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Emma Ruby-Sachs

Emma Ruby-Sachs

Posted: April 20, 2010 12:44 PM

Protesting at Senator Barbara Boxer's Event Was a Step Backwards for Equality

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Yesterday, Obama was heckled at a California fundraiser for Senator Barbara Boxer. Boxer has been holding fundraisers across the country in order to gear up for a heated and difficult race in the upcoming election. If Sarah Palin were in charge of this blog, there'd be a big sign with Senator Boxer's face in the cross hairs -- the conservatives are gunning for her this time around.

Members of Get Equal challenged Obama in the middle of his speech to deal with the repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell. Obama encouraged the protesters to target those politicians who don't already support a repeal of the gay military ban.

The thing is, as much as we dislike Obama and his wishy washy approach to gay rights advocacy, we love Senator Boxer. Boxer has, when it comes to gay rights, been a staunch supporter of equality. She received a 100% rating from the Human Rights Campaign, spoken out about gay rights and actually is one of the few politicians to support gay marriage. She is a liberal activist politician in a landscape of conservative values and inaction on both sides of the aisle. She is exactly the kind of candidate we, as a community, should support.

Instead, we decided that a fundraiser where Obama (read, not much of an advocate for gay rights) was doing his best to support Boxer was a perfect opportunity to highlight the President's inaction on LGBT issues. This, when Boxer is praying patrons open their checkbooks and cough up a bit more money for her campaign. It doesn't mean that the hecklers weren't right in their criticism, Obama is hugely problematic when it comes to equality advocacy, but they needed to choose a different time to engage in that discussion.

The night is over and we can only hope that Boxer got some of the funds she needs out of the event. Still, I hope that the people from Get Equal choose a more opportune moment to engage in protest. In the mean time, if they are serious about equality perhaps they should spend time raising a few dollars for Senator Boxer and her progressive agenda.

 

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01:59 AM on 04/28/2010
Sorry to rain on your parade (again), but Babs (excuse me, Senator Boxer) and your progressive agenda are both cancerous tumors growing in America. True Americans are taking back America, and there's nothing you can do about it. Your dystopic progressive vision is about to be flushed into the bowels of history where it belongs.

We're not racist, we're not violent. Just no longer silent.
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OliverTwist
Contrarian advocate for truth and justice
03:11 PM on 04/21/2010
There is good reason to see Obama as just another broker of power and priviledge - albeit a broker with a slightly different client base than a Republican leader would have.

Those who are more interested in truth and justice than in power and priviledge should keep heckling him.

This may very well be necessary for our collective wellbeing and even for President Obama's success.

Old methods of popular manipulation are coming apart. A politician talking out of both sides of his mouth is likely to be shown as dishonest quickly.

Being caught being dishonest hurts a politician's prospects with the group that sees itself as treated unjustly.

As more and more people loose faith that their representatives are actually working for their interests rather than the interests of some priviledged group the prospects of popular upheaval grow.

People say, "throw the bums out - baby and bathwater together - whatever it takes."

The way things stand now, that might very well mean a takeover by the lunatic right wing - which is even more about priviledge and power (but mobs are about action not thought).

Better we change the values of our leadership than face a popular uprising against the dishonesty of our leadership.

Heckling the president in this case is about proding him to value truth and justice over power and priviledge.

It's a good thing.
03:26 PM on 04/21/2010
I agree with you in general, but I don't think heckling is productive...we're RIGHT on this issue, so why do we need to heckle? That's a childish tactic. It may make us FEEL good, but I don't think it accomplishes anything...if anything, it gives the people who are heckled an excuse to not address our issues.
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AguynamedWayne
03:33 PM on 04/21/2010
The protest caught the attention of several news outlets and engendered a lot of dialog about our issues of inequality. That's a successful protest.
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Marcospinelli
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04:13 PM on 04/21/2010
Obama has not faced a full court press since July 2009 -- Not that the White House press corps was much good at holding his feet to the fire anyway. But as time goes by and with more frequent Q&A sessions, the press gets into the groove as to what its job is, and it's NOT to make the president look good or help him polish his image; it's to get to the truth.

After promising transparency, Obama did a 180-degree turn, and has adopted the worst aspects of the Bush administration's tight control over information and media manipulation.

