common sleep disorders in particular can put a serious kink in your sleep quality no matter how long you stay in bed.

Obstructive Sleep Apnea: Picture this scenario: You actually stop breathing, for 10, then 20, then 30 seconds. Then, you begin to gasp for air, as if it were your last breath. This cycle repeats itself over and over, all night long. Amazingly, you may be totally unaware that this has taken place. You may wake up with a dry mouth, a headache, and feeling hung over. You may also be sleepy during the day, have significant memory loss, concentration, attention, mood and other related problems. Apnea causes fragmented sleep, and often lowered oxygen which then translates to daytime sleepiness. With some people the more they sleep the worse they feel-because their brain is starved for oxygen.

Periodic Limb Movements: These can be anything from small twitches to full kicks that occur every 9 seconds or so at certain times throughout the night. You may not realize that these movements wake you up sometimes hundreds of times a night, and you wake having had unrefreshing sleep in the morning. Again the more you sleep the worse you feel.

Remember, you may think that you're a "bad sleeper," but it doesn't have to be that way. There are lots of solutions available today to help the worst kind of sleeper achieve the best kind of sleep.


Sweet Dreams,
Michael J. Breus, PhD, FAASM
The Sleep Doctor

 
 
 

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There's nothing more frustrating than sleeping longer to "catch up" on much-needed sleep, only to feel even more tired that day. Sometimes, sleeping longer than usual does the trick for rejuvenating a...
There's nothing more frustrating than sleeping longer to "catch up" on much-needed sleep, only to feel even more tired that day. Sometimes, sleeping longer than usual does the trick for rejuvenating a...
 
 
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TheBodySacred
divine diva
01:55 PM on 01/24/2010
People who sleep in longer than usual are tired and groggy because they are trying to trick the body into believing it needs more sleep when they should be getting up out of bed. They are working against their body's biological clock and nature, and their body pays them back by making them feel groggy (now the body is tricking them into believing that they really need more sleep).

On weekends I wake up the same time as on weekdays, but I 'sleep in' a little later by lying longer in bed with my eyes closed. I am really awake, but I use it as a time to meditate, and sometimes I fall asleep again - peacefully. I also try to wake up with nature. If the sun is up, I am up too. I do not try to trick my body into believing it is still night by keeping the room dark and the blinds closed.
10:55 AM on 01/21/2010
"So what kind of sleep disorder could be the problem?" asks the author and tells us of two common ones, admitting at the same time there are others. And he says "your problem may not be about quantity but rather quality." True. And he could (and should) have said "your problem may not be about quantity but rather quality OR TIMING."

There are a half a dozen Circadian Rhythm Disorders. Two are situational: Shift Work and Jet lag. The others are chronic, Delayed Sleep-Phase Disorder being the most common. 'Tis bad enough having this while knowing what it is. Those who haven't yet learned that it has a name, feel themselves alone and suffer guilt feelings. If you have "insomnia" evenings and can't even hear an alarm clock mornings, learn about Delayed Sleep Phase!
03:23 AM on 01/28/2010
Thanks for that information! When my husband worked a 6pm to 6am shift at the police dept., I shifted my sleep schedule so that I could see more of him when he wasn't working. Since I have always been a night owl anyway and don't have to wake early (no children living with us any longer and I don't work outside the home), shifting my schedule was very easy and actually enjoyable.

Now my husband has a 9-5, and he had no trouble at all readjusting to "normal" sleep/wake times. But after years of the prior schedule, I can't for the life of me get sleepy before 4:00a.m. Even so, I'm up by mid-morning, so I don't sleep all day as a result. I think my husband believes I just won't go to sleep vs. being truly unable to do so. I have tried hard, but it just plain isn't happening for me the way it did for him.

It would be nice, though, to get myself on a schedule more compatible with my husband's new hours. I don't know if I have DSPD, but the Wikipedia article I read contained some very reasonable suggestions for resetting the body clock that I'm going to try. Thank you again very much for bringing this to our attention! :)
HDR
In every dreamhome, a heartache
08:17 AM on 01/21/2010
I was with them until the part about curtailing naps. No. I love and need my naps. I can't; I won't!
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Norge
Rolf K. Artist, worker of metal, writer of poems
06:31 AM on 01/21/2010
Perhaps also there is one or more chemical imbalances or lack of proper balances of those daily nutrients. Each human has a different chemical structure so it is completely individual and the fine tuning can eventually only be done by the individual. It requires self-study.
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aspiecelia
03:44 AM on 01/21/2010
I do feel better when I sleep longer, but I have CFIDS/ME and PTSD.
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Russell Brown
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05:48 PM on 01/20/2010
I'd like to know what can be done for a Graveyard shift worker who works at least 3 twelve hr shifts a week (and a 4 hr to start the week)

I like (and need) my job but it seems chronic tiredness is just business as usual for me - on a great morning I'm asleep before 7am and up around 3, but then trying to flip or live a normal life the other 4 days - nope - and I end up oversleeping just cause I'm so sick of being tired in the off week I feel if I can sleep I want and deserve to

