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Fixing the Mortgage Mess: The Game-changing Implications of Bain v. MERS

Posted: 08/23/2012 9:40 am

Two landmark developments on Aug. 16 give momentum to the growing interest of cities and counties in addressing the mortgage crisis using eminent domain:

  1. The Washington State Supreme Court held in Bain v. MERS, et al., that an electronic database called Mortgage Electronic Registration Systems (MERS) is not a "beneficiary" entitled to foreclose under a deed of trust; and
  2. San Bernardino County, Calif., passed a resolution to consider plans to use eminent domain to address the glut of underwater borrowers by purchasing and refinancing their loans.

MERS is the electronic smokescreen that allowed banks to build their securitization Ponzi scheme without worrying about details like ownership and chain of title. According to property law attorney Neil Garfield, properties were sold to multiple investors or conveyed to empty trusts, subprime securities were endorsed as triple A, and banks earned up to 40 times what they could earn on a paying loan, using credit default swaps in which they bet the loan would go into default. As the dust settles from collapse of the scheme, homeowners are left with underwater mortgages with no legitimate owners to negotiate with. The solution now being considered is for municipalities to simply take ownership of the mortgages through eminent domain. This would allow them to clear title and start fresh, along with some other lucrative dividends.

A major snag in these proposals has been that to make them economically feasible, the mortgages would have to be purchased at less than fair market value, in violation of eminent domain laws. But for troubled properties with MERS in the title - -which now seems to be the majority of them -- this may no longer be a problem. If MERS is not a beneficiary entitled to foreclose, as held in Bain, it is not entitled to assign that right or to assign title. Title remains with the original note holder; and in the typical case, the note holder can no longer be located or established, since the property has been used as collateral for multiple investors. In these cases, counties or cities may be able to obtain the mortgages free and clear. The county or city would then be in a position to "do the fair thing," settling with stakeholders in proportion to their legitimate claims, and refinancing or reselling the properties, with proceeds accruing to the city or county.

Bain v. MERS: No Rights Without the Original Note

Although Bain is binding precedent only in Washington State, it is well reasoned and is expected to be followed elsewhere. The question, said the panel, was "whether MERS and its associated business partners and institutions can both replace the existing recording system established by Washington statutes and still take advantage of legal procedures established in those same statutes." The Court held that they could not have it both ways:

Simply put, if MERS does not hold the note, it is not a lawful beneficiary...

MERS suggests that, if we find a violation of the act, "MERS should be required to assign its interest in any deed of trust to the holder of the promissory note, and have that assignment recorded in the land title records, before any non-judicial foreclosure could take place." But if MERS is not the beneficiary as contemplated by Washington law, it is unclear what rights, if any, it has to convey. Other courts have rejected similar suggestions. [Citations omitted.]

If MERS has no rights that it can assign, the parties are back to square one: The original holder of the promissory note must be found. The problem is that many of these mortgage companies are no longer in business, and even if they could be located, it is too late in most cases to assign the note to the trusts that are being tossed this hot potato.

Mortgage-backed securities are sold to investors in packages representing interests in trusts called REMICs (Real Estate Mortgage Investment Conduits), which are designed as tax shelters. To qualify for that status, however, they must be "static." Mortgages can't be transferred in and out once the closing date has occurred. The REMIC Pooling and Servicing Agreement typically states that any transfer after the closing date is invalid. Yet few, if any, properties in foreclosure seem to have been assigned to these REMICs before the closing date, in blatant disregard of legal requirements.

The whole business is quite complicated, but the bottom line is that title has been clouded not only by MERS but because the trusts purporting to foreclose do not own the properties by the terms of their own documents. Legally, the latter defect may be even more fatal than filing in the name of MERS in establishing a break in the chain of title to securitized properties.

What This Means for Eminent Domain Plans: Focus on San Bernardino

Under the plans that the San Bernardino County board of supervisors voted to explore, the county would take underwater mortgages by eminent domain and then help the borrowers into mortgages with significantly lower monthly payments.

