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Emma Ruby-Sachs

Emma Ruby-Sachs

Posted: March 25, 2010 12:20 AM

Sarah Palin Advocates Violence, But Her Hit List Isn't Criminal

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In the wake of numerous death threats and vandalism plaguing House Democrats who voted for health insurance reform, many have been asking if the actions of Sarah Palin and other right-wing pundits cross the line from free speech into criminal speech.

Sarah Palin published on her Facebook page a list of twenty Democrats who voted for health insurance reform and who are elected in districts that used to be Republican. Their locations on a map of the United States are marked by crosshairs - a symbol that clearly refers to target practice and violence.

These targeted politicians have received death threats. Their offices and homes and the homes of their family members have been vandalized. They are beefing up security measures for themselves and those who are close to them. Sarah Palin might be to blame.

But she is not a criminal.

The Supreme Court has a high standard for criminalizing speech. Free speech, while not an absolute right, is a highly protected privilege in the United States.

Under certain narrow circumstances, the government can punish or prevent speech when "the words are used in such circumstances and are of such a nature to create a clear and present danger that they will bring about the substantive evils that Congress has a right to prevent." (Schenck v. United States, 1919). This was translated in 1970 into a legal test that demands criminal speech 1) be directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action" and 2) be "likely to produce such action." (Brandenburg v. Ohio, 1970). As Justice Brandeis pointed out in his concurring opinion on the subject of incitement to violence, "If there is time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the process of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence." (Whitney v. California, 1927).

In Brandenburg, this legal test was applied and the Supreme Court found that a call for revenge if "our President, our Congress, our Supreme Court continues to suppress the white, Caucasian race" was not criminal speech.

The saving grace for the crazy revenge talk and gun imagery used in Palin's ad is that it does not create the expectation of imminent harm. Sure, harm has occurred. There have been incidents. But the speech itself does not go so far as to encourage immediate and concrete action. There is time, as Brandeis pointed out, for reasoned discussion and debate.

It is a good thing that we don't criminalize the kind of ads Palin is producing.

First, they are expressly political. Political speech is the highest form of protected speech under the First Amendment and that is necessary to preserve democratic function. We simply have to tolerate extreme points of view in order to prevent a tyranny of the majority and repression of the minority.

Second, expressions of frustration, anger and wishes for revenge are very different from actions that violate criminal law. We punish actions because the create harm. The speech does not. The only time that we criminalize speech is when the very act of speaking so clearly and immediately leads to harm that there is really no way to separate out the act of speaking and the violence that ensues (according to a seminal essay by Zechariah Chafee Jr., Free Speech in the United States, 1948).

That doesn't mean Palin's use of violent imagery isn't offensive. She is a public figure, a former candidate for the second highest office in the country. Her words have a great effect on the public and should be chosen carefully.

On the other hand, if we really wanted to hold politicians to a higher standard of speech, we'd have more than just one member of the Republican party to worry about.

 

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In the wake of numerous death threats and vandalism plaguing House Democrats who voted for health insurance reform, many have been asking if the actions of Sarah Palin and other right-wing pundits c...
In the wake of numerous death threats and vandalism plaguing House Democrats who voted for health insurance reform, many have been asking if the actions of Sarah Palin and other right-wing pundits c...
 
 
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03:40 PM on 03/29/2010
Agreed, it's gross, but it doesn't violate any anti-syndicalism statutes. She's within the bounds of the law, but not the bounds of class.
05:32 PM on 03/27/2010
I think the remedy is to form a National Committee to Blow Sarah Palin Away. Not violently, of course. When there are millions of us, we'll just huff and puff and blow her away. In the mean time we'll talk about blowing her away. When she's on TV we'll boycott her sponsors and we'll urge the "elite" media to only cover 97 per cent of what she says. We'll point out that she objects to the Federal government giving Trig and kids like him (some of whose parents don't have a million bucks) health care. And we'll point out that rather than being a good red blooded independent American (as she describes him from the podium) her husband is a nasty John Wilkes Booth secessionist.
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haval2
what to say?
01:39 PM on 03/26/2010
If you are shooting animals from a helicopter ... going after people is not a stretch for a mindset like hers.
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rebelriser
artist, published author, activist
01:37 PM on 03/26/2010
I believe we must urge President Obama and the House & Senate to enact laws or amendments to laws to make Palin's, Limbaugh's and other prominent poor loser Republicans's hate messages criminal actions or condusive to producing criminal actions. Notice how hate speech and vandalism have gone up since Palin was named by McCain, even worse than was perpetuated by Limbaugh & other Fox representatives before Palin raised her ugly head. If it is allowed to continue, it will gather momentum as evidensed since it first began during the '08 election after Palin began to use her words of encouragement for violence. It is a fact that negative grows faster than truth & positive.
03:42 PM on 03/29/2010
I totally disagree, if you criminalize unpopular speech, we all lose. Just let these people scream as loud as possible, so I know hot to get as far away from them as possible.
09:15 PM on 03/29/2010
"how" to get, not hot to get. Palin was never hot to me. Hasselbeck, though . . .
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LongTimeLiberal52
"Some things just need to be said..."
01:32 PM on 03/26/2010
Once again, it is disturbing to me that I haven't read a single Conservative comment on this thread which has the common human decency to at least BEGIN by simply denouncing hate-speech and violence as a matter of course - REGARDLESS of the perpetrator's political affiliation.

