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Why We Don't Need a Second 'War on Poverty' (At Least Not Now)

Posted: 01/15/2013 12:23 pm

There are a lot of people suffering right now. Poverty in the U.S. is at a 20-year high, with 46.2 million Americans living below the poverty line (earning less than $11,170 for an individual, or below $23,050 for a family of four). Conditions are even worse among African-American and Latino children, of whom one in three lives in poverty. Along with this economic hardship comes hunger, homelessness, instability, illness and day-to-day challenges that most of us cannot imagine. Nevertheless, we hear very little about the struggles of America's poor in campaign speeches and policy debates -- or, most notably, from our president.

Like those before him, President Obama enjoys one of the perennial perks of the office: a bully pulpit from which to focus the nation's attention on the most pressing problems of his people. Many thought that alleviating poverty would be an explicit priority for our 44th president, a former community organizer, our nation's first black president and a self-declared "lifelong advocate for the poor," but it was not. Now, with a second term, President Obama has another opportunity to advance the issue of poverty on the political agenda. Many are calling on him to do so. But he should not.

Now is not the time to undertake a second "war on poverty," despite the depth of need and suffering. Focusing on the 15 percent of Americans living in poverty could simply fuel conflict and resentment between those on each side of the poverty line. In fact, the potential for backlash is particularly high at a time like this, when the nation is focused on scarcity, debt and uncertainty and polarized by conflicting notions of the role of government.

Most importantly, there is absolutely no need to incite an "us vs. them" dynamic between poor and middle-class Americans. Instead, these two groups must join together in shared outrage at the limited opportunities for social mobility in this country. There are simply not enough ways to move up and far too many ways to fall down. More can be accomplished -- for the poor and for everyone -- by focusing instead on how our broken ladder of opportunity and shredded safety net make it so hard to rise out of poverty and beyond the middle class.

This is the cross-cutting problem that President Obama should (and seems likely to) tackle in his second term. It does not require a national discourse on poverty but a shift in attention away from disadvantage toward an examination of the concentrated advantages provided to those already flourishing in our society. It then becomes clear that it is not only poverty but inequality -- of income, economic growth and political influence -- that plagues the poor.

In a country so unequal, the distance to travel from poor to rich is very far, and the road is hard. Making this road easier requires repairing each rung of the ladder of opportunity that spans this vast distance. This requires -- as the president often states -- allowing "all Americans to grab the first rung on the ladder to the middle class." But that is not enough. We must also bring each subsequent rung closer to the last.

When we frame the problem as one of concentrated advantage at the top rather than as one of disadvantage at the bottom, we can identify a broader set of policy solutions. It is here, in debates over the fiscal cliff, monetary policy, health reform, hidden tax expenditures, union protections and campaign finance reform, that the ladder of opportunity will get repaired -- or further dismantled.

It is on these "non-poverty" issues that President Obama has spent much of his first term -- and is likely to devote his second term. As a result, his legacy will not be as a president who waged a second "war on poverty" but as one who made the ladder of opportunity a little sturdier and more structurally sound.

Of course, the problem is that slowing the cycle of concentrated advantage is a messy business. Many of the policies fueling the concentration of advantage are hidden from view -- part of the "submerged state" -- fiercely defended by those who benefit from them and poorly understood by everyone else. Even small changes are hard-fought, leaving the president's political capital depleted and his powerful opponents further mobilized to defend their advantage in the next round of the policy fight. Politically, there is very little for the president to gain by choosing to fight on this battlefield, but there is so much that could be lost if he surrenders.

This blog post is part of a series produced by The Huffington Post and the George Washington University that closely examines the most pressing challenges facing President Obama in his second term. To read the companion article by HuffPost's Sabrina Siddiqui and Tom Zeller, Jr., click here. To read the companion blog post by David Beckmann of Bread for the World, click here. To read all the other posts in the series, click here.

