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Gavin Newsom

Posted: November 3, 2008 03:15 PM

It's Up To Us Now, Protect Marriage Equality


We have less than 24 hours before voters across California head to the polls to cast their ballots for the most important election in generations. That means we have less than 24 hours to protect the freedom to marry by persuading every single person we know to vote NO on Prop. 8.

Every vote matters in the fight against Prop. 8. All the polls in the past week have shown a statistical tie on Prop. 8 - and we're counting on the millions of Californians who believe in equal rights to be the tiebreaker. The right-wing extremists behind Prop. 8 are filling our airwaves and mailboxes with lies and intolerance.

It's up to each of us to fight back with our own words and from our hearts. Now is the time for you to take action - here's what you can do:

1. GET THE MESSAGE OUT Call, email and text your friends and family. Explain to them, in your own words, why you're against Prop. 8 and ask them to vote NO.

2. VOTE The only way we're going to defeat Prop. 8 is at the ballot box, and every vote will make a difference.

We have less than 24 hours to stop discrimination from being written into our constitution.

It's up to us now.

Tomorrow, please join me, President Clinton, Barack Obama, Dianne Feinstein, Arnold Schwarzenegger and countless other leaders, organizations and voters just like you in doing everything we can to defeat Prop. 8.

To learn more, please visit www.NoOnProp8.com

Follow Gavin Newsom on Twitter: www.twitter.com/GavinNewsom

We have less than 24 hours before voters across California head to the polls to cast their ballots for the most important election in generations. That means we have less than 24 hours to protect the ...
We have less than 24 hours before voters across California head to the polls to cast their ballots for the most important election in generations. That means we have less than 24 hours to protect the ...
 
 
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09:52 AM on 11/05/2008
Gavin Newsom wants us to vote NO on Prop 8.
For the uninitiated, Newsom is the San Francisco playboy Mayor who was elected with Willie Brown's political machine and Gordon Getty's money.

He was so unpopular with SF progressives that he nearly lost the election to Green Party candidate, Matt Gonzales, even though he outspent Gonzales 10 to 1. Newsom was so unpopular with the GBLT community that he was booed at the Annual Gay Pride parade.

Being a shrewd Pol, Mr. Newsom, decided to woo SFs large and wealthy gay block by co-opting gay marriage. The GBLT community abandoned progressive instincts in favor their own special interests. Newsom used the issue to garner publicity while simultaneously establishing a political base.

No one has more at stake in seeing that Proposition 8 fails than Newsom. His political career depends on it's outcome. The grandstanding, so clearly encapsulated in the Yes on 8 "LIKE IT OR NOT" ads reveals of Mr. Newsom's true motives in supporting marriage rights.

In 2004, when Newsom started issuing same sex licenses in SF, there was a documentary crew recording every move. Coincidentally, the director of this documentary is his brother-in-law. Not surprisingly, the poster for this documentary features not a gay couple, but rather a large picture of Mr. Newsom and the American flag.

So, when Mr. Newsom pleads us to vote NO on Prop 8, be aware that he's really pleading for us to keep his political career alive.
09:43 AM on 11/06/2008
I agree. We need a statesman like Obama as our spokesman, not a hack politician who is exploiting the issue to get publicity.
01:03 PM on 11/04/2008
Mayor Newsom,
Considering your position on Prop 8, I was surprised to find out that you vehemently oppose Prop K on the San Francisco ballot. Prop K would decriminalize prostitution in the City.
Please enlighten us sir. Is it legalized prostitution, a la Amsterdam and Nevada, that you abhor, or is it merely the wording in Prop K that you find problematic?
Could it be sir, that you are intolerant?
10:54 AM on 11/04/2008
if you support gay marriage don't you also have to support bisexual marriage which by definition polygamy?
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mercury613
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10:57 AM on 11/04/2008
Do you even know anyone who is gay or bisexual?
12:31 PM on 11/04/2008
If you support marriage based on the bible, um.. by definition isn't a lot of that polygamy? Jacob had multiple wives, and he created the 12 tribes of Israel.

In fact biblical marriages, were mostly based on trading a daughter to a man to give his land and earthly belongings to.

