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GOP Must Choose: Ayn Rand or Jesus

Posted: 05/27/11 01:25 PM ET

I recently wrote on why Democrats and progressives need to take some time studying Ayn Rand to fully understand the political significance of all the GOP leaders lining up to praise her. The GOP has a huge problem if their conservative religious base finds out what Rand really believed and how influential she is within senior GOP circles.

Amy Sullivan published a piece in TIME last week highlighting this disconnect and American Values Network's (AVN) memo on it. There is a great piece in the Louisville Courier-Journal. Rev. Jen Butler at Faith in Public Life (FPL) did a piece last week pointing out the problem Rep. Paul Ryan has trying to reconcile Catholic social teaching and Rand. And FPL affiliate, Faithful America, just put up a Rand vs. Bible website.

But perhaps the most damning of all was the statement put out by Conservative Christian icon, Chuck Colson. Chuck Colson is one of the lions of the Christian right and the head of Prison Fellowship, which, all politics aside, is the best thing coming from the Christian right and a powerful ministry to a segment of society even progressives often ignore. But Colson condemned the strong support of Rand in Republican and conservative circles and urged his followers not only to stay away from the new film of Rand's book Atlas Shrugged, but to "stay away from anyone who intends to watch the film." Colson goes on to say Rand and her followers were precisely the types of "cranks" and "crypto-cultists" that his friend Bill Buckley had fought to purge from conservative ranks. He says the "real problem with Rand is the world view her novels and other writings sought to inculcate in her readers... it's hard to imagine a world view more antithetical to Christianity."

So what is Colson talking about? A week before his statement, American Values Network released a damning memo with a large number of Rand quotes where she says she is out to destroy the Church and Judeo-Christian morality. She argued that people had to choose between following her teachings or those of Christianity and other religious traditions. Rand said religion was "evil," called the message of John 3:16 "monstrous," argued that the weak are beyond love and undeserving of it, that loving your neighbor was immoral and impossible and that she was out to undermine the idea that charity was a moral duty and virtue.

She must have been a real joy at cocktail parties, huh? And that is just a sampling.

So what was the GOP response to this attack on Judeo-Christian and family values, not to mention on Christ himself?

"Ayn Rand, you've got to love Ayn Rand. She's great." -- Glenn Beck

"Rand more than anyone else did a fantastic job of explaining the morality of capitalism, the morality of individualism... It's that kind of thinking, that kind of writing that is sorely needed right now." -- Author of the GOP Budget, Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI)

"I am a fan of Ayn Rand, and I've read all her novels." -- Senator Rand Paul (R-KY)

"The brilliant writer and novelist, Ayn Rand."-- Rush Limbaugh

Senator Ron Johnson (R-WI) said Atlas Shrugged is his "foundational book." [click here to read more quotes and find citations].

And despite Colson's warnings, FOX spent weeks promoting Rand's new movie and encouraging viewers to go see it... advice most every member of the GOP leadership took to heart!

Hard to reconcile leaders of "God's Own Party" praising someone who is about as anti Christ as one can get, huh? That is exactly what we thought, and so AVN created a video highlighting exactly that contrast.

You really need to watch the video. Trust me...it's damning. Tweet it (#randvsjesus). Like it. Blog it. And spread the word.

This is issue could be a game-changer. It uncovers the heartless GOP and Tea Party wolves who've been parading around in sheep's clothing among the Christian flock, leading them astray. Christians, especially conservative ones, know what to look out for. We need to expose it.

 
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01:52 AM on 06/01/2011
ATLAS SHRUGGED PART 1 - Christian Movie Review
http://www.movieguide.org/reviews/movie/atlas-shrugged-part-1.html

This movie is pro capitalism... and that's it. Of course the left doesn't want anyone to see it.
03:08 AM on 06/01/2011
Another good write up that explains why the liberal left are against the movie.

