Correcting the Record on Robert Reich's Statement about Hillary Clinton's Economic Policies

Posted December 6, 2007 | 10:41 AM (EST)



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While I have had a long and close relationship with Robert Reich--and I have a great deal of respect for Senator Obama--Reich's recent blog post about Senator Clinton's economic policies was so unfair and personal in its critique, and had so much incorrect information, I feel compelled to set the record straight.

1. Reich's suggestion that Senator Obama's Healthcare plan, which does not include an individual requirement, would actually cover more people than Senator Clinton's plan--and that Senator Clinton is "stooping low" to suggest otherwise--is neither logical nor plausible.

While I can understand a political rationale for not having an individual requirement for health insurance, I cannot possibly see how Bob - or anyone else - can make the statement that without such a requirement you might somehow cover more Americans than with one. Senator Clinton put forward a healthcare plan based on shared responsibility, including an individual requirement, after she and her advisors were convinced by the fact that every - and I mean every - independent expert we spoke to was unanimous in their view that without an individual requirement, her plan would fail to cover a large chunk of the uninsured. We knew that including an individual requirement would mean tougher attacks from most Republicans. But Senator Clinton chose to bear that risk because without such a requirement, she would not only be unable to achieve coverage for all Americans, but would be less able to combat insurance company discrimination and to end the hidden tax that comes from health costs being shifted from those without insurance to those who are covered.

Bob Reich makes the illogical leap that since individual requirements - like auto insurance - do not always lead to perfect compliance, programs without a requirement will cover the same or more people. Really? If one believed that, then they must believe that states would be better off getting rid of their apparently silly requirements for drivers to have auto insurance since as many or more people would be covered without. Requiring parents to educate their children does not have 100 percent compliance, but does anyone think it is a bad idea to require education for all children in the United States? Senator Obama made a choice to have a health insurance requirement for children because he knew that millions more children would be covered with that requirement than without. Whatever case the Obama campaign wants to make for its decision not to include a requirement for adults as well, suggesting that you can cover the same or more people is just not plausible.

I encourage Bob or anyone else interested in this issue to review the overwhelming consensus of credible independent experts who have found that an individual requirement is a necessary component of any plan designed to cover all Americans. [E.g. Jonathan Gruber, MIT (12/05/07); Diane Rowland, Kaiser Family Foundation (New York Times, 11/25/07); United Hospital Fund (December 2006); California Medical Association (July 2005); Henry Aaron and Bruce and Virginia MacLaury, Brookings Institution (CQ Congressional Testimony, 9/11/07); John Holahan, Urban Institute (October 2005); Len Nichols, New America Foundation (US Fed News, 6/26/07); Drew Altman, Kaiser Family Foundation (New York Times, 11/25/07)].

2. Reich's assertion that Senator Clinton "has no grounds for alleging that [Senator Obama's plan] would leave out 15 million people" is simply wrong.

For Bob to suggest that it is a cheap shot to make this highly supported point is puzzling. A recent study in the Journal of Inquiry found that in a voluntary system like the one Senator Obama advocates, "Even if the . . . subsidies were designed to be as effective as possible at covering the uninsured, at most half of the uninsured would gain coverage." Assuming that Senator Obama's child mandate would cover all children, his plan would still leave half of the adult uninsured population without healthcare. That's well over 15 million. Indeed, a number of independent analysts have confirmed that Senator Obama's plan would leave at least 15 million uninsured, including the Washington Post [6/9/07, "[T]he Obama plan could leave a third of those currently uninsured lacking coverage."], the Wall Street Journal [12/04/07, "Mrs. Clinton charges that Mr. Obama's plan would leave 15 million people without insurance. Outside experts agree that number is in the ballpark."], Jonathan Gruber of MIT [12/05/07, "The 15 million estimate that [Senator Clinton] used was validated by myself and other experts."] Jonathan Holohan of the Urban Institute [New Republic, 12/03/07, "Obama would still leave about 22 million, 23 million, but he has a mandate for children, about 9 million uninsured kids, so assuming you get most of them, you get pretty close to 15 million."], Len Nichols of the New America Foundation [New Republic, 12/03/07, "Every reasonable model out there . . . will show you that the kind of subsidies that we could do, 50 percent or so, are going to get you half [the uninsured] . . . The way you go from half to 15 [million] is the kid mandate."], and George Miller and Charles Roehrig of the Altarum research institute [New Republic, 12/03/07, "We've done some very crude hand calculations that suggest that the estimate of 15 million uninsured under an Obama-like plan (no individual mandate, coverage of all children, incentives) is in the right ball park."].