If you are for the things that the hecklers are for (gay rights), then you should be supporting them and questioning why Obama isn't ending DADT with an executive order. If you believe that it's because he wants Congress to do it with legislation, then you have to wonder why Obama pressured Congressman Alcee Hastings to withdraw his legislation doing it - http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/30/hastings-dadt-white-house/
09:16 PM on 04/21/2010
The lack of strategy is what is problematic. The press soundbite was "hecklers" not "truth to power." Every thing you do in a movement affects its success and its brand. A group of hecklers is a dime a dozen. Come to DC. There is a march of some group with signs and shouts every day of the week.
01:25 PM on 04/21/2010
So I have a question. If gays are upset and decide to sit the November elections out, what does that do? We in effect will be electing more republicans, with the *hopes* that democrats will get the picture and vote more heavily in favor of gay rights...the NEXT time. Yet we don't know what laws will or will not get passed w/more republicans in office that will FURTHER erode what little rights we gays have now.

Republicans won't look at this and think 'well, we'd better do something for the gay community to solidify some support from them'...they'll look at it as a rejection of EVERY part of the "Obama agenda", which includes promises made to the LGBT community.

And the democrats left in office won't move further to the left, they'll probably go more to the right...hell, we've seen it already. We need to keep up the pressure (I liked the idea of gay vets chaining themselves to the WH), but to not vote will send a message, but I fear that message will ultimately be to our detriment, as NO ONE will be able to do anything about the message we've sent by sitting home.
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AguynamedWayne
02:46 PM on 04/21/2010
It would finally put the Democrats on notice that the Gay community's vote can no longer be taken for granted and might help to refocus our energy towards supporting more legal cases like the current Federal trial against Prop 8 as an effective means to achieve equality. If the politicians are just going to lie to us, then why should we support them?
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AguynamedWayne
02:58 PM on 04/21/2010
In other words, it's time to stop putting all of our hopes on politicians, especially when they take our votes and then forget their promises. We need to be more supportive of the legal route as well as continuing to protest and engage in activism against those that work against us, as well as promoting the ideals (and the necessity) of equality.

We need to kick it off on ALL fronts.
03:05 PM on 04/21/2010
...but would it REALLY, or do we just hope that's the effect it'll have? I'm not so sure...and until I'm sure, I'm not certain that is the way to go...that said, I see your point. We do need to do SOMETHING to ensure we aren't viewed as a 'guarantee' regardless of what policies are enacted (or not enacted).

Now, I have stopped giving to a lot of politicians, as I want to see more results before I continue to dole out money to them...but they still have my vote...just not my monetary support (yet).

I do think that focusing more energy on statewide issues, like prop 8 for instance, would be to our benefit however...maybe that's where our money should go.
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AguynamedWayne
12:40 PM on 04/21/2010
" Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly. Never again can we afford to live with the narrow, provincial "outside agitator" idea. Anyone who lives inside the United States can never be considered an outsider anywhere within its bounds.You deplore the demonstrations taking place in Birmingham. But your statement, I am sorry to say, fails to express a similar concern for the conditions that brought about the demonstration. - Martin Luther King Jr. in A Letter From A Birmingham Jail
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01:06 PM on 04/21/2010
What is your point in quoting Dr. King? Do you know what the response was to this letter when he wrote it? Do you genuinely understand the context of the letter and to whom it was addressed?
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AguynamedWayne
02:35 PM on 04/21/2010
Yes. The words are quite clear: Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. People want to degrade the protests and the protesters but all to often turn a blind eye to the reason for the protests.
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AguynamedWayne
02:39 PM on 04/21/2010
The Letter from Birmingham Jail or Letter from Birmingham City Jail, is an open letter written on April 16, 1963, by Martin Luther King, Jr., an American civil rights leader. King wrote the letter from the city jail in Birmingham, Alabama, where he was confined after being arrested for his part in the Birmingham campaign, a planned non-violent protest conducted by the Alabama Christian Movement for Human Rights and King's Southern Christian Leadership Conference against racial segregation by Birmingham's city government and downtown retailers.
King's letter is a response to a statement made by eight white Alabama clergymen on April 12, 1963, titled "A Call For Unity". The clergymen agreed that social injustices existed but argued that the battle against racial segregation should be fought solely in the courts, not in the streets. King responded that without nonviolent forceful direct actions such as his, true civil rights could never be achieved.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_from_Birmingham_Jail
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Theo
12:23 PM on 04/21/2010
If you think protests are supposed to be polite and confined to "opportune" moments and appropriate places then you don't really understand the concept of protesting.

And why should Progressives donate to "Senator Boxer and her progressive agenda" when she, as a Democrat, will extend a portion of those funds to help elect Conservative Democrats who oppose progressive agendas.

The message of this event was simple: if Democratic leaders don't want to be protested by their base, then they should stop stabbing that base in the back.
09:37 PM on 04/21/2010
The one you know...

