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Hu's Coming to Dinner: A Year After the Google-China Dust-Up, Has Anything Changed?

Posted: 01/14/11 06:33 PM ET

On Jan. 19, China's President Hu Jintao will attend a state dinner at the White House. This comes about a year since his government and Google Corporation duked it out over Google's refusal to abide by the PRC's laws to control internet content. There were punches thrown and punches pulled. The heavyweight fight was sort of a draw, with no clear winner or loser. Now is a good time to revisit what the dust-up meant then, what it means today, and what it might mean for the future of U.S.-China relations.

The conflict should have been a teachable moment for American companies and those responsible for the design and conduct of U.S. foreign policy. Rightly framed, it could have been a moment to talk about the prospects for a post-industrial age foreign policy for the United States. The Department of State, the Office of the United States Trade Representative, and others in the executive branch could have concluded that the U.S.'s key private sector players are now technology firms, and the nation's policies should keep those firms' interests -- and abilities -- in mind. Companies and their industry associations, meanwhile, could have learned that closer engagement with the policy process could be beneficial.

But for the most part these potentials have not come to pass. American high-tech companies remain heavy hitters economically at home and abroad, but continue to punch way below their weight politically. They remain heavyweight boxers hitting with the power of welterweights. History shows clearly that the dominant economic modes of a country will eventually throw their weight around in domestic, and eventually, foreign policy. But it is now clear that the Google-China match was not the start of a new age of digital diplomacy.

When President Hu comes to Washington, it is unlikely that he will confront much organized or coherent criticism from tech industry leaders; a state dinner rarely offers the opportunity for heart-to-heart talks on substantive issues. But outstanding issues do need to be worked out in non-governmental settings, away from the cameras and temptation to posture. So, then, what's occurred during the less ceremonial 12 months between Google's flare up and Hu's triumphant state visit? In brief:

1. Private companies: Since Google sparred with China, the company has actually stepped up its rhetorical engagements in U.S. international affairs. Most notably, Eric Schmidt, Google's CEO, co-wrote a manifesto of sorts in Foreign Affairs, the most prestigious establishment journal of record. The piece characterizes "the interconnected estate," a riff on the model of the media as "the fourth estate." The piece acknowledges that IT companies' products "are inherently political," and boasts that such products can be "more useful" than a nation's traditional diplomatic efforts.

As a sign of the times perhaps, Schmidt's co-author for the piece was none other than Jared Cohen, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's former adviser on these issues. Cohen, a 29-year-old wunderkind, along with Alec Ross, Clinton's Senior Advisor on Innovation, were the main subjects of a New York Times Magazine story last summer on the new digital diplomacy. But Cohen is no longer working for State. His new title is Director of Google Ideas -- the company's new "think/do tank."

Ratcheting up the engagement a notch, Schmidt (and Cohen) appeared before the Council on Foreign Relations in New York as part of its CEO Speaker Series, which is designed to "highlight the increasing importance of the international business community to U.S. foreign policy." [The Chronicle, December, 2010, p. 5] That's some hyperbole, because the good ol' industrial CEOs have always played to the Council and other important foreign policy bodies; it's only the New Economy bosses who are relatively recent players and whose presence can be called "increasing."

Microsoft's President Steve Ballmer last year did call out Chinese businesses -- but not the government -- over piracy issues. And Intel maintains a Global Public Policy staff and a related public blog. But other industries have a more robust presence in Washington.

2. Industry Associations: Beyond individual companies, what about the trade associations that represent their interests in Washington and internationally? They aren't doing enough, either. The U.S. Chamber of Commerce devotes plenty of space on its website's home page to noting how to follow the Chamber on Facebook and Twitter, but dig deeper and there's not much there. TechNet, an alliance which includes eBay and many other familiar corporate names, boasts of having held 1,000 meetings with politicians during the past 10 years; its listed topics include patent reform and tax policy. Closer to where all such associations ought to be, Business Software Alliance's site speaks of working with the Department of Commerce on intellectual property rights disputes with China -- pirating issues, essentially. And in another positive, but modest sign, the multi-stakeholder Global Network Institute -- in which USC's Annenberg School for Communication & Journalism is a participant -- last year released an annual report connecting human rights issues and internet censorship.

