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My Religion Is Better Than Yours

Posted: 01/11/2012 10:23 am

I don't know about you, but I'm definitely tired of encountering this attitude. Most people who make such statements don't have deep knowledge or set of experiences within their own tradition, what to speak of other people's traditions. I am confident that if we made even a little bit of an endeavor to understand another's faith, it could make all the difference in the world.

The first time I watched "Jesus of Nazareth" with a group of fellow Hindu monks, we all marveled at the life of Jesus and the seriousness of his teachings, and immediately we could find similar teachings from within the Hindu tradition. The video inspired me to read the Gospels, which surprised me even more. The mood of a practitioner described by Jesus is identical to descriptions in the Gita and the Bhagavat Purana.

"You have heard the law that says, 'Love your neighbor' and hate your enemy. But I say, love your enemies! Pray for those who persecute you! In that way, you will be acting as true children of your Father in heaven. For he gives his sunlight to both the evil and the good, and he sends rain on the just and the unjust alike" (Matthew 5:43-45)

Jesus explained the need to be forgiving, not wanting to be recognized or praised for one's acts of devotion, and in his dealings with the near stoning of Mary Magdalene, he taught us to be careful in judging others. The Dalai Lama teaches us that the purpose of religion from the Buddhist perspective "is to facilitate love, compassion, tolerance, humility, and forgiveness." In the 13th chapter of the Bhagavad Gita, Krishna gives items of knowledge that can help liberate the soul: "Humility; pridelessness; nonviolence; tolerance; simplicity... all these I declare to be knowledge..."

A great Hindu teacher, Shri Chaitanya, states as well: "One should not desire to accumulate wealth, fame, prestige, or followers. One's only aspiration should be to serve God without any motivations."

The Bhagavat Purana is full of stories of individuals who were ready to forgive the perpetrator for even the most grievous of offenses. This was done with the understanding that if we learn to forgive others, then God will also forgive us and that the law of karma balances things out in due course of time.

Finding such similarities between these traditions was quite exciting, as I realized that the message of God is similar for many of these seemingly very different traditions. In order to understand this, we first of all need to acknowledge that God must have given messages of liberation and salvation to people throughout the world. God wasn't partial when He distributed spiritual knowledge to the people of the world. We need to give up our sectarian views and abandon the thought that only the people of my tradition have been blessed and that all others have been condemned.

I don't think there is anything that turns people away from religion and spirituality more than this kind of an attitude. Even if someone may be curious about spiritual truths and practices, the fanatic and sectarian mood of some practitioners can be a real deterrent. I can't remember how many times I've been confronted on the streets and in the subways of New York where someone tells me "Jesus is the only way!" or that "Jesus loves you."

I suppose they think such an exclamation is going to bring about some epiphany and make me part ways with the Hindu tradition that I have been practicing since the age of seven. Since I'm a monk and wear orange robes and have a shaved head, I guess I'm a bit of a target for such comments. To those who tell me "Jesus loves you," I simply thank them and keep on moving.

It's safe to say as well that all traditions share some similar tenets, but I don't think we can say that all religions are the same. Just because my theology, philosophy, and practice is prescribing a certain lifestyle for me doesn't mean that other systems of faith can't prescribe something different for those who choose to adhere to other teachings. I don't necessarily have to agree with the teachings in these other traditions, but I can at least be respectful to them.

Too often, because we're not grounded in our own tradition, we feel insecure and the only way to overcome that insecurity is to fanatically push our religious teachings on to others. Obviously, this only leads to conflict and a bad taste in people's mouths.

I'm reminded of a lecture I heard in which a monk of the Hindu tradition explained that just as a dog can always recognize its owner, whether the owner is dressed in shorts, a suit, or nothing at all, so a mature spiritualist is able to recognize his or her God in the dress of another tradition. I know from personal experience that this is easier said than done, but if we don't at least attempt to move in this direction, then we'll continue to fight over who's right and who's wrong.