Objections voiced at the Aug. 16 hearing included suspicions concerning the role of Mortgage Resolution Partners, the private venture capital firm bringing the proposal (would it make off with the profits and leave the county footing the bills?), and where the county would get the money for the purchases.

A way around these objections might be to eliminate the private middleman and proceed through a county land bank of the sort set up in other states. If the land bank focused on properties with MERS in the chain of title (underwater, foreclosed or abandoned), it might obtain a significant inventory of properties free and clear.

The county would simply need to give notice in the local newspaper of intent to exercise its right of eminent domain. The burden of proof would then transfer to the claimant to establish title in a court proceeding. If the court followed Bain, title typically could not be proved and would pass free and clear to the county land bank, which could sell or rent the property and work out a fair settlement with the parties.

That would resolve not only the funding question but whether using eminent domain to cure mortgage problems constitutes an unconstitutional taking of private property. In these cases, there would be no one to take from, since no one would be able to prove title. The investors would take their place in line as unsecured creditors with claims in equity for actual damages. In most cases, they would be protected by credit default swaps and could recover from those arrangements.

The investors, banks and servicers all profited from the smokescreen of MERS, which shielded them from liability. As noted in Bain:

Critics of the MERS system point out that after bundling many loans together, it is difficult, if not impossible, to identify the current holder of any particular loan, or to negotiate with that holder... Under the MERS system, questions of authority and accountability arise, and determining who has authority to negotiate loan modifications and who is accountable for misrepresentation and fraud becomes extraordinarily difficult.

Like MERS itself, the investors must deal with the consequences of an anonymity so remote that they removed themselves from the chain of title.

On Aug. 15, the Federal Housing Finance Agency threatened to take action against municipalities condemning federal property. But to establish its claim, the FHFA, too, would have to establish that the mortgages were federal property; and under the Bain ruling, this could be difficult.

Setting Things Right

While banks and investors were busy counting their profits behind the curtain of MERS, homeowners and counties have been made to bear the losses. The city of San Bernardino is in such dire straits that on Aug. 1, it filed for bankruptcy.

San Bernardino and other counties are drowning in debt from a crisis created when Wall Street's real estate securitization bubble burst. By using eminent domain, they can clean up the destruction of their land title records and 400 years of real property law. And by setting up their own banks, counties and other municipalities can use their own capital and revenues to generate credit for local purposes.

Homeowners who paid much more for a home than it was worth as a result of the securitization bubble have little chance of challenging the legitimacy of their underwater mortgages on their own. Insisting that their state and local governments follow the lead of Washington State and San Bernardino County may be their best shot at escaping debt peonage to their mortgage lenders.

 
 
 

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08:12 PM on 09/25/2012
"Title remains with the original note holder; and in the typical case, the note holder can no longer be located or established, since the property has been used as collateral for multiple investors. In these cases, counties or cities may be able to obtain the mortgages free and clear."

How completely communist of you. Why doesn't this mean that the PEOPLE LIVING IN THE HOMES can obtain the mortgages free and clear and not then have to pay the government even more money? Why did you intentionally choose to not mention that possibility?
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04:34 PM on 09/05/2012
An ADDITIONAL matter that MUST be included in “Fixing the Mortgage Mess,” is the purported commercial and residential foreclosed properties that never go back to lenders and banks. These properties become illegally owned (and flipped) by 3rd parties after renters and owners vacate (too many rendered homeless --via UNLAWFUL COLLECTION TACTICS and abuses of court systems).

'Not always are people seeking to get a 'free' home; many are willing to pay rent. Why and how should property owners be blamed for refusing to cooperate with erroneous and fraudulent confiscation of their homes? Who can blame any reasonable person for not wanting to be homeless if there is a LAWFUL method to avoid it?'