http://www.morgancountycitizen.com/?q=node/17340
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MJinCanada
Safe from zombies until my 2nd cup of coffee
02:51 AM on 06/04/2011
1) Forest Drug Company. Whatever happened to personal responsibility FOR CEOS? Why didn't Howard Solomon know that his company was illegally marketing anti-depressants for children? Doesn't he take responsibility for that sort of thing as CEO? Antidepressants have been known to contribute to child and teen suicides -- looks like Solomon and company weren't into the self-correcting free market and enlightened self-interest thing.
2) Carla Marinucci broke a "no cameras/no video" rule. Dumb rule, sure. However, the White House didn't prevent her from reporting on the protest.
3) How gullible can some people be? If I was running a large business and assigned a team to review contract bids, I would darn well want to know if any of the competitors were wining and dining one or two members of the team. Why shouldn't all members of government know exactly who is living in the contractors' pockets? Why should corruption be protected by secrecy?
4) EPA. Environmental Protection Agency. Fred Johnson is apparently utterly clueless about how important wetlands are in the environment and why they need protection. Wetlands are natural drainage systems, water filters, nurseries for hundreds of species from fish to frogs to waterfowl.

Eh, but why try to confuse a libertarian with facts?
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MJinCanada
Safe from zombies until my 2nd cup of coffee
01:47 PM on 06/06/2011
"Because of government intervention in the marketplace, the infrastructure of the United States is falling apart, and it is hard to keep the railway running."

Humongous Flaw #1 -- How much of US infrastructure is actually maintained by private companies? It's a widely-documented fact that railroads have been taxpayer subsidized since the beginning.
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martingibsonusa
Believe all thngs, be careful for nothing,
08:27 PM on 05/30/2011
Make it mandatory that every politician that wants to serve in any of the three branches would have to endure 4 years of trying to survive on minimum wage with no benefits before they are allowed to take office.
12:46 PM on 06/01/2011
I kinda like that idea. Political power needs to be much harder to achieve.
12:28 AM on 05/30/2011
What's wonderful is that Ayn Rand has got Coulson and other leaders talking about Jesus Christ's instruction to give charity and assistance to the weak and needy more than I've heard in a long time! Maybe we can get leaders to notice the disconnect between Christ's teachings and the Bush Tax Cuts.
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Eric Sapp
Husband. Xtian. Founder Eleison & AVN
01:15 AM on 05/30/2011
Exactly. If we go about it the other way and talk about the policies, folks get blinded by the politics. This is a way to break through that. Once they question the faith claims, they take a second look at the policy.
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Vic22
"I write to make it right, don't like what I see"
12:26 AM on 05/30/2011
I always delight as I watch right win.gers try to reconcile the teachings of Jesus to their beliefs in destroying the social safety net.

Linguistic gymnastics
09:43 PM on 05/29/2011
MIsrepresentation of Ayn Rand is all the opponents of her and her ideas can come up with. To posit Christianity as a valid philosophy after 2000 years of failure to address fundamentals and clinging to altruistic platitudes is hardly an argument for continuing the same crap. I suggest anyone who wants to criticize Ayn Rand's ideas read for themselves what she had to say and forget about quoting people who have no idea what her philosophy is all about. Her ideas stand up well when examined by thinking minds not hung up on clinging to dogma.
beachgirlchix
We Will Not Be Silent!
12:01 AM on 05/30/2011
I just watched her interview with Mike Wallace. Sapp is right on with his info. You might want to actually do some research on Rand herself rather than getting all your info from her works of fiction. You might find that she was quite the dictator of her little group, forcing the members to swear off reading the opposing viewpoint, excommunicating them if they pissed her off, etc...Not very freedom inspiring.
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Eric Sapp
Husband. Xtian. Founder Eleison & AVN
01:18 AM on 05/30/2011
You'll notice all we do is use her own words...and those are even limitted by the space of a short video. Read her quotes in the memo (which have citations and links to the full interviews lest anyone question context). She was at least honest about her motivations, and while her philosophy was unredeemably flawed and representative of a horribly sad world view, she at least understood where adoption of it would lead...the end of Judeo-Christian morality. And that is the kind of thinking and morality the Republican budget is built upon.
07:52 PM on 05/29/2011
Of course GOP Christians are going to choose Jesus over Rand. But that doesn't mean all of her ideas and beliefs must be rejected. As much as Rand herself would have liked all her views to have been anti Christian.. they are not. Some of her beliefs are part of the very basis of Christianity, and it is THOSE views that all of those notable people quoted above are in agreement with Rand over.. NOT her specific Christian views. It would have been nice if links to the actual quotes were listed for the purpose of context. As it stands I find this article extremely deceptive and agenda driven.