Maybe we should go back to that. They still pick for you in other countries. The parents choose on what they can get out of it for you. That is totally better than gays getting married and living their own personal lives. Bartering your kids.
09:48 AM on 11/04/2008
Until they pass laws that outlaw any form of homosexual coupling and closely resemble anti-miscegenation laws (which precluded interracial marriage), the comparison between the two will never work. Gay marriage not being recognized as valid, and interracial marriage being a criminal offense, are not the same thing. I don't care what Newsom or any of the rest of you say...it's not.

You know what it is? Offensive.
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10:58 AM on 11/04/2008
Yes, it is.
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mercury613
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11:22 AM on 11/04/2008
Um, you're joking, right?

Laws that outlaw "any form of homosexual coupling", as you put it, were on the books in 15 states as recently as 2003. Even in California, anti-sodomy laws were in effect until 1976. So by your own argument, comparisons between same-sex marriage and interracial marriage do, in fact, work.
06:21 AM on 11/04/2008
The opponents of gay marriage often claim that marriage is "sacred." Really? The word sacred means an inviolable, unbreakable contract. We have accepted the fact that half of all marriages end in divorce. If divorce is acceptable then gay marriage is as well. You can't have a sacred divorce. It always amuses me when someone like McCain(divorced) or Rush Limbaugh(divorced three times) oppose gay marriage. How hypocritical can you possibly get? I've also noticed that those who rail against homosexuals are usually hiding something. Does anyone remember Mark Foley and Larry Craig?
09:42 AM on 11/04/2008
If marriage ISN'T sacred, why is it so important for gay and lesbian couples to be able to legally have one? You can't diminish marriage on a contingency plan.
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10:59 AM on 11/04/2008
It's important because of the associated legal rights. Believe me, most of us could not care less about the religious implications.
12:23 PM on 11/04/2008
It is about getting equal treatment under the law. There is no excuse for the Yes on 8 people to be against something that doesn't affect their life. I am a lesbian and I am married to my wife. We have a daughter together. That means we are a family. Now, by being married there are rights that we get that we didn't before. It is absolutely amazing how so many things heterosexual married couples take for granted. Like having your name changed. When you get married, you can change your name. When you aren't, you have to pay money and stand in front of a judge and explain why you are getting your name changed. You are able to get discounts on Car Insurance, Even if a bill collector calls for you...your spouse is authorized to talk to them. Same if someone is in court, their spouse doesn't have to testify against them. These are just little things. Bigger things like taxes, social security benefits, health benefits, visitation in hospitals, etc. Things taken for granted. Things that I finally am entitled to have and share with everyone else. That is what this "Gay marriage is all about." So, yeah, your sacred-ness isn't about your church, it is about what the law protects for people together under the law.
02:19 AM on 11/04/2008
JUST SAY NO TO THEOCRACY. VOTE NO ON H8!
11:45 PM on 11/03/2008
Part 6

We urge you to make sure to vote tomorrow, on Nov 4 and vote No on Prop 8 that would change the California Constitution to take civil rights away from two consensual adults to marry.

We leave you with some words of Gavin Newsom:

(This one is an hour long talk Gavin gave at Google, long, but inspirational and well worth watching. If you lose interest in the middle of the Q&A just listen to the last few minutes to learn why this means so much to so many people)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhCZJOLAq3E
12:30 AM on 11/04/2008
yes on 2, yes on 8, No on 11,
01:23 AM on 11/04/2008
If you can't stand the thought of an animal living in a cage, why would you have us live in a cage?
03:28 PM on 11/05/2008
A right mysteriously discovered by some liberal judge, sort of like the right to privacy or the "separation of church and state" that do not exist in our founding documents.
11:45 PM on 11/03/2008
Part 5
We read a recent study that correlates people's opinions of homosexuals with the number of gay people they know. Well, living in the Bay Area for many years, we happen to know quite a few. We can tell you, they are no crazier than at least other people living in the Bay Area! :) Among many of our friends, we have witnessed Sheila and Meg's struggles to adopt their two wonderful daughters in India. Our friends Chris and Tim just got married. They also recently bought a house in San Francisco, which we think they would lose without Chris' salary. Chris is Canadian and while many of us enjoy being together with our spouses, Chris might have to go back to Canada, because the federal government would not recognize their California marriage. Unless you act and show with your vote to the whole nation that you recognize people's constitutional rights, who are different than you and tell the rest of the nation. All the polls suggest that this is a very close race and YOUR VOTE COUNTS.
12:17 AM on 11/04/2008
Well, I'm sure you all know, if Chis is forced to go back to Canada (hmm, "forced"? I live there and I don't feel forced), he and Tim's marriage will be legally recognized (throughout), and Tim can become a Canadian on that basis. If so, welcome Tim. Otherwise, I hope prop 8 FAILS!!!!

