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The Galileo Syndrome

Posted: 04/15/11 05:57 PM ET

The House Republicans' attempt to significantly weaken the Clean Air Act's scope through the budgetary process was recently thwarted in the Democratic-controlled U.S. Senate, but environmentalists can ill afford to breathe easier. An assault on the Environmental Protection Agency's (EPA) enforcement authority is sure to continue, and no small wonder. Consider whom you are dealing with.

Of the 238 Republicans constituting a majority in our House of Representatives, 237 could not even bring themselves to vote for an amendment that would merely have required them to acknowledge that global warming was a reality, human activity had something to do with it, and there was a possible risk to public health. This unanimous certitude about the dubious nature of global warming was quite remarkable given that not a single one of them was a climatologist and they were at odds with a global scientific consensus, the conviction of every other nation, and the overwhelming weight of physical evidence.

Mind you, this amendment introduced by Rep. Henry Waxman, D-California, did not obligate any specific remedial action or define the degree of risk and what to do about it. The idea was just to put Congress on record that there was a problem that warranted attention.

No dice. The Republicans made clear that if there were any climate change threat at all, it was overblown. Some of them made no bones about their ideologically-driven belief that the entire problem was a giant hoax, concocted by liberal Democrats as a subterfuge to empower big government and transform the nation into a socialist republic.

During the debate on the amendment, Rep. Virginia Foxx, R-North Carolina, rose to declare, "Democrats think we have more impact on the climate and the world than God does, and we don't."

Shades of Galileo! If the famed 16th-century scientist could have been transported back to life to hear congresswoman Foxx, he would have felt right at home. After all, he was condemned by the Catholic Church for blasphemy and permanently confined to his quarters in an anti-science hissy-fit because of his contention that the earth revolved around the sun rather than vice versa.

Galileo's response to that injustice was to insist that the Scriptures should not be taken literally when science uncovered contradictory facts in the physical world. It's wisdom that holds true to this day, although you would never know it on occasion in the U.S. Capitol during the spring of 2011.

Galileo was the EPA of his day and was rewarded by being placed under house arrest and removed from the public eye for his trouble. Hopefully, the EPA won't end up as the Galileo of our day, courtesy of the Republican Party.

 
 
 

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dragonmaster
04:53 AM on 04/18/2011
The GOP once stood for the environment- now it has aligned itself to the foolish T Party crowd, who by in large know nothing about any science, let alone the details of climate science and global warming.

The 30 plus year rant of blaming government for everything wrong in the country is way long in tooth, and false. An idea that soon will be gone.

Understanding climate science takes some reading- however once you fit the pieces together, it reveals a frightening future- that is not decades away, but here now.
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jimboy71
Hen Diapheron Heautoi
11:13 PM on 04/18/2011
Don't forget lowering taxes and dropping regulations...that is also very important. I'm especially impressed with the generosity of the gas industry which is now sharing 30 plus solvents with the avergae person's drinking water.

And they don't even charge us. Will wonders never cease?
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dragonmaster
05:31 AM on 04/19/2011
How can we possibly keep lowering taxes with an aging population? What services do you want for people? We have a crumbling infrastructure that will be exacerbated in many coastal areas by sea rise by 2050, of the most conservative estimates of 1 foot- but by Doctor James Hansen 3 feet or more.

No regulations or reducing them? That is what the economic implosion of 2008-2009- Your out of touch out of reality visions trouble me- its a severe case of total denial of everything- endemic to the far right. Just ignore everything- and things will be ok.
01:33 PM on 04/17/2011
As in the story of Galileo, there is resistance to evidence that conflicts with an passionate agenda, but the more significant story is how we as a nation are taught (or not taught) to evaluate empirical information. The case for a geocentric universe is intuitively “obvious” until you begin to make more careful observations.

