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Christine Lagarde: "I Don't See the IMF As the Bad Cop"

Posted: 06/21/11 12:45 PM ET

For her exclusive interview with Alexandre Zalewski and me at France's Ministry of Finance, Christine Lagarde sported an ensemble in bright yellow -- the color Queen Elizabeth wore at April's Royal Wedding. The Queen promptly turned the color into a fashion trend.

Lagarde, for her part, is poised to become Queen of International Finance. Since Dominique Strauss-Kahn's resignation, the no-nonsense former lawyer -- who has also headed France's Ministries of Trade and Agriculture -- has overcome international doubts about appointing yet another French national as Managing Director of the International Monetary Fund. She's now the EU's official candidate. Developing countries have lobbied for one of their representatives to get the post, but have so far failed to unite behind one.


Assuming that you're elected Managing Director of the IMF, what can we expect from you in your new role?

The IMF has two specific tasks: oversight and crisis management. I want to focus on those two roles. They have to be constantly updated so that they're relevant and responsive to the needs of the members. The IMF belongs to its 187 member states. I want it to be relevant to all of them. Some of them -- in Africa, Latin America and Europe -- have particular needs, and they should continue to receive the kind of support they request. Receiving IMF assistance shouldn't be a stigma. But all countries are beneficiaries of the IMF's oversight mission, including its early-warning system, which was improved by the IMF's previous Managing Director. I don't see the IMF as the bad cop. I see it as an institution that delivers the best possible services to its members.

How do you view the current global economic situation?

There's an asymmetric post-crisis recovery. China, Brazil, India and some African countries have 5-9% growth rates. Industrialized countries like the US, Europe and Japan, on the other hand, have much slower growth rates and slower recovery. If I look at the global situation, industrialized countries are clearly focused on sovereign debt, but we shouldn't generalize so easily. Sweden, for example, is doing incredibly well. Their growth rate is amazing and the level of indebtedness is extremely reasonable, and yet it's part of the EU. If you look at other parts of the world, the major concern is not debt but inflation and the price of commodities, which is skyrocketing. In China food prices have risen around 10% in the past month alone. I was in Cairo last week, and there the price of wheat is a big concern there. One concern that most countries share is how to create jobs, especially for young people. We have to make sure that we can build the macroeconomic environment to create enough jobs to give young people the expectation that there is hope for them in the world.

Speaking of youth unemployment, there's lot of concern about exactly that in the PIGS countries (Portugal, Ireland, Greece, Spain). Can the IMF help them if they're not able to deal with such structural problems themselves?
The IMF has to provide them with financial and technical support to address those structural problems. Portugal, for example, has agreed to reform the labor market, as a key component of the program. It's same thing with Greece. It was a structural reform, and that's where the IMF can help.

Greeks are rioting because of the austerity package...
Under the current situation, Greece could not refinance itself. It had to seek help from the international community to provide them with the needed financial assistance to bridge the time needed for the structural reforms to bear fruit. The EU and the IMF responded. But the Greek have to help themselves first. They have to sort out their financial situation, reduce their deficits, rebuild their competitveness. There is no way around it.

You're the EU's candidate, and EU countries are large IMF borrowers. Isn't that a conflict of interest?
The moment I become elected, if I'm the one, I don't represent a country or a group of countries. I'm there for the entire institution and I have to dissociate myself from my home turf. The IMF belongs to nobody but its entire membership of 187 countries. Obviously, I'm familiar with the landscape, the people in charge and I took part in some of the discussions. But from that moment on, my interest is not my territory or my home. Incidentally, let's bear in mind that almost all regions of the world comprise countries that benefit from IMF precautionary or disbursing programs.

Developing countries say it's time the IMF Managing Director came from their ranks. What's your reaction?
I think anybody should be allowed to be a candidate. And I don't regard myself as the European or the French candidate. I'm a candidate. The process is open, transparent and it should be merit-based, as well as regardless of nationality. I shouldn't being blamed being European, nor should anyone be blamed because they're from an emerging country.

The EU plans a new law that would force companies to hire female executives. Do women make better leaders?
I have to be careful here, because I'm known to have complained about too much testosterone, particularly in trading rooms. But it goes back to a point that is critical to me about the IMF: diversity. If you only have one gender represented, it's a weakness. You strengthen an organization by making it more diverse, gender-wise, academically and geographically.

A couple of years ago, would the global financial landscape have benefited from more diversity?

Absolutely. Women bring a different set of values. People should be valued on their respective merits, but there shouldn't be any exclusion. In many instances, women are still not readily accepted at the table.

Should women stop complaining, or do they have a legitimate concern?
Women have a legitimate concern. Look at the salary scale, and the differences between men and women's status, yes, there is a big difference. I hope that those differences blur to the point were women can actually have the choice. I'm not suggesting that all women should have a professional career or consider it the ultimate achievement. What I would hope is that the workplace is sufficiently hospitable so that you can decide whether you want to have children, raise them until the age of six and then come back to work, and not suffer as a result of that.

The world is still in an economic downturn. Assuming you're elected, can you help prevent other economic collapse?
Yes. In fact, that's part of the IMF's job to identify where bubbles are forming. Of course, countries have to listen to the IMF, too. Before 2008 there were reports by the IMF warning about a collapse. That's why, in addition to skilled staff, the IMF needs a Managing Director who is politically astute and tell governments, "watch out, something is boiling here." The IMF shouldn't just be only the fireman. It should also be an alert system.

So the previous IMF leadership failed to be such an alert system?
It did observe problems, but it made mistakes, and it acknowledged making mistakes, which provides a sound basis for further improvement.

