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Meatless Monday: Anger Management

Posted: 05/31/10 09:41 AM ET

Based on reader response from my "Meat People Push Back" of post two weeks ago, there are some very angry carnivores out there.

Anger is a natural human response to crisis. It gives you a shot of adrenaline and cortisol, your fight or flight hormone. You're focused, three espressos worth of revved. If you were graded by the Department of Homeland Security, you'd be in a state of red alert.

This is useful in a crunch situation, but a steady diet of anger isn't good for you. It locks up your muscles and sends your blood pressure and heart rate skyward. Too much cortisol over too much time results in a fat gut and a slow brain. Anger can make you fat, stupid or dead.. So chill, guys. One way to do that is to give up meat.

Recent research by Arizona State University showed omnivores who went meatless felt better emotionally. Of the 39 people studied, one group kept to their omnivorous ways, a second group ate fish but no other source of animal protein, the third group ate no fish, no meat, no eggs. The first two groups reported no change in emotion or cognition. The plant-based party reported they felt more relaxed and focused than they did eating meat. I'm not saying all meat eaters are stupid. I'm saying there's a real correlation between how eating meat and feeling anger affect the body.

The Harvard School of Public Health examined 1,300 men in their 60s over the course of seven years and found the angriest guys were likelier to develop heart disease than those who could ride life's highs and lows without losing it. In another study, the Harvard School of Public Health showed eating bacon, salami, sausage, hot dogs, any meat that's been processed or cured or salted, jacks up your risk of heart disease by 42 percent and your risk of diabetes by 19 percent. Feeling anger poses a lot of the same health risks as eating meat does.

Centuries before modern science noted what meat does to your body and mood, another science, Ayurveda, Sanskrit for the science of life, noted what it does to your karma, Sanscrit for action. Karma says we will experience the consequences of our actions, what goes around comes around.

Ayurveda, or balance, separates food and states of being into three categories. There's sattvic -- lightness and balance (spirit) rajasic -- change and energy (life), and tamasic -- heavy and dark (death). Guess which category meat falls under? The Surangama Sutra tells us that "if we eat the flesh of living creatures, we are destroying the seeds of compassion." That's the opposite of sattva, which strives for ahimsa, universal love, non-violence.

There's no meat in a sattvic diet, just fresh organic fruits and vegetables, beans, whole grains, raw nuts and seeds and organic dairy. These foods are believed to energize and nourish the body without taxing it, providing the gateway to higher consciousness.

Does this piss you off? It could be you have a meat-related anger management issue and everyone around you is too afraid to tell you. Perhaps you'd benefit by swapping that steak for something sattvic.

Giving up meat doesn't mean depriving yourself of pleasure. You can be enlightened and peaceful and still eat fabulous food. You'll be on your way to a healthier body, a happier life and a lighter karma, too.

Meat out. Peace out.

Sattvic Mung Dal

Dal, or split peas, are a cornerstone of ayurvedic cuisine. Beans provide protein and fiber, and since these are small and already split, are quick to cook and easy to digest.

The downside of a purely sattvic diet for me is that garlic, onion and chilis, my culinary triumvirate, are ix-nayed. They're too exciting. Too rajasic. However, you can make a perfectly sultry, perfectly sattvic curry of mung beans using warming spices like cumin, ginger, coriander and turmeric.

2 cups split mung beans
1 tablespoon coconut oil or ghee (Indian clarified butter)
2 tablespoons fresh ginger, chopped fine
1 teaspoon turmeric
1 teaspoon cumin
1 teaspoon coriander
4 cups vegetable broth or water
1 bunch fresh cilantro, chopped
sea salt to taste

Rinse mung beans and let drain.

Meanwhile, heat oil or ghee in a large pot over medium-high heat. Add chopped ginger, turmeric and coriander. Stir until the ginger softens and the spices darken and turn fragrant, about 3 minutes.

Add mung beans and water or broth.

Stir and let mixture come to boil. Then cover and reduce heat to low for 30 minutes, until liquid is mostly absorbed and beans are tender.

Add chopped cilantro and sea salt to taste.

Serves 4 to 6.

