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Frank Schaeffer

Frank Schaeffer

Posted: November 5, 2008 11:44 AM

President Obama: Bad News For the New Atheists and Other Fundamentalists


The Obama presidency is great news for almost everyone. It's bad news for some odd ideological bedfellows: the Religious Right and the so-called New Atheists.

Into the all or nothing culture wars, and the all or nothing wars between the so-called New Atheists and religion the election of President elect Obama reintroduces nuance. President elect Obama's ability to believe in Jesus, yet question, is going to rescue American religion in general and Christianity in particular, from the extremes.

There is no way to understand President elect Obama's victory as anything less than the start of not just a monumental political change but a spiritual revolution as well.

Full disclosure: I was raised by American missionaries -- Francis and Edith Schaeffer -- who became leaders within the American Evangelical subculture. When I was in my twenties I was their sidekick. We Schaeffers had a lot to do with the formation of the Religious Right. (Sorry!) In the mid 1980s I escaped my tribe's literal-minded religion and currently go to a Greek Orthodox Church. I've also been one of President elect Obama's most vocal and prolific -- judging by the amount I've written -- supporters.

The pro and anti God industry churns. I know. I've worked this turf for years. But there is a new sheriff on the religion beat. He's smart! President elect Obama is a knowledgeable fan of the theologian Reinhold Niebuhr, has lectured seriously on his faith and the relationship of church and state, and is not a nominal Christian for political purposes, but someone who actually prays, believes and lives his faith.

To the New Atheists who think that with the resounding defeat of the Religious Right, we are entering a secular age, think again. Obama will block your path. He'll do it for the same reason he'll make the Religious Right's paranoid fantasies about him soon seem shamefully ridiculous. That's because President elect Obama is that rarest of all rare people: a thoughtful, compassionate and likable statesman who also is a thoughtful, compassionate and likable religious believer.

In the last few years there has been a spate of best selling books published that are for or against religion. All of them are by literalists who speak in fundamentalist tones. On the pro-religion side we find A Purpose Driven Life and the Left Behind series extolling a Jesus-solves-everything one note evangelical born-again message. On the flip side are the equally evangelistic one note New Atheist books including Sam Harris's The End of Faith, Daniel Dennett's Breaking the Spell, Richard Dawkins's The God Delusion and Christopher Hitchens's God Is Not Great.

The New Atheists' books provided a context for Bill Maher's movie Religulous, the most blunt instrument imaginable. Maher's documentary expands what Harris started in his book The End of Faith. Harris begins his book with a scene of a young Islamic terrorist in Jerusalem smiling as he commits suicide while blowing up a bus full of innocent people. In Religulous, Maher gleefully includes many more images of look-how-crazy-God-makes-everyone, religion-inspired violence. The Harris/Maher message is as clear: the world would be better off without religion.

There is another message in the Maher/New Atheist oeuvre: everyone must think in categories stripped of allegory. Forget the idea that perhaps one may hold two contradictory ideas at the same time, say that none of the stories in the Bible happened as written, but that they are true in more subtle ways than mere historicity, or that we're nothing but jumped up chimps, but are also connecting to a deeper reality when we say, "the Lord is my shepherd" and hope that he is.

The New Atheists don't seem to "get" grown up allegory any more than the fundamentalists of the Religious Right do, let alone literary imagination. And both the Religious right and the New Atheists also seems oblivious to serious religious thinkers from Confucius to the Sufi poets, from Reinhold Niebur to one of Reinhold Niebuhr's biggest fans; President elect Obama.

Maher's world contains no Pastor Deitrick Bonhoffer (martyred for trying to assassinate Hitler, and who defined the intellectual and theological terms for resistance to state tyranny based on Christian ethics), or the intellectual man of letters and convert from atheism to the Roman Catholic Church, Malcolm Muggeridge, let alone an awareness of the prayers written by the "atheist" W.E.B. Du Bois for his students, a poignant demonstration that faith is not so easily abandoned.

But President elect Obama has spoken of the need to meld religious ethics with the philosophical underpinnings of statecraft, when for instance he says that the Democrats have been mistaken in not understanding that the abortion issue is first and foremost a moral issue.