3. The White House: President Obama and the rest of the executive branch have mostly allowed the State Department to lead on this issue. The White House has not presented an overarching vision of a new foreign policy for a new digital age. Across the river, the Defense Department has spoken loudly on matters ranging from cybersecurity to drones, but not surprisingly sticks closely to security.

4. The State Department: If any of the possible players have stepped into the ring, it's been a handful of digital foreign policy pugilists in the State Department. Fortunately, the handful includes Clinton and a small coterie of advisers around her that have been pushing the rhetorical envelope. In the same Foreign Affairs volume [Nov / Dec 2010] that included Schmidt and Cohen's piece, Clinton wrote an essay titled, "Leading Through Civilian Power," linking her vision of "21st Century Statecraft" to the major review of diplomacy and development in her recently invented and issued Quadrennial Diplomacy and Development Review.

5. Beyond the nice words, we see some modest actions. The State Department co-sponsored an "Apps <4> Africa" competition to aid civil society growth, which helped launch text-message-based social networks in Pakistan and Haiti. Famously, State spoke with Twitter founder Jack Dorsey on the eve of a Tehran protest and the company postponed scheduled site maintenance that helped the protesters.

Domestically, the Department hosted several meetings between high-level technology executives and the Secretary and her advisors, including Dorsey, NYU guru Clay Shirky, and the Webby's Tiffany Shlain. Clinton's team has also taken industry leaders on trade missions to Russia, Iraq, Syria, Mexico, and Columbia. And there have been discrete meetings in Silicon Valley around these issues. Still, these are just starting steps in a long journey.

6. Think Tanks: These groups haven't been as prolific, or as potent, on this big-picture subject as they should be. Brookings published Networked Foreign Policy in 2008 and the Heritage Foundation hosted web commentary on the Obama administration's use of social media tools during and around his Cairo speech. The CFR, RAND and Carnegie occasionally point to these digital, networked issues. The Los Angeles-based Pacific Council on International Policy -- on whose board I sit -- has enlisted me to lecture on the topic and PCIP delegations have traveled north to meet Silicon Valley executives. On Jan. 17 and 18, the Aspen Institute will convene a high level meeting in LA of public, private and NGO leaders as part of its IDEA project run by former FCC chair Reed Hundt on global issues like IPR and open internet. But think tanks and universities also need to do much more in this space.

As a thought experiment, let us imagine a parallel universe. There, a parallel Obama administration presides over the birthing of an innovative, new networked digital foreign policy. But in our own all-too-real universe, the United States is still fighting two land wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. The old industrial-age, oil-fixated "wise men" of the Bush administration were pathologically fixated on the past, on the old-style power markers of imperial foreign policy -- oil, territory and us-vs.-them ideology. This leaves Clinton and her team little policy space in which to invent the future, as the demands of the daily overwhelm what might otherwise be easier. The old is dying but the new is not yet born.

The long and the short of it is that when President Hu shows up in Washington on the 19th, he will probably enjoy his meal. He will find an American foreign policy establishment still ordered pretty much along industrial age lines, with industrial age priorities.

Maybe we have to wait for another year to see if the political agitation and policy actions begun last year will move more purposefully toward a new foreign policy for the digital age. A year ago there was still some talk about "China's Peaceful Rise." Since that term has been jettisoned by the Chinese, maybe that's another thing we can import. Anyone for "Google's Peaceful Rise?" Or, even more ambitiously, "America's Peaceful Return."

 
 
 
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12:07 AM on 01/16/2011
"...heavyweight fight was sort of a draw, with no clear winner or loser..."

You, Ernest J. Wilson, are so wrong. Google lost big time.

Did you ever think to talk to anyone living in China before you formed your opinions? I think not.

The only reason we still have Google access through their Hong Kong server is because a large majority of top Chinese academics needed the access for research and continuing collaboration with western associates. (Chinese based search engines return far fewer hits.)