 

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DebbyM
05:44 PM on 06/17/2010
The majority of vegans have made a choice to go against the flow of an ommiverous world as a result of deep inner, heartfelt pain over what is done by people to animals everywhere. We empathise with their suffering to our very core. We are approximately 1% of the world population . Someone once said that it is sort of like living in a world where everyone thinks that raping and abusing children is ok and you are the only one trying to stop it. That might help you to understand the anger that comes from some. It erupts out of an ocean of sympathy for suffering animals.
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tablesedge
06:37 PM on 06/07/2010
No, thanks. Zero flavor.
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DebbyM
05:31 PM on 06/17/2010
Obviously whoever has been cooking for you is doing it badly, so much so that you believe that the only thing that has any flavour is meat. I'm very sorry for how badly you've been deprived in your life.
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cintirich
The posts above and below mine are wrong.
10:56 AM on 06/07/2010
AZ State studied 39 people......39? That's not a study - that's barely a survey.

They're basing their findings of (assuming here) 13 people who gave up meat. No offense, but let me know when a real study is done with more than a classroom full of people.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to HAPPILY eat some pulled pork.
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Meathead
I am a Barbecue Whisperer and Hedonism Evangelist.
09:17 PM on 06/06/2010
Angry vegans are, without a doubt, less civil than omnivores. So much so that, a while back, I was compelled to write a piece for HuffPo titled "Vegans Starting to Sound Like Beck and Limbaugh". It was in response to a simple recipe article in HuffPo in which someone else had written about a dip with pastrami in it. I had been strafed by multiple mean spirited posts by vegans decrying omnivores. The gist or my article was "you are doing your case no good by sounding like a Beck or Limbaugh who cannot go five minutes without yelling 'socialism'" when you scream at the author whenever he/she writes about meat. I concluded with a plea: "Stop preaching. Stop proselytizing. Stop moralizing. You are giving the intelligent quiet meatless community a bad name. You're only undermining your cause." I stand by that position. Until recently I had a live and let live attitude towards vegans. Recently I've forming very negative opinions about them. Here's the article:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/craig-goldwyn/vegans-starting-to-sound_b_537604.html

So, lacking data and evidence showing the PROPORTIONAL incidence of violence among vegans and omnivores, I think it would be very easy to demonstrate that when it comes to civility, vegans lose. Big time.
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berrynoir
09:42 PM on 06/06/2010
Truly, it did strike me as the essential irony of the situation - a vegan writing an article about "anger management" directed at omnivores. Some of whom were/are admittedly defensive after being shrieked at by vegans and pronounced to be brain-damaged, immoral, responsible for ruining the environment, selfish, fat, unhealthy, ignorant and uneducated...on and on. As a former vegetarian, and someone who might still be one if it was not for medical circumstances, I'm a pretty sympathetic audience - but I've been totally driven away.
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hershykershy
10:25 PM on 06/07/2010
Oh brother! Former vegetarian? "might still be one if it was not for medical circumstances," I am LMAO.
11:14 PM on 06/06/2010
Craig,

I said it before, and I will say it again, you have my utmost respect for having the guts to actually respond to comments and enter into dialogue on the forums that accompany your articles.

It is irritating when someone, such as this "author", makes inflammatory claims, apparently, to garner hits, and then sits back and avoids the discussion that rages around their opinion.

Thanks again for the wonderful recipes and the dialogue.
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berrynoir
07:23 PM on 06/05/2010
Ironically, when it comes to the issue of anger, I was talking to a young man, a vegan, who works at the farmer's market this morning. He told me that he attended the Veggie Pride event in NYC recently and was distressed by how much focus there was on "hating omnivores rather than love for veggies". In fact, the level of anger was deeply troubling to him - he said that people there were talking about wishing they could round up meat-eaters and send them to factory-farms to meet their ends there, and things along that vein. Why is there so much anger? If a group supposedly cares so deeply about all sentient beings, what about fellow humans?
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Steve41
Never insult anyone by accident. R.A.H.
08:22 AM on 06/06/2010
Well said. Lets keep in mind though that the majority of the vegan/vegetarian crowd fall into the same category as your young vegan friend. I know many veggies and can't think of a single one who falls into the category of 'militant', though of course they certainly exist.

