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When Mean Girls Go To Work

Posted: 04/20/10 11:11 AM ET

In February, for the first time in recorded history, women surpassed men in the nation's labor market. Though the numbers have been creeping up for a while, women now comprise the majority of the nation's workforce.

But before I could even raise a glass of champagne, I was faced with the cold reality that maybe it was too soon to celebrate. A recent discussion about leadership and gender with my MBA students made me realize that we haven't thought through the consequences of this new shift in workplace gender ratio.

Last month I asked my "Leadership Out of the Box" class -- the women, the men -- how many would prefer a male manager. Ninety percent of the women raised their hands, and a few of the guys. When I flipped the switch and asked how many would prefer a female manager, a number of men raised their hands, but only one or two women. At that moment I felt like somebody had thrown that celebratory champagne right back in my face.

My students aren't alone. Some studies have also shown that when women think "manager," they're really thinking "MAN-ager." Last year in a survey of 2,000 British women in full or part-time employment, 63 percent said they'd prefer a male over a female boss. According to the research, reported in London's Daily Mail and other media outlets, most felt men were stronger decision makers and better at "steering the ship."

What else might explain why a woman wouldn't want another woman as her boss? It doesn't take Sigmund Freud to figure out that some women go into the workplace looking for a father, especially those who didn't grow up with a strong father figure or male role model. They're looking for more than a mentor at work; they want a daddy, and not a mommy.

In my book, I spell out how this daddy hunger can hamper a woman's workplace success. I've seen women grow too dependent on their male mangers or spend too much time trying to take care of them and protect them, or the male supervisor becomes the ultimate authority, causing them to squelch their own desires and lose their voices. Because women like these can't connect the dots and recognize the psychological roots of how they're relating to their male managers, they can't change the behavior.

Some women think male managers are better at developing the employees that work for them than women. As the thinking goes, women managers, faced with the glass ceiling, have to put all their energy into themselves so they don't have time to build and grow new talent. This taps into some common stereotypes about women in the workplace.

Women, especially white women, are sometimes stereotyped as super competitive, looking out only for number one. Women like these are seen as bright and ambitious but not chummy. Think Queen Bee or even Annie Oakley, a loner battling the frontier with her finger on the trigger. This stereotype is also corporate code for "not a team player," "can't be trusted," "won't watch your back, but will probably stab it."

Black women, up against the twin devils of sexism and racism, are often labeled as "angry." Those who are serious and don't smile all the time end up characterized as Angry Black Women, a stereotype Michelle Obama struggled with early during her husband's campaign. Being branded as an "ABW" is code for "doesn't work well with others," "not a team player," "not a good leader."

Asian women can get caught in the stereotype of passivity, the notion that they don't speak up. Being thoughtful and reflective can look like "low emotional intelligence," "poor communicators," "not leadership material."

One student who preferred a male manager explained that she hadn't been developed by any of the female mentors and managers she'd had over the years for a different reason: Each one had gotten pregnant and left. She said she wanted someone there with her, to develop her in the day-to-do and the long run, not a here-today gone-tomorrow manager.

Point taken. If a female manager gets pregnant, she has to go on maternity leave. She can't power through labor, delivery, recovery, breastfeeding and the start of her baby's life, and then run back to the office in a few days or even weeks -- unlike her male counterpart who can be a new dad without the physical demands of childbearing. But another thought went through my head as I looked at this student: What's going to happen when you want to get pregnant?

Another student put it more bluntly: She said women not only don't take the time to develop other women, they're also not nice. Women, she said, tend to be critical and don't have empathy or compassion. They're the mean girls from middle school all grown up.

One of my male students finally raised his hand and strongly disagreed. He told of a woman manager who took the time to get to know him, supported him and understood and honored his strengths. Several men in the class nodded. The women looked at him with disbelief.