On June 28, 2006, Senator Obama spoke at the Call to Renewal Conference sponsored by Sojourners. President elect Obama said:

"For some time now, there has been plenty of talk among pundits and pollsters that the political divide in this country has fallen sharply along religious lines... Conservative leaders have been all too happy to exploit this gap... Democrats, for the most part, have taken the bait... At worst, there are some liberals who dismiss religion in the public square as inherently irrational or intolerant, insisting on a caricature of religious Americans that paints them as fanatical, or thinking that the very word 'Christian' describes one's political opponents, not people of faith...

"I think it's time that we join a serious debate about how to reconcile faith with our modern, pluralistic democracy.

"And if we're going to do that then we first need to understand that Americans are a religious people... This religious tendency is not simply the result of successful marketing by skilled preachers... I speak with some experience on this matter.

"You need to come to church in the first place precisely because you are first of this world, not apart from it. You need to embrace Christ precisely because you have sins to wash away -- because you are human and need an ally in this difficult journey.

"It was because of these newfound understandings that I was finally able to walk down the aisle of Trinity United Church of Christ on 95th Street in the Southside of Chicago one day and affirm my Christian faith. It came about as a choice, and not an epiphany. I didn't fall out in church. The questions I had didn't magically disappear. But kneeling beneath that cross on the South Side, I felt that I heard God's spirit beckoning me. I submitted myself to His will, and dedicated myself to discovering His truth.

"That's a path that has been shared by millions upon millions of Americans -- evangelicals, Catholics, Protestants, Jews and Muslims alike; some since birth, others at certain turning points in their lives. It is not something they set apart from the rest of their beliefs and values. In fact, it is often what drives their beliefs and their values."

Pre the Religious Right take over the traditional focus of the Republican Party had been on foreign policy issues, the economy, military preparedness and a generally libertarian laissez-faire view of the world-things William F. Buckley, and Barry Goldwater would have recognized. This was replaced by the "religious ethics" of what I imagine as the Saturday Night Live Church Lady's older, stricter, uglier, dumber and terminally self-righteous big sister. This humorless desiccated hag remade the Republican image as the anti-everything party. And in doing so this hag also took down all religious people through guilt by association. And that is the context in which the evangelistic New Atheists emerged.

Okay, so a lot of religious people are nuts, or worse, intolerant. That still doesn't address the baby swirling down the Maher/New Atheist anti-religion drain along with the right wing bathwater they're flushing.

President-elect Obama brings another perspective to faith . It goes something like this:

How do cultures define themselves if not through ritual? In the "big moments" of life; birth, marriage, sickness, death "who" -- in the inimitable words of Ghost Busters -- "you gonna call?" As President elect Obama has said, and I paraphrase: Strip the human race of our spiritual language and what do we tell each other about hope?

As President elect Obama has pointed out, a world of all math but no poetry is not fit for human habitation. If everything feels flat and dull, stripped of mystery and meaning who will bother to do the science? Why bother, if all we're doing is serving those selfish genes for another round of meaningless propagation?

So does this faith always make "sense?" No. Because our perspective is from the inside, something like paint contemplating the painting of which it's a part. We're all in the same boat, all stuck on the same "canvas."

So let's admit we all share the problem that was best articulated by Darwin in his dairy: "Can the mind of man, which has, as I fully believe, been developed from a mind as low as that possessed by the lowest animal, be trusted when it draws such grand conclusions?"

As our new president recognizes, self-awareness and mortality are already such a mutually exclusive (and terrifying) contradiction that accepting a few more contradictions is par for the course! And President elect Obama has a generous enough spirit and a large enough intellect so that he can do with his spiritual life, what the Religious Right and the New Atheists have not done: understand that there is no shame in embracing paradox.

President Obama is about to make reasoned faith fashionable again. It's about time.


Frank Schaeffer is the author of CRAZY FOR GOD-How I Grew Up As One Of The Elect, Helped Found The Religious Right, And Lived To Take All (Or Almost All) Of It Back. Now in paperback.

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jayburd
05:13 PM on 11/11/2008
Mr. Schaeffer, in defense of Bill Maher, he is an admitted agnostic, not an athiest. In fact he lumps those whom you call the New Atheists in with the Religious Right in much the same way you do in this article. His problem is not so much with the religions themselves, but with religious certainty, of which he considers atheism a part. And I agree with him.