Bob is certainly free to disagree with these experts, but where is the validity in launching the steep charge that "HRC has no grounds for alleging that O's would leave out 15 million people"? (emphasis added).

3. Reich's statement that Obama's plan "puts more money up front" than Senator Clinton's plan is not accurate.

Senator Clinton's plan includes the most detailed financing framework of any of the Democratic plans. She has committed an up-front investment of $110 billion per year and has made the affordability of healthcare a centerpiece of her proposal. Bob says he wants details from Senator Clinton, but then praises Senator Obama for "proposing a reinsurance mechanism for catastrophic illnesses" for which he has offered virtually no details at all. A robust reinsurance mechanism is very costly and could, depending on its design, swallow up the majority of the $65 billion that Senator Obama has committed to his plan. Bob attacks Senator Clinton for lacking specifics, and yet claims with confidence that the Obama plan "contains sufficient subsidies to insure everyone who's likely to need help," when his plan contains fewer financing details to determine what it could or could not do. I understand that it is hard in a campaign season to adjust and calculate the moving parts of a comprehensive health care plan. Indeed, I admire all three of the leading Democratic candidates for putting out health care plans that far surpass what any Republican candidate has ever put forward in terms of coverage or detail. But I cannot understand or fathom for the life of me, how Bob could level such harsh critique on the detail in Senator Clinton's plan when there is less detail in Senator Obama's plan.

4. Reich's harsh criticism of Senator Clinton on enforcement is an unfair damned-if-you-don't, damned-if-you-do critique and misses the clear political origins of this critique.

In 1993-1994, then-First Lady Clinton and the White House policy staff put out each and every detail on how each component and enforcement measure of their health care plan would be addressed. She was widely criticized for dictating every detail instead of leaving room to work collaboratively with Congress. But now, when she responds to this lesson learned and says she will have effective enforcement but wants to work with Congress to reach a consensus on the most effective way possible, she is criticized as well. Let's be honest, folks: the argument that Senator Clinton's approach means she is not committed to enforcement was something created for the purpose of a political critique. Senator Obama criticized Senator Clinton for not having details on enforcement at the very same time that he had not (from everything I have been able to find) personally spoken of any details as to how he would force non-compliant parents to pay their share of premiums for their children.

It certainly appears that for months and months neither Senator Edwards nor Senator Obama truly believed that this level of detail was a sign of conviction for supporting a child health requirement or an overall health requirement. As a factual matter it is clear that they rushed out details only after Senator Obama launched critiques at Senator Clinton - a point made far too little by the press. At that point, it seems clear to me that each had to personally talk about the details of his enforcement measures to minimize exposure to being seen as hypocritical for criticizing Senator Clinton. Again, I understand that political campaigns are a contact sport and candidates will feel compelled to make such critiques against a front-runner. But why in the world would this lead Bob Reich to make the non-plausible case that Senator Clinton is stooping low on the enforcement issue? Besides, she and her campaign have put forward ideas to use schools and hospitals to register the uninsured and to work with employers to automatically enroll uninsured employees and withhold a small portion of their wages to pay for premiums [AP, 11/20/07]. So where is the beef?

5. On Social Security.

There is no question that Social Security faces a long-term financing shortfall. Senator Clinton has argued that 1) we should fix Social Security in the context of returning to fiscal responsibility, 2) that we will need to have a bipartisan process like was done in 1983 to reach an economically and politically viable solution, and 3) that it is not right for Democrats to start asking even upper-middle class families and seniors to consider tough choices on Social Security when most Republicans still are fighting tooth and nail to ensure that we continue providing large tax relief to the most well-off Americans and when little is being done to try to recoup the billions in tax revenue we lose from corporate tax avoidance and offshore tax havens.

What is so objectionable about this position? First, if our nation is not taking steps to increase our projected national savings, then it is hard to say that we are better preparing our country as a whole to deal with the baby boom retirement challenge. Second, history has shown that leadership in creating a bipartisan process is very often what it takes to make significant improvements in the solvency of Social Security and Medicare, as we saw in 1983 and 1997. I do not understand how--in an article where Bob is accusing Senator Clinton of "stridency and inaccuracy"--he can simply assert that "a commission will likely call either for raising the retirement age (that is what the Greenspan's Social Security commission came up with in the 1980s) or increasing the payroll tax on all Americans." How does he know that? And if Bob is so sure, he should also inform (and I guess to be even-handed criticize) Senator Obama, who wrote in his fine book, The Audacity of Hope, that "[t]he problems with the Social Security trust fund are manageable. In 1983, when facing a similar problem, Ronald Reagan and House Speaker Tip O'Neill got together and shaped a bipartisan plan that stabilized the system for the next sixty years. There's no reason we can't do the same today" (p.182). Senator Obama repeated this argument on This Week with George Stephanopoulos on May 13, 2007.