As a movement unfortunately it is the vocal minority that seems to draw the most attention and of course the media is drawn to the more sensationalist and controvertial elements. The reasonable majority on the other hand are by nature more reasonable and less newsworthy.
10:06 AM on 06/06/2010
Certainly media sensationalism plays a role. However, I submit that we are seeing a distinct change in animal activist behavior.

The incidence of violence acts committed by animal activists as abruptly increased as of 2003.

http://www.americanscientist.org/include/popup_fullImage.aspx?key=uK4t+WejolwpwveHm5iAE6kL0h1Mjs3Mba1HnWhG5l8rpYc79yrZJ1G177vA4PO+

The reference shows a six-fold increase in violent acts as follows:

Average before 2003; 15 acts per year
Average since 2003: 90 acts per year.

These violent acts break down as follows:

Bombing: ....... 7%
Arson: .......... 10%
Vandalism.: ... 45%
Harassment .. 15%
Theft: ............ 23%

With Lierre Keith, we can now add "assault" to above list.

So the behavior of the militant faction of veganism has changed. The change is alarming.
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berrynoir
10:55 AM on 06/06/2010
You're right, of course - about the vocal minority. Vegans themselves are less than 1% of the population I believe. So it would have to be so. And yes, as a former vegetarian and someone who knows quite a few vegans/vegetarians/etc, there is almost never a face to face/person to person bullying. But I have experienced it. Online is a different story - I think we have all experienced more of it, and I tend to attribute that to that special "internet" filter (or lack thereof) that seems to allow people to say things they would never dream of saying to someone's face. However, after I had the conversation about the Veggie Pride event becoming a hotbed of anger, I began to wonder if it wasn't something more of a "mob mentality"?

Anyway, I brought it up because I felt it was relevant in context on the article on anger. I've heard meat-eaters get defensive but never break into groups and talk about eradicating vegetarians/vegans.
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Meathead
I am a Barbecue Whisperer and Hedonism Evangelist.
06:47 PM on 06/06/2010
I write about food on HuffPo weekly. As you can see from my name, I like meat. But I also make a point of eating it only one meal a day, and try to have no meat days once or twice a week.

Some of my articles are about cooking meat. Some about veggies. Whenever I write about meat, very angry mean people do what I call drive-by puking. They don't read the article. They just go to the comments and accuse me of being a murderer and similar things. When I write about cooking veggies, I NEVER have omnivores do drive-by pukings.

Omnivores are not the only angry people in the world.
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Steve41
Never insult anyone by accident. R.A.H.
07:44 PM on 06/06/2010
Gotta agree with you on this one, some of the vegans especially seem pretty extreme, with the vegetarians a bit more relaxed.

Saw your blog on the pulled pork a few weeks and might try your recipe. One unrealistic ingredient I noticed in the recipe however... you called for a 6 pack of beer.... dude... this is cooking for 8-12 hours, don't you think a 12 pack would be more appropriate =)
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edejan
09:59 PM on 06/04/2010
Haha...Ellen, I can easily go meatless, but I cannot go garlic-, chile- and onion-less!
12:28 PM on 06/05/2010
Long live garlic, chilies, and onions - most delicious.
02:46 PM on 06/04/2010
Good article and appropriately snarky attitude, I think. People have an enormous emotional investment in what they eat, and will go to great lengths--dishonest lengths--to rationalize it. There is no getting through to most of them with facts or ethical arguments...so what the hell, we might as well condescend!
07:41 PM on 06/04/2010
That's funny, because when confronted with the facts earlier, all you did was rationalize.
10:23 PM on 06/03/2010
I love your construct, Ellen, but how do you fit this fact into your argument: Hitler was a vegetarian?
10:51 PM on 06/03/2010
That "fact" is a classic snipe used to put a negative spin on vegetarianism. Hitler was not a vegetarian. However, there may be bad and undesirable people who are vegetarians.
09:27 AM on 06/04/2010
Even if ... I hate to say his name, since I become complicit in a Godwin's violation - Hitler was a vegetarian, or liked to say he was, it has no bearing on veg*nism. Just as quoting Gandhi or any other "authority".
02:42 PM on 06/04/2010
Hitler reduced his meat consumption, but he did not eliminate it completely. So much for your fact.
06:20 PM on 06/03/2010
Thank you for the recipe and the much-needed reality check. Nonvegans need to get a grip!
10:46 PM on 06/03/2010
Part of your reality check should be to look up the Harvard study she cites: Renata Micha, Sarah K. Wallace and Dariush Mozaffarian. Disease, Stroke, and Diabetes Mellitus: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis Red and Processed Meat Consumption and Risk of Incident Coronary Heart
Circulation 2010;121;2271-2283. The conclusion was: "Consumption of processed meats, but not red meats, is associated with higher incidence of CHD and diabetes mellitus." Kanner didn't mention that part of the study. The authors speculate that it is the high sodium and nitrate/nitrite content of processed meats that cause the association with diabetes and heart disease. Interestingly, processed meats were lower in cholesterol.