Not one.

Admittedly, heated language - and even the occasional well-aimed brick - have been a part of our adversarial political landscape since it began. That doesn't make it right, but it should caution those of us on the Left against blowing this latest round of political thuggery too far out of proportion.

Nevertheless, my brethren on the Right, we should at LEAST be able to unite in condemnation of...oh...let's say, intentionally cutting the gas line to someone's home (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/35040.html), for example. This is an act which can't be excused or explained or condoned under any circumstances - and especially not by reminding me that the SDS did desperate, terrible things 40 years ago.

Those weren't cool either.

But therein lies the difference I'm seeing between Left and Right. Confronted with evidence of similar excesses against Mr. Bush, for example, most Liberals will at least begin by admitting that those incidents were inexcusable as well. But when confronted with clear evidence of today's incidents by fringe elements of the Right, I find NO Conservative response other than "Well, you Libs did it too."

C'mon, Republicans - some issues plainly go beyond just Ds and Rs.
10:31 PM on 03/27/2010
I guess you didn't read my reply regarding the above news article about Sarah Palin. I am involved in the tea party movement, and WE ARE A NON-VIOLENT GROUP!! Any action we encourage is to vote those representives out of office in November, and to communicate with our representives on different issues. Anyone doing any violence does not represent the tea party movement!!
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Fireslayer
02:34 AM on 03/29/2010
That is not to say that the Tea Party (sic) is not a fully funded Republican front organization with no purpose but to appeal to hatred, confusion and insanity with lies, lies and more lies.

The more Americans learn about the astroturf origins and wingnut implications of your hate monger mob the more they disavow them.

Republicans are a shrinking small tent controlled by an extremist fringe with delusions of grandeur blown way out of proportion by Faux, their Insurance industry funders and hate radio.

Rave on, keep painting your twaddle spewing rabble into a farther than right corner.

You will go the way of the John Birch Society which you are now way to right of in your program.
MThomasNC
Retired, Sassy, Senior Citizen
12:42 PM on 03/26/2010
Right after the republicans won control of congress in 2002 and when they started dogging the dems, mocking the dems, etc., I told my son that the republicans were going to implode. Four years later they did. They became not conservative republicans but confederate republicans. Bush43 got appointed president in 2000, then only won by 2% of the votes in the 2004 Election, but he came out in January 2005 saying that he had a mandate, that he wanted to privatize Social Security - something he never mentioned on the campaign trail. Obama won by 7% of the votes, clearly a mandate. Now he is trying to do what he campaigned on and what the people voted for and congress is trying to give the people what they voted for, too. Even John McCain campaigned on reforming the health care system. So now that it's reformed Aunt Sarah is pissed off and targeting people. Go figure....

These confederate republicans are going to self destruct and hopefully before Nov 2. There is no civility with these confederate repubs. It got to be their way or the highway and they are still fighting the 'war betw the states'. They will lose again, and this time on national tv.
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karenz20
Fiscal Responsibility and Social Justice
11:51 AM on 03/26/2010
Her words and graphics would have have different conotations depending on the climate of the times.

We have now, in America, a situation never before experienced to my knowledge. A television network totally dedicated to one particular Party of government, And that network is the second most popular on TV according to HP.
In view of that fact and of the nature of debate over the health care proposals during the past year, packing guns at rallies, calling the President a Fascist, a Communist, a Racist, and politicians and supposedly fair and balanced new anchors prediciting doom, armagedon, the end of America as we know it, and the undisguised hatred for Liberals, Sarah Palin's metaphors are a diabolicle green light for some of the unhinged members of the Conservative point of view. She should be held accountable. It just shows her lack of sensitivity and depth.
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LongTimeLiberal52
"Some things just need to be said..."
12:55 PM on 03/26/2010
"...depending on the climate of the times."

Precisely. Exquisitely stated - your accurate list of unmistakably unnerving events clearly demonstrates why THIS climate demands restraint.