*abstract from “FORECLOSURES -Keeping it real about: mortgage lenders, borrowers, attorneys” @ http://open.salon.com/blog/wwwlawgraceorg/2010/10/30/foreclosures_-keeping_it_real_about_mortgage_lenders_b

*Also see: http://open.salon.com/blog/wwwlawgraceorg/2010/08/18/case_in_point_foreclosure_mills_judicial_fraud_consumer
05:56 PM on 08/28/2012
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02:17 PM on 08/27/2012
I used to think you ProLibs (progressive liberals) were dumb, as in, lacking any intelligence. Then I realized you're not dumb, you're very intelligent and you know exactly what you're doing. You have no problem destroying the lives of hard working Americans. For years I believed Pro-Libs didn't look at the big picture or the long term ramifications. For example, Bill Clinton reversing Glass Steagall which created this whole debacle! But Pro-Libs knew exactly what they were doing, they needed to reverse Glass-Steagall so they could pass the Community Re-Investement Act and force banks into making loans to people who didn't qualify or not requiring people to put a sufficient down payment (20% or more).

I thought Liberals didn't realize that by reversing Glass Steagall and forcing banks to make those risky loans the banks would then expand that to "A & B" paper loans as well. Creating huge profits for banks but also creating a "bubble". But you liberals knew exactly what would happen and that's what you wanted so you could get easy money out to voters and when the whole thing collapsed you would have someone to blame... the big bad banks!

Really it was the big bad government!

So homeowners (even the ones who were good credit risks), now blame the bank. The politicians have something to make them look like the good guys! And Americans are falling for it all over again, but not any more, the word is out.
08:10 AM on 08/28/2012
The conservative vs. liberal (good vs. evil, republican vs. democrat) mindset of this comment doesn’t correspond to reality. No matter which party is elected, the same financial interests control the country. The banks make the biggest campaign contributions, and who pays the piper calls the tune. Wall Street rules. Clinton was not progressive/liberal – no one who approved bank deregulation the way he did could be considered a liberal – nor is Obama, who is also owned by Wall Street and continues the policies of Bush. Big bad government? Government captured by big finance is the fascist reality we live under. It is the enemy, not government per se. Our problems are actually so big that only through the big stick of government that is actually on the people’s side can they be overcome.
11:37 PM on 08/26/2012
Gad! There's got to be some way to simplify this mess. Ppulatie seems to thrive on the complexity and that's reasonable given that if it were simple, he'd be spending more time chasing ambulances. If it were simple, everyone could understand it. Can't have a level playing field! No, the 1% could not tolerate that! Ellen's desire to make a clean sweep, to just wipe away the whole securitization nonsense, and set up a plain vanilla relationship between borrower and local lender, a local bank operating in the public interest, a NEW bank coined for this special occasion, this abysmal failure of the private system of finance. What's wrong with that? Government is helping the fraudsters. Government is not helping the victims. So we've got a chance for a grass roots boot strap effort. But it's so complicated no one understands what the hell is going on!
11:05 AM on 08/27/2012
Jdanison,

(1) I am not an attorney. I do function as case consultant as needed, and I am certified through 703 hearings and am able to testify as Expert Witness in certain areas in the lending and foreclosure process.

(2) I do not chase ambulances since I am not a dog. Plus, I get sick at the sight of blood and guts.

(3) There is no way to simplify this. There are far too many laws and statutes that interact, and each state has differing laws to further compound the issue.

(4) Local banks do not have the resources to serve the entire community, especially if fractional banking is removed.

(5) Ellen's ideas may work at some level, but would not have the capability to meet all demand. Prior to the crash, 80% of all lending, whether GSE or private money came from Wall Street. These were the pension funds, mutual funds, stock and bond buyers, i.e. the money came from the little people. Eliminate this source of funds, then home values would completely plummet because there would be no money to fund the loans. Local banks would not be able to meet supply and interest rates would increase because of the demand for money.