It would be interesting to see if processed vegetables had the same effect-- kimchee vs fresh cabbage, for instance.
09:28 AM on 06/04/2010
grip gotten!
09:01 AM on 06/03/2010
I don't have a dog in this fight but after reading your article I'm angry too. There are a few word you might want to look up; condescending, arrogant, self-righteous and sanctimonious. I get very annoyed by anyone who thinks she knows what's right for someone else. You have a right to your point of view but don't be nasty because others may not agree with you.
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maslin
At 6 bn km, it's mostly small stuff.
05:52 PM on 06/04/2010
Yes.
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Meathead
I am a Barbecue Whisperer and Hedonism Evangelist.
09:19 PM on 06/06/2010
Yes.
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berrynoir
10:55 PM on 06/02/2010
I began volunteer work when I was 11, so for more than 20 years now of being through and through liberal - a born feminist, someone who has donated time and money to environmental groups, the Peace Corps, worked with persons with disabilities, women's advocacy groups and currently work with the UNEPS, I am saddened that in one "article" Ms. Ellen Kanner has made me understand how the term "liberal" can really be used and understood by others to be an insult.

We have fought very hard, as a people, to have all of the choices available to us that we do. Those choices are precious. So please, try to have an open mind and an open heart when it comes to the lifestyles of others. Do you choose to be vegan? That's wonderful if it makes you happy. Leave it at that. For me, I know what my needs are, and seeking to fulfill them has nothing to do with my moral character. Let's allow each other the respect and courtesy of choice, free from judgment, venom and sanctimonious lectures.
10:48 AM on 06/03/2010
Hear hear!
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berrynoir
06:19 PM on 06/09/2010
I am very sorry to hear of your medical past - though these things shape us and make us into the people that we are, they are also terrifying and stressful, especially on our loved ones.

Do take good, vigilant care of yourself.

Two years ago, I lost my best friend quite suddenly to lymphoma and leukemia. It was the most earth-shattering, soul-destroying experience that I would never wish upon anyone, or on their families (he left behind a wife and 4 year old twins). As the person who knew me better than anyone and loved me, when I lost him I not only lost someone I had known since birth, but I felt like I lost myself, too. And it hurts terribly to know that his death was almost certainly completely preventable with proper care.

Thank you for the links - I know I need to take my own advice about vigilance.
09:14 PM on 06/03/2010
*ahem* free from judgment, venom and sanctimonious lectures."

You certainly are not venomous, berrynoir and I believe your heart is in the right place, but your lecture about freedom from judgment and sanctimonious lectures does seem a bit disingenuous.

One cannot remove morality from choice -- one can choose to ignore that our choices have impact and that others' choices have impact on us, but denial and wishful thinking don't change that reality.

We _are_ our choices and our choices reflect our character. On can debate the true moral implications of certain choices, but it's silly to pretend there isn't an expression of morality in what we choose.

Someone who honestly owns their choice to participate in the abuses of factory farming by buying products from those farms, for instance, is so much more "moral" than someone who participates indirectly (or directly) in those abuses but dishonestly claims exemption from responsibility for that choice. The former choice is still deeply unfortunate but at least it's not accompanied by self-righteous rationalizations and cognitive padding.
09:53 PM on 06/03/2010
Speaking of self-righteous rationalizations and "cognitive padding," there are few things more completely removed from reality than the ignorant myths that vegans tell themselves to absolve themselves from the consequences of their food choices.