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yellowdoggie
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10:44 PM on 01/20/2010
I recently started a graveyard shift and I don't know how you can try to live a "normal" life after four days of the vampire shift. I have to force myself to stay up at night on weekends and sleep during the day or the next week is a nightmare. I can't sleep during the day for more than 2 or 3 hours at a stretch. I don't know how long I'll be able to keep this up, but at least I get to work from home so I'm not a sleepy hazard on the highway.
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StephenJK
All your consciousness are belong to us
06:42 AM on 01/22/2010
You never get used to it. I've been working midnights for 5+ years and I have the same problem of not being able to sleep solidly for more than 5 or less hours on my workdays. I have a 4 day week every week and I would recommend not trying to stay on the "sleep schedule" by staying up on your weekends. Go for the good sleep when you can get it. You just learn to tolerate it for the money. But, I love midnights in the spring/summer/fall months as I love to golf. So, there are advantages to midnights. I've always maintained that midnight shift workers should be paid significantly more than any other shift for these reasons. There should be a law on the books that says we should be paid 50% more for our sacrifices.
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StephenJK
All your consciousness are belong to us
06:44 AM on 01/22/2010
I'm in the same boat. Stuck on midnights. For now. I work a 4 day week with 2 eights and 2 twelves. It's nice but, like you say, it just wears on us. But, I, too, go to the "normal" sleep schedule on my days off. I suggest keep it that way.
04:59 PM on 01/20/2010
I've been testing for food sensitivities, and much to my surprise, have discovered that a lot of my sleep issues are the result of food related digestive problems. I had never before realized that a grumbly stomach wakes me up several times during the night. Stop eating the wrong foods, and I sleep fine.

If you're interested in checking for your own sensitivities, I suggest this book: "Food Allergies and Food Intolerance" by Brostoff and Gamlin.
04:46 PM on 01/20/2010
"There's nothing more frustrating than sleeping longer to "catch up" on much-needed sleep, only to feel even more tired that day."

How about a doctor who says HOW COME?
VA Jill
Retired RN, Army mom. Bring the troops home!
04:04 PM on 01/20/2010
And what about us people that work nights? My sleep cycle is always a mess, even though I try not to get up before noon or go to bed before 2 am on nights when I'm off. I am a natural late cycle person and have been all my life (you could ask my mother!) but I am still messed up by working nights. Don't tell me to change to day shift, I feel even worse when I work that!
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PartisanLove
doh
02:56 PM on 01/20/2010
avoid alcohol and caffeine. ha thats funny. The older I get the worse I feel if I sleep too long. I think sometimes when you sleep too long you do wake up a few times at the end of the cycle and thats prob when you interrupt REM sleep and feel real groggy.
02:30 PM on 01/20/2010
Naps are the worst! Have a cup of coffee and get through your day in my opinion. Napping just takes a huge chunk out of your day and leaves you feeling groggy.
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PartisanLove
doh
02:57 PM on 01/20/2010
As much as I love coffee, I still think caffeine in the afternoon is bad. Thats when you crash more from trying to get a lift.
03:05 PM on 01/20/2010
I prefer a siesta. Then I can stay up later in the night. I am normally good for the night with about 5 to 7 hours of sleep.
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12:37 PM on 01/20/2010
Thank you. I have always wondered what is up with the "i'm so tired and I slept 9 hours" thing.
12:26 PM on 01/20/2010
I had severe acid reflux and an hiatal hernia that kept me from sleeping properly for years. I rarely see this addressed in articles about sleep; indeed, the specialists I went to failed to diagnose it for years. I had surgery to correct both conditions and I sleep well now. I am a young person.
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02:29 PM on 01/20/2010
That is because you were either overweight or out of shape(even if skinny). The human body evolved under stressful environments thus it needs physical stress to be healthy. Most hernias are a result of muscle tissue being too weak from sedentary lifestyles, especially during childhood. Weight lifting has been proven over and over and over again as a cureall for most human ailments. A body that is "physically stressed" constantly rejuvenates itself thus limiting the potential of all kinds of diseases and dysfunctions, but most people still don't have a clue about this.

As for "normal" acid reflux the only way to change it is to change the horrible American diet. Most American foods are severely processed and it is the chemicals used in processing that are the problem. Had pizza lately? The fake cheese on it(which is 0 dairy), the processed dough and tomato sauce, it is pure poison. The same holds true with anything that is not raw or natural. If all Americans started eating cooked meals from fresh raw ingredients and lifted weights once or twice a week(but an intense workout) 90% percent of ailments in this country would vanish.
12:21 PM on 01/20/2010
What if I like sleeping in?
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04:53 PM on 01/20/2010
exactly....I want to sleep 12 hours on the weekend, it makes me feel better after getting 4-5 hours of sleep a night during the week. Maybe that's not what i should be doing but this is what happens to most people when you have to work or go to school at ungodly hours of the morning.
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auramac
01:54 AM on 01/22/2010
Then you have no problem. There is no normal... if it hurts enough, you change. Otherwise- why bother?
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dangar
changing the world 1 nanometer at at time
11:30 AM on 01/20/2010
One word: melatonin

For myself, melatonin helps keep me in REM sleep longer (from what I read). I can get 6-7 hours of sleep and wake refreshed.
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EHarold
02:57 PM on 01/20/2010
And too much melatonin over a long period of time causes dependency.