You need to vote for a specific candidate that you know about and be deliberate. Why risk voting against your interests because the person most in your corner is imperfect?

If you think that Obama and Boxer are stabbing you in the back you have never felt the stab of the political knife.
12:06 PM on 04/21/2010
I wonder what Bush would do, huh
10:10 AM on 04/21/2010
Could this heckling be a precursor to violent extremism? And could this agitation toward our President, believed to be based on policy – actually be thinly veiled racism. Chris Matthews, can you weigh in here?

It would be nice to see these people concerned about foreign policy, our military, the war on terror, and all the work done to fight evil around the globe. But they only care about the military as it pertains to their own cause.
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biznesschic
10:47 AM on 04/21/2010
And they sat on their backside while the tea-baggers has called this president every name you can think of, yet heckle the man at a Democratic fundraiser. Not very courageous.
06:19 PM on 04/21/2010
There were no slurs by the Tea Partiers. However i agree that the DADT protesters don't help their cause. Just as the anti Prop. 8 people here in Calif. always call their opponents homophobes and bigot, and then hope they will change their votes in favor of gay marriage.
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biznesschic
10:52 AM on 04/21/2010
And that is the same question I have posed. Where were these people when President Obama was called every thing but the N-Word? I believe the only civil rights they truly matter is their own.
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Flip75
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12:17 PM on 04/21/2010
How easy it is for you to generalize about the GLBT community. Why do you think we're NOT angry about the rampant racism of the teabaggers? Is it because you haven't gone out to see us counter-protesting? Same goes for foreign policy, military, terrorism, and all that jazz....for we, unlike some ultra-conservatives, believe that our country and our government is capable of doing more than one thing at a time. Terrorism is a perfect example - you want the U.S. military to quell terrorism, yet accuse us of "whining" when we WANT to serve in the military (and prevent the discharge of those qualified individuals already serving). Repealing DADT will strengthen our military by allowing more qualified persons to serve as well as eliminating the time and money spent on witch hunts to discharge someone simply because of who they are.
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12:18 PM on 04/21/2010
I like the posts that tell you to "get off your high horse". They write that stuff having no clue how racist it comes off. Well, since that time that Black people have been sitting on the "high horse" (without a rope around our necks) anyway.

LOL
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sistermoon3
Common sense cant be bought
09:41 AM on 04/21/2010
If he makes dares like, "do you want to come up here?" to constituents who paid to see him, what must he be thinking of the people who didnt vote for him. This man is a boy playing manly games,
he sounded like a middle school bully in the playground surrounded by his security guys jees, what an embarrassment this country has in the white house.
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biznesschic
10:43 AM on 04/21/2010
No, he was giving the guy a chance to come out of the shadows and speak as an adult, not screaming like a raving lunatic. I believe it was an act of courage. Bullies pick on people who they think poses the least threat. I just wish that guy had the courage to scream at a Mitch McConnell town rally, instead of disrupting a liberal president, who has more of an interest in obtaining his civil rights.
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gschear
Max Baucus: What's in your wallet?
11:06 AM on 04/21/2010
He didn't dare them to come up, he invited them up. They have every right to protest and he has every right to engage them. The President is a man doing the job he was elected to do. Embarrassment? No, thankfully we have left the past 8 years of deep and profound embarrassment and shame behind us and to celebrate I am making another small donation to the DNC in YOUR name.
Have a nice day. :)
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biznesschic
11:21 AM on 04/21/2010
fanned!
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AguynamedWayne
02:48 PM on 04/21/2010
A fool and his money are soon parted.
09:06 AM on 04/21/2010
To those of you using the Bible as a weapon against homosexuality, you are wrong. Homosexuality is not a sin. The Bible is constantly being taken out of context to support anti-gay views. Scholars who have studied the Bible in context of the times and in relation to other passages have shown those passages (Leviticus, Corinthians, Romans, etc) have nothing to do with homosexuality. These passages often cherry-picked while ignoring the rest of the Bible. The sins theses passages are referring to are idolatry, Greek temple sex worship, prostitution, pederasty with teen boys, and rape, not homosexuality or two loving consenting adults.

http://www.soulfoodministry.org/docs/English/NotASin.htm
http://www.jesus21.com/content/sex/bible_homosexuality_print.html
http://www.christchapel.com/reclaiming.html
http://www.stjohnsmcc.org/new/BibleAbuse/BiblicalReferences.php
http://www.gaychristian101.com/

Thats why Jesus never mentions it as well. There is nothing immoral, wrong, or sinful about being gay. Jesus, however, clearly states he HATES hypocrites. If you preach goodness, then promote hate and twist the words of the Bible, you are a hypocrite. Homosexuals will not go to hell, hypocrites will.