 

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09:54 PM on 01/29/2012
Dear Gadhadar, you wrote: “God wasn't partial when He distributed spiritual knowledge to the people of the world.“ The Bible says otherwise: "He has revealed his word to Jacob, his laws and decrees to Israel. He has done this for no other nation” -Ps 147:20. Still, as you have noticed, people of all religions, trough the dictate of their conscience, are at least aware of the golden rule. Unfortunately, you have missed what is the very essence of the Gospel: all the good that we do to others is never enough to make-up for our sins. Multiple reincarnations would not fix things either. We cannot earn heaven or achieve liberation, perfection, self-realization, salvation by doing good or practicing bhakti-yoga. If we go back home, back to Godhead, it is only because God became man and died on the cross for our sins.
07:55 PM on 02/02/2012
Dear Judd. You are worshiping a finite being (he is not in hell). A being incapable of love (he judges people into the hell he created). An immoral being (that gave morality to the greatest genocides the world has ever known). A being that hates his own presumed creation.

But you are saved, There is Tat Sat, SatCitAnanda. TatSat loves you infinitely. TatSat is with you unconditionally. TatSat will teach you dharma if you only open yourself to IT. While you are worshiping hatred, TatSat will redeem you every moment.

hariaum
10:18 PM on 02/02/2012
Navin, if you don't change your attitude, one day all your questions about hell will be answered...
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12:20 PM on 03/02/2012
According to legend, the Jews were the tenth nation to be offered the Torah. They were the only ones to take it.
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GDWhiteman
Christian mystic iconoclast
10:18 PM on 01/20/2012
It seems to me that religions have a great urge to be right and and a need for others to be wrong. That's why I follow Christ without bothering with religions.
09:34 PM on 01/27/2012
if you look at the dictionary definition of religion, by following Christ you accept a religion.
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GDWhiteman
Christian mystic iconoclast
07:10 AM on 01/28/2012
It seems that I've had this discussion with others. If you're typical, your misunderstanding arises from not understanding what I mean when I say that I'm a follower of Christ. Feel free to offer the dictionary definition that leads you to assert that my following of Christ constitutes acceptance of a religion, and I'll either agree with you or do my best to explain how it doesn't fit. I have no reason to be anything other than honest with you.
10:00 PM on 01/18/2012
"we'll continue to fight over who's right and who's wrong"I? -it is an act of charity to cry out against the wolf when he is among the sheep" -St. Francis de Sales
03:55 PM on 01/19/2012
Ofcourse, the fundamentalists think that they are a martyrs...
11:28 PM on 01/19/2012
the quote meant that it is an act of charity to expose someone who is teaching errors about God and his will for us. To have a desire to debate what is right or wrong shows a love for the truth.
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GDWhiteman
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10:03 PM on 01/20/2012
Which is why I strive to expose religious fundamentalism for teaching errors about God and his will for us. I live to debate because I so love truth.
11:50 PM on 01/20/2012
I am very proud of you. There is nothing worst than the post-modern attitude that we should not debate who is right or wrong.
06:16 PM on 01/16/2012
For a god to give us intellect and then tell us not to use it simply a cruel joke by a nasty being. Intellect must be used to judge which way is best for me. In careful use of intellect, that thought becomes meaningless in the judgement, which is best for you. But some religions certainly believe that religions should not be judged, that they are above our god given right to use our intellect. Actually, to some extent all religions have this thread. But a religion that is based on only one way, only one book, only one prophet, only one last prophet.... does demand that you stop using your god given intellect. That is a sin against the creation of god. That is ego of the religious leaders.

hariaum
11:57 PM on 01/18/2012
2,000 years ago, a simple carpenter from nowhere proclaimed: “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” Subsequently, he was crucified for the blasphemy of claiming to be God. At that point, our intellect should have been satisfied that this egotistic religious leader got what he deserved. The only problem is that three days later he rose from the dead.
01:37 AM on 01/19/2012
He might have existed, but the bible does not represent him well. Others have died and risen up that also the bible fails to represent well. Unless you have intellectual knowledge of the validity of the bible, without evidence that is called a superstition.

If you believe in a finite god, then you can exist outside of god and you are not made of god stuff. You can believe in superstition. Ok by me.