Of course my sample of students is small and, at the end of the day, people are just people, flaws and all, regardless of gender. But this isn't just a fluke. The point remains: As the workplace becomes more feminized and more women rise up the leadership ranks, what's going to happen when the secret is out that many women don't like female bosses? Or, that we don't always play nicely in the sandbox, I mean in the workbox with each other.

How do we help women move past their own stereotypes, conflicts and assumptions about their sisters who are in management positions where they work? And how do we make sure that women aren't so run down by their "second shifts" of family responsibilities or so run over by sexism, that they don't have the time or energy to develop other women?

I doubt that the majority of women in leadership roles today are self-involved Cruella de Vils with daddy issues. Too many women managers are trying too hard to create a level playing field for all women to let the sisterhood die.

Still, as a new generation of women continues to rise in companies across the country and all over the globe we must build relationships with each other across management lines. Wouldn't it be a shame if all the myths about women in the workplace played themselves out? Instead, I hope we can all play nicely and effectively in the company sandbox.

 
 
 
 
 
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11:50 AM on 04/26/2010
I have had one amazing female boss/manager. She understood how to manage and develop her staff.

Otherwise I have had a much better experience with male bosses. The ones I've had have had the ability to communicate more cleanly - express clearly and then let it go; they don't take things personally and they don't hold grudges.

In my last corporate position I watched the men in the office (a manager and his subordinate) get into these intense confrontations, thrash is out, be done with it and then go to lunch together. I have never seen women able to do that.
03:00 PM on 04/21/2010
"daddy hunger" ? this is out of left field and the author doesnt support where this came from as part of the article background.

* Women managers are usually a nightmare to their employees. Who on God's earth would want a female manager ?

1. Women are drama. Emotion influences their decision making. This issue alone has overwhelmingly negative impacts on business and people.

2. Women personalilze everything. It's just business and in alot of cases its not your money its someone elses but they act like its theirs. To spend as they please.

3. Women are petty.

4. Women love to micro-manage.

5. Women subject co-workers and subordinates to their personal emotional distress. If Suzy manager doesnt get laid or her husband doesnt make her happy she stomps into the office and emotionally brutalizes anyone in her path and uses her position as manager to justify it.

6. Women dont think two seconds about firing people or the impact on their families. Men know the value of work and often give the employee a second chance.

I could go on and on but I wont.

For men its just about business. Baseball is personal. Being asked to dinner is personal. Promotions, opportunities etc.. is just business.

My worst experiences have all been with female managers. With one exception. My newest Mgr is female and she's prob the best manager I've ever had.
07:20 PM on 04/21/2010
Women are guilty of some of the characteristics you mention, but men are just as much so. RE: 1 and 5, I've had male managers act the same way, and maybe to a worse degree because men are socialized not to deal with their emotions and sometimes act them out even more unconsciously than women do. I had one male supervisor who had made a mess of his marriage and family and who called me into his office every afternoon for at least half an hour to dump his problems on me. He was totally blind to the fact that it was utterly inappropriate to exploit me as free therapy. I already had an intense workload, and I lost hours every week to his venting, even having to go into paid overtime on the company dime to make it up, and losing personal time that I desperately needed for myself, and he didn't care what it cost me or his employer. I left as soon as I could possibly get another job and wonder if he did it to everyone since. I've also had men micromanage me and I've certainly seen male managers who didn't think at all about the costs to families of laying people off or making them work crazy hours or take pay cuts or concessions they'd never accept for themselves. Frankly, some business situations need to have a little personalization and emotional coloring in order to introduce some compassion.
08:36 AM on 04/22/2010
I'm speaking of my 35 years of employment and 20 years in corporate America. I've had an array of Managers. By and large most men were just business aside from moving secretaries around so they can see pretty women instead of the frumps.

Women on the other hand are highly charged electrons who think they have more power than the nucleus. Like over zealous hall monitors. It's as if nobody listens to them at home so they take out their inefficiencies on their subordinates.