This is very similar to the religious bigots of the past, where they took Bible passages to condone slavery, keep women down, and used Bible passages to claim blacks as curses who should be enslaved by the white man. People used God to claim that blacks marrying whites was unnatural, and not of God's will.
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gcogs
"You can fly?" "No, jump good."
10:45 AM on 04/21/2010
Thank you, I don't know why any Christian would reference Leviticus. Wasn't the whole point of Jesus coming to Earth to tell everyone that they had it all wrong? That they were severely misinterpreting the Old Testament, and thus wrote a New one?
11:04 AM on 04/21/2010
No, the reason for Jesus Christ coming to Earth was to pay for the atonement of sin. And the Bible is what is say, if you say homosexuality if condoned in the Bible, Please point to the passage that says so.
09:48 PM on 04/21/2010
Why are you arguing what you don't believe or know? Christians aren't the single source for anything you are pointing to. Attacking a group to advocate for a different group is not a great tactic.
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AguynamedWayne
07:35 AM on 04/21/2010
I'm so tired of these apologists licking Obama's boots.
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03:59 PM on 04/21/2010
You're projecting. It was Bush's boots they couldn't get their tongues off.
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Doug Watt
Not ready for 2012
07:33 AM on 04/21/2010
Your reasoning is flawed, Ms. Ruby-Sachs. You would have us all sit politely as promise after promise is broken because we won't want to offend whatever candidate may be in the room when Obama speaks.

Obama is responsible for fulfilling his promises and he asked us to hold him accountable. Get Equal did the right thing and hopefully they will continue to challenge President Obama when his actions don't live up to his commitments.

We will no longer fund gay White House fan clubs like HRC who are willing to throw away our rights for a cocktail party with the President and a $400,000 salary to keep Joe Solmonese in italian suits. We need organizations willing to speak up and fight for our rights and Get Equal fits the bill.
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biznesschic
09:20 AM on 04/21/2010
That is not what she is saying. Right cause, wrong venue.
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Flip75
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12:21 PM on 04/21/2010
Agreed, Doug. Perhaps protesting at Boxer's rally was the PERFECT place to do this, because it gives Boxer the chance to turn to Obama and say "hey, what ARE you waiting for, Mr. Fierce Advocate?" Since Boxer really is one of the few Dems to fully support GLBT equality, a little pressure on her to exert even more strength might be just what's needed.
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AguynamedWayne
07:32 AM on 04/21/2010
Justice Delayed Is Justice Denied. WE WILL NOT BE SILENT. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

Use it or lose it DEMS. We can sit at home in the next election. See how you fare without the Gay Community's vote.
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biznesschic
09:23 AM on 04/21/2010
Seeing that you represent only 3% of the population, while of that population, about half have enough sense to support the party in which is sympathetic to your cause, I say, grab a bag of chips and watch this awful president get reelected on election night, 2012.
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10:27 AM on 04/21/2010
Yep, keep whittling chunks off your base. Hey, what could go wrong with an attitude like that? It's not like your base does the heavy lifting when it comes to getting out the vote, right? Go ahead and tick off the LGBT community. Might as well; you've already ticked off the people who expected a Public Option,
and the people who wanted prosecution of obvious war crimes,
and the people who don't like warrantless wiretaps,
and the people who want reasonable pharma pricing,
and the people who oppose R/C drone attacks that slaughter non-combatants,
and all the rest of those malcontents who donated to your campaign, got out your vote, and voted for you themselves.
Go ahead, tick them off. Helluva job, biznesschic!
kellygreen
"Ideology is the Science of Idiots" John Adams
10:47 AM on 04/21/2010
Then you can be loud, and not accomplish anything. You cannot push a river, society will only change at a given pace, no matter how hard you push it.

Try to push it any faster than that, and you will get a backlash what will set you back even farther.

You'll get farther, faster if you accept your ally's limitations...and work WITH them...than railing agaisnt them.

It is this sort of "My Way or the Highway" mentality by the GOP base that has turned them into a minority party...and deprived them of the ability to do anything in Washington other than to just try to BREAK the system.
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Flip75
What's wrong with my micro-bio?
12:23 PM on 04/21/2010
Serious question here: how does one work with an ally's limitations when the limitation is that he won't do anything?
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Marcospinelli
an old liberal Democrat, a 'New Deal'-Democrat
01:59 AM on 04/21/2010
Democratic voters have mistakenly believed that Obama&Democrats support gay rights. The DLC-controlled Democratic party gives lip service to ending DADT, public healthcare & all populist issues.

