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'The Broccoli Horrible': Ginsburg Shreds Roberts

Posted: 06/28/2012 6:16 pm

In its decision today upholding the constitutionality of the Affordable Care Act, the Supreme Court, by a five-to-four vote, held that the individual mandate provision (requiring uninsured individuals who can afford to buy health insurance to do so) was justified by the Congress' power to tax, but not by its power to regulate interstate commerce. In the end, the difference may seem insignificant. When all the dust settled, the individual mandate is constitutional. But it is nonetheless worth understanding the disagreement about the reach of the Commerce Clause, because this was the primary focus of most of the public debate leading up to the decision and was also the subject of the wildly popular broccoli hypothetical.

Only one justice thought the Act was constitutional under the taxing power but not the commerce power -- Chief Justice Roberts. The other eight justices thought the Act was either constitutional (Ginsburg, Breyer, Sotomayor, Kagan) or unconstitutional (Scalia, Kennedy, Thomas, Alito) under both provisions.

To understand why Ginsburg, Breyer, Sotomayor and Kagan were right about the constitutionality of the Act under the Commerce Clause (even though they lost five-to-four on that issue), I have reprinted below a heavily-edited and abridged (by me) excerpt from Justice Ginsburg's dissenting opinion on the Commerce Clause issue. In my view, it absolutely shreds the opposing view and, in any event, is an excellent primer on the question:

By any measure, the health care market is immense, accounting for 17.6 percent of our Nation's economy. Moreover, unlike the market for almost any other product or service, the market for medical care is one in which all individuals inevitably participate. Moreover, on average, an individual in the United States incurs over $7,000 in health-care expenses each year. To manage the risks associated with medical care -- its high cost, its unpredictability, and its inevitability -- most people in the United States obtain health insurance.

Not all U. S. residents, however, have health insurance. In 2009, approximately 50 million people were uninsured, either by choice or, more likely, because they could not afford private insurance and did not qualify for government aid. As a group, uninsured individuals annually consume more than $100 billion in health-care services.

Unlike markets for most products, the inability to pay for care does not mean that an uninsured individual will receive no care. Federal and state law, as well as professional obligations and embedded social norms, require hospitals and physicians to provide care when it is most needed, regardless of the patient's ability to pay. As a consequence, medical-care providers deliver significant amounts of care to the uninsured for which the providers receive no payment.

Health-care providers do not absorb these bad debts. Instead, they raise their prices, passing along the cost of uncompensated care to those who do pay. In response, private insurers increase their premiums, shifting the cost onto those who carry insurance. The net result: Those with health insurance subsidize the medical care of those without it.

The size of this subsidy is considerable. Congress found that the cost-shifting just described "increases family [insurance] premiums by on average over $1,000 a year." Higher premiums, in turn, render health insurance less affordable, forcing more people to go without insurance and leading to further cost-shifting. Congress therefore passed the individual mandate provision of the ACA to address an economic and social problem that has plagued the nation for decades.

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The Commerce Clause was the Framers' response to the central problem that gave rise to the Constitution itself. What was needed was a "national Government ... armed with a positive & compleat authority in all cases where [national] measures are necessary." (Quoting James Madison.) The Framers' solution was the Commerce Clause, which, as they perceived it, granted Congress the authority to enact economic legislation "in all Cases for the general Interests of the Union." (Quoting Alexander Hamilton.)

Consistent with the Framers' intent, we have repeatedly emphasized that Congress' authority under the Commerce Clause is dependent upon "practical" considerations. Until today, this Court's pragmatic approach to judging whether Congress validly exercised its commerce power was guided by two familiar principles. First, Congress has the power to regulate economic activities "that substantially affect interstate commerce." Second, we owe a large measure of respect to Congress when it frames and enacts economic and social legislation. When appraising such legislation, we ask only (1) whether Congress had a "rational basis" for concluding that the regulated activity substantially affects interstate commerce, and (2) whether there is a "reasonable connection between the regulatory means selected and the asserted ends."

Straightforward application of these principles would require the Court to hold that the individual mandate provision is proper Commerce Clause legislation. Beyond dispute, Congress had a rational basis for concluding that the uninsured, as a class, substantially affect interstate commerce. Not only do those without insurance consume billions of dollars of health care each year, but their inability to pay for a significant portion of that consumption drives up market prices, foists costs on other consumers, and reduces market efficiency and stability. Given these far-reaching effects on interstate commerce, the decision to forego insurance is hardly inconsequential or equivalent to "doing nothing."

* * * * * * *

Rather than evaluating the constitutionality of the minimum coverage provision in the manner established by our precedents, THE CHIEF JUSTICE relies on a newly minted constitutional doctrine. The commerce power does not, THE CHIEF JUSTICE announces, permit Congress to "compe[l] individuals to become active in commerce by purchasing a product." THE CHIEF JUSTICE's novel constraint on Congress' commerce power gains no force from our precedent and for that reason alone warrants disapprobation.