The reason you're about to assume leadership at the IMF is the DSK scandal. How has it changed the political culture in France?

It has made women stronger. It has given women the confidence to speak up and be respected.

Have you received any advice from your predecessor about how to run the IMF?

No.

Previously published in Metro http://www.metro.lu.

 

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Jack Daniels Esq
Hold the ice
11:56 AM on 06/23/2011
She comes over as a classier version of Billary - but thats about it - more testosterone, y'all
05:44 AM on 06/22/2011
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Will Lagrde be criminalized before the IMF vote ? Or is sarko counting on the IMF to exempt her from French Prosecution ?????

NEW DOCUMENTS EMBARRASSING

Le Monde also publishes new documents embarrassing to Ms. Lagarde - the Public Prosecutor at the Supreme Court wishes to bring to CJR. These two opinions from two experts requested by the CDR, which confirm that the minister was informed in the fall of 2008 doubts on the impartiality of Pierre Estoup, one of three arbitrators chosen to resolve the dispute with Mr. Tapie. However, the finance minister has refused to initiate a process of disqualification.

Thus, November 11, 2008, law professor Francois-Xavier Train wrote that "the elements establish the existence of a sufficiently legitimate doubt about the RDC's independence and impartiality of Mr. Estoup" and concludes that the "admissibility of the objection seems to be satisfied."

Gerard and Fabrice Lhomme Davet
05:43 AM on 06/22/2011
Will Lagrde be criminalized before the IMF vote ? Or is sarko counting on the IMF to exempt her from French Prosecution ?

Lagarde-Tapie affair: the Paris prosecutors opened an investigation
for the Monde.fr | 22.06.11 |

Already under threat of investigation by the Court of Justice of the Republic (CJR), Christine Lagarde, Minister of Economy and Finance candidate to succeed Dominique Strauss-Kahn to head IMF sees profile a new danger. The Paris prosecutor's office has in fact opened in mid-June a preliminary investigation for "abuse of social power."

This procedure is implicitly Jean-François Rocchi, one of the senior officials, led by Ms. Lagarde, settled the arbitration of the dispute between Bernard Tapie and Credit Lyonnais. Mr. Rocchi is involved in his former capacity as chairman of the Consortium de Réalisation (CDR), a structure created in 1995 to manage the liabilities of Credit Lyonnais after the near collapse of the former state-owned bank. M. Rocchi have enabled the addition to the proposed arbitration by the words "moral damage" that allowed Mr. Tapie reach 45 million euros extra. In total, Mr. Tapie was awarded a staggering 403 million euros by the Arbitral Tribunal, July 7, 2008.

NEW DOCUMENTS EMBARRASSING

Le Monde also publishes new documents embarrassing to Ms. Lagarde - the Public Prosecutor at the Supreme Court wishes to bring to CJR.
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guveqzero
Inventor and Innovator
05:32 AM on 06/22/2011
The IMF is a banker's world government. It's not going to last long without the support of the people. It should have been given a charter to promote employment rather than banker's profits.
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Marchmont
04:27 AM on 06/22/2011
Christine Lagarde, the French front-runner in the race for top job in the IMF has two things going for her: she spent most of her career in the US and she is not Gordon Brown. Yet it would be astonishing if one the major architects of the punitive and ineffective bailouts in Greece, Ireland and Portugal, should find herself at the helm of the IMF. Though an haute-bourgeoisie aesthete would be a relief after that seedy libertine Strauss-Kahn, she too is involved in scandal involving Sarkozy’s sleazy financial backers. After the Strauss-Kahn fiasco, the IMF may be embarking on a Lagarde debacle and it should surely look for a replacement in the fabulous talent pool lying outside Europe.
shylove2
warfare state is pathological
07:59 PM on 06/21/2011
It seem to me it was the world financial institutions that caused this problem to begin with by their deceptive and speculative virtual schemes... It could be this was intentional just to destroy the remaining social programs in favor of the vulture capitalistic ways of the free marklet and the non-free market of invading countries to secure scarce resources in a Might Makes Right sort of way... as such international law seems to be in abeyance these days and so does multi-national business ethics...
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Epilef2000
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04:48 PM on 06/21/2011
its interesting to note that as a collective group, there are more non-European countries who consistently vote in a regular candidate who, by coincidence, has always been European. Now, with the EU bailouts, there is not conflict of interest once so ever...
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eden4barack08
Yes WE can!!!
03:15 PM on 06/21/2011
I really, really like and admire and approve of this woman for next IMF Chief. I sure hope she gets it.
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Epilef2000
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04:44 PM on 06/21/2011
the unwritten rule is that the World Bank is lead by the US and the IMF by Europe. When Kahn stepped down, she was already being claimed as the next IMF leader..if she doesn't get it..I would be flabbergasted
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06:51 AM on 06/22/2011
Meh, reading this interview she has said nothing spectacular or different or new.
Peabodies
We are the Many. They are the Few.
02:55 PM on 06/21/2011
Ms. Lagarde and her former fellow students at the University of Chicago could use a little monetary history before taking the helm of the IMF:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ann-pettifor/greece-drachma-crisis_b_881188.html
01:10 PM on 06/21/2011
The IMF should not exist. Any financial organization that has such a wide global economic and political reach should not be allowed to exist by its victims. Let each continent have its own central bank that would deal with the nations within. To give the U.S. Treasury the world-wide clout that it now has via the IMF is just wrong.
Peabodies
We are the Many. They are the Few.
02:39 PM on 06/21/2011
I agree with you about the IMF, but not on the notion of continent-wide "Central Banks"-- they would become mini-IMFs.