(6) If you take through eminent domain, you will not be taking from the GSE's or the banks. You will be taking from the people who bought the bonds created from the MBS. In other words, you are taking from your neighbors.
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Ellen Brown
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06:17 AM on 08/28/2012
I understand from N Garfield, whom I realize you don't credit, that creditors and homeowners actually want to work something out and could, but the middleman banks and servicers are standing in the way -- not necessarily intentionally but they don't have standing either. Garfield says the servicers/banks are taking a major cut, and they don't want the investors OR the homeowners to see how much. If you had a neutral county agency with no other purpose than to work these things out, the way courts are supposed to do but are hugely overworked and simply can't, progress might be made. The first thing we need is transparency, so we can see who has put in how much, who has taken out how much, and the overall equities of the deal. Everybody needs to take a haircut, not just the homeowner who bought at the top and had to ride the market down. MERS conceals what is going on and makes it so complicated that no one but a handful of experts who devote full time to the business can get a handle on it.
11:27 AM on 08/28/2012
Your forbearance is appreciated, ppulatie. But I must say, in today's environment being a dog is not such a bad deal, and chasing ambulances is healthful exercise. Can't speak for Ellen Brown, but my neighbors don't buy MBS, not even indirectly through pension funds and what-not. I can think of one individual, who claims he's retired from the "state department" who probably has some exposure here, but generally speaking precious few Americans are invested in the stock market due to lack of disposable income which is sometimes disposed of before it arrives in a process called garnishment. Po f
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Kim Greenhouse
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06:32 PM on 08/25/2012
Don't forget to listen to Ellen Brown, Dave Kreiger of "Clouded Titles" and Kim Greenhouse on It's Rainmaking Time! discussing MERS and the entire US Real Estate Problem at: It's Rainmaking Time!

http://itsrainmakingtime.com/2012/davekrieger/
05:29 PM on 08/24/2012
Ms. Brown,

Foreclosure and beneficiary laws are different in different states and Bain has no applicability in CA.

1. Gomes v Countrywide found that MERS was lawful, MERS had an agency relationship, and that MERS could make assignments or could foreclose. The case was appealed to the 4th District, CA Supreme Court, and to the US Supreme Court, each time denied. That means that Gomes is the law in CA, until otherwise overturned.

2. The concept of eminent domain by San Bernardino County serves no true public purpose under traditional eminent domain practices. It would be fought in the courts, and would be found to be unlawful.

3. Those like Garfield who make claims about empty trusts, etc, are not being honest. The loans went into the Trusts, and loan payments were paid. I have seen documents proving they are in the trusts.

4. In the Trust filing documents, there is clear and specific language about how the loans are transferred. When MERS is involved in CA, there is not a requirement for assignments. Non MERS loans require a blank assignment, but does not get recorded until absolutely necessary.

7. In CA, to transfer a loan, there is not a requirement for an Assignment to be executed and recorded. CA law has been specific about this since the late 1800's. Gomes and other cases have upheld this time and again.

I really suggest that you take the time to study foreclosure cases in CA.

Patrick
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Ellen Brown
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06:26 PM on 08/24/2012
Cool, a case to spar with. I did enjoy litigation when I was doing it!

So here would be my response to that: the appellate court in Gomes said that CA is a non-judicial foreclosure state, and that to allow the defendant to haul the bank into court on the MERS issue would turn every foreclosure into a judicial foreclosure.

We're not talking about foreclosure here. We're talking about whether you can assign chain of title if you never had the requisites of title to convey -- the note and deed of trust. And we're talking about eminent domain, which will put the burden on the bank to go into court and prove title. What one law professor said of Gomes and bankruptcy court also pertains to eminent domain:

"By holding that the borrower could not even file suit in state court in order to determine whether the proper party had commenced the foreclosure, the court has sent a clear (and perhaps inadvertent) message to borrowers and their attorney’s: instead of filing suit in state court, file a bankruptcy petition. That shifts the burden to the creditor, who will have to file a motion for relief from stay in the bankruptcy court and will have to establish its right to foreclose as part of that motion."
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Ellen Brown
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06:42 PM on 08/24/2012
I submitted a reply but don't see it so will try again in case of procedural error.