One single sustainably pastured cow could supply your primary protein for an entire year while dramatically improving the quality of the soil, preventing water runoff, and enriching the perennial grasses that filter nutrients to the entire ecosystem.

Conversely, the amount of land that has to be used to make up the difference for a vegan diet will wipe out huge swaths of animal habitat, create a land surface with water runoff not much better than a parking lot, massively decrease biodiversity, and countless small animals will be killed in the agricultural process to put all those extra grains on the plate of a vegan.

Another outlandish fairytale that vegans tell themselves is that they don't depend on animal products every bit as much as everyone else. Most vegans are so completely removed from the realities of food production that they are completely oblivious of the incontrovertible fact that the vast majority of organic vegetables that they enjoy are grown with animal products such as manure, blood, and bonemeal. And of those that aren't the vast majority are grown with extremely polluting and unsustainable fertilizers derived from petrochemicals.

Seriously, reading Lierre Keith's The Vegetarian Myth: Food, Justice, and Sustainability would probably do you a world of good.
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odyssey58
10:19 PM on 06/03/2010
"You certainly are not venomous, berrynoir and I believe your heart is in the right place, but your lecture about freedom from judgment and sanctimonious lectures does seem a bit disingenuous."

Huh? Does your CHOICE to respond in an incredibly sanctimonious manner reflect your CHARACTER?
04:37 PM on 06/02/2010
Re: "... there are some very angry carnivores out there."

Mischarazies most participantsNo mention of the contra hominem attacks and misrepresentations of facts from certain few - but very vocal - vegan people in the Recip4es topic.

Some vegans even go so far as to assert that no person who eats meat could even care about the welfare of a vegan. Caring about health? Rendering CPR and first aid? Warning of danger to save life and limb?

Unthinkable!

Yet in the face of such blatant bigotry, this whole blog starts out by representing the people who do choose to eat meat, who do say everyone has a right to their own choice for diet, and who do contribute vegetarian recipes - they are the ones who have "anger management issues."

With vegan faces thrust into ours insisting that no-one who chooses to eat meat has any right to that choice, we all must adopt the militant vegan world view.

This article starts out prejudiced for a display of one-sided judgmentalism.
12:56 AM on 06/03/2010
Don't worry, honey, no onee's saying yo don't have a choice. That's your perception. It's okay to be upset... and I'm sure there are anger management classes/workshops in your area.
10:08 AM on 06/03/2010
And given your Manhattan area code I'm sure that there are no shortage of shrinks to help you come to terms with your own hostility, and learn to express it more directly.
11:15 AM on 06/03/2010
Counterpoints:

From "An Open Letter to Gary Conklin and the Workers of the Conklin Dairy Farm"

Anjushri May 29, 2010 at 01:32:31

"... we must acknowledge that ... all animal use is morally unjustifiable and the way to acknowledge this and the way to live nonviolence in our lives is to become vegan and not talk about it as abstract thought."


Fallopia Tuba 04:24 PM on 5/29/2010

"The answer is ... abolition. Use of animals—for food, for clothing, entertainment, and research—is not necessary ..."


Lisa Q 04:59 PM on 5/29/2010

"It is very difficult for non-vegans to get the point. ... they are causing all of this and that they can stop it by ending all of their uses of animals for any purpose."


vivalalibertine 11:09 PM on 5/3/2020

"Anything that goes against the interest of nonhuman animals is exploitation ... Having a nonhuman individual serve you in any shape or form is exploitation regardless of whether there was physical violence present ... Determining who's economically beneficial is also speciesist, exploitative and denotes slavery.

"Owning" animals is unethical but it is the result of breeding for human enjoyment. Until breeding subsides, there will be 'ownership.'"

"These are all nuances of abuse.

"... Attacking the root is what solves the problem. In this case, being vegan and criticizing the practice of breeding of all types and for all purposes. Shrugging one's shoulders keeps one as a bystander."
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Steve41
Never insult anyone by accident. R.A.H.
09:31 AM on 06/03/2010
"With vegan faces thrust into ours insisting that no-one who chooses to eat meat has any right to that choice, we all must adopt the militant vegan world view."