And third, I think it is reasonable to want to ensure that progressive leaders do not bargain against themselves and that we require mutual sacrifice from the most well-off among us before we ask for a contribution from working families and seniors. While Senator Clinton has taken privatization off the table and expressed a strong disagreement with raising retirement age, she has certainly left room for a truly constructive bipartisan solution.

Bob is most upset that Senator Clinton has criticized the proposal that Senator Obama has at times spoken favorably of to entirely eliminate the payroll cap. He even states that "the cap doesn't have to be lifted all that much to keep Social Security solvent - maybe to $115,000." [This statement is so factually incorrect that I will assume it was just a typo. Raising the payroll cap to that level would cover only a modest fraction of the solvency gap.]

As to the idea of lifting the payroll cap entirely or even to a level like $140,000: while I certainly think that this idea is far better than what many conservatives propose for solvency, I have never believed it is the most progressive way to move forward. If you lift the cap to $115,000, as Bob suggests, you may hit some very young professionals who are doing quite well. But you also would hit many people who just happen to live in high income areas or be in the senior part of their careers. For example, in high-cost areas like New York City and Chicago, a lot of families that make $100,000 to $115,000, especially those with several children, are not "upper class" and are struggling with stagnant wages and spiraling health, energy, and college costs just like many other families. If the cap were lifted to $115,000, as Reich suggests, NYPD lieutenants and NYC fire captains would face a tax hike of more than $1,000. If you raised the cap to $140,000, that NYPD lieutenant would be set back $1,500 and the fire captain would face a $2,600 tax increase. In addition, small business owners and the self-employed at that income level would face even higher tax hits, because they pay both the employee and employer side of the payroll tax.

In my book The Pro-Growth Progressive (November 2005), I offered a far more progressive idea: impose a small surtax on all income-wage and investment income - above $200,000 or higher (I would set the threshold today above where I pegged it then). This is one of several solvency ideas that are more progressive than simply raising the payroll cap and it wouldn't take a penny from the fire and police officials mentioned above. Senator Clinton is choosing to keep her options open, but has not ruled out considering such measures as part of a bipartisan process to address Social Security's long-term challenges.

Finally, while issues of "conviction" are certainly matters of opinion, let me register my strongest possible disagreement with Bob's harsh and unfounded charge that Senator Clinton and her campaign lack conviction about anything. I could describe her bold plan to combat climate change or her push toward providing paid leave by 2016, her universal savings agenda or her detailed plan to provide economic opportunity to young minority men. But consider just health care alone. You can love or criticize Senator Clinton's role in the health care plan in 1993-1994, but one thing that is beyond question is the degree of courage and conviction she displayed in that bold effort. How many of our leaders have ever put so much on the line to do something so important for so many Americans? And to come back in 2007 and not shy away from the issue, but put out a plan that calls for $110 billion in up-front costs and an individual requirement - even knowing the attacks she would face - hardly deserves that unfounded claim.

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- Chuckbutcher See Profile I'm a Fan of Chuckbutcher

Thanks to the plutocrats insourcing of illegal labor I have to pay my legal construction workers about 50% of what they would have made in 1984 and at that rate I, their employer, am losing ground. Toss an insurance mandate to support some other plutocrats on me as an employer and they will not have jobs. Yes, I do keep saying plutocrats. When the politcal system is rigged to benefit only the very rich, it is called a plutocracy, if you have a problem with my characterization, maybe you should pay attention.