The appellate court ruled in Gomes that California is a non-judicial foreclosure state, and that to allow defendants to haul the bank into court to prove its standing to foreclosure would turn every case into a judicial foreclosure, slowing up the process. Here we're not talking about a non-judicial foreclosure but about proving title in an eminent domain proceeding, which puts the burden on the bank to prove its claim. What was said by a law professor about Gomes and bankruptcy proceedings also applies to eminent domain proceedings:

"By holding that the borrower could not even file suit in state court in order to determine whether the proper party had commenced the foreclosure, the court has sent a clear (and perhaps inadvertent) message to borrowers and their attorney’s: instead of filing suit in state court, file a bankruptcy petition. That shifts the burden to the creditor, who will have to file a motion for relief from stay in the bankruptcy court and will have to establish its right to foreclose as part of that motion."
09:06 AM on 08/25/2012
FYI,

I have been involved in these type actions daily for the past five years, working on both sides of the issue. I have seen and reviewed discovery documents that most attorneys on either side have not seen. I have testified in both state and federal courts for homeowners, and I have worked lender v mortgage banker cases.

Yes, the Court did say what you wrote, but it also hold that MERS was an agent of the beneficiary. Acting as such, MERS could execute assignments and could foreclose.

(This 250 word limit is going to drive me nuts.)

I have read not only the MERS Membership Agreement, but I have also read and reviewed other MERS Agreements that went with the Mortgage Loan Purchase Agreements and the Notes between Warehouse Lenders and Mortgage Bankers who funded the loans off the Warehouse lines. There is conclusive proof that MERS is an agent. (I have no idea why this documents did not appear in Bains.)

Nest comment space:
09:15 AM on 08/25/2012
Argument about conveying title:

The MERS agreements with originating lenders are very specific of what can and can't be done and how MERS conducts business. It identifies the relationship between MERS and the lender, and then it covers transfer of the Notes and Deeds. IMO, there is no doubt of the ability to transfer the Deed per the relationships established.

Even the Deed of Trust makes mention of "MERS successors and assigns", which can be further evidence of the borrower agreeing that MERS can assign the Deed, just like how in Gomes the court stated that MERS was given permission to foreclosure based upon the borrower signing the DOT.

That said, another argument simply is under Article 3 of the UCC. The Deed follows the Note. You transfer the Note, and the Deed is automatic. However, you cannot transfer the Deed, and have the Note follow. But since the Note has been transferred already, the act of MERS assigning the Note at a later date is not a problem.
03:37 AM on 08/24/2012
NO WAY - WHAT ABOUT THE $85,000 CASH DOWN THAT THESE THIEVES STOLE FROM ME?? THEY GAVE ME A BAD TITLE -- A WORTHLESS MERS TITLE --

AND YOU ARE SAYING THAT MORE THIEVES -- "EMINENT DOMAIN" SHOULD BE INVITED TO STEAL MY HOME?? MILLIONS OF HOMEOWNERS DID PAY CASH DOWN -- AND ARE NOT FREELOADING SUB-PRIME BORROWERS.... SO -- THE NEXT TIME YOU ASSUME THAT THE GOVT SHOULD EMINENT DOMAIN -- DO YOUR HOMEWORK FIRST AND DISCOVER THAT
YES -- MANY PEOPLE GAVE THEIR CASH TO CROOKS -- AND YOU ARE SAYING THAT MORE CROOKS SHOULD COME AND EMINENT DOMAIN THEIR INVESTMENTS?

WHAT ABOUT THE INJURY TO THE HOMEOWNERS -- WHO PUT MONEY DOWN -- ONLY TO FIND OUT THAT THEY COULD NEVER OWN THE HOME THEY PAID FOR??

