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Out of the Woodwork

Posted: 06/ 2/11 10:23 AM ET

For most, deciding to separate is no easy feat, especially if children are involved. The process of making this tremendous decision is usually predicated by months or even years of therapy, soul searching, self doubt and anxiety. Typically, this agonizing process of deciding whether to split up takes place in private. Perhaps a few close friends, family members or a therapist know that the couple is struggling. But, for the most part, the couple usually presents to the outside world as if it's all good (or good enough) on the marriage front.

One of the biggest concerns that I hear about as a therapist relates to how one's community will respond if a couple decides to divorce. A forty year old mother of two worries:

Our neighborhood friends are central to our lives. I worry constantly about what our community will think. How will they respond? Will our children be ostracized? As a woman who wants to leave, I fear I am defying a stereotype and will be forever rejected by our friends. This fear alone has kept me in a miserable marriage for longer than I want to admit.

Her concerns are surprisingly common, and well-founded. Friendships do change following a divorce, and both adults and children are impacted by these changes.

And yet, when unhappily married couples finally separate, something interesting and unexpected tends to happen. I call it divorce's "out of the woodwork" phenomenon in which closeted unhappily married friends who have been pretending to be happily married come of the woodwork and want to talk.

A forty five year old father of four sums it up perfectly:

It's crazy. I thought everyone I knew was happily married. So much so that I hated the idea of being the odd one out almost as much as I hated the idea of divorcing. The response of family and friends was one of my biggest fears. Yes, it's been incredibly difficult. But never in a million years did I expect so many secretly unhappily married people to reach out to me to try to get information about what a separation is really like. I'm like the newly appointed ambassador of a secret society.

Divorce's "out of the woodwork" phenomenon is relevant for a couple of reasons:

  • It demonstrates how taboo divorce remains in our society. (Maybe this is why the Divorce section of Huffington Post is so popular -- it gives those who are divorced, divorcing, or considering a divorce a place to go. It provides an open forum on a taboo topic that was almost non-existent before its creation.)
  • If more couples debating the question of a separation knew how many others were likely to reach out to them to discuss their marriages, it might help people feel less isolated or alone. It might help others worry less about what others might think and free up more energy to focus more on the inner workings of their marriage and whether it is salvageable.

My advice? If you are struggling with the question of whether to separate, try to keep your concerns about what others might think to a minimum. Obviously, none of us can operate in total isolation from others, but what matters most is you, your spouse, your children, and what, if anything can possibly be done to save your marriage. If it is not salvageable, people you would never expect are going to come out of the woodwork, applaud your choice, and want to hear all about it. (Some of these people will get on your nerves, others will be comforting.) Some friends and family members will come through for you in ways above and beyond your expectations. Others in your community will not be able to handle the fact that you are divorcing, and they will pull away. This is likely more about them than it is about you. Perhaps your experience brings up memories for them of their own parents' divorce. Or maybe it brings up feelings about the vulnerability of their own marriage. Or maybe they just need some time to adjust. Even if it hurts, it is quite possible that they will come around. If not, it is ultimately worth knowing who your true friends really are.

Elisabeth Joy LaMotte's book, Overcoming Your Parents' Divorce: 5 Steps to a Happy Relationship, was a finalist in the 2008 National Best Book Awards in the Relationship category.

 
 
 

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For most, deciding to separate is no easy feat, especially if children are involved. The process of making this tremendous decision is usually predicated by months or even years of therapy, soul sear...
For most, deciding to separate is no easy feat, especially if children are involved. The process of making this tremendous decision is usually predicated by months or even years of therapy, soul sear...
 
 
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Martha L. Wellington
01:08 PM on 06/06/2011
Elisabeth LaMotte underscores the importance of believing in yourself, and doing what you truly believe is right for you and your children. Excellent and thoughtful blog!
01:33 AM on 06/06/2011
just hurt the kids more when you seperate ...so sad
09:43 AM on 06/06/2011
hurt the kids more? This article wasn't about "the kids" .

my children are better people because we taught them about honesty. My ex and I NEVER let our differences become theirs. That's the difference. But I can rest my head at night knowing that they know we never lied to them - and that love for them doesn't leave because we chose to realize the truth about our partnership.

I wish and hope for every person anguishing about their unhappiness, that they choose the truth.

Maybe then the Ashley Madison websites of the worlds will not be necessary.