I also agree with the overall theme of your article, that with faith should also come reason. Which is why I am an avid reader of your commentary as well as your late father's. I keep a copy of "The God Who Is There" on my bedside bookshelf.
11:42 AM on 11/07/2008
From what's written here, Mr. Shaeffer doesn't have much understanding of atheism/atheists, and what he thinks about the topic is drawn as an analog to his own experiences with fundamentalists. To make it simple for him and others like him to understand; unlike fundamentalist Christians, there is no unified movement of atheists to destroy religion. Atheists do not care if you believe in a god, we care that you force your "word of god" beliefs on everyone else out of your apocalyptic terror. Obama has spoke on religion and government, and he understands that in a pluralistic society the rule of reason is above that of an individual faith. That is as much as any atheist would hope for.
11:46 PM on 11/07/2008
eloquently expressed without question, Kudos.
02:53 AM on 11/08/2008
"To make it simple for him and others like him to understand...."

Neo-atheist humility on display! LOL.

Yes, please keep it simple for us. Thanks so much.
08:59 PM on 11/06/2008
"They are so literature challenged that they cannot understand metaphor or allegory, not to mention more subtle literary issues."

Actually we understand it just fine. We understand it well enough to recognize fairy tales from reality.

Alphonse - was jesus a god or not? Please provide a defense of your positive (or negative) assertion. When you can explain why religious books are somehow more reality-based than Lord of the Rings, give us a call.
12:14 AM on 11/07/2008
Well, friend, whether or not jesus was a god depends on the person--does the person (you, me, the guy next door, his cat) think so. If so, it is true to him. Did life begin at Devil's Lake in the Dakotas? Apparently many Native Americans thought so in the past and still honor the place. You seem to have no appreciation of the varieties of human expression, experience, culture.... And why not? Are you so locked into our modern western perspectives that you think huge numbers of people--Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists--are deluded fools?

Lord of the Rings, written by the Roman Catholic, has been read by many as a Christian allegory. But as far as I know, no one thinks to excavate a site for The Shire--as scholars have been doing for years in Israel. The Old Testament is historical to some degree, as are things in the New Testament also. I take it you deny the historicity of anything in the Jewish/Christian Bible? But as to whether Jesus was the son of God or rose from the dead--those are not of course matters of history but myths. Some people believe, some don't. So what.

Just curious--give me your literary opinion--is On the Road a fairy tale or reality?
09:40 AM on 11/07/2008
Now, for "On the Road", I assume you refer to Kerouac here. It can be both. Since many of Jack's works are semi-biographies that draw on real people that inhabited his own travels through life, there are likely portions that are true there. It's a wonderful book that encompasses an interesting point in modern culture. That said, I am not going to decide public policy based on whether I think if Sal actually visited Mexico. My reading of the book doesn't cause me to push for non-science in science class. It doesn't spend money and time lobbying for more money and time to build another Mega Kerouac-Church.

In closing, take your fallacies, go read some more, and I hope that among your pretty stories you include some non-fiction to fix your think-organ.
09:41 AM on 11/07/2008
"But as to whether Jesus was the son of God or rose from the dead--those are not of course matters of history but myths. "
We are in agreement there. When younger, I loved the greek and roman myths. I read them voraciously. Oddly, and perhaps presciently for my later life, I found the myths of Perseus and Prometheus most compelling. I never, ever thought they were 'true', but understood even at 6-9 why the STORIES were important. But they remained stories, which leads us into our next point,

"Some people believe, some don't. So what."
For non-conversion religions, we can safely say "so what". However, One need look no distance at all to see the horror of irrational belief turned into action. If you really are blind to that, there is no helping your poor foresight. From the crusades to today's honor-killings, from the torching of Alexandria to Palin's attempt to outlaw books in Wasilla, the insanity of ACTUALLY ACCEPTING AS REALITY a story about a guy on a cross who returned to life is at once saddening and frightening. If you prefer another godhead, substitute one until you find one you don't like. It shouldn't take long. "So What"? Is that the best answer you can give to Aisha Duhulow, recently stoned to death after a RAPE in Somalia for a non-existent crime based on a childish and naive view of "belief"?
08:26 PM on 11/06/2008
Part I
This entire piece is filled with non sequiturs, and contradictions, which seems to be your writing style.