Vote, and don't give up!

Obama/Biden '08!
03:33 PM on 11/05/2008
Why has Chris not become a citizen? If he intends to stay here, he should join the team.
11:42 PM on 11/03/2008
Part 4
Prop 8 proponents are unhappy, because the previous proposition 22 that passed in the 2000 elections was overturned by "activist" judges. The fact is, it was the California Supreme Court, not a bunch of "activist" judges, that decided Proposition 22 was against the California Constitution. The high-court had a 6-1 majority in Republican appointees when it passed the decision. It was hardly activist and we find it disconcerting to dismiss a decision of the California Supreme Court to enforce state constitution when the judges were simply doing their jobs.

Proposition 8 would be an equivalent of trying to change the US Constitution, after the Supreme Court decided in 1967 that banning interracial marriages would be unconstitutional.

On another note, we would like to remind you that people that we know, who are perhaps still alive, grew up with prejudice against different races. We think, it will be also historic to look back in perhaps 20 years and study how the society thought and why.
12:29 AM on 11/04/2008
"Proposition 8 would be an equivalent of trying to change the US Constitution."
No, actually it would be equivalent to trying to change the California Constitution,... duh...
12:52 AM on 11/04/2008
Did you read past the comma...Duh?
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Pearlswan
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01:55 AM on 11/04/2008
What the argument is saying, I think, is that if Prop 8 wins, the next step will be to challenge the proposition on the grounds that the amendment to the CA State Constitution violates the U.S. Constitution. And, that is the fundamental law of the land. Like the last amendment that tried to outlaw marriage for same sex couples in CA state, this too, will be overturned at the federal level while costing Californians millions of dollars to defend it in federal court. Couldn't that money be better spent elsewhere? How many kids could we educate with that money? So, if you care about kids, the only reasonable option is to vote No on proposition 8. Let's not waste our hard-earned money financing and defending laws that deny rights to anyone.
11:41 PM on 11/03/2008
Part 3
What do we think about this?

First, emotionally, it is an extreme shocker to know that matching the race of your spouse to yours was a legal issue, until 1967, in some parts of the country. That is less than half a century ago and within most of your lifetimes. Even in California, you couldn't legally marry another race until 1949. Wow!

Second, the decision Loving v. Virginia, 1967, didn't grant a black person the right to marry, or a white person the right to marry, or a hispanic person the right to marry; it granted them the right to marry of their choosing. Too often, we hear the argument that homosexuals aren't taken away their right to marry, they just can't marry the same sex. Well, I don't think the Loving v. Virginia was about that and this argument, goes against the rationale of Loving v. Virginia. Back then a very high percentage of people (I think it was 70-80% - as stated by Gavin Newsom) of the population were against interracial marriage, but the court decided. People didn't talk about activist judges then, but they were outraged.
03:17 PM on 11/04/2008
Blacks weren't allowed to buy property in certain parts of Los Angeles until the 1950s. Hell, they weren't allowed to buy property in most of the post-war suburban developments in many areas of the country.
11:39 PM on 11/03/2008
part 2
The rest of the nation continued miscegenation (interracial marriage) laws until the Supreme Court decision of Loving v. the State of Virginia, 1967. The Court agreed, reiterating that marriage is one of the basic civil rights of man, and that the state has no business dictating which races may or may not intermarry. The decision had to do with the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution that says:

"No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

Here is an excerpt from the Loving v. Virginia decision:

"To deny this fundamental freedom on so unsupportable a basis as the racial classifications embodied in these statutes, classifications so directly subversive of the principle of equality at the heart of the Fourteenth Amendment, is surely to deprive all the State's citizens of liberty without due process of law. The Fourteenth Amendment requires that the freedom of choice to marry not be restricted by invidious racial discrimination. Under our Constitution, the freedom to marry, or not marry, a person of another race resides with the individual and cannot be infringed by the State."
11:37 PM on 11/03/2008
My husband and I got inspired and wrote an e-mail to friends and family, posted on facebook and myspace and community forums. Feel free to use the text or part of it.