If the Bush years taught us nothing else, it's that anyone can sell anything to Americans, if you're stolid & relentless in your sales pitch & tactics. It's not that Bush&R0ve were geniuses & knew something that nobody else knew; Bush&R0ve were just more ruthless (clumsy & careless many political graybeards would say) in doing what politicians & the parties had gone to great lengths to hide from Americans.

Obama didn't get to be the first black president, vanquish the Clinton machine (by getting the DemocraticParty's nomination) & the oldest, most experienced politicians in our nation's history (including the Rove machine) by not having mastered these skills. Nor do Democratic politicians (more incumbents than ever, in office longer) not know how to do it. How do you think Democrats managed to keep the impeachment of Bush&Cheney off the table & have us still reelecting them, not marching on Washington with torches&pitchforks?

Obama&Democrats know how to do it -- They don't want to do it.

The trick for them has been to keep the many different populist groups believing that they really do support our issues, but that they're merely inept. And to get us to keep voting for them in spite of their failure to deliver on any of our alleged shared objectives.
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Mr G
05:03 AM on 04/21/2010
The democrats have been doing the exact same thing with African Americans since the mid sixties.
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biznesschic
11:42 AM on 04/21/2010
Right, and just gave us the civil rights movement, meaning that I, being a women and a minority, benefited twice. The Democratic party elected the first black president. And you wonder why I remain?
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Marcospinelli
an old liberal Democrat, a 'New Deal'-Democrat
02:29 PM on 04/21/2010
Democrats have been doing the same thing to ALL special interest groups since the late 1980s, when the DLC (pro-corporate, DINOs) took over control of the Democratic Party. In response to Reagan's (Lee Atwater's, Karl Rove's) demonizing of the word 'liberal', the DLC ran from the fight and the word and decided the way to win elections was to become Republican-like.

If you don't know who or what the DLC is, look it up.
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"You can fly?" "No, jump good."
11:02 AM on 04/21/2010
"The trick for them has been to keep the many different populist groups believing that they really do support our issues, but that they're merely inept."

I think this line summed it it up nicely. Of course they will seem inept if they never put up a fight in the first place. It seems they are more interested in excuses.
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Marcospinelli
an old liberal Democrat, a 'New Deal'-Democrat
01:56 AM on 04/21/2010
BarbaraBoxer has been a terrible champion of liberal issues, but only those paying attention know this.

What did Boxer do the entire 8 years of the BushAdministration? She effectively went on sabbatical. She wrote murder mysteries ("Something I always wanted to do, if I ever had the time"). She, of course, took her senatorial salary all those years.

As a member of Congress, you can't just be for or against something (like abortion) when it comes up for a vote. You have to be meticulous & actively work to set up the conditions surrounding your vote, to make sure it counts. Your 'yes' vote means nothing if there are more 'no' votes to cancel your vote/voice out. Boxer's ineffectiveness in Congress has enabled the anti-choice movement to chip away at a woman's right to choose, so much so that while it's still legal to get an abortion, it's d@mned near impossible to find any place to get one. 87% of counties in the US are without abortion services.

Boxer's support of JoeLieberman in 2006 exposed Boxer's very 'conditional' support of a woman's right to choose (& her general level of ignorance)
http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/24/the-boxer-meltdown/
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Marcospinelli
an old liberal Democrat, a 'New Deal'-Democrat
02:04 AM on 04/21/2010
Few know of Boxer's cozy relationship with the Indian gaming industry & the conflict of interest her support creates. Her son is in partnership with Indian casino development. Both Boxer & DianneFeinstein worked to get Indian casinos into California -- Not a good thing; they're exempt from state & federal laws, wreak havoc environmentally, financially & socially on the communities they're in and around.
http://articles.sfgate.com/2003-05-11/bay-area/17489097_1_casino-development-indian-casinos-southern-sonoma-county-pomos
http://www.cfspm.org/files/QuickSiteImages/Jackpot_-_A_short_history_of_Bay_Area_Gaming_Efforts_and_Influencers.doc

It's time for Boxer to go & active, committed REAL liberals need to take over.
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03:11 AM on 05/07/2010
So the solution is to allow a Republican to win her seat? Not seeing the upside to that ...
12:48 AM on 04/21/2010
As much as I love Boxer, "her progressive agenda" will be overlooked in November by an electorate that is very unhappy. But at least Democrats will have someone to blame for their losses just like 1994.