"Free will" is an important fundamental aspect of Christianity... and guess what? Also with Rand.

"Individualism"... same as above.

These are basic beliefs of both... it's not possible to choose one or the other in regards to these fundamental beliefs.. and it's not necessary.

I reject Rand's anti Christian beliefs but I strongly agree with many of her political beliefs.

Same with Glenn Beck ironically. He continues to be my political "hero" but his religious beliefs
are, I believe, anti Christian. Just because you disagree with a person on some of their views, doesn't mean you must then disagree with ALL their views. cont.
08:04 PM on 05/29/2011
cont..

And that is what the author here is insisting.

Yes, Rand claimed that her views cannot be shared by Christians but, she was wrong... some can. And others can be condemned for the sheer hatred based views that they are. Being "choosey and discerning" is a great example of utililizing that "free will" thing...( ironically for Rand and also for the author here).
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BuckJ
I read a book once.
09:40 PM on 05/29/2011
""Free will" is an important fundamenta­l aspect of Christiani­ty"

Not if you believe in predestination. As the first settlers of the US did. (Frankly, Calvinism is still a major force in America.)

They were also big conformity, specifically with regard to holding to strict religious doctrine. So individualism is out for them as well.
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Eric Sapp
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05:52 PM on 05/29/2011
Great conversation here folks. Let's keep spreading the word with friends to keep the broader conversation going. Tweet #randvsjesus, and stay tuned for our next projects. This is just the begining. I hope everyone has a wonderful Memorial Day and has some time to reflect on all we have and are blessed with...and what responsibilities that brings.
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1highstepper
You're d@mn right I'm voting for Obama!
02:57 PM on 05/29/2011
It is quite befitting that some of the GOP leadership embrace the teachings of someone who refers to individuals as inferiors.
12:13 PM on 05/29/2011
Capitalism has just one God .. PROFIT. People have God .. Who possibly gave us all each other, to live with, laugh with, love with and lean on each other if necessary. If individualism is so important to these GOPers, they could each go live on an island by themselves and rely ONLY on themselves ... how well will they manage?! hey, maybe a lot of us enjoy being there for and with each other. For sure I know I get a heck of a lot more for my taxes in america than in many other countries... those who resent paying taxes can find quite a few places in the world to move to.... don't count on roads or clean water or electricity or ambulances or police ... or 911 though!
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1highstepper
You're d@mn right I'm voting for Obama!
02:58 PM on 05/29/2011
That was interesting Maya68, thanks.
09:45 PM on 05/29/2011
Written by an individual I suppose.
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MJinCanada
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03:29 AM on 06/04/2011
An individual who understands that she is part of a community and part of society.
11:19 AM on 05/29/2011
There are many problems with this article. First, when it comes to valuing life and people on earth, nothing beats Objectivism, Ayn Rand's philosophy. Objectivism is about life on earth and about pursuing life and happiness, i.e. pro-life values. A big part of that is friends and other people you interact with regularly. Few things in life are a higher value than other rights respecting people. And those people you love will be of highest value to your life. Your life is the highest value, yet someone you love could be such a high value that to lose that person would make life almost impossible, so another person can be a supremely high value, and this is often the case, anyway.

As to religion, she didn't believe in any form of mysticism, because to act on things that are outside of the evidence is to act without reason. Nobody has ever met this god guy. Nobody has ever provided evidence for him, let alone proof of his existence. It is highly irrational and immoral to then expect people to live their whole lives by something for which there is no evidence. It's illogical, and when you do that you make *reality* your enemy. The real world is what you are up against. This is why it's evil, because you do yourself in by believing in arbitrary nonsense.

