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Virginia Foxx: First Woman to Ever Pay for College

Posted: 04/19/2012 3:23 pm

Congresswoman Virginia Foxx is the chairwoman of the Higher Education & Workforce Training Subcommittee. So she's well-versed on the complicated issue of the current student loan bubble, correct? Actually, no. It turns out that Virginia Foxx knows about as much about the specifics behind the student loan crisis as Red Foxx, who is dead. 2012-04-18-398pxVirginia_Foxx.jpg

Foxx, a congresswoman for North Carolina's 5th Congressional District and, let me repeat, chairwoman of the Higher Education & Workforce Training Subcommittee did not say this:

"I was the first woman to ever pay for college. I don't know why students never get jobs anymore. Why do students think college is free? Why don't students work? If you want an education that will make you out of touch with current social issues, you need to shut up and rub my feet."

She did not say that. What she did say was this:

I went through school. I worked my way through. It took me seven years; I never borrowed a dime of money. ... I have very little tolerance for people who tell me that they graduate with $200,000 of debt or even $80,000 of debt.

• Virginia Foxx went to the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill in 1968, back when multiplayer gaming meant carrying around a burlap sack full of sheep knuckles. According to the National Center for Education Statistics, in 1968, the average yearly cost for tuition, room, and board for a public university was $1,245. In today's words, that is one thousand two hundred and forty-five dollars for a year's worth of college. For today's average college student, that dollar amount is roughly equivalent to the cost of a textbook and a garbage bag.

According to Rebuild the Dream, in 1968, seven years at UNC Chapel Hill, adjusted for inflation, cost $46,100. That same education now would cost more than $140,000. Rebuild the Dream also notes that minimum wage was 38 percent higher in 1968 than it is now, adjusted for inflation. Just some facts and numbers and stuff to throw out there ... sometimes those are good things to consider.

• According to Opensecrets.org, some of Virginia Foxx's biggest donators are PACs such as Education Management Corporation, the Association of Private Sector Colleges and Universities, as well as the esteemed, for-profit, Keiser University (Home of the Fightin' Sozes).

Jokes aside, here's the only thing that matters:

Social policies in our country are being dictated by individuals who are make their decisions based on who donates to their campaigns, therefore rendering those policy-makers completely out of touch with their voter base. These people are completely oblivious to the current state of affairs, and yet, they are in charge of creating "solutions" to today's problems. People who operate in this manner are not thoughtful problem solvers full of meaningful analysis, they are corporate shills.

Looking down the barrel of the impending student-loan bubble and saying, "I have little tolerance for those with student loan debts..." is akin to telling blind people that they should just open their eyes wider if they want to see. Foxx's comments completely expose her as someone who has absolutely no concept of today's higher education landscape. Good thing she's the CHAIRWOMAN OF THE HIGHER EDUCATION & WORKFORCE TRAINING SUBCOMMITTEE.

How do people like this get elected and appointed to such positions? I have no idea. But I do know that only public service and direct action can save this country now. It's up to every single person in that state who had to take out student loans in order to subsidize skyrocketing education costs to work to make sure that someone as clueless as Virginia Foxx is no longer allowed to create social policy. The only other option is to educate Virginia Foxx, get her to admit how oblivious she was, and have her dedicate her position to making public education accessible to American citizens. The latter is highly unlikely absent several thousands of dollars in donations to her office. Maybe if our children don't take out student loans, they'll be able to support politicians who are trying to keep people powerless and uneducated.

Change has to come through educating voters, and from direct action by grassroots organizations. Occupy North Carolina, Occupy Chapel Hill, Occupy Tobacco Road, this one is on you. Best of luck. I trust that y'all have little tolerance for letting the rest of us get screwed.

 

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Congresswoman Virginia Foxx is the chairwoman of the Higher Education & Workforce Training Subcommittee. So she's well-versed on the complicated issue of the current student loan bubble, correct? Actu...
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bornorange
Watching history repeat, sadly.
07:24 AM on 04/26/2012
One last tidbit on a related subject...

With Obama stirring the pot again, raising class envy tensions and dislike of the system, there are two things that you need to consider:

One is "Why is he doing this?" (Distract from his failed presidency)

Why doesn't he tell the students he's whipping into a frenzy that he, and his predecessors, have hung twice that amount of debt on them... and with nothing to show for it.

http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/
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03:22 PM on 05/01/2012
Funny how Obama wasn't mentioned at all here until you posted something "related."
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12:00 PM on 04/25/2012
"According to the National Center for Education Statistics, in 1968, the average yearly cost for tuition, room, and board for a public university was $1,245."