Dear friends and family,

Sorry to send you this mass e-mail it's a gross last resort, but this race is too close and too historic to ignore. G. and I would like to ask a few minutes of your time to let you know about our views on Proposition 8 and why we are so committed to this civil rights issue.

Proposition 8 would change the constitution of California to limit marriage to being between a man and a woman, taking away rights that people have had for months and months. This would be the first time our constitution (or the constitution of the U.S) that would take away people's rights, rather than expand them. Prop 8 is heavily funded by the Mormon church and other out of state donors, such as the CEO of Blackwater and other people who helped elect Bush in 2000 and 2004.

The ad on www.noonprop8.com website, narrated by Samuel L. Jackson reminds us:

"It wasn't that long ago that discrimination was legal in California," the ad says.

"Latinos and African Americans were told who they could and could not marry." In fact this was true until 1949.
12:59 AM on 11/04/2008
"Latinos and African Americans were told who they could not marry."

Ironically it will probably be the same Latinos and African Americans, who are mostly socially conservative, who will decide the fate of Prop 8.
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10:48 PM on 11/03/2008
Mr. Newsome, you are a hero of mine. I admire you for the tireless work you have done on behalf of an all too often unappreciative gay community. NO other straight person and VERY FEW gay people have done as much as you have done in this modern civil rights struggle.

History will be VERY kind to you.

Namaste my brother.
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MarkInEugene
A blasphemy a day keeps the deities away.
09:59 PM on 11/03/2008
This is Fascism; this is not Democracy. Seriously, how can it be in this country that if you don't like a group of people, you can create a proposition to oppress them and limit their rights through laws? Citizens in the LGBT community are expected to pay taxes and be productive members of our society like anyone else. In every way, these fellow citizens participate in our society at every level, in every capacity, including its defense. Millions of them contribute to the educational system, yet have no children of their own. There are gay scientists, doctors, lawyer, and professionals of every kind contributing to this society. And just because you don't like their sexual preference, you feel justified in singling out this one group of people and telling them; sorry you can't have survivorship or parental rights for your families because we hate you.

I think those of you that feel that way are selfish, hateful, destructive fascists. I think if there is a benevolent, all knowing and understanding God, he/she would view your approach to the quarter billion gay and lesbians on the planet as reprehensible, grotesquely hypocritical, and diametrically opposed to anything remotely spiritual.
10:51 PM on 11/03/2008
Well said Mark!! A thoughtful and reasoned post. Thanks. VOTE TOMORROW IF U HAVEN'T ALREADY!!!
01:04 AM on 11/04/2008
"And just because you don't like their sexual preference, you feel justified in singling out this one group of people and telling them."

Just as citizens of Utah singled out Mormons to prohibit their practice of polygamy. ZThis is what Demcratic societies do, majorities decide what minority rights are beneficial, and which are not.
California electorate repeatedly approved providing gays with significant rights and priviliges ( most of which I support). But many Californians are now bulking at the marriage for gays as something socially unacceptable.
As Mason said to Dixon:" We've got to draw the line somewhere."

Yes on 2, Yes on 8, No on 11.
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03:34 AM on 11/04/2008
No, actually, that's exactly what the Bill of Rights is about...specifically to prevent majorities from deciding what "minority rights are beneficial." If the citiznes of Arkansas had had the last say on minority rights, do you think school desegregation would have taken place when it did? When a majority can say yay or nay to the civil rights of a minority, it's closer to mob rule than to democracy.

Oh, and a point of history - the citizens of Utah did not decide that polygamy was unacceptable. Doing away with the practice was a precondition for Utah joining the union, and hey presto, the LDS President had a convenient revelation that overruled the Mormon scriptures' clear support for plural marriage.
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abbeyroad
Does this rag smell like chloroform to you ?
09:55 PM on 11/03/2008
Francis_Parker_Yockey :

the constitution states that ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL.

NOT DOGS.

i suggest you get your *ss back into school and brush up on political science.
(apparently, you were daydreaming in high school when this was taught to you the first time).