Is Hillary a too of the plutocracy? Check her voting record and her supporters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:08 AM on 12/12/2007
- larry278 See Profile I'm a Fan of larry278

Does any plan resemble the French system of paying for medical AND dental care?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 PM on 12/11/2007
- bigtimernc See Profile I'm a Fan of bigtimernc

The single payer health care reform sounds great but there is one problem with that. You have to convince other people to do it. Do you think Kucinich can do that! 2. You have to make the insurers compete against the government and there is still too much lobbying power to change that right now so its not politically viable right now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 12/09/2007
- VinnieTheSnake See Profile I'm a Fan of VinnieTheSnake

The number of people mentioning Kucinich's plan on this comment page far out-numbers the mentions he gets in the MSM. Anyone who has looked at his plan "gets it." Even without looking at his plan, I figured out in 2000 that for-profit companies cannot perform their jobs more cost effectively than the non-profit government!
How much of the MSM is "subsidized" by the insurance industry? How can we get the debates produced by the League of Women's Voters again? I'm tired of everything in America being "sponsored" by corporations, which in turn muffles the discussions on all things corporate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 12/08/2007
- janmB See Profile I'm a Fan of janmB

There is no way to stop tradition. And that is the candidates have to submit a PLAN. A PLAN for this --a PLAN for that. It seems a waste of time to debate these PLANS because by the time any committee or lawmakers get through with it --it most likely wont even resemble the original.
Vote for the most intelligent---experienced--one who communicates best and is familiar with countries and knows the names of dignataries overseas. Then we shall be OKAY.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 AM on 12/08/2007
- PigLipstick See Profile I'm a Fan of PigLipstick

Sen. Clinton is looking to pick a lot of people"s pockets to pay for her healthcare plan that has all kinds of kick backs for her private insurance and private healthcare benefactors. She could muster all the funding required by Social Security and a comprehensive healthcare plan by ending her support of the Iraq occupation that is gobbling up 5 to 7 Billion dollars a month. In addition, the IOUs in the Social Security lockbox could be replaced with real money that was stolen to balance a lop sided budget that boast a 10 Trillion dollar debt by 2010.

Dennis Kucinich has the only workable plan with full coverage for all participants with out insurance company participation to suck 30 to 35% administration costs right off the top.

However, we could always just sit back and let the current system continue with 47+ million people without any coverage, an estimated additional 50 million people who are severely under insured, and 18,000 Americans dying every year from no access to any medical care at all. Add to that the taxpayer funded healthcare for 11 to 20 million illegal aliens and you have a system that is undeniably FUBAR !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 PM on 12/07/2007
- susanlno See Profile I'm a Fan of susanlno

Both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are focused on providing health "coverage" for everyone. Note that they are not talking about health "care." As many people know who have been bankrupted by serious illness, even though they have health insurance, insurance companies are happy to provide "coverage," but balk at allowing patients access to expensive "care."

We cannot call ourselves a civilized country so long as we do not even discuss the absurdity, not to mention the obscenity, of letting people sicken, suffer, and die because it is not considered cost-effective to provide care.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:12 PM on 12/07/2007
- enuffofw See Profile I'm a Fan of enuffofw

Universal health care...Universal health care...Universal health care...

Let me say this again for those of you who aren't listening: Universal health care. Just like Britain...Just like France...Just like Canada...just like the REST OF THE MODERN WORLD!

The issue is not Obama's or Hillary's or any other candidate's version of what presently passes as a health care system. The issue is a universal health care system for ALL Americans...

Nothing else will suffice...

Stop obfuscating...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 12/07/2007
- Bettysdad See Profile I'm a Fan of Bettysdad

Hillary's, as well as everyone else's except Kucinich, leaves the private insurance companies. As long as there is a profit motive attached to healthcare, it is doomed to failure.

Pretty much everything Hillary proposes is born out of expediency. She has no convictions, other than her belief she has a right to the White House.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:54 PM on 12/07/2007
- Nutcase See Profile I'm a Fan of Nutcase

That is a lot of words to cover the fact that the plans of both Clinton and Obama are keys to the Treasury for the insurance companies.

Our present system wastes 24 cents of every healthcare dollar on administration and profits for hundreds of health insurance companies. A single-payer system could bring that down to the range of 5-6 cents per dollar.

The savings would allow for universal coverage, with a gold-plated system. Choose your own physician and hospital. Cover drugs, preventive care, eyeglasses, dental care, everything - and still save money.

I don't care if you call it taxes, premiums or donations, it still comes out of the same pocket. The above is predicated on individuals and companies paying the same as they are now.

Preventive care, periodic checkups and people able and willing to go the doctor's office promptly instead of waiting until the problem becomes more difficult would all help reduce the costs further.

There are other, daunting problems with our healthcare system. Double-digit inflation is one. A single-payer system will give us the breathing room we need to address these other problems.

Business has discovered that it cannot compete internationally with the costs that are here and the ones that are coming. They are coming to realize, much too slowly, that they need a single-payer system too.

Against all of this are the insurance companies, the drug industry and those they have bought.