But although Hong Kong residents enjoy non-censored access to the net, we here on the mainland still have to deal with the "Great Fire Wall," and constantly increasingly efforts to control available content. It can get frustrating. It is now almost impossible to download or play a video from a foreign site, even with a VPN. Sometimes, but seldom.

I can't remember the exact source but during the initial threats by Google to leave China, one of the top people in the government said words to the effect of "If they want to be in China they will follow our laws." And that, despite all the posturing was the end of the discussion.

By the way, in spite of Google saying they have returned to the Chinese market, we are still routed through their Hong Kong server. Go figure.
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02:42 PM on 01/15/2011
Whos coming to dinner.
02:11 PM on 01/15/2011
OK is the USA supposed to put pressure on china to change the situation on the people there?
No!
Let have a look at consumer products?
world biggest customer in china? USA
world third biggest customer in china? Wal-Mart
Everytime somebody went shopping there one job ist lost and another is created. And china is not the loser in this nice game. Buy cheap and die!
Without china, Americas shelfs would be empty very fast.
And don't expect the American industry to fill the gap. You lost more than 20% of production capacity in the last years. Subtract aviation, military and some other major businesses and you will soon realize that Americas strength was some myth from the past. We European peaple are leader in most technical products, Asia is very strong in cheap mass products. But they are getting better every day
And further, guess who where all the money came from to pay for achievements like the Department for homeland security or the current war activities. Be realistic. If china wanted their money back you wouldn't even be able to pay back half of it. And I guess china will not be satisfied with Alaska...

And have a look at their military strength. They have developed from a copy of some old Russian fighters to some semi-compeditor for the F22 in less than 20 years!

But don't worry. If china's pollution rate keeps up with it's economical growth, the problem will solve itself.
05:31 PM on 01/15/2011
"Americas shelfs" (sic) were a lot better before they've drowned in Chinese low quality landfill-fill. You probably weren't here to see it, but that's the truth.
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ewldest
I don't care "whose" war it is - end it now
01:39 PM on 01/15/2011
An interesting article, but rather like commenting on a checkers match by asking why they're not playing chess.
Asking for new loans and interest adjustments is almost certainly why the US invited Hu to dinner. And a blind man can see what the Chinese will be asking for in return - reduced regulation of what they export here, additional corporate job-shipping to China, increased say in American foreign policy. And they will get it.
The White House is covering over this with the usual blather about pressing China on "human rights," as if the nation that invented Gitmo, renditions, etc., and popularized waterboarding has anything to say on the matter.
Also on the agenda should be Korea, but it won't be - the strangely waffling cold-war approach to Kim Il Jong that Bush developed, and that pushed NK's nuke program into success, remains in place.
As for the the question of the furter development of tech-based global capitalism, forget it. China's approach is cautious, even sometimes stodgy; but at least they know what that's all about. Americans still think some fantasy-land "free market" can produce the greatest innovation. Actually, careful management of strategies between competing monopolies in financing is the ground of the current globalism. In the West the Great Recession has proven nearly catastrophic, and we see no real renaissance of political economy on the near horizon. In China it was a minor set back from which they have already fully recovered.
05:38 PM on 01/15/2011
That's a decent analysis of the situation. Thanks.
12:24 PM on 01/15/2011
Religious fanaticism is destroying America The United States of Jesus is taking over they banned embryo stem cells and trying to introduce Creationism in science..... were falling behind in Science and pretty much every other area.....
12:17 PM on 01/15/2011
Quote: "The heavyweight fight was sort of a draw, with no clear winner or loser."

That's a strange way to describe the result - China made off with BOTH the US industry and money which the US has to do without, of course. On top of that, the printing press is continuously pumping more in the SAME DIRECTION.

A Draw? Only one side was fighting, while the other was performing a strip dance.

(OK, the quote was about a specific company, but "digital policy" is a very bizarre concern when REAL policy is way out of the bounds of sanity)
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09:55 AM on 01/15/2011
A whole lot changed since then China has received many more American jobs, China is much more advanced in technology, their infrastructure is far more superior and they own much more American assets, including the recent bank note of 1.3 trillion this nation just borrowed to give the wealthy a tax break. Life goes on and China owns the American way.......
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02:07 AM on 01/15/2011
Thank goodness China cleaned up all that pesky 'Human rights Violations' stuff. Didn't you just hate to hear about that Debbie downer stuff when taking trade with them. Now that it's "all taken care of" we can go about trade in good conscience.