A true leader would automatically recognize the unique aspects of this moment in time, and take steps to keep vigorous public debate (which we should have) from degenerating into some potentially tragic incident, carried out by a fanatic. A true leader would automatically recognize the power of words to either calm or inflame. A true leader would automatically recognize that the REAL American ideal is about uniting rather than dividing.

Sadly, Ms. Palin's behavior, while not illegal, is irresponsible given the climate of these times - and adds yet one more example to the list of reasons she is not a true leader.
01:09 PM on 03/26/2010
A concise and accurate description of Faux News and the "unhinged members" of society that listen to and believe every word they hear from these traitorous thugs. Palin should, indeed, be held accountable, but instead, she's campaigning for McCain and getting her own TV show. Now, we're rewarding individuals for antisocial behavior.
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den1953
The National Inquire of Politics the GOP!
11:06 AM on 03/26/2010
Sarah Palin should be advised that there are always consequences to certain actions and living in Alaska won't insulate you from spewing hatred and bigotry , for some they can play the game but for others it could be there down fall!
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MountainPenelope
Hands off my micro-bio (& my Medicare)!
10:48 AM on 03/26/2010
Sista Sary was the first one to cry foul when the media refused to bow down to her Jerry Springer style family.

What she is doing is far worse. She holds sway over some of the k ookiest wing nuts out there. She is telling them where the targeted congressmen/senators live. If any member of the family of any of these people is injured or worse by her efforts, let's do hope she is charged with conspiracy and sued for every bit of her ill-gotten gain.

We do respect her right of free speech. We don't respect that she uses that right in a most heinous and irresponsible manner..
10:33 AM on 03/26/2010
"Their locations on a map of the United States are marked by crosshairs - a symbol that clearly refers to target practice and violence. "


Bit of a stretch to say the least
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DevonTexas
Eternal Optimism
11:03 AM on 03/26/2010
and how does a crosshair not indicate violence? What more do you need for this to be offensive?
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Gingersp
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11:22 AM on 03/26/2010
She could have marked it with anything else, a flower, an American flag...... Why did she choose a crosshair symbol? I disagree with the writer of this article. I believe that Sarah Palin crossed the line. If anyone had done this during the Bush administration, they would have been arrested.
bert70
I'm now 74, time flies when your having fun.
10:22 AM on 03/26/2010
julieintx; that's what the teapartiers called themselves when first they started their movement. Then they were educated to what a teabagger is. Then it became a bad word. outsiders had to educate them again, it's sad but they are quite ignorant when it comes to anything worldly.
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Dan Garfinkel
10:03 AM on 03/26/2010
People who are impotent because they are not able to effectively and positively add to the serious discussions do become violent. It's too bad that we have politicians like Palin that speak to this segment of the population, rather than to the folks that actually use their minds to sort through the complicated issues. No, she may not be advocating violence, but she should know that many in her audience are trigger happy and she does nothing to discourage them.
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patches12
09:41 AM on 03/26/2010
Another stalking horse argument. People on the Left are so damned worried about Sarah Palin's speech.

If you didn't have double standards you would have none at all.

What you and liberals like you can't stand is that Palin didn't go quietly into the night after you and your shills in the Press went after her and her family. The hate, slander and misinformation campaing against Palin only made her stronger and it is just making you'all sick!!

Your article didn't bring anything new to the table.. its just that you love to talk about her... can't help it...
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Dan Bernard
"Animal Farm" said it all.
09:59 AM on 03/26/2010
Way to gloss over the subject. I wonder what your comment would be if Dems released a "hit list" like this of Republicans. Fakers like Cantor ("I've been shot at, too! Really!") and bullies like Boehner would be apoplectic. Your Rush/Glenntard duo would be freaking out in Biblical proportions.
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rebelriser
artist, published author, activist
01:44 PM on 03/26/2010
This is stupidity. I thought the ignorant trolls maybe were learning the difference between lies and truth, but of course, they wouldn't have the brains to recognize truth anyway.
09:37 AM on 03/26/2010
Thanks for the explanation. I took some courses in Constitutional law in the past, and couldn't remember the exact wording of the decisions on the limits of free speech. I'd say Palin, and others, are quite close. It's worrisome. Truthfully, without considering whether their actions are criminal or not, they should hold some personal standards themselves which I consider their responsibility as elected officials. They obviously hold different values.
The problem in Palin's case is that she's always complaining about how she is treated and attacked, yet she's so vicious herself.
09:27 AM on 03/26/2010
I guess if she had used an X, that you would be complaining that she meant them harm too. You know targets have X's on them too.