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Maybe Cain Had a Point Worth Discussing

Posted: 10/19/11 07:24 PM ET

This has been a very interesting couple of weeks when it comes to the issue of racism in our country. Herman Cain, the much talked about semi-front runner in the race for the Republican nomination, has garnered a great deal of attention. It is hard to deny that some of the reason he gets so much attention is that he is prone to say some very provocative things. Add to that the fact that he is the only black running for the Republican ticket, ironically for the chance to run against our nations's first half-black president, and you can see why the media loves him.

But one of the most surprising and controversial statements Cain has made, in the last week at least, is his comment that racism does not play a significant role anymore in holding blacks or "anybody" back in this country. Not surprisingly many on the Left and many within the black community railed against this statement and attacked Cain for pandering.

Now I don't know if Cain was saying that to curry favor with conservative voters, though I suspect he knows statements like that certainly endear him even more to those on the Right who already believe such a thing to be absolutely true.

But here's the thing. At the risk of alienating some of my progressive friends, I have to say I think Cain was not completely wrong in what he said. While Cain oversimplifies what is a very complex issue, and while he would be completely wrong if he was implying that racism no longer exists and plays no part in the lives of Americans, I don't think that's what he was saying. And I think it is important that we not get caught up in denying anything someone says on the Right, anymore than it is right when those on the other side of the aisle want to argue against everything Obama or anyone on the Left might say.

What I do agree with about what Cain said, was the general point that despite the fact that discrimination and racism clearly still exists, we as Blacks and other minorities must not keep pretending that sometimes lots of other factors do come into play when it comes to why some make it and some don't. Skin color is not always the most important. And we cannot pretend that far too many Blacks, and other minorities, have proven that skin color and ethnicity does not prevent them from succeeding at the highest levels. In other words racism is not the biggest thing in their lives and it does not stop them from succeeding. That doesn't mean they don't deal with it, simply that it does not stop them.

Racism exists. But so does our first brown-skinned President. Racism exists. But Oprah Winfrey is one of the richest women in America. Racism exists. But in Forbes most recent rankings of the "Highest Paid Men in Entertainment" a black man, Tyler Perry, was at the top of the heap. Not Steven Spielberg. Tyler Perry. Racism exists. But we have some of the biggest and richest athletes, performers and business leaders in America. Racism exists. Sexism exists. Homophobia exists. Islamophobia exists. Anti-semitism exists. All of it is real and all of it impacts people everyday unfortunately. And some are impacted more than others, for various reasons.

Does their existence mean institutional and individual racism does not still impact the lives of many minorities? It would be silly to say people aren't impacted in often terrible ways. But it is important, for all of us, to also acknowledge that we need to get beyond the notion that racism is the biggest thing and that because of it, blacks, and others, simply have no chance.

Personally, I simply refuse to let the existence of racism be an excuse for what I don't accomplish. Of course it impacts me in ways subtle and not so subtle. And I am not naive enough to think there are not people and situations that are closed to me due to my skin color. But as I said before, I don't think Cain was denying it's existence, so I agree with his main point, as I understand it, which is that racism is simply not the biggest barrier to what I can do. I recognize that for some, with less education, a worse economic start, and possessing other major hurdles to success, the power of racism can be and is a great factor, as it is a factor for me. And people cannot simply will their way to success. Which again is another place I disagree with one of Cain's inciting statements, that anybody not rich only has themselves to blame, as he said referring to the Occupy Wall Street protesters.

Racism, it's roots, complexities, and impact, is a very complicated issue. But it doesn't help move our society further in the discussion or actual matter, if we have a knee-jerk response to comments or opinions on the subject. Cain was making an important point, an undeniable point in a way. He oversimplified, but let's be honest and be willing to see that though it bothers some to see it, his general point that racism is not the biggest factor holding many blacks back, has merit and is worthy of real discussion.

 
 
 

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This has been a very interesting couple of weeks when it comes to the issue of racism in our country. Herman Cain, the much talked about semi-front runner in the race for the Republican nomination, ha...
This has been a very interesting couple of weeks when it comes to the issue of racism in our country. Herman Cain, the much talked about semi-front runner in the race for the Republican nomination, ha...
 