Thank you Ambien!
01:28 AM on 01/15/2011
Wait. China censors. Google lost. We lost. That is not a draw.

China is no friend.
A state dinner is undeserved.
Corporations lining up to sell us out should be vocally ridiculed, including Google that still does business in China.
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12:35 AM on 01/15/2011
The only thing that has changed is more transparency in government thanks to Wikileaks.
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MikeDu
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11:53 PM on 01/14/2011
America's leaders will ask China for advice on how to better emulate their 'capitalist authoritarian' form of governance. The Cheney/Bush admin went a long way towards shaping the executive brance along the Chinese model. But we're quite not there yet. Once our economy recovers lets see what they're going to be willing to do to our liberties in the name of keeping the economy 'strong'.
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09:34 PM on 01/14/2011
I suppose China's leader will be presenting those loan papers to the President to sign after that tax give away to the rich?
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09:30 PM on 01/14/2011
But now China is jumping in the sack with Wall Street. What good will develop from this?

"BEIJING: China has sent out signals that it will buy friendship with the United States with market access. It has opened doors for two New York-based investment bankers—JP Morgan and Morgan Stanley—ahead of Chinese president Hu Jintao's meeting with Barack Obama in Washington on January 18."

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/international-business/JP-Morgan-Morgan-Stanley-get-China-nod/articleshow/7239928.cms
07:36 PM on 01/14/2011
What has changed is China is about to be first in the world. First in high speed trains, first in green energy, first in education, first in declining populTION THnks to the one child policy, first in currency, first militarily, and first in moving forward and not backwards thanks to its acceptance of the need to change and change quickly since the old way wasn't working just like the old way isn't working in America. But Sarah Palin, the Westboro Church, corporations will continue to keep America slip sliding down.
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11:13 PM on 01/14/2011
We had a 'zero population' revolution in the 70's, so this idea is not new. Not about SP and the Westboro church, America is not slipping, it just needs to do what we do best,.....think, freely, without government.............
12:35 AM on 01/15/2011
Goldwater - zero population growth is not like the one child policy. And unfortunately America has slipped. Under Reagan it went from being a creditor nation to a debtor nation and now forty cents of every tax dollar goes to service the debt. And of those forty cents per dollar do you think went to China to build high speed trains and educational systems etc. Not only that the offshoring of jobs means fewer Americans are paying any tax at all since they are unemployed and or living in the street. China was virtually nothing when Reagan took office and prior to that Americans thought freely. They led in science and medicine. Now America ranks twenty fifth in math. And so they don't think freely. They think cheap gas and coal is the cure all. Even single payer medical care - OMG that is socialism. Let the unworthy die because they can't affor a doctor. Keep on dreaming about America that was and America that is.
07:20 AM on 01/15/2011
I've spent quite a bit of time there, from Hunan in the South up to Jilin province in the north. While I do not have a great deal of love for the Chinese gov. I would live there permanently if it was permitted because I have met no one else on the planet as friendly, unassuming and morally centered as the majority of Chinese citizens are. The gov. and many people there having an internal "war of 3 kingdoms", i.e. Communism, Capitalism and Confucianism. Unlike our self serving, I want what I want, when I want it short sighted culture they have over 2000 years of practice with delayed gratification and an ingrained familial cohesion that will not permit industrialism to tear families apart like it did here. They respect and honor teachers and education and have a work ethic that blows us out of the water. The biggest difference between people I met there and people I know here is that they ask themselves, "what can WE do to improve our destiny", we ask, "how much can I get from this". And before you start pointing fingers, do some reading on where the FCC, Verizon and AT&T want to do with our internet. Internet ID cards? Come on Obama... that's a far cry from any definition of Liberalism that I've seen.

In any case, I started learning Mandarin some time ago. Don't waste your time learning French or Latin. Zai jain folks