WHERE ARE THE HANDCUFFS FOR THESE CROOKS AND WHERE ARE THE JOURNALISTS WHO ARE WILLING TO CALL STEALING AND ROBBERY DONE BY PEOPLE A CRIME --

AND STAND UP FOR THE HOMEOWNERS WHO * DID * PUT CASH DOWN ON THEIR HOME --

IN MY CASE -- MORE LIKE 40% CASH DOWN -- ???
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Ellen Brown
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11:18 AM on 08/24/2012
Whether to have the county step in is totally the choice of the homeowner. If you don't want the help, no problem. The idea is to get the mortgage down to something that people can afford to pay and that makes sense in this market. Housing prices doubled because of a credit bubble created on Wall Street. People committed to pay those doubled prices and then the bubble collapsed, again due to the corruption of Wall Street. Now they expect the homeowners to bear the losses, obviously not equitable. But who has the power to intervene and do equity? The county does, when it serves the public interest and all parties are made whole. In this case, the bank doesn't have to be made whole because it can't prove it is a party. That leaves the homeowner and the investors, who have only an unsecured claim for as much money as they can prove they actually gave to the homeowner and haven't been compensated for by credit default swaps and so forth. The investors will have a hard time proving those claims, because it's not clear where any particular set of investors' money went. Their claim is against the bank for a fraudulent investment, not against the homeowner.
12:58 PM on 08/26/2012
Ellen,

I agree with getting the mortgage down to an affordable payment, but therein lies another problem. For most people, and I have seen far too many, there cannot be reasonable modification that will allow a person to successfully keep the home, but also create a reasonable scenario for the investor.

As to the blame on the banks, you are not factoring in all other events which influenced the situation. For a true understanding, you most go back at least to the Depression, if not the late 1800's, and then plot out all events that occurred affecting housing. Then you must factor in changing demographics, the political landscape, the changing economy, and a variety of other factors to reach a true conclusion of where the fault lies, and it is among all parties involved, from the lenders, government, Fed, failed economic policies, brokers, real estate agents, all the way down to the borrowers. No one was without fault, and no one was fully to blame.

I have an ongoing chart of events which covers over 40 pages in Excel, trying to keep track of things, and it is probably about 50% complete at this time.

For Credit Default Swaps, courts have ruled in other states, nothing yet in CA, that a Credit Default Swap is an event completely separate from the loan. Payment of the Swap is not "double payment", as Garfield has alleged. In fact, he ignores the VA case that set the standard.
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Ellen Brown
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11:53 AM on 08/24/2012
If the bank gave you a bad title, only the county can straighten it out. This is how you can get a clean chain of title. The county starts clean and deeds it to you. It's a win-win. My regret with these articles is that they have to be really short, so there isn't room to put in all those details that people get outraged about because they don't understand what is being proposed. The proposals on the table now involve a private middleman that would take a cut. Those ARE suspicious. The idea here was to keep it all in the public interest, with no private profiteers.
03:33 AM on 08/24/2012
NO WAY -- I PUT $85,000 DOWN ON MY HOME - MORE LIKE 40% -- AND YOU ARE SAYING THAT JUST BECAUSE I HAVE MERS ON MY TITLE THAT THE GOVT SHOULD "EMINENT DOMAIN" ME --

HEY - WHAT ABOUT THE $85,000 CASH THAT WAS STOLEN FROM ME -- AND IN EXCHANGE ALL I GOT WAS A WORTHLESS TITLE ??? THAT IS CALLED ROBBERY. IF SOMEONE STOLE YOUR MONEY AND GAVE YOU A BAD BILL OF GOODS -- YOU ARE ASKING OTHERS TO COME HELP THE THIEVES KEEP STEALING??

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? THERE ARE MILLIONS OF HOMEOWNERS LIKE ME WHO INVESTED IN THEIR HOMES -- AND ARE NOT SUBPRIME BORROWERS.
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Ellen Brown
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11:19 AM on 08/24/2012
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01:14 AM on 08/24/2012
With dwindling support from the Feds, I'd say there could be more than a few States looking at feasible options for decreasing the burden of debt. This deserves attention from everyone.
10:30 PM on 08/23/2012
Eminent domain is a horrible idea. It would be a filed day for fraudsters and cronies.