Ugh.
09:55 AM on 06/06/2011
divorce can be worse than the death of a parent to a child....some studies have found overall for divorce to be more damaging, but i suspect it depends very much on individual cases. for a child to know that his ignoble single mom intentionally and greedily chased away his dad, or her once dedicated father ignores her (in favor of some new girlfriend?), or knows his selfish dad sends 5 dollars on his birthday and otherwise could not care less (Everclear- Father of Mine), or that her mom went to the beach and is now shacking up with a carny instead of returning to her and her kind, hard-working (dull) dad...and these are all based on real life situations in which i have been involved as a professional....these are brutal. " i would do anything for you" " i will love you always" "nothing is more important to me" "all i want is for you to have a better life than mine" not to mention the wedding vows. when these proclamation made to kids are mocked, guess what?
11:44 AM on 06/05/2011
She is discussing how "SOME PEOPLE" face inner conflict and find they are not alone. Geez, people get over yourselves.
09:44 AM on 06/06/2011
Thank you for getting it. I am a very loving parent, with an amazing ex - we have raised 2 very successful loving kids.

Tight knit - in its very own special way. Wake up people.
11:24 AM on 06/05/2011
People change, no way to predict change under the best marriage agreement possible! An EPIDEMIC; unhappily married people out there causing a huge movement of going outside the contract. I am floored how easily people toss the contract out the window when they reach their saturation point, its described as "whats missing". Ive heard it: I love my wife but not in love with her. The marriage gets tossed aside like a chewed up piece of gum! For sex or a connection so desperately needed? Truth: what do you do when gum loses its flavor? Marriage, much like a stick of gum, gets stale. People are going to websites like Ashley Madison and Craigslist. A place that advertises affairs! The darkest of human crisis where conflict meets desire for a hook up! It isn't just sex. People want a connection. Times are changing and if we want a world full of Ashley Madison hook up sites for Affairs, then lets keep suppressing the natural evolution of our beings. Not all marriages will last, its not a contest or a shameful failure. Love is beyond anything we humans can structure and it gets complicated when our directions and desires change.Do you keep chewing the gum once it lost all its flavor? Does love exist in a contract, has marriage become an endurance game? Marriage is about 2 people growing separately, together. Its not an endurance game of how long can one chew a bland piece of gum before you die.
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AZLibDem
If you're speeding, you're an "illegal"
11:49 PM on 06/05/2011
"Love is beyond anything we humans can structure and it gets complicate­d when our directions and desires change.Do you keep chewing the gum once it lost all its flavor?"

So, when your child asks "will you ever stop loving me?", will you say, "not if my desires change"?
09:08 AM on 06/06/2011
Let me clarify, please.

We are talking about adults here, not our relationships with our children.

So, lets bring the kids into it for a moment. So its better to fake our children out by lying, cheating and not being honest to be happy. Its ok to put on a show that mommy and daddy are happy based on alll the love they feel in their relationship with each other - but so many choose to lie to their spouse in order to "be happy".

Im not saying everybody feels this way, I am simply directing the opinion to the idea that the article talks about the inner conflict ADULTS feel in their ADULT relationships - and how that MORAL COMPASS plays out in their marriages. Staying together for the kids ... when there is tremendous conflict is toxic. That's better ? Kids aren't stupid - yet we treat them like they are. Lets put on a big show of what love and marriage reeeally is so when they grow up they can be just like us.

One word: WOW.
09:59 AM on 06/06/2011
Love is beyond most everything. Sex is a drug. push the lever. get a pellet.
10:34 AM on 06/05/2011
Perhaps an overhaul to wedding vows would help make the serious hurt divorce causes to both parties, the families, and any children involved more tolerable while making the whole thing socially acceptable; "better or worse, sickness and health, richer or poorer, and until death do us part" could simply be changed to "until I change my mind." This would alleviate the need for people to have to actually demonstrate the integrity of honoring their commitment and set aside their own selfish conceit, ignoring the fact that they are now or have created something larger and more important than themselves. This simple change would also eliminate the need to make better decisions in the first place.
09:53 AM on 06/06/2011
Sometimes things grow bigger than themselves for the purpose of growing more. Ever think of that? Conceit? So basically you're saying shut ourself down so others can grow and learn, even if you find yourself feeling differently as you did before.

I believe in legacy, in so far as you can pass down patterns of inauthenticity. We aren't machines for goodness sake - everyone is here to find purpose and meaning. No one has the right to judge anyone else. That is the point. Period.

There would be less intimidation if people didn't shove their moral beliefs down other peoples throats. Then people wouldn't feel ashamed of their feelings.