No one can say with absolute certainty how global climate will trend in the future, but there is a substantial and increasing body of evidence that we would be foolish to ignore. A doctor cannot ordinarily predict how long you will live with any certainly, but if certain kinds of conditions such as high blood pressure are present, it is prudent to correct them. We seem to be increasingly swayed by what one party or another claims without examining (as Galileo did) the credibility of their evidence.

Members of Congress don’t need to be climate scientists, nor do we, to look for the quality of documentary evidence that supports political claims (for example, did Obama propose anything remotely resembling “death panels”?) The are ambiguous issues about which sincere and reasonable will naturally disagree, but there is also such a thing as evidence, and if look carefully far enough and carefully enough, the geocentric model of the Solar System does hold up, no matter how convincing this may seem at “sunrise” and “sunset”.
08:37 AM on 04/17/2011
Edward, in 2005 the UN predicted there would be 50 Million climate refugees.

Where are they?
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Hen Diapheron Heautoi
03:54 PM on 04/17/2011
Do you know how many there are? What number do you think is acceptable?
03:46 PM on 04/16/2011
I find it amusing that, in reading the post and all 20 replies so far, that the very ones comparing this to Galileo's dispute with the church have BECOME THE CHURCH! Those professionals who dispute the "warming bible" are taunted, ridiculed and made to feel ignorant of the facts. This is just what the church did. Do you not see it?
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gallon
Those who fail to remember history are, um
05:05 PM on 04/16/2011
You are projecting. Projecting is a primary tactic of the deniers, and the Big Oil, Heartland, etc. crowd.
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Hen Diapheron Heautoi
05:41 PM on 04/16/2011
Ah, ok. So I am a professional sportscaster. Does that make me a scientist?
03:27 PM on 04/16/2011
Let me make an assertion, Mr Flattau, and invite you to give merely one example by which to refute. Here it is: nothing at all unusual has happened to any weather phenomena in recent decades. If you can't refute it, and I believe you can't, then what, pray, is the basis for your concern over climate change? As for Galileo, he thought in ways not approved of by the establishment in his day, and it caused him no end of problems. The modern establishment is very much on board with climate alarmism. So, look to sceptical scientists to find a modern Galileo in this field.
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gallon
Those who fail to remember history are, um
05:24 PM on 04/16/2011
Hmmm, easy to refute your assertion. NASA has carefully recorded a slow global temperature rise. The decade from 2000 through 2010 is their hottest decade on record, globally.

Anything else?
06:29 PM on 04/16/2011
But CO2 has been rising quite quickly and dramatically in the late 20th century, and the late 20th century rises were no faster, and no more dramatic than the earlier 20th century ones. All part of a slow overall rise since the Little Ice Age, a rise that seems quite unperturbed by CO2 although it has shown fluctuations. So that won't do at all, gallon. No cigar.
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gallon
Those who fail to remember history are, um
06:50 PM on 04/16/2011
The long term CO2 rise has been roughly exponential. Do you also deny the science of NASA?
09:18 AM on 04/16/2011
This article is almost like preaching to the choir. The history lesson will be read not by those in need of the information. Still, I could not have constructed a better analogy.
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Malcolm Hensley
Last of the Reagan Republicans
08:08 PM on 04/15/2011
I've watched the environmental left dig this hole for the EPA.

I understand why they're so many Climate Change Deniers. Our biggest left leaning environmental groups demand we cut CO2 emissions but are at best mute on the topic of CO2 emissions from the fast developing nations or worse defending their growing CO2 emissions with terms of per capita or changing the subject about our past usage.

This sounds to the Right as Transfer of Wealth! And they logically conclude if man-made climate change is real then American CO2 is no better or worse than the CO2 from fast developing nations. And if the environmental left is defending fast developing nations ever increasing CO2 emissions then logically Man-Made Climate Change is a farce and a New Climate Change Denier is made!

As the job market has eroded because of developing nations using cheap dirty fossil fuel energy the numbers OF Climate Change Deniers has increase. The Republicans have reaped the rewards and we will be Lucky if the EPA only is put in House Arrest!