Obama is far more palatable than the fundamentalist Christian Authoritarians we see coming out of the Religious (oops!) Republican Party. This is a movement towards a more secularist attitude.

What so many fail to realize is that a secularist society is precisely what this country’s founding forefathers wanted. It was the opportunity for a great and ongoing experiment. Many of these forefathers were Deists, Agnostics, or Atheists. They cherry picked the best from the Age of Enlightenment to be used as the framework of our country. The Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights are examples of the principles of the Enlightenment. This Age came about as revolt, if you will, against the religious dogmatism that permeated Europe. Instead of applying mysticism and revelation as a road to knowledge and wisdom, use rationalism and reason as your guide.
07:40 PM on 11/06/2008
Yo, Frank Schaefer--your piece is brilliant. One can only hope that Obama can get the attention of the national press on this issue, as they, like the neoatheists on this board, lump all Christians together on the Religious Right. I also applaud your point that the neoatheists are lacking in literary imagination. They are so literature challenged that they cannot understand metaphor or allegory, not to mention more subtle literary issues. To be sure, they have the courage of their convictions, like an engineering senior who once took a fiction course with me. Everyone had to read and report on a mass market novel of the day, and he drew a Harlequin novel. For him, it was the only work of fiction that made any sense. At the end of the class, when students vote on the blackboard for their favorite novel (On the Road, Sense & Sensibility, Madame Bovary for examples), he chose the Harlequin and posted it right in front of everyone. When he left the room, one student remarked, Wow, that took guts. Exactly. But....

In other words, why don't poets say what they mean in clear language? These folks cannot understand the dimensions of a religious culture, either. The literary and art history of a people reflect their religion and represent it. One can marvel at the Navaho stories of the creation without sharing their views, which are a bit harder to understand rationally than those of Judeo-Christianity.

Thanks!
12:37 AM on 11/08/2008
Platitudes by non sequitur, no thanks.
10:41 AM on 11/06/2008
It's time that religion became something that informed people's politics, and not defined it. The atheist movement has produced such loud and angry voices for the same reason that all movements of marginalized people produce some angry leaders. We have been treated as second-class citizens by our culture and our government.

The return of "reasoned faith" should not be trumpeted as proof that all atheists have warped views of the world and of politics. Quoting from the same speech by president Obama:

"Moreover, given the increasing diversity of America's population, the dangers of sectarianism have never been greater. Whatever we once were, we are no longer just a Christian nation; we are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers. "

While it may be tempting to dismiss nonbelief along with the polarizing rhetoric of the "New Atheists," this would be wrong. As wrong as dismissing all religious people along with the crackpots and violent extremists.

What we need is to not try to use Obama's reasoned faith to demonize the "New Atheists," but to recognize that what we need is reasoned *discussion* between citizens of all faiths, along with respect, and an end to religious divisiveness and bigotry, so that this nation can be governed in the best interests of all of us.
11:22 AM on 11/06/2008
Well said, timplausible.
09:59 AM on 11/06/2008
Mr. Schaeffer said: "President Obama is about to make reasoned faith fashionable again."
At the expense of sounding like a spoil sport, "reasoned faith" sounds like and oxymoron to me.
02:00 PM on 11/06/2008
You don't sound like a spoil sport--you sound like a new atheist.

Like Mr. Schaeffer, I'm tired of hearing the popular dialogue on religion dominated by your group and the Dobson crowd. Nothing is accomplished when a subject endlessly bounces between two extremes.
08:43 AM on 11/07/2008
My group, lol? I don't think I would put it that way. Zanti, you give me way too much credit. Alas, there is nothing "new" about my world view as it was formed in the turbulent 1960s and has not changed much over the years.
07:30 AM on 11/06/2008
Fabulous essay--thank you. If I were new to this site's comment threads, I might be astonished at the inability of so many to grasp the extremely simple points you've made. But I'm not, and so I'm not.