The plans of both Clinton and Obama will require the insurance and drug companies to enlarge their coffers. Whether it comes to them as taxes or premiums, it comes from you and me.

When the screaming of the insurance and drug companies drowns out a candidate, I will know that he/she has put us above his/her owner.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:37 PM on 12/07/2007
- green13 See Profile I'm a Fan of green13

There are too many holes to plug up in the argument as presented. It would take an equally long statement to begin to cover them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 12/07/2007
- TIMLHOWE See Profile I'm a Fan of TIMLHOWE

I believe a return of Gene Sperling to our national economic leadership is one of the best reasons to support Hillary for President. This is a guy who could have gone to wall street in 2001 and made gazillions, but instead he stayed in DC and worked and fought on economic policy issues for all democrats and all americans. His choice and his idealism is of the rarest order in our nation's capital. I applaud him with admiration and gratitude.

But Robert Reich....?

ugh...

I interviewed him on the radio , in the ninties, on a labor funded radio show, when his book came out after he had ..."left" the Clinton administration. He was even at that point, obviously already quite bitter towards his old friends tthe Clintons for not keepin him on as Sec of Labor. Though we agreed on most, if not all issues, it was a sadly disappointing hour.

In 2000, Reich actively and vehemently campaigned against Al Gore and said some shocking things that I am sure he would best like forgotten, but I never will. The attacks he made on Gore - were very much like those he now uses on Hillary ow...very personal, wrapped in a camouflage of policy and references to an old "friendship". In 2002, when Reich ran for Governor of Mass and President Clinton supported another Dem in the primaary, I think it becaame quite clear fro the Clinton bashing rhetoric after he didnt get he President's endorsement, that this "friendship" was very broken indeed.

This harsh and unfair statement from Reich this week is not the first attack on Hillary of this campaign from him. The saddest and most false thing about it is that he wrote it as if he was writing from the perspective of a disappointed friend rather than that of an acrimonious and nowadays bitter rival, which seems to this viewer to be much closer to the truth about his present relationship with the Clintons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 PM on 12/07/2007
- Hubert See Profile I'm a Fan of Hubert

From the Reich post that got this all started:

"I just don"t get it. If there"s anyone in the race whose history shows unique courage and character, it's Barack Obama. HRC"s campaign, by contrast, is singularly lacking in conviction about anything. Her pollster, Mark Penn, has advised her to take no bold positions and continuously seek the political center, which is exactly what she"s been doing."

HRC: lacks conviction
HRC: no bold positions
HRC: seeks political center

This is why she is losing support. This is why her health care plan is overly vague.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 PM on 12/07/2007
- jrizal See Profile I'm a Fan of jrizal

Paul Krugman on 12/7/07 similarly rebuts the arguments made by NY Times' 12/5/07 article written by Katharine Seelye on http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/07/opinion/07krugman.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin.

I support universal healthcare through a single payer system, and while the candidates' proposals fall short, I agree that Obama's plan is worse than Clinton's and Edwards' proposed reforms.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 12/07/2007
- Norm See Profile I'm a Fan of Norm

I have not studied Hillary's mandated health plan, but, as a resident of Massachusetts, I can tell you the devil is in the details. Everyone should pay attention to them. I was paying $10,000 for health insurance, working 18-40 hours a week variably. The job barely covered the insurance and I could no longer afford to pay for it at the end of last year. When the new health insurance plan was implemented, I was delighted - right up until my employer finally offered a policy from a slew approved by the new state plan.

The catch: the state will assist with high premiums under the new plan, but they do not give a rat's pettoot about co-pays. As one representative from the state told me, "The co-pay could be a million dollars and you would still have to pay it: the policy would still be approved."

My employer came up with a reasonable $200 a month premium policy, lower if you rejected prescription coverage. However, it required payment of a $500 deductible to set foot in a doctor's office. Prescription premiums were as high as fifty dollars. Given that my company's employees were earning about $10 an hour, depending on the number of hours of work they could get a week/month, there were a substantial number for whom the insurance was useless. First of all, in a random month, the premium could exceed income and even if it didn't, they were forced participate in an insurance plan where they still could not see a doctor, because they could not afford the $500 deductible required before a doctor's visit. Nor could they afford the prescription co-pay.

I don't call this a plan. I call it piling on the poor. While intentions were good and in many cases successful, there are a number of Massachusetts residents who still can not afford health insurance. The state has some kinks to work out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 AM on 12/07/2007
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