The solution is easy. If the Democrats would propose a tax or tariff based on the environmental footprint of manufacturing, transportation, and sustainability of products sold here, it would break the coalition of manufactures and fossil fuel suppliers. Manufactures here feel because of the EPA they would have a competitive edge.

More importantly this is a world solution to a world problem.

Otherwise it is a wealth transfer!
08:22 AM on 04/16/2011
If what you describe is actually the position and the motive of the Right, it's illogical and unreasonable. First of all, you can only have one of two positions as a starting point: Either you accept the conclusion of those scientists saying that the current level of man made CO2 emissions is a risk for the world as we know it or you think they are wrong. If you think they are wrong, the further debate pretty much ends there.
But if you accept the science to be reasonable, then something must be done to globally decrease CO2 emissions and that means you need a global compromise, or at least a consent among the G20 nations. Anything else is not logically and just a chicken race.
And of course the size of population is a factor in that. If one would suggest that every nation only emmits as much CO2 as Malta does, the US would quite certainly point out that 300mn cannot have a footprint as small as 600k. The same goes for 1.xbn Chinese or Indian people which cannot have a footprint as small as the US.
And you cannot simply tell them not to use the very same technology (cars, coal plants, natural gas) than the US does. They have the same right to pursuit (economic/ lifestyle) happiness as do Americans.
So, if they don't like the current proposals, what's their plan, what are they willing to sacrifice in order to reach a compromise?
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Malcolm Hensley
Last of the Reagan Republicans
04:36 PM on 04/17/2011
Take an article say a solar cell, energy intensive to make. Takes a lot of electricity to make that solar cell using electric arc furnaces. Say it is made using dirty coal with no scrubbers emitting high levels of mercury, lead, SO2, and CO2. It is transported across the ocean in a freighter ship which uses oil high in sulfides (more CO2 and SO2 emissions) and sold here in the U.S. verses a Solar cell manufactured in California using clean renewable energy and sold locally. The carbon footprint is radically smaller agreed. The imported product would carry a carbon tax that should make the Californian product a more attractive choice. This would induce the importer to manufacture his product with renewables and transport the product in a cleaner emitting ship to reduce his emissions footprint.

I never said nations like China and India have to have a lower emissions level than the U.S. it is product specific. It forces all manufactures world wide to reduce emissions to be competitive.

The Europeans may or may not have a competitive advantage it's always a product to product comparison.
08:30 AM on 04/16/2011
Secondly, your "solution" would have a little drawback if others act in reciprocity: What if the EU would place tariffs on US manufacturing and products which come with a higher footprint than ours?

Besides, it's exactly that kind of thinking that the US seeks to use the climate negotiations not as a means to solve an environmental problem but to gain an economic edge over the emerging economies that is frustrating everyone.
The only ones with even more ridiculous proposals are some OPEC nations which want a financial compensation for oil they cannot sell because people would need less oil/ fossils.
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Malcolm Hensley
Last of the Reagan Republicans
04:47 PM on 04/17/2011
To be perfectly frank I think the whole concept of world trade has proven to be a job and wealth transfer from the U.S. to the rest of the world!

I hear the Economics Professors argument for free trade so I look at the results then I look at history. There was a huge debate in this nation in the 20's and 30's that's 1820's & 1830's between Senator Daniel Webster and slave owning plantation owning Senator John C. Calhoun. Senator Webster had the votes and the U.S. became a protectionist country for almost 170 years we did very well! I look at the lost manufacturing jobs since the 90's. From my view point Free Trade has made Wall Street rich but has destroyed Main Street. This destruction can be seen in our cities deficits and our states deficits!

Ask yourself do you have more job security now than you had in the 90's? If you lost your job today would you have a new job next week like in the 90's?