The banks screwed up the land records but no way is the person living in the house going to make out. Only the gov't or the banks. Screw the people!
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Ellen Brown
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12:57 AM on 08/24/2012
The idea is to renegotiate the mortgage at fair market value, meaning only about half what the homeowner is on the hook for now. The homeowner stays in the home; it's only the mortgage (a promissory note) that gets eminent domained. The county gets possession of the mortgage because the bank can't prove title, and negotiates with the homeowner for FMV or even less, since the county will have gotten it for free. It's a very good deal for the homeowner and the county. The bank and the investors will complain, but the law's the law. They played fast and loose with it and have to suffer the consequences.
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jtenn
07:44 PM on 08/23/2012
Or, we could have an old fashioned bankers' jubilee!
04:26 PM on 08/23/2012
Here's the flaw in SB plan. A fair market value must be paid for the house(or loan(s) in this case). In most cases in today's housing market here in California, fair market value will not be equal to the debt on the property. To think that any bank or lending insitution is going to go along with this idea without tying it up in court for a decade or more is naive to say the least. So, you have big lending insitutions and banks with large amounts of moeny to fight this, and local County's and City's on the verge of bankruptcy (in some cases in bankruptcy) proposing this solution. Who do you think will prevail? Not to even get into a discussion of why we the taxpayer should be paying to take someone's mortgage.
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Ellen Brown
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06:45 PM on 08/23/2012
That's the point. It won't cost the county anything if they get the properties free and clear because the banks can't prove title. And they can't.
09:36 AM on 08/24/2012
Good luck with the theory. I still don't think it will fly. Also, there is no such thing as free and clear as the process to obtain will cost money that most local counties and city's do not have.
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jtenn
07:49 PM on 08/23/2012
You did not understand. If the bank can't prove it legally owns, it's out. The City, county, whom ever, simply follows the eminent domain procedure and in turn sells the property the "homeowner" for a mutually agreed to amount. Start with cost to rebuild less principal paid to previous lender over time of previous mortgage, prior to it's falling from grace.
The "investors" have gotten theirs brother, believe it.
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Ellen Brown
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10:02 PM on 08/23/2012
I guess you're right. I don't understand! Try again?
09:35 AM on 08/24/2012
Still costs to process an eminent domain procedure, so no, its not free.
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Kache
Citizens, Unite!
02:46 PM on 08/23/2012
Well written!

I had also never considered the point that if investor's unsecured claims in equity are covered by credit default swaps they will have no claim of damages. And if those credit default swaps are cashed in, the right people get hurt. It was those very credit default swaps that allowed banks to make more selling the loans to investors than they could off of maturing the loan.

It will be interesting to watch Ed DeMarco at FHFA try to establish standing by trotting his pig-in-a-poke into court instead of a title.
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jtenn
07:52 PM on 08/23/2012
Eric Holder will probably defend DeMarco. Nothing to worry about. The Feds are on the job... (asleep at the switch.)
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Kache
Citizens, Unite!
09:30 PM on 08/23/2012
I've yet to see a principal write-down proposal that would not create more problems than it would fix, other than Simon Johnson's $2 trillion proposal to write-down ALL mortgages between 2002-2008 regardless of their status.

But, if one county, San Bernadino, can pull this off, as Ms Brown has described it, banks in every county would be scrambling to refinance at lower principal (and properly title it) rather than lose all equity claim to the existing mortgages.

Plus, even if we have to do this in hundreds of counties, that's a plus. It would redefine counties as communities of people instead of killing fields for Wall Street. And that, in the long run may be more important than what happens to the mortgages.
08:35 AM on 08/25/2012
feds are not asleep at the switch
the feds president attorney general congress
are hyper active
in the protection racket
they know exactly what they are doing just lieing publicly
they will protect every crook fraudster till the end
12:32 PM on 08/23/2012
The create a public bank and use eminent domain combo looks like a winning plan, a way to play hardball with the banks, set things right, and hit a homerun for bank victims, society, and the 99%.