Does this mean we have to cover ourselves with carot juice and pelt them with swedish meatballs?

=D
11:20 AM on 06/03/2010
LOL!!

I say roast the carrots and serve the meatballs with gravy and mashed potatoes.

No sense wasting good Swedish meatballs on an unappreciative audience. Though when they're made with cheap meat and overcooked into hard rubberiness, well, it's real tempting.

I recommend puke shields up and stand fast. Stick to facts, references, and logic.
10:08 AM on 06/02/2010
Surely, if this was an article about vegans being angry, immoral, spiritually bankrupt people that are building up piles of "bad karma" because of their misguided diet, they would all be just thrilled about it. No doubt they would all be writing loving posts about how glad they are for the learning opportunity. They certainly wouldn't be offended by it, or offer any criticism, because only angry people do that.....

Is the ludicrously outlandish hypocrisy of this article really lost on some of you people? Amazing.
09:16 AM on 06/04/2010
entopticon, I'm a fan but I don't think your argument style or the argument against the Veganism Religion is helped by "Is the ludicrously outlandish hypocrisy of this article really lost on some of you people? Amazing." You have similar statements in this vein. I'm only criticizing (or critiquing) your style - nothing personal. I don't mean to single you out, and I hesitate to do so publicly, rather I want to just ask everybody to refrain from this. Statements such as these are arguments from incredulity and it continues the tactic of questioning the mental state of the opposing arguer. I've been guilty of it myself. It can be taken as insult. It's like the responses from some of the vegans such as "sorry but you don't get to redefine abuse" (accusing the other of being intellectually dishonest or unintelligent) or appeals to anger management, or calling someone else's statement "disingenuous" (more stabs at dishonesty) to outright judgements of the other's morality. We all know that we think the other side is deluded, e.g. Bill Maher calling religious people deluded - a HP religious blogger wrote keenly that is something we need to come to terms with: each side believes the other is deluded - so we shouldn't keep repeating this same fact over and over again and understand it for what it is. Kanner's article is one big tarball of ad hominem and we shouldn't play in kind. More light, less heat. Yours in health.
10:02 AM on 06/04/2010
jc271, I couldn't disagree more. I wouldn't want to live in a world where it was wrong to point out hypocrisy. I am not a lobbyist I am just a person,so I have little interest in winning people over beyond presenting them with the truth. I actually think the above is a very helpful thought experiment, and an entirely legitimate question, so I ask it again:

If the above was an article about vegans being angry, immoral, spiritually bankrupt people that are building up piles of "bad karma" because of their misguided diet, would all of the vegangelicals here be happy about it, and treat it as a positive learning experience, as they have asked of the omnivores? Of course not.

If you consider that for just a moment, it does indeed draw attention to the outlandishly hypocritical double-standards of "some" of the vegangelicals here. I have mentioned on numerous occasions that I have more vegan friends than I could count. What I was referring to there was vegangelical hypocrisy. As I see it, it may be a dirty job, but someone has to do it ;)
09:46 AM on 06/02/2010
What a cute name for a day of abstience. Most cultures and religions have one day a week of fasting. I believe the biggest problem we in the USA face is not what we eat but the quantity.

Concerning the article.. I do agree that vegetarians can be quiet and relaxed but that does not mean they can not rise to anger. Just read the comments across HP to see the attacks and Caps (shouting).
And what is this ! and I quote: "Does this piss you off? It could be you have a meat-related anger management issue and everyone around you is too afraid to tell you. Perhaps you'd benefit by swapping that steak for something sattvic."
A little anger problem showing through Ellen :-) !
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SuzanneZ
05:40 AM on 06/02/2010
Oh and by the way, being a vegetarian for the past 14 years is not enough to keep this "article" from aggravating me.
That's because it's deeply offensive. There are so many perfectly good, simple, 100% truthful arguments for cutting down on meat, it would be such a logical choice for most people if it weren't for this type of endlessly ignorant, obnoxious, self righteous dravel confusing the issue.