 
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There are a lot of people suffering right now. Poverty in the U.S. is at a 20-year high, with 46.2 million Americans living below the poverty line (earning less than $11,170 for an individual, or bel...
There are a lot of people suffering right now. Poverty in the U.S. is at a 20-year high, with 46.2 million Americans living below the poverty line (earning less than $11,170 for an individual, or bel...
 
 
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JimBobPete
If "less is more", is more worth less?
04:22 AM on 01/17/2013
Oh, what lack of empathy for OUR poor fellow citizens. A typical elitist view. People are poor because they DESERVE to be poor. Why throw a lifeline to a drowning person, - he shouldn't be in the water in the first place. The most important virtue, GENEROSITY, is missing here.! What's left is confusion and no clarity of thought. Leaves me cold.!
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Sherrie Heckendorn
02:19 AM on 01/17/2013
I almost didn't read this, but was glad i did. Inequality of wealth drives the rate of poverty, and if we make changes to that and at the same time strengthen the safety net programs and set in place training for the new job market. Also at the same time, we need to institute cap on CEO pay and tie it to lowest employee pay(this is already happening in Sweden) with no more than 20 times (now 350 to 700 times), thus freeing up the money needed to pay livable wages. Of course this is all common sense, so we know that won't happen here
12:22 AM on 01/17/2013
Can we ever reverse the policies that concentrate advantage? As determined as the uber-wealthy are to defend them?
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Sherrie Heckendorn
02:20 AM on 01/17/2013
@live4ward We have done this twice before, in the late 60's and again in the late 30's to early 40's, and i think we can do it again. Just wish it didn't have to seem like a cycle that can't be broken
01:06 AM on 01/21/2013
That is encouraging Sherrie. And maybe it's an inevitable result of human nature to periodic course correction.
05:21 PM on 01/16/2013
War on poverty? We ARE poverty.
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huffington1z
04:29 PM on 01/16/2013
Ms. Rigby speaks of the ladder to the middle class. The two biggest determinants in living in poverty are failure to graduate high school and out of wedlock children. Ms. Rigby knows this, but as always, these 2 simple things are not mentioned. She also mentions income numbers for poverty. It would be more informative if she also provided that food and housing assistance are not part of those numbers, something few people know. Studies of living standards of those listed in poverty show that many of these people have similar possesions and more surprisingly have monthly costs associated with cell phones, cable, eating prepared foods, whether take out or in restaurants, and significant intake of expensive, hollow calories such as snacks and flavored drinks. It should be a wake up call that our out of wedlock birth rates have skyrocketed, more often than not resulting in poverty. Maybe a look at how programs encourage this destructive behavior is in order. And based on the living standards of those listed in poverty, a much better measurement would be the local crime rate.
02:07 PM on 01/16/2013
There are many economic misconceptions being promoted by the status quo; Until we recognize and accept that the "poor will always be with us" and focus on improving their lives in the state which they are currently exist in by upholding their equal rights in the law and ownership of public property; instead of lifting them out of something called material poverty; we will never move forward to a more perfect union. If everyone on earth was a genius or Phd: We would still have to sweep and mop floors; cook or prepare and serve our meals; wash our dirty clothes; etc; etc; or pay someone else to do it for us. In the private sector the mastercraftsman should make more than the journeyman, and the journeyman should make more than the unskilled laborer: But in no way should the unskilled laborer be demeaned or disrespected in the public sector by legal inequality. Respect for every honest job and person no matter how much material substance they control is what we are lacking. Treating people equally, with simple decency, and understanding the fact that we need unity and coordinated action to overcome the people who work 24/7 to create the hell on earth we live in; would do more to fix the problems of society than anything else.
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nkurland
I'm going to leave this planet alive
12:49 PM on 01/16/2013
Elizabeth, its impossible to separate poverty from the issue of income inequality and in turn, that issue from the lack of demand holding back recovery. They're all interconnected.