GET IT? Good for you if your moral compass has you in tact and keeping it real. That's what this whole article is about.
01:07 PM on 06/06/2011
How is having the integrity to actually stand by your word, honor your commitment, and honor the instution to which you have subscribed and pledged your belief in "shoving it down people's throats?" You have illustrated my point precisely - changing that which has to do with the actual commitment aspect to simply promising to commit "until I change my mind" would afford everyone the easy out you seem to suggest. And, yes, conceit is actually believing you are bigger and more important than the situation you have created. So, you want to advocate for people who cannot pause long enough to see past their own selfish belief that everyone else's needs are far less important, despite ruined credit, ruined homes, shattered lives, heartbroken kids - but who will advocate for the children? The 4, 5, and 6 year olds who are being handed the short end of the stick and do not understand why - all because mommy doesn't think daddy is very romantic any more? Perhaps we shouldn't more carefully consider our decisions PRIOR to committing to marriage so that we can degrade the institution, as you suggest, to "feeling differently as you did before." I sort of thought the whole idea of a committment was that, yes, people WILL and DO change, but the "better or worse" part sort of means you'll do it TOGETHER. No one is talking about inauthenticity - it's being accepting of the other's genuine authenticity because you said you would. GET IT?
09:55 AM on 06/05/2011
My first hand experience with divorce and a second long term relation with my fiance that has left me heart broken. Marriage and relations have become a throw away item. common as our e waste. We don't fix it, toss it away and get a new one. No one wants to here your divorce story but will be quick the throw in a comment of some sort, but do not really want to hear yet another divorce war story.
I have two children from the first and one from the second. I wish I set a better example. Marriage is just not sacred anymore. I don't see as many people getting married. Maybe it is just me?
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frank1946
Tell the Truth
07:53 AM on 06/05/2011
Marriage SHOULD be a five year renewable Lease, renegotiated with Vigor and Skill !

Everyone would be Happier as a result !

Except the Attorney's !
10:47 AM on 06/05/2011
Ridiculous. My wife would -- quite rightly -- toss me out on my ear if I ever expressed such a sentiment. I'm committed to her, and our kids, for life. That's what makes us stable, what makes us a family. Souls knitted together.
09:11 AM on 06/06/2011
Youre one of the fortunate ones.

I am very curious if you have ever ever done anything ( behind your ear tossing wifes back) that she might not only toss you out for, but all your clothing would follow. ???

I am all about tight knit and finding that kind of love. Please share more.
05:25 AM on 06/05/2011
To want something soo bad, the wedding song, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pgs5TiMSjro
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MirageRF
01:15 AM on 06/05/2011
I have been treated like a leper since being separated/divorced. No one wants to be exposed to the reality that their soulmates could dump them without notice.
It seems that women often have the support of their network of friends. Men only have their business associates, if that.
My marriage was unhealthy for me. But divorce may be fatal. There have been no winners this day.
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SaraKay Smullens
07:34 AM on 06/05/2011
This is such an important blog. I well know that the suffering many express can be helped so much by finding a professional to consult. From there a few people who understand, who you can really trust as friends, can be found. This will make all of the difference. I respect Elisabeth's hard won insights; and hope those who are suffering will use them to reach out to find those who can be trusted.
10:45 AM on 06/05/2011
Brilliant observation, Mirage. Thank you for sharing that painful truth. It's a phenomenon few people predict before they climb aboard the divorce-go-round. No winners is exactly correct. Wish you all the best as you try to recover. I think there's a good reason men are so quick to remarry after divorce: They simply fare better with the social network that comes with having a wife.
08:28 PM on 06/04/2011
I am in my 17th year of having gotten the divorce... The ramifications still linger.. I must fight daily with myself to keep my chin up and resist submitting to depression.. However I must say that this is the exact feeling I had BEFORE the divorce.. I could see that I was never to be the one she could be in love with, whatever damage I had contributed to was now to be an eternal sentiment and furthermore, she was mad at herself as well for ending up with the wrong guy. But I digress... the children, the friends and relatives do, in fact end up taking sides. No one of this time frame comes to your defense during the process,either to lift YOU up or the marriage itself. I found that the therapists ain your immediate financial reach are as sick in thier own relationships as you are, so you end up with the blind leading the paraplegics.. My final offering is this.Get a life of your own and if you find a cause or a talent or an opportunity to move forward in ANY progressive manner.... Treasure it.. nurse it.. and when you feel it is not worth the effort, remind yourself that this is a lie and that long term.. it is worth it. Just like life itself is worth it. Death when it is YOUR choice will be worst than all these preceding days.
05:15 AM on 06/05/2011
Yeah, we all once heard the wedding song, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pgs5TiMSjro
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ddegen76
10:18 AM on 06/05/2011
Not too bitter Olderblue! And dissuading people from seeking the comfort, direction and support therapy can provide? Rake out the weeds people....this one is a real stinker!
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ivyteainn
05:43 PM on 06/04/2011
The only question that a person needs to ask is "will this make my life better"? Forget about the people next door or your relatives....its your life, not theirs.If they don't like it, the hell with them. People get too caught up worrying about what others think. Do what is right for you! I came from a family where the parents DID stay together because of religion and custom...and I had a miserable awlful childhood that I would never wish on anyone. Don't stay together because of the kids and bring them down when you're mierable. Children need to be raised in a POSTIVE environment.
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AZLibDem
If you're speeding, you're an "illegal"
12:08 PM on 06/04/2011
"Others in your community will not be able to handle the fact that you are divorcing, and they will pull away. This is likely more about them than it is about you."