 
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01:23 AM on 10/23/2011
Whatever point worth discussion that he may have had is likely now forgotten or flipped.
12:14 PM on 10/22/2011
Obama hear us all screaming, ~J O B ' S he heard us, now that is the focus~ never seen such action in a presidency before , never~ clap clap cl ap Obama, thank you for having the guts to take your stand on beinging our kids home too~ amazing is the family Obama~ can't wait to see what the girls / daughters will do in the future~
12:09 PM on 10/22/2011
O, and Cain is a biggot, so why would a healthy minded human being want Cain too represent them?
12:03 PM on 10/22/2011
O B A M A ~ Houdini ="s the Presidency is Obama's, so relax and we all can welcome the TROOPS, our kids home~ clap clap clap~ Ogama shut it all down, clap clap clap, go no with your bad self, Obama. I can truely say, this is one president that kept hie word, and in time too, ja jaj a ja~ go on family Obama!
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11:07 PM on 10/21/2011
I agree Herman Cain's statement about racism's impact is not as bad as it's portrayed over-
simplifies the point.But likewise,I think to characterize the rejection many black people had
as being a "kneejerk" reaction is another over-simplification. Both are underwhelming,counter-productive assessments of what's really at the heart of this issue, IMO.

I believe what's at the heart of this issue, and likewise,what's at the heart of the strong
resentment and sometimes outright hostility to the criticism Tavis Smiley and Prof. West
level at Obama is the perception of the dis-ingeniousness of the messengers.

When Black people hear Cain dismiss standing on the sidelines of the Civil Rights Movement
while many of his peers stepped up,followed by his over-simplified pronouncements of the
impact of racism,the reaction isn't a kneejerk " WTH does he think he is?",but rather a feeling
of being betrayed by an ungrateful,opportunistic SELLOUT.

I think the same sentiment applies to the resentment many Blacks have for Smiley and West, who,inspite of their good intentions,didn't mount a poverty bus tour until the first Black POTUS served the ceremonial task of proving to them how dedicated and objective they are in pursuit
of their cause.

I think the legacy of racism,such that it imposes no requirement or hesitancy to be fair in one's motives,conclusions and offers of advice,leaves many Black people perhaps even more infuriated when one of their own comes across as looking high and judging low when dealing with his own kind.
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02:17 AM on 10/22/2011
apt, but when would have been a better time for a poverty tour? is it opportunism or just timeliness?
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04:28 PM on 10/21/2011
What I do agree with about what Cain said, was the general point that despite the fact that discrimination and racism clearly still exists, we as Blacks and other minorities must not keep pretending that sometimes lots of other factors do come into play when it comes to why some make it and some don't. Skin color is not always the most important. And we cannot pretend that far too many Blacks, and other minorities, have proven that skin color and ethnicity does not prevent them from succeeding at the highest levels. In other words racism is not the biggest thing in their lives and it does not stop them from succeeding. That doesn't mean they don't deal with it, simply that it does not stop them.


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06:43 PM on 10/21/2011
because of this and this and this you ignore ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL of this: you made a poor assessment and then put it where many could see it.
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07:14 PM on 10/21/2011
That is indeed the point of all this, isn't it? To put these thoughts out here where they can be seen and spark thought. I appreciate your comments though we seem to disagree on this one.

One thing though, your assumption that I ignore "ALLLLLLLL of this" is erroneous. We just come to a different conclusion on how all of that factors into the question at hand. Disagreeing is not the same as ignoring.
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03:27 PM on 10/21/2011
Well played, Mr Harris. I believe you captured Mr Cain's intent perfectly, at least how I understood it. Nice to see an article written with common sense and true insight.
11:56 AM on 10/22/2011
true is only true when an event takes place to prove that it is true~one in the hand 2 in the bush is not your's, is it
01:04 AM on 10/21/2011
Thank you for the article sincerely. Some things to consider: Do outcome inequities constitute legitimate evidence of institutionalized racism? If the answer is no, then how can we use the belief that they are to justify affirmative action policies which are themselves actual, real, concrete examples of institutionalized racism (whether you think it is justified or not that's what it is)? If a post-racial society is the goal, how will the indefinite continuation of affirmative action ever get us there? And if we don't at least have a system in place to progressively shift away from affirmative action, aren't we stuck in a perpetual rut that makes a post-racial society literally impossible? What are the future consequences to race relations provided we continue to proceed without a post-affirmative action road map for America?
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10:00 AM on 10/21/2011
Thanks for your comment. You make an important point. While I support affirmative action and think it still has a place I do agree that we have to recognize that the implications of its use are both positive and negative. How and when we transition away from it, or when it is best used and not used, are tough questions but I agree they are questions worthy of considering.
12:18 PM on 10/22/2011
I would think that if reparations would have taken place by now, we would have this conversation about affrimative action, right?
12:20 PM on 10/22/2011
excuse, making my comment clear~ We would not be having affrimative action now, had America paid up reparations~ anyone think of that? don't think so.
07:57 PM on 10/20/2011
Reframing Cain's dismissive attitude toward the plight of the unemployed and the part racism plays in American society is like pouring a thimble full of water on a raging forest fire. Over simplification of complex issues is the stuff propaganda, not discussion is made of.
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09:56 AM on 10/21/2011
While I agree oversimplification is always dangerous, it is also important that we be not afraid to begin an honest discussion or make an effort to put out a raging fire. I would sauté the person who brought the thimble of water for at least trying versus those who stand back and just watch the fire burn. There is indeed a lot to discuss and understand about this issue, but I think it is worth even the smallest effort to try.
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04:34 PM on 10/21/2011
a half hearted effort that has no effect is just as bad as no effort... maybe worse.