The upcoming deficit debate will effectively be a debate over the role of the federal government, particularly regarding antipoverty programs. It only makes sense to use this opportunity to lay out a genuine alternative for the future, with an emphasis on promoting full employment, that effectively addresses the causes of our economic woes.

The point is, the major economic debates can't be viewed in a vacuum. We're now at a point where a full third of the population lives at or below 200% of the poverty level and needless to say, they're incapable of meaningful participation in the economy. We're squandering human talent and creating a drag on growth by maintaining a system that excludes so many people.
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katiec1963
03:57 PM on 01/16/2013
We also must concern ourselves with the question of whether the economy needs full employment, at least as wage worthy work is now defined.

There's growing evident that robots and AI really are producing more leisure time. we can either embrace this, or we can just let leisure become poverty.
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Y Woodman Brown
live & let live
12:01 PM on 01/16/2013
Elizabeth,

Please consider resigning your post. Quite obviously, you've lost the faith. Public policy is all about progress, an individual who simply supports the status quo has really just given-up.

You advocate no action on poverty...due to political backlash. You say it isn't the right time. Do you imagine that by taking no action, America's long neglected poverty problem won't get worse?

What evidence have you for a future where the current income gap grows smaller? Realize that there will not be a 'right time' next year or for the next president. The number of Americans living in poverty will continue to worsen and the degree of their poverty will become more desperate.

Politically, the plutocrats aren't going to go away. Wall Street executives already gift themselves with bonuses far exceeding those given themselves prior to this Great Recession. The GOP isn't about to make an about-face and begin championing the needs of that 47% of us whose income is so low we don't even qualify to pay federal income tax.

Taking action to mitigate poverty will always be a political hot potato. Yes, it would be much less frustrating to take-on this issue at a time when both chambers of Congress are solidly democratic. But what progressive issue wouldn't be? and is that really reason enough to stop governing in the interests of the people?
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William Graham
Librarian, botanist, and programmer
11:41 AM on 01/16/2013
There is a fire. Do you pour water on it? Or gasoline? Imagine a machine.

The machine flows more fuel when the machine gets hot. A second machine flows more fuel when the machine gets cold. Adding fuel to a fire makes it hotter. Adding water to a fire makes it colder. If, the hotter a fire gets, the more fuel is added, we have POSITIVE feedback. If, the hotter a fire gets, the more water is added, we have NEGATIVE feedback. There are variations, as you can imagine, and there are more and less as well as all and none.

Our capitalist economy does have some problems that only a government can solve. In fact the economy flies into pieces from time to time (Lynx and Hare boom-bust problem), creates impossibilities (most monopolies), and creates unfairness (King of Mountain/No Room at the Top problem). But it has many advantages over a "pretend to work/pretend to be paid" economy.

But capitalism's main problem is the "it can be manipulated" problem. We see market manipulation in lobbying and with practice in larger, more resourced, businesses. So, it can be manipulated, but it requires reigning in, too. This is a setup for political fluctuation and deal-cutting. It requires cooperation and compromise, or it does not work and the country suffers. The Tea Party either is using this to damage the economy or the Tea Party does not understand why a half-parliamentary system is unworkable.
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Liberals Are Intolerant
fiscal conservative, social libertarian
11:22 AM on 01/16/2013
We have convinced two entire generations that you can live a more comfortable lifestyle on welfare, medicaid, public housing, and food stamps, than you can by working a low or unskilled job. During the same period, we allowed 10M illegal aliens to flood across the border, most of whom are low/unskilled laborers. Ted Kennedy rigged the legal immigration system to force us to take 3 or 4 impoverished immigrants before we take educated ones. I wonder why the mean wage for unskilled labor has not risen? Hmm...