The only thing worse than a female manager is her demotion or transition to a subordinate role. She still thinks she should be the VP and acts as though she is. Its like watching Sunset Strip every single day. Norma Desmond..........we're ready for your close up now.
02:29 PM on 04/21/2010
The truly great managers I've had have all been women. I can think of 4 off the top of my head all thoughtful, brilliant, kind, understanding, helpful, motivating, admirable human beings and role models. Of the worst for managers I've had 2 have been women and two men. The other male managers were average but nothing stellar. I think the problem is gender bias. The female managers are being judged by a very harsh standard. Even when men and women think they're being fair, they really aren't. I would bet any amount of money that if someone designed a social experiment to rule out the possibility of gender bias in judgement, the women would win out.
01:49 PM on 04/21/2010
There are some good female bosses but indeed they are a minority. I think women often lack confidence compare to an equally competant male. Additionally women often use their emotional intelligence the wrong way. They should use it to develop their staff (especially those people they see as struggling). As a 30 year old woman, I am sick and tired of dealing with female work environment that are clickish or when the boss wants to act like your mom. Sometimes I want to tell many female colleagues: "WE DON'T NEED TO BE FRIENDS TO WORK WELL TOGETHER'.
11:27 AM on 04/21/2010
Over the years I had 3 female managers all of them awful. Primary school principal inept, incompetent, clueless, next office manager in a small office extremely controlling, insecure, micro-manager angry all the time. next supervisor in large co. her only talent was her abiltiy to send really nasty emails. which I dreaded opening every day. I'll take a male manager over these broads anytime. Yes, I'm a woman.
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10:21 AM on 04/21/2010
I've worked for both and have no gender preference. What I DO have a strong preference for is someone who is COMPETENT!!! Makes all the difference in the world and is the only thing that really matters.
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09:42 AM on 04/21/2010
I have worked for both genders and prefer males. Back in the 70's I worked for a high powered lawyer who gave me opportunities that no woman boss has ever given me. In fact, when he moved his law firm he chose me over all the other lawyers to go with him. I was not a lawyer either. He would give me very challenging assignments which I had no prior experience in and never doubted I could succeed. He wrote a glowing letter of recommendation for me that was so good, people have hired me on that letter alone!

The females boss was a nightmare. She was wealthy and brilliant but controlling. She dumped every problem she had personally and business wise at my feet to take care of. I did amazing things for her and for her family as well. I even flew to another city to watch her grandchild for her daughter once for a week and she never paid me for the 24/7 hours. When I left, she wouldn't write a recommendation letter that I requested because she said she, "would rather perspective employers call her" but she got alzheimer's and had no memory of who I was.

I lost all of those years being a valuable and instrumental person in her life. She was controlling to the end and since it was my most recent job, I have nothing to show for it now.
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03:57 AM on 04/21/2010
Part of the reason I'm writing this at 3 am instead of sleeping is because of the hatchet job I've had recently from my current female manager. I think it's hard to be a good manager...some just naturally have it, others learn enough to be effective, and others are downright Machiavellian. And it just so happens that out of all the managers that I've ever had, I've only had two good ones, both male. I generally break it down like this...with men, they tend to be more obvious. In a lot of cases you have a chance to see it coming. With women, they are more secretive and scheming. My metaphor is that historically men came with their clubs, the women used poisons and sex to survive, or gain position. And much hasn't changed. What's common to both, especially nowadays, is that neither play nice. There are always exceptions, but unfortunately, I haven't seen many, especially with women.
09:30 PM on 04/20/2010
Women in the workplace (Power Drive)
Good research on this article although I must comment on the male that stated his female manager was patience with him, she was might we say a bit sweet possibly on the lad. The fact that women are really focus on their careers and this is true. The real blame or concern for a better choice of words would be when the earlier entrepreneurs decided to leave the office, hit the golf course making a decision who would fit better running, controling his busines with the less possibility of threat and a take over of his empire, result the women who when paid enough will accept the challenge , staying more committed and dedicated. Whereby the man with big egos will intentionally employ himself inside another man's administration to gain perpective knowledge of certain elements within a structure only to attempt branching off toward his own ideas.
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09:10 PM on 04/20/2010
Having worked for both men and women, and I being a woman, would prefer to work for a man.