and binary thinking is counter-productive to your self-proclaimed engagement... it enables obstructionists that insist there are no qualifiers to quantify
12:23 PM on 10/22/2011
I agree, reparations were never given, had that happened affrimative action would never been brought up at all. We must understand our history and move with action to correct the very wrongs our Govt. did too all whom they have oprressed, slavery or sum other means, such as putting Native Americans on resavations too this day, in poverty. Somepone ask Cain is that their fault?
07:05 PM on 10/20/2011
I believe in the law of attraction so I would never go through life believing that racism will stop me dead in my tracks from acheiving my goals. Determination and positive thinking trump racism in America.
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06:37 PM on 10/21/2011
how?
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04:40 PM on 10/20/2011
You shoulda stopped at "maybe" Earnest.
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12:15 PM on 10/20/2011
Thank you for your article! I made this same point on the article that discussed Cain's statement. I say acknowledge the issue without letting it control you.
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10:14 AM on 10/21/2011
Appreciate the comment and glad you mentioned the same thing. I say I simply won't let what happens to me be in anyone else's control. Thanks.
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04:35 PM on 10/21/2011
denial.
11:08 AM on 10/20/2011
Whoa! Excellent article.
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10:12 AM on 10/21/2011
Thanks.
10:53 AM on 10/20/2011
Interesting perspective. Two thoughts -- one: pointing to extraordinary individuals such as Oprah to support your point is a bit ham-fisted. Of course in today world, highly-driven and talented people tend to rise to prominence regardless of the circumstances. The true test of racism's impact is when a mediocre black has as many opportunities as a mediocre white. We both know that this is not quite as common.

Two: I agree that racism is often conflated with a bunch of other issues that black people do have control over. Unplanned pregnancy, poor spending habits and improper use of English are examples of issues that can keep individuals trapped in poverty. Taking the gloves off and honestly confronting those issues will go a long way.
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03:11 PM on 10/21/2011
How about, as well, there is a confrontation on the matter of the allocation of resources. When we have some degree of control over the closing of schools and hospitals, when we have some control over the money and resources, then we will be in a position to deal with the ills of our community.
Our communities have traditionally been the first to lose health, housing and educational resources. They close schools before attempting to fix them.
It is a two way street. Let's stop pretending that these problems are exclusive to Black communities, and address it as the national malaise that it is. The one thing that may be unique in Black communities is that no one is in denial that there are issues. A lot of people may be at a loss for solutions, but they are absolutely clear about the need for solutions. We need to be tired of waiting for those in denial to catch up.
11:57 AM on 10/22/2011
Obama did the Bam on Cain~ he will never be Preisdent now~ Let's welcome home all the troops~
12:33 AM on 10/23/2011
You're bringing up a constellation of other institutional issues that are valid -- no doubt. However, you haven't addressed the fact that there *are* some problems which are self-inflicted. Unwise child-bearing is one of them. e.g. A single teen mother with 2 kids is far more likely to be permanently stuck in poverty than a single woman who chooses to delay childbearing until she is gainfully employed and partnered.

Until more of us are willing to look at these social factors without automatically shifting the focus to institutional racism, expect things to remain as they are.
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07:32 PM on 10/19/2011
Nice to see Huffy allow some common sense to emerge. Keep it up.
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10:12 AM on 10/21/2011
Thanks for reading and posting.
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04:40 PM on 10/21/2011
common sense is an abstract that means "whatever i say that i can convince others of"

your conformity is dangerous to your own interests... the accommodation that harris is a proponent of bolster only your confidence in such conformity
12:00 PM on 10/22/2011
nor only his interest, IGNSTHMD, not only his, Mr/ Harris is in the play park and Obama hit a home run, smile it's alll relative and Obama won. Now, let's all welcome the TROOPS home!