Then we fill the city schools with teachers who cannot be fired unless they literally stop showing up or commit a felony. We allow the illegal drug trade to present the only opportunity for young people to accumulate wealth. The democrats have been in charge of the major cities for the vast majority of the last 30 years. This is their legacy and it is a miserable failure.
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Randy M Still
read Still Life on amazon.com
01:11 PM on 01/16/2013
Have you ever worked for min wage? Have you ever applied for or rec'd public assistance in any form? TANF, FS SSA SSI? Do you know how little these people are forced to exist on? You honestly believe the government encourages sloth? I work for the welfare dept and I believe most of our clients are serious about wanting a job that will help them out of poverty. But when you are a single mom with 2-3 children, a min wage job (which is all most of these women can hope to get anytime soon) is not sufficient to pull you out of poverty. In addition most of these jobs do not provide health care coverage, so you are more inclined to stay on public help for the health benefits alone. Yet, your group would rather fight than talk about a livable wage, the concept whereby wealthy corporations - like Wal Mart, whose lucky inheritors are billionaires several times over, holding the same wealth as the bottom 40% of US population - are allowed to pay most workers at or immediately above min wage even after years of continuous employment. This requires that parents working for Wal Mart apply and receive government assistance in order to merely survive, which means the government subsidizes low-pay and greater profit for the already profit-drowned Walton family. Any of this make sense to you? Dont believe you know the answers to the problems the poor face until you have actually been there.
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Liberals Are Intolerant
fiscal conservative, social libertarian
04:01 PM on 01/16/2013
I respect that you work in social services. That being said...
I have worked for LESS than minimum wage during high school, at an amusement park.
I have a patented product in Walmart that has sold millions for my employer.  It pays my bills.   Believe me, if you forced them to pay $15/hr, then all the prices in the store would rise accordingly.  Same with all other retail.  Our sales would go down.  We would lay off here.  We need to let the free market do its job and set prices, not artificially fix them.  
Look what happened when restaurants had to start implementing obamacare.  Darden tried to raise prices, and even a $1-2 price increase failed miserably.  Imagine that across the entire economy, which is already struggling.  You would see actually less min. wage jobs available.  
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katiec1963
04:03 PM on 01/16/2013
Ever wonder why the big banks have stopped investing in industry? Because they make more money off of investing in financial products and currency arbitrage.

You might google "falling rate of return" -- that's where the profits off of producing goods falls relative to the price it costs to produce them. And it's cheaper to hire robots and computers than to pay even minimum wages.

So what to do about the fact that only a portion of the population is needed to produce goods for the total population?

You're confusing money tokens with real wealth in so many ways.
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SnowOwlFan
09:49 AM on 01/16/2013
The Chicago public school system was recently compelled to disclose some of the applications they approved for free school lunches. Analysis of those applications shows a 70% rate of fraud. More people were receiving school lunches fraudulently than had a legitimate need for them, including many children of teachers and school administrators.

If we were going to have a national conversation on poverty, as Ms. Rigby suggests, we should begin by analyzing every application for benefits. I expect that we would find that the same 70% rate would apply. Fraud is so much a part of the "poverty racket" that Ms. Rigby's 46.2 million figure probably represents an actual 13.9 million Americans who need and are eligible for help. The money spent on poverty could easily provide for these people if it wasn't already supporting a bloated army of corrupt civil servants, frauds, and cheats.
11:24 AM on 01/16/2013
This fraud was conspiratorial fraud on the part of school administrators in Chicago. That does not invalidate the entire program any more than AIG invalidates all insurance companies or Bernie Madoff invalidates all investment brokers. Fraud is a part of all government programs (not just poverty programs), but that does not mean that the programs should be canceled. But to analyze every applicant the way you want jwould require an army of bureaucrats. Which to you want? More civil servants and more enforcement or less civil servants and less enforcement?