Don't get me wrong when I say all men are good managers or directors, they are not......but I
found that women with authority and power seemed to abuse it and be a hard-@ss as if
someone was going to take it away.

I had a woman director who did not have any kids, no husband and clearly her job was her life. She
had no idea how it was for a working woman to arrange babysitting, take time off for sick kids, have
a home and family to care for.........she clearly was only there to further her business career.......she didn't have a clue how to run a PC and absolutely no technical skill, but seemed to have gotten her job through the quota system of putting women in a high position......sad life and I couldn't wait to get out of her office..........with time maybe women will get it........thankfully I'm out of the work force and I don't
have to deal with it..........
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07:24 PM on 04/20/2010
I've had bad bosses of both gender, I am a female, and my overall preference is to work for a male manager/director. I worked for some nasty *#(&%(#*&# that had no compassion nor empathy for their employees. They were unrealistic in their demands, selfish, undermining and downright just pure evil. One of the female director was really surprised one day when a survey was published showing that the vast majority of support staff would rather work for a jerk than someone who was both hot and cold. She could not understand why they would prefer that option, until it was explained to her that at least with the jerk, you know what behaviour to expect.

I work as an executive assistant, so I have a direct relationship with these managers/directors, so I know and see how they treat their subordinates - not pretty.
07:10 PM on 04/20/2010
As a woman manager (and some will say gender traitor! :)) I've got to say I would rather work with and manage men.

A big problem I see from both sides of the fence, as manager and as being managed, as a sweeping generalized statement, it seems to me that women tend to personalize everything too strongly which tends to make them seem emotional and unable to be strong and decisive.

With men you can have a knock down drag out argument over business and then after the meeting you can go to lunch or out for a drink together and there are no hard feelings on either side.

Women on the other hand seem to tend to view any disagreement as a direct attack on their personal character. And they will carry a grudge to the grave but will never really let you know what it is that you've done that they see as a great personal injustice.

In defense of women on the other hand, some or maybe even most successful women have HAD to be competitive and to look out for number one to get even a small measure of recognition for their achievements or the opportunities that are routinely offered to less qualified men.

You know the old adage, Men are assertive, women are bitches.

I think things are changing for the better but you can't expect to overcome most of history in just a few short years of our lifetime.

Here's to our granddaughter's futures!
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06:58 PM on 04/20/2010
Never invoke Freud if you wish to be taken seriously.
04:07 PM on 04/20/2010
I've had bad bosses of both genders, and, like relevancematters below, I've seen little difference in the poor management style of men compared to that of women. Many women are nurturing and considerate, but they aren't the ones who are rewarded with corner offices, nor are men with similar empathetic characteristics. Part of the issue is that people who tend to crave power and do what it takes to get it often have a psychological profile that is narcissistic, dominating and often downright abusive. I have had a few good bosses, but the majority of them have been impersonal, self-involved and not at all invested in developing their junior employees, only doing so to the degree necessary to satisfy their own career advancement requirements for 'mentoring.' That's the real issue, the fact that people who have such low emotional intelligence that they possess the capacity to abuse power are allowed anywhere near it. It cuts across gender lines and causes immense problems in the workplace, like low morale, decreased productivity, and turnover. More people leave their jobs because of a bad boss than for any other reason. I don't care if my boss is male or female - i just want them to be human.
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03:43 PM on 04/20/2010
In my experience too many women supervisors act just like the big boys club, which is largely obnoxious and sociopathic.

Some of the best supervisors I had in the 30+ years of work were women who understood the situation and used their communication skills to improve the whole area. The worst were male or female egocentric sociopaths who saw employees as people they could run over on their way to the top of money mountain.