One small complaint: "nuance" refers to subtle shades or differences, whereas the matter at hand is one of depth vs. lack of depth--a simple, all-or-nothing point of view vs. Obama's much more complete view. The views of the all-or-nothing folks don't lack nuance as much as they lack substance.

In fact, the views of literal-minded people tend to be very nuanced, since they're all detail and no point.
01:54 PM on 11/06/2008
The main point simple for sure, to cast the first stone,Is that what Jesus would do?
05:33 AM on 11/06/2008
Mr Schaeffer.

Obama's church was ripped into by the press. Obama won anyway, despite the best efforts of many to make his church a factor against him. He was accused of being a Muslim, and his middle name was emphasised to make that connection, yet he won anyway.

For a new atheist, who one day wants people to be able to run for president whatever their religious affiliation, I count that as a win.

I wonder, Mr Schaefer, at how you can claim that atheists lack imagination or poetry, in a bid to dehumanise me. I wouldn't have accused Douglas Adams of lacking an imagination. Nor would I accuse George Elliot of being flat, and unimaginative. George Orwell, is another example of someone you seem to think had no imagination. Stale, flat and grey figures all weren't they?

It is telling, that even in a moment of triumph, you feel the need, this dire need to insult those you disagree with. It is telling that as a Christian, your response to this victory, for all Americans, was to try and paint it as a defeat for the very atheists who joined you in voting for that president.

It is a sad reflection, that your religion has instead of making you a better person, made you more concerned with judging others, than celebrating anything. For you to feel that you have won, you need to make others feel that they have lost.
04:02 AM on 11/06/2008
Forgive my ignorance, but I find myself somewhat confused by this essay and especially its timing. In less than 12 hours after our President elect Obama spoke to healing divides and being President of all of our People, the author, who has made the claim throughout this long election season to have set aside fundamentalist ways, goes back to his root bias, thus mixing apples and oranges and poking a stick in the eye of hope.

To say I am disheartened at this time by the essay is an understatement. While our President elect Obama spoke to inclusiveness and agape ( a communion, a fellowship, a gathering together of our Humanity in love for one another) I find myself at a loss in understanding how the essay/post moves us towards that goal.

Our fragile humanity indeed.
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11:30 PM on 11/05/2008
I really think Frank should watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odsDYodanxQ

Tell me Obama is not a man of reason and rational thinking.
08:54 AM on 11/06/2008
Um... who said he wasn't?
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whit4brains
06:09 PM on 11/06/2008
Did you even read the article?
08:23 PM on 11/05/2008
America will be truly civilized when we elect a president who is agnostic - about religion and everything else.
07:51 PM on 11/05/2008
As an atheist, I'm not anti-god - that would be being against a fictional character. I'm anti-people trying to erase history & recreate our past into "we were founded as a christian nation." I'm anti- giving social services funds to churches. There's no evidence churches are competent to provide social services, and there is evidence that churches proselytize even when they're not supposed to.

Instead of being pro-charity, I'm pro higher taxes and providing a minimum standard of living to all citizens. Instead of using the needs of the body for a place to sleep, food & health care [most disease is from infection, accidents, birth defects - not behavior]. Most people, even when financially comfortable find the motivation to be productive with their days/lives and we don't need to be forced [while society ignores the children of wealth who aren't productive] . When the country really needs our best effort - in war - we provide clothes, shelter , meals & health care. If worrying about paying for that made people more productive, we'd surely make soldiers worry about them. Providing for citizens would also remove sympathy for criminals who currently claim needs motivate their crimes.

The idea of suffering or deprivation or fear of deprivation [for oneself or family] being a teaching tool, or an appropriate punishment for not being productive has its roots in religious doctrines. I'm anti- that, too.
06:56 PM on 11/05/2008
(...continued) The last defence is the most pathetic, this 'we need faith for meaning' defence. Atheists lives have plenty of meaning and it seems pretty stupid that YOU can't find meaning without believing in myths contradicted by objective science. I like the Cathedrals as cultural artifacts (contrary to what many liars would say about how we want to burn them down) I like ancient greek religion too as a cultural heritage, but I don't actually have to worship Zeus to appreciate it. (continues...)
06:54 PM on 11/05/2008
Who will do the science, the math, and the poetry? Why the people who have always done it best.
The atheists.