The 46.2 million figure is not in dispute. There are 16 million children in poverty -- the second highest rate of the industrialized world (only Romania is higher.) Is your suggestion to ignore it?
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Robert Ponce
"Blind Justice"
09:45 AM on 01/16/2013
" Conditions are even worse among African-American and Latino children," -- As long as there are people espousing derisive babbling, hatred, bigotry, favoritism and all those demonic attributes, poverty is here to stay. The perennial exclamation, "If you work hard in America, you can achieve your dreams", is bathetic at best, but nevertheless misleading. This planet produces more than enough for every living thing crawling over its face. But men have devised was to stifle their brothers into submission. The plain truth on the matter is, if the government was truly serious about "We The People", We wouldn't be forced to witness this repetitive play of political polemics.
09:22 AM on 01/16/2013
The idea that wars can be waged on societal failures has been, is, and will always be ridiculous and futile.

Poverty is not an enemy, it's a social illness and like all illnesses the cure is research, education, and determining ways of preventing and curing. Poverty results when wages aren't high enough, when education and/or training isn't strong enough and when selfishness and greed override decency and real patriotism.
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Randy M Still
read Still Life on amazon.com
01:48 PM on 01/16/2013
You got to the gist of it toward the end - poverty is a side-effect of GREED. Plain and simple. When Wal Mart heirs who own the same amount of wealth as the 40% of Americans at the bottom of the income distribution and are allowed to pay workers near min wage for years of continual employment, while those same workers rely on government programs, Food Stamps etc, in order to merely survive while working and make more profits for the mighty Wal Mart. And its not Wal Mart alone - the major hotel chains - I mean the luxury hotels, hire only min wage for the clean-up crews. Is it any wonder those people have a terrible reputation when it comes to thefts from hotel rooms? These same hotels will charge you $100 plus for a room and yet can only afford to pay min wage for a service that is required for them to stay in business. Also the poor by tradition have little representation since they cant donate money for campaigns and dont often travel to Washington to visit their representatives. They have no voice. Changing things should be fairly simple once the will was obtained to change. We know pretty much where the problem lies - income.
09:19 AM on 01/16/2013
I am sooo tired of hearing people whine about, because they grew up poor, they have no opportunities in life. You can move up to a comfortable living if you work hard. Shocking concept in this age where people want instant wealth and gratification. Life isn't always going to be easy. Sometimes you will have to work 2-3 jobs in order to pay bills and get yourself through school(like i had to do in high school and college). That sound way to hard for you? than enjoy poverty.
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Karl Wilder
Chef Stirring The Pot Harlem
09:47 AM on 01/16/2013
Bull**** the world is filled with hard working people who do work 2 to 3 jobs. They get through school and still can't get a decent paying job. The CEOs have ruined this world and your complacency is what allowed it.
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katiec1963
09:55 AM on 01/16/2013
Meant -- why have banks decided to invest primarily in financial assets, rather than in hard assets -- like real things?
10:12 AM on 01/16/2013
Cry me a river; agree with OP. I had to join the military and risk my life for this country to pay for my education. People need to suck it up, WORK, and better themselves.
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katiec1963
09:53 AM on 01/16/2013
And what impact has the move towards financial capitalism and away from industrial capitalism had on our economy?

And why has it been necessary for the banks to make profits off of investing in financial instruments rather than real assets?
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William Graham
Librarian, botanist, and programmer
11:57 AM on 01/16/2013
Well asked! F&F
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Wayne Caswell
Consumer Advocate & Founder of Modern Health Talk
09:04 AM on 01/16/2013
Poverty decreases our nation's productivity, GDP, and tax revenue, thus affecting wealth creation and the tax burden at the top. At the same time, poverty increases the need for and cost of tax-funded social programs and healthcare. Obesity is a big contributor (excuse the pun), and it's telling that public health officials can reliably estimate average weight and obesity levels by zip code. They have also noticed marked differences in average lifespan between low-income and affluent neighborhoods on opposite sides of the same town. See www.mhealthtalk.com/2012/06/americas-obesity-epidemic-a-big-problem-updated/.