If you believe in a God that is the totality of Being, then you are a part of that god stuff and you can say "I am the way and the truth," and then add anything your ego wants to add. The first clause is correct, the second is egoism - for a person, a finite entity to speak for god and say no one else can speak for god is to pretend the ego (of the carpenter in this case) commands god's will. God's will is greater than that jobless drifter.

God opens infinite paths to God. If you don't want to believe in such a loving god, ok. But my intellect leads me to love the God that is Love, let alone loving only the part of humanity that bows to name worship.

Call your god jesus, father, mother, creator, destroyer, uga buga. I don't care. Love.

hariaum
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12:18 PM on 03/02/2012
No, he was crucified for trying to start a riot in the Jewish temple. The so-called "cleansing of the monechangers."
DoesItMatter
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06:58 AM on 01/14/2012
If one considers religious thoughts as ideas, then clearly some ideas are better than others.
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Christian mystic iconoclast
10:04 PM on 01/20/2012
According to whom?
10:27 AM on 01/21/2012
According to "DoesItMatter."
04:37 PM on 01/13/2012
The question which religion offers a way to salvation is important and at the same time is the fundamental problem with all the religions today. Contrary to the moral high road the author is claiming to take, every religion thinks theirs is the only way to salvation. While Christians thinks if you don’t believe in Jesus you will go to hell, Hindu’s think if you don’t meditate on Brahma and realize you are an aspect of him, you will go to hell; well the Hindu version of hell; that is you will be born again and again until you realize this. This is true of all the other religions; that their religion is the only true way.
This is actually an important aspect because you don’t want to be following the wrong one. As one commentator said if you are aiming for the roof, you don’t want to hit the basement.
This is why we have all the conflicts from time immemorial to today, because one religious group thinks all the others are stupid.
Atheists go one step further and think all of them are stupid for believing in any religion at all.
That is why I am an atheist. If you want to be truly moral you have to denounce all religions. How can you be part of a club that is so smug in thinking everyone else is going to hell?
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04:54 PM on 01/13/2012
Its good that you have rejected dualistic metaphysics... "God". So far, so good.

Now, go ahead and refute monism... for that is what "Brahman" points to. Give it a go, Mr. Atheist. Atheism is a statement of negation. But what is it that you assert, if not monism?
05:57 PM on 01/13/2012
If you are an atheist, then you don't believe in God (in any form) and you also deny the existence of soul (atman) in any form. Okay. Let's take your argument to the extreme. So you are the body. The material body, nothing more, right? Well, which body are you? The one that was born? The infant? The toddler? The child? The teenager? I don't know how old you are, depending on that there are probably a few more phases. So which body are you? Because, not only has the shape and form changed from your birth till now, so has every particle in your body. Many times over. What you ate a while ago has become part of your body. What you eat today will be part of your body. There is not a single particle in your body that is "yours", it came from somewhere else and will go somewhere else. What you call "I" today was spread all over as sunlight, water, minerals etc not long ago. You are an atheist. Great! But first please explain what or who are you?
07:19 PM on 01/14/2012
Me, I am nothing. An insignificant life form no better than any other life form. I happen to be here for no purpose and will disintegrate into nothingness when I die. Just like everything else in this universe including the stars and planet. The whole process was set in motion with big bang and will come to nought with a big compression. It does not prove anything. You can call the big bang the hand of god, but that god is not the same god we are talking about. That God doesn't care one bit about you or me or how we lead our life - no sin, no life after death, no rebirth, no hell or heaven.
12:16 AM on 01/19/2012
I am a theist, but your argument concerning the body is flawed. The body is very much part of who we are, although it is continuously changing. We have the same DNA when we die as when we were born. Think of a waterfall: the drops of water are continuously moving, changing, passing trough, but the waterfall remains the same. Our body is not a foreign element. We are incarnated spirits.
04:11 PM on 01/13/2012
Thank you Mr. Dasa for posting this article. I think that what we need is not "tolerance" -- which implies the my-faith-is better-than-yours,-but-I-am-tolerating-you attitude -- but rather "acceptance." Acceptance of each other, as people, and as the children of Immortal Bliss.
01:07 PM on 01/13/2012
One tiny little difference between Krishna and Jesus Christ:
Krishna is of the gods in Hindu mythology.
Jesus is the turning point of history.
DoesItMatter
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04:01 PM on 01/13/2012
Both are mythological individuals.
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12:17 PM on 03/02/2012
No. Jesus was historical. he wasn't a god though.
04:08 PM on 01/13/2012
There is little evidence that "Jesus is the turning point of history."