No, it's about you.
01:39 PM on 06/04/2011
Handle the fact ? That fact would be why you are divorcing - not that you are divorcing. It took me around two weeks being alone and sad about the separation before overwhelming joy took its place. My daughter felt the same way.
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blarneydude
I can handle the truth. Now let's talk about you.
03:39 PM on 06/04/2011
Yes, It is indeed about you. You are confident, you are making a move to make your life better, they wish they had the guts, and it scares them and now they find it uncomfortable being around someone in control of life rather than the other way around.

Which...um, means yes, it's about them.
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AZLibDem
If you're speeding, you're an "illegal"
06:04 PM on 06/04/2011
Confident? By quitting? OK.
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psnyder325
Yep, I'm a Socialist. Deal.
11:47 AM on 06/04/2011
I see many of the articles in this section seeing divorce as the norm, and a lasting marriage as the exception. I've been divorced a couple of times. Each time it left deep scars on my soul. I wish I'd met my current wife years ago, as our marriage, while it has its ups and downs, is solid. But it is solid because we refuse to let it be anything other than solid. If people go into marriage with the attitude that they can just divorce if things don't work out, then they WILL get divorced, sooner or later. If it is seen as the norm in your circle, it WILL hit your marriage, too. While it is important to support people through a divorce, and not discard them, it is also important to make sure you surround yourself with friends who take their marriages seriously and are working at them.
01:41 PM on 06/04/2011
Currently over 50% of marriages are ending in divorce..A good reason to be certain that you really want to be married before you do it..
02:19 PM on 06/04/2011
You are so right. And thank you for saying it. The problem is never the marriage, but two people that decide to take the easy way out. As they say, the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. Statistically, the fastest way for a woman and child to become impoverished is through divorce. And the problem with impoverished families is that the government (that happens to be you and me) has to pick up the tab. It makes no sense for our government to make it so easy to break a contract as in divorce. If you have a breach of contract in a business dealing, it is going to cost you money. But when it comes to something as serious as divorce, we couldn't care less. No wonder our country is heading in the direction that it is heading in.
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BillZBubb
Cogito ergo sum. Cogito.
11:59 PM on 06/04/2011
Your comment is one huge contradiction: "the fastest way ...to become impoverished is through divorce" vs. "if you have a breach of contract..., it is going to cost you money".

So, for many divorce, like other contractural problems does cost money.

As far as the direction of the country, that has very little to do with divorce.
11:08 AM on 06/04/2011
This is not a constructive article. It encourages the lazy chicken way out.
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chucknchar
11:52 PM on 06/04/2011
How about an article about identiyfing the lazy chicken beofre they lay wast e to your life and to your family unit
09:52 AM on 06/04/2011
I have recently separated from my husband and I too have had friends coming out of the woodwork to ask me lots of questions. What is the process like? How are the kids adjusting? What is it like being in the house by yourself? How are you dealing the finances (which seems to be a major concern for most)? What is it like to start dating again in your 40s? Because I have been extremely pleased with my decision to separate, my responses have been mostly positive. So much so, that one of my close friends has recently asked her husband for a divorce. My friends husband then said to her, "This all happened because you started to hang out with HER!"

The fall out of course has been that some of my friends husbands has discouraged their wives friendships with me. Although I am about encouraging my friends to stand in their own power, I would NEVER encourage someone to leave their husband. That is their own decision based on their own experiences and their own lives. Instead I am a sounding board and an alternative way to look at their situation.

This decision is a back and forth one. When my friends are one foot out the door, I become a confidant, when they are back in, I stop getting phone calls. I have accepted this as part of the process and I am always here to help encourage and support whatever decision they make.
01:59 PM on 06/04/2011
I think it's wonderful you are the Patient Zero of divorce in your circle of friends.
10:34 AM on 06/05/2011
Misery loves company. You are actively destroying the lives of your friends' families, and seem to be proud of it. Very sad.