I spent $1,400 for TWO classes and books at my local community college. I have ZERO tolerance for selfish people like Foxx who receive blessings and then don't want young people to have the same blessings.
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bornorange
Watching history repeat, sadly.
07:05 AM on 04/26/2012
Hello, product of the public school system,

Because you are a Millennial Generation product, you have been spared some of the harsh realities of life. Like our president, you got a trophy by just saying "present." It isn't your fault, but once recognized, the balance belongs to you.

What Ms Foxx is saying is that "individual responsibility" is paramount.

Those 2 classes for $1400? Did you pay for them or borrow the money? If you borrowed the money, you have already stepped in it. Get a job. Earn the $1400 and take 2 more classes.

Ms Foxx has undoubtedly received blessings. She didn't pay for college with them though. She paid for it with a pay check.

By the way the price of higher education will never stop escalating until the federal government stops giving unlimited loans to students.
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08:31 AM on 04/26/2012
Let's not make assumptions. I am Gen X (born before the 80s) and I have gray hair. I have busted my butt and made a good living, bought a house, saved for retirement, and paid my bills. None of it, not a penny, was handed to me. I have gone to college for 20 years on and off, and haven't incurred one dollar of debt doing it. When I started, in California, tuition maxed out at $50 for an entire semester. I have seen prices in college go through the roof (along with living expenses). Even the textbooks cost hundreds of dollars. It is so much harder to pay for school as you go these days, and most kids simply cannot get a job that is going to pay thousands of dollars of tuition while they are supposed to be going to school. Prices go up, it becomes more difficult to pay for college, and the students get blamed for being irresponsible! When Ms. Foxx went to school, the price of college was fair and affordable. Not the case anymore. Now I have three children entering college and we are looking at a cost of $50-$200 at least.

The better we do at educating the younger generations and providing them the opportunity, the more successful and more competetive our country will be with the rest of the world. The more difficult we make higher education, the less people will become educated.
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03:20 PM on 05/01/2012
Yep. And for that $85,000 undergraduate degree that is needed for many employers to even look St you're resume? Get a job.
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10:49 AM on 04/25/2012
People like Foxx gets stuck in a time warp. "I worked so why can't you?" Lots of people in college work, it's just not enough. I guess she has no kids she's putting through college, or she's too rich to notice the costs.
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bornorange
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07:11 AM on 04/26/2012
Mis-directed indignation.

The costs of higher education have far out-stripped inflation... why?

Check out the endowments ant the most expensive schools... what is that for?

How about salaries and retirrement plans?

I think you'll find many of the 1% have the title of professor.
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Edward Murray
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03:32 PM on 05/01/2012
Yeah, 1.8% of the top 1% have the title of professor. Hardly the "many" you say. Good lord... Get some info and some perspective. Might help you work a little less at being right. But I'm sure you begrudge CEOs and doctors in the same way that you do people who try to educate, so you're completely valid.

http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/newsgraphics/2012/0115-one-percent-occupations/index.html
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10:10 PM on 04/24/2012
Ms. Foxx needs to go back to college. Her views are rutted in the 1950s. I know the Republican'ts want to take the US back to before the 50s. But her views and ideas are as antiquated as she is. But then she may be hiding from the "death panels" that she said were in the ACA.
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08:10 AM on 04/25/2012
You have $200,000 in student loan debt? Where did you go to school? Dubai?
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10:07 AM on 04/25/2012
Try most universities for a Masters degree, $40K a year times 5+ years.
08:13 PM on 04/23/2012
How much was college when YOU went Ms Redd Foxx?
Didn't you graduate with Frederick J. Flintstone and Bernard Rubble?
Get the "Mister Falcon" off your high horse.
06:55 PM on 04/23/2012
That's just one of the many reasons why I am working to send Mrs. Foxx home on a government sponsored retirement program. Please look at my web-site at www.nc5th.us and help me send her home.
Elisabeth Motsinger for Congress (nc5th)
11:10 PM on 04/20/2012
Yeah, you almost had me with this article. Right up until you directed your hyperbole toward those Occupy nit-wits. The protest scum, you know, the rapists, druggies, violent cop hating, anti-Semite racist punks. Yeah, give filth like that a nudge in the direction of our nation's Universities. That's all we need, more socialist violence and hate on our college campuses

Yeah, you almost had me...almost.
08:27 PM on 04/23/2012
Way to generalize, Ranch.
01:50 AM on 04/25/2012
Yea... rapists, druggies? Come on! Are the only one left that still believes those fake stories? WAKE UP! The few (and I mean very few) crimes from within the Occupy movement were all outsiders and NONE were actual Occupy members.