And I think that your comment illustrates the very problem that Mr. Dasa was addressing.
I apologize if I seem rude.
11:26 PM on 01/13/2012
We are now in 2012. Hum...where does that number comes from?
12:54 PM on 01/13/2012
Evangelism conversion activities are eviI.

That's the bottom line.
10:49 AM on 01/22/2012
Jesus Christ told us:
“Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you.”
“Preach the word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage—with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.”
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11:43 AM on 01/13/2012
Thank you. Well said.
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Pradip Gangopadhyay
10:44 AM on 01/13/2012
The different religions/dharmas can not be all equal because there are real differences in their teachings. They are all, however, valid traditions. How can all the different traditions be valid even though they are not equal? The answer is that God takes into account the errors in all these traditions.

Sri Ramakrishna (1836-1886) said on this issue:

"God can be realized through all paths. All religions are true. The important thing is to reach the roof. You can reach it by stone stairs or by wooden stairs or by bamboo steps or by a rope. You can also climb up by a bamboo pole.
You may say that there are many errors and superstitions in another religion. I should reply: Suppose there are. Every religion has errors. Every one thinks that his watch alone gives the correct time. It is enough to have yearning for God. It is enough to love Him and feel attracted to Him. Don't you know that God is the Inner Guide? He sees the longing of our heart and the yearning of our soul. Suppose a man has several sons. The older boys address him distinctly as 'Baba' or 'Papa', but the babies can at best call him 'Ba' or 'Pa'. Now will the father be angry with those who address him in this indistinct way? The father knows that they too are calling him, only they cannot pronounce his name well. All children are same to the father."
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12:55 AM on 01/13/2012
It is important to remember that while all religions cannot be true, they can all be false. The author's religion, Hinduism, has had about 4000 years to produce some sort of evidence that its gods exist. So far it has failed utterly.

That makes it just like every other theistic religion.
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Pradip Gangopadhyay
10:52 AM on 01/13/2012
Even non-theistic dharmas like Buddhism has not been able to furnish any proof for their claims.

You seem to think that Hindu Deities are Persons. While some Hindu traditions do think of Hindu Deities as Persons there are others who don't think of them as Persons.

Sri Ramakrishna says the following about the Hindu Deities:

"Do you know what I mean? Think of Brahman, Existence-Knowledge-Bliss
Absolute, as a shoreless ocean. Through the cooling influence as it were, of the bhakta's love, the water has frozen at places into blocks of ice. In other words, God now and then assumes various forms for His lovers and reveals Himself to them as a Person. But with the rising of the sun of knowledge, the blocks of ice melt. Then one doesn't feel any more that God is a Person, nor does one see God's forms. What He is can not be described. Who will describe Him? He who would do so disappears. He cannot find his 'I' anymore."
04:16 PM on 01/13/2012
The "gods" of Hindusim are the more of a product of media stereotypes and ignorance, than actual Hindu philosophy. According to Hinduism, Vedanta to be more precise, only Brahman (Consciousness) exists, and the world is a superimposition on Brahman. Brahman is our very Self. We are Brahman, hence, we are all potentially divine.