If you said yes then you most likely are a Wall Street Trader!
07:22 PM on 04/15/2011
Shows how much you know: "(Galileo) was condemned by the Catholic Church for blasphemy and permanently confined to his quarters in an anti-science hissy-fit because of his contention that the earth revolved around the sun rather than vice versa." No,no, no. Galileo in fact got along with the Church just fine, and they humored him more or less on the earth-goes-around-the-sun thing because he was the pope's darling. Until he wrote a book that portrayed the pope in an unflattering light.
You don't even know the story of Galileo and yet you are prepared to advertise your lack of knowledge so stridently, that I suppose we should not be surprised at your equivalent misinformation with respect to climate change. I am a professional climatologist with 30 years experience, and I can say categorically that global warming is bunk, just like the 1990's theory of "global cooling" and a thousand other scientific fads--Y2K, phlogiston, epicycles, punctuated equilibrium, etc. Most of mycolleagues are afraid for their jobs and can't disagree with ideologues like yourself. They have to go along. So I will have to disagree for them.
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Katmandu01
09:48 PM on 04/15/2011
All of them afraid for their jobs including those who are presenting their research and studies through every single national scientific academy in the world? Even the Royal Society of London, the German Academy of Sciences Leopoldina and the Académie Française. All of them are just cowering in fear while they sweat away in labs like Stalin's rocket scientists. Even your colleagues in this country who are presenting their work for NASA, NOAA and the American Association for the Advancement of Science? How about the editorial staff of Scientific American or Nature? All of them are presenting such outlandish ideas out of terror that they'll be out of work if they reveal the truth that "global warming is bunk"? This is just too much. I don't know what area of climatology you worked and I don't claim to trained in that field. However I am well educated and when I see the massive weight of evidence presented by every CREDIBLE source dealing with the issue of global warming, I will weigh the evidence and I know where I'll come down on this issue. I don't doubt that there are a lot of very clever and well meaning scientists like Singer, Lintzen, Spencer and Michaels who dispute the theory of AGW but they are completely outnumbered by the weight of scientific evidence warning of the dangers it poses to the world my children will inherit. And by the way, not one national scientific academy ever supported the idea of "global cooling".
11:06 PM on 04/15/2011
Yes, all of them afraid for their jobs just like the scientists were in Galileo's time. I know because they tell me privately. I prepared my first WBN-10A in 1955, so I've been a professional climatologist for 56 years. And I'm sitting here on one of the coldest April 15 in America's history, after one of the coldest winters and coldest summers, and after a pattern of cold springs, cold summers and cold winters, not just one. So what do I need a glacier for? You're talking about findings of a 1 degree change in 100 years. We don't even know if the thermometers were calibrated correctly 100 years ago. Learn to think for yourself a little bit.
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Malcolm Hensley
Last of the Reagan Republicans
01:35 AM on 04/16/2011
I'm in the camp that says are best climatologist are as far along in their science as early 19th century doctors. And I'm wondering with all this talk about climate change (global warming) they are bleeding us as of old!

But the truth is there are plenty of reasons to reduce our dependence on imported fossil fuel!

And let's say that the Climatologist are right and man is a cause of climate change.
This issue is to big to be wrong on so I try and reduce my carbon footprint!
12:12 AM on 04/16/2011
wait I missed this one:
"just like the 1990's theory of "global cooling""

Now anyone even familiar with climate would know there was no 1990s theory of global cooling. Who are you trying to kid mr "I am a professional climatologist with 30 years experience"? Let me guess, you bought a thermometer for your garage and consider yourself a climatologist.

"punctuated equilibrium"

hmm possible creationist too?
09:09 PM on 04/16/2011
I am thrilled that I have managed to upset a bunch of global warming lightweights who can't even predict the weather for Sunday's picnic. Oh, the global cooling theory was in the 1970's, not the 1990's? And we're so much smarter than then, aren't we? Yeah, right. Forty years is not even an eyeblink on the face of eternity, sonny. The overall mean surface temperature of the Earth has not changed in 4 billion years. Just do your reading and don't limit yourself to that famous meteorologist,Al Gore.