How about the “murder” that was reported for days on Fox News; it turned out later that the murder was 4 blocks away! Can you believe it!!!! A murder in New York City?!?!?

Stop watching Fox News for a while and see what REALLY going on in the world!
09:31 PM on 04/20/2012
After earning my undergraduate degree it was clear I would need an advanced degree to get a job in my chosen field. Given all the horror stories of student debt, though, I was very wary of taking that next step. Instead of jumping into a graduate program (and intense debt) right away, I decided to go overseas to teach English and save up money. While doing this I found an opportunity to study outside the U.S. at an excellent 3-year program, the entire cost of which will end up being less than 2 semesters at a similar program in the US. Additionally, the job prospects seem much better where I am, and the general environment (a better work-life balance, easier access to affordable healthcare, a more socially responsible government, and a far more relaxed political environment) is a breath of fresh air after all the problems and vitriol rampant in the U.S. At this point I doubt if I'll come back home anytime soon. The fear of intense, long-term student debt and its limiting effects on my future possibilities are a big part of my decision to stay overseas. Articles like this, which show how people in charge seem completely out of touch, and have no real concept how severely the situation has worsened since they were in college, cause me to feel I'm making the right decision.
11:14 PM on 04/23/2012
Otebig, So, are you really saying that the problem is that College in the U.S. costs too much? If that's the case, is it possibly because too many people get their education for free, as in the world of medicine, which requires those that don't get anything from the government to pay even more?
02:45 PM on 04/24/2012
How do you get a medical degree for free?
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Edward Murray
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02:26 PM on 04/20/2012
PS, Molly Katchpole over at Rebuild the Dream put together a petition denouncing Foxx's comments. She's trying to break 100,000 signatures before she presents it to Boehner next week.

http://act.rebuildthedream.com/sign/denounce-foxx

Plz favorite this to keep it at the top o' the comments!
08:37 AM on 04/21/2012
I signed it :)
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11:57 AM on 04/25/2012
Me, too.
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Mike HeXt
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08:18 AM on 04/20/2012
EDMC is scamming innocent people for FED $$. They all need to be in jail. Same for this 2face.
10:23 PM on 04/19/2012
Thanks, and you gave some much needed comic relief Re: Foxx and the dire student loan crisis, which is felt in countless American Houeholds.

The Student Lending system has long been a phantom industry, and only now and very late in the game is some light finally being cast on its inner workings.

Perhaps my new Post will help, and you can read about my student loan debt cautionary tale/ horror story if you go to my blog at: www.esqpainting.blogspot.com
07:10 PM on 04/19/2012
A Marshall Plan is needed for our youth....Do any of our leaders have the political courage and resolve to champion it? By the way, I have seen this woman on C-Span and it does not appear that she got her money's worth for her degree at UNC.
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03:49 PM on 04/19/2012
Nice work. I graduated in 1996, and since then my former college has more than doubled its tuition. It is criminal what we are doing to kids of the next generation. Only the rich and powerful will have a fighting chance, everyone else will be mired in debt. I think it is huge motivating factor for the 99%. They get out of school and realize how screwed over they are, and they flip out.
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Edward Murray
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02:22 PM on 04/20/2012
Thnx, Juliet! Yeah, it's pretty maddening to so clearly see the creation of a world where only the wealthiest are OK and everyone else is just left uneducated or buried under a mountain of insurmountable debt.
03:28 PM on 04/24/2012
One thing that is not mentioned is that 10 minutes down the road there is a school called Durham tech, which costs about 8% of what UNC does. While this education is not as shiny or attractive to employers as a UNC degree is, it is an education. So maybe the problem is not entirely with the costs of an education but the society as a whole that views one education as more valuable than another. The argument could also be made for the problem lies in the supply demand. If there was not a line as long as there is with people who are willing to dish out that kind of money for the school they could not charge as much. It is very easy for a school like UNC to hike tuition up when they have 20-30 thousand people applying for under 3000 spots. I guess what I am saying is don't blame the government for this problem when every student who complains and whines about tuition hikes at no point thinks about transferring to a less expensive school.