The "gods" of Hinduism are simply facets of Brahman. They are the attempt of ego-controlled humans to personalize Brahman, in order to love Him and adore Him. The "gods" are not individuals distinct from Brahman.
(Shri Ramakrishna's quote posted by Mr. Gangopadhyay should give a good illustration how Brahman is the "gods.")
12:14 AM on 01/13/2012
What Gadadhara is actually saying is this: my religious belief that “we should not think that a religious belief is better than another” is better than the religious belief of those who think that “their religious beliefs are better than the others”. He wrote his article to persuade us that we are wrong “to fight over who's right and who's wrong”.
There is only 3 ways to live your life, three groups of people:
The first one could care less about the big questions.
The second one cares and looks for answers. They stop looking when they find answers that they feel comfortable with. Somebody believes something different? Fine, as long as it works for them.
The third group is looking for answers but they ask: is there any evidence that this is true? Is it supported by sound reasoning? Is there some reason to believe that it is not true? Because they love the truth, they love to debate what the truth is.
Gadadhara Pandit Dasa does not want to fight over who's right and who's wrong. Why? Because if he is wrong, he does not want to know about it. My guess is that before he watched Jesus of Nazareth, he believed that bengali vaisnavism was better than Christianity. After, he got an intuition that Christianity was better than the other. In order not to disturb his life, he told himself: better that I just don’t think that a religion is better than another.
01:25 AM on 01/13/2012
Well that may be a legitimate guess. From how he describes things however, I think you can take his words at face value that he is lamanting on the seeming need of people to push others to their belief system. And frankly speaking, I would have to agree in many aspects.

While doing so undoubtably with the best intentions in mind, some people can be so pushy in their evangelism that they completely irritate and turn people off. And then they annoy them more by saying that the targets are just being defensive because they know that something's missing in their lives. Not so. They are just annoyed by the hardline approach. Even worse is if the target is a family member.

All religions essentially aim to teach good and bad, right and wrong. That should actually be its unifying thing among people. And its fine to share your religious beliefs with others. They can be absolutely fascinating and even encouraging to others. Religious debates can even be fun sometimes. But there's a point when all this becomes offensive and insulting. I like to believe that freedom of religion means that anyone religion has the right to believe that I am going to hell - as long as they don't attempt to send me there before my time.
10:36 AM on 01/22/2012
Wayne, think also about how often you are subjected to publicity meant to entice you to buy some commercial goods or service. What do you want to do? Go live on a deserted island someplace? Nobody as a right to impose their religion on you but freedom of speech gives them the right to propose it. As a Christian, may I suggest to you that you investigate the claims of the gospel? If you become a Christian, at least the Christians will not bother you anymore. And, as a side benefit, you won’t have to spend eternity in hell.
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11:35 PM on 01/12/2012
"You are your own, all else is farse"

this is a statement by a person that states they are an investigative journalist. this gives a reader the depth of those that call themselves investigative journalists.

I am amazed at the human mind how it can convince itself that it knows the truth in a universe that is still a mystery as to how it started and a mystery as to the origin of life on earth.

again and again I quote thoreau. there is more religion in men's science than science in their religion. in one sentence he sums up science that is more about a system of beliefs than inquiry.
11:06 PM on 01/12/2012
The Family of "Our Father and GOD" or a system of religion?

"Choose wisely"!

History has proven, and yet proves, that multiplied millions have been killed and enslaved in the name of the god[s] of this, or that, religion!

So it is that the fruit of death is bore of religion's way,
Because life is but a pawn in the wicked game they play!

And that is but one of a multitude of reasons why "The Way of Truth is evil spoken of",and especially so because of those systems of religion that declare that they are biblically based!

Pagan catholicism, her multitude of harlot christian('jesus') daughters, all muslim sects, and the many judaic systems of this day,all propagate lies,delusion,deception,confusion and every evil work!

Was not biblical religion established for a "disobedient and gainsaying(greedy, covetous) people" who were "stiff-necked and uncircumcised of heart and ears"? Those who would rather "a man speak to them than YHVH",and who wanted "a man to rule over them rather than The One and Only True GOD, Father(Creator) of ALL"?

GOD's children realize evermore that "Our Father", HE KNOWS BEST!

Father Help! and HE does.......

So why would HIS children, The Faithful, create a system of religion?

For The Faithful brothers and sisters have their portion in The Family of "Our Father and GOD","of WHOM the whole Family in Heaven and ON EARTH is named"! (Eph3:15)

continued @ http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2011/07/family-of-faith-or-system-of-religion.html