Ayn Rand believed that people should *think* for themselves and draw their own conclusions by a process of reason.
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abgesq2000
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07:36 PM on 05/29/2011
I believe you have missed the point. He is saying, rightfully, that those on the Right who claim to be Evangelical Christians cannot support both Rand and Jesus. In America, people can choose to believe or not believe in whatever god they want or no god at all. The Republicans, with their abortion laws, anti-gay laws, etc. are trying to impose their beliefs on the rest of America. That in and of itself is bad enough. But, because those beliefs are supposedly Christian-based while simultaneously being AynRand-based makes them all the more problematic. With these points, I don't think there can be much argument. If you are going to shove your beliefs down the throats of everyone, at least let those beliefs be reconcilable with each other.
10:53 PM on 05/29/2011
I know what his point was. I was only correcting fundamental misrepresentations of Ayn Rand's philosophy that were in the article by Sapp.

Also, I should correct you. Objectivism is not anti-gay or anti-abortion. Objectivism is pro-choice and there are a lot of gays who are Objectivists. I would say a higher percentage than in the general population. In politics her ideas are very much in line with *individual rights* and the founding fathers. This is why her philosophy is so pro-American.

Btw, many conservatives know that Ayn Rand was an atheist. Rush Limbaugh knows it full well, for example. He said it in the 1990s, when he first became aware of her work. What guys like Rush see is the strength of her arguments. That's what appeals to them, I'm sure.
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Eric Sapp
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01:28 AM on 05/30/2011
Exactly...there is only one sin in the New Testament that gets the divine death penality: hypocrisy. The issue is that the GOP has made a bunch of claims about faith, and now they have to answer whom they truly serve.
10:59 AM on 05/29/2011
More proof that GOP leaders don't vet before they endorse.
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Edward Goodwin
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06:09 AM on 05/29/2011
What so many of the religionistas either willfully ignore, or deliberately down-play is that they can't have an official "Christian Nation." They want the State to adopt an official religion, there is no Christian religion.

Christianity is a FAITH. Protestantism and Catholicism are religions. Protestantism and Catholicism are historically diametrically opposed to one another, to put it mildly. If politicians begin to demand that the U.S. be declared a "Christian Nation", folks WILL NOT let it go at that.

They will ask, nay...they will demand to know which Christians these people are talking about. There can be only one State Religion. Anyone who does not belong to that religion will run the very, very,very,very,very,very real risk of being treated as a potential enemy of the state.

We are not a Christian nation. We never were and the founding fathers never intended that we should be. Nor were they Capitalists. Capitalism, as we know it today, didn't exist in the 18th century.

The founding fathers were Mercantilists, as was most of Europe at that time. That was back in the days when "trade wars" were quite literal.
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MonthlyBeast
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06:49 AM on 05/29/2011
Already fanned, yet again another fave.

Pat Robertson is one of the leaders of those who constantly declare that the US is a "Christi-an nation," rolling the word Christian off his tongue in his peculiar, unctuous manner. This is the man who received a law degree but then could not pass the bar, for what are now obvious reasons. That he has no understanding of the truth regarding the ideas and principles guiding the founders of this nation matters not a whit to his followers. In this example you can find the perfect paradigm for the entire GOP and the so-called Christian right.

Again, the GOP/TP cabal constantly asserts that capitalism is the bedrock of the American experiment, as if it is as much an element of the forging of this country as the separation of powers, representative government, or the Bill of Rights. One needs only to do a word search in the Constitution to ascertain that that word, let alone any similar concept, is entirely absent from that document.

It would be good if the American public was educated enough to recognize all these sham assertions of the right for what they are. I'm not optimistic that this is the case or that it is likely to get any better.
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noteaforme
The Tea Party parties like it's 1399.
08:55 AM on 05/29/2011
Awesome!
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Francois Bergeron
seeking sense
05:43 AM on 05/29/2011
If you took out Jesus and Rand from the Gopher equation, I imagine a bunch of chickens with no heads running around looking for direction.
04:11 AM on 05/29/2011
The morality of capitalism? How about the morality of cheating on your wife?
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TheRoosterman
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02:19 AM on 05/29/2011
All the 7 deadly sins wrapped nicely in the GOP. But I think Gluttony take the cake with these buttheads.