But even assuming that Congress lacks authority under the Commerce Clause to "compel individuals not engaged in commerce to purchase an unwanted product," such a limitation would be inapplicable here. Everyone will, at some point, consume health-care products and services. Thus, if THE CHIEF JUSTICE is correct that an insurance purchase requirement can be applied only to those who"actively" consume health care, the minimum coverage provision fits the bill. More than 60% of those without insurance visit a hospital or doctor's office each year, and nearly 90% will do so within five years.

THE CHIEF JUSTICE draws an analogy to the car market. An individual "is not 'active in the car market,'" THE CHIEF JUSTICE observes, simply because he or she may someday buy a car. The analogy is inapt. The inevitable yet unpredictable need for medical care and the guarantee that emergency care will be provided when required are conditions nonexistent in other markets. That is so of the market for cars, and of the market for broccoli as well. Although an individual might buy a car or a crown of broccoli one day, there is no certainty she will ever do so. And if she eventually wants a car or has a craving for broccoli, she will be obliged to pay at the counter before receiving the vehicle or nourishment. She will get no free ride or food, at the expense of another consumer forced to pay an inflated price.

Underlying THE CHIEF JUSTICE's view that the Commerce Clause must be confined to the regulation of active participants in a commercial market is a fear that the commerce power would otherwise know no limits. As an example of the type of regulation he fears, THE CHIEF JUSTICE cites a Government mandate to purchase green vegetables. One could call this concern "the broccoli horrible." Congress, THE CHIEF JUSTICE posits, might adopt such a mandate, reasoning that an individual's failure to eat a healthy diet, like the failure to purchase health insurance, imposes costs on others.

Consider the chain of inferences the Court would have to accept to conclude that a vegetable-purchase mandate was likely to have a substantial effect on the health-care costs borne by lithe Americans. The Court would have to believe that individuals forced to buy vegetables would then eat them (instead of throwing or giving them away), would prepare the vegetables in a healthy way (steamed or raw, not deep-fried), would cut back on unhealthy foods, and would not allow other factors (such as lack of exercise or little sleep) to trump the improved diet.

When contemplated in its extreme, almost any power looks dangerous. The commerce power, hypothetically, would enable Congress to prohibit the purchase of all meat, fish, and dairy goods, effectively compelling Americans to eat only vegetables. Yet no one would offer the "hypothetical and unreal possibilit[y]" of a vegetarian state as a credible reason to deny Congress the authority ever to ban the possession and sale of heroin. THE CHIEF JUSTICE accepts just such specious logic when he cites the broccoli horrible as a reason to deny Congress the power to pass the individual mandate.

For the reasons explained above, the minimum coverage provision is valid Commerce Clause legislation.

 
 
 
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01:05 PM on 07/03/2012
The Preamble to the Constitution recites "promote the general welfare" as one purpose for its enactment, and Art.I,Section 8 provides that "Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes..to provide for the general welfare of the United States...[and] to make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing powers and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States..". The problem with calling the AFA mandate a tax is the proceeding Section 7 that provides "All bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives" (which it did not), and Section 9, following, "No capitation, or other direct tax, shall be laid unless in Proportion to the Census or Enumeration herein before being directed to be taken" (which it does not, notwithstanding the XVI Amendment which permits an INCOME tax without apportionment) . So, respectfully, Justice Ginsberg and Professor Stone are plain wrong, and Chief Justice Roberts would fail his ConLaw exam for an answer that is con but not law.
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Michael Shanley
08:54 AM on 07/01/2012
Best way I've heard it explained....
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AmeriGus
Wore On Terror
12:25 PM on 07/01/2012
Amazing we never heard it explained so succinctly till now.
01:51 AM on 07/01/2012
unlike any other kind of commerce, at Any time, ANy person without insurance could be in a catastrophic accident (hit by car walking across the street, or driving) and use up public resources. They would become a participant in the commerce of healtthcare. They would get it for free if need be. Nothing is like this.
Some peole who are against this plan may be in denial that they could get very ill or injured and would need insurance. if they have insurance, without Obamacare their company could DUMP them just when they need the insurance the most. And then, without Obamacare, they'd have a pre-existing condition so might not be able to buy other insurance EVER!
If they don't have insurance, they are taking the risk that they will be on the public's money in the ER.
That's why this is different than other commerce.
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marymeade2
I prefer liberty over tyranny
09:57 AM on 07/01/2012
If I can ask you, what is your definition of a "pre-existing condition?" Do you understand the underlying principles of insurance?

Frankly, I'm rather shocked that so many don't, including Justices on the Supreme Court? We wonder why this horrible divide. None of us understand why the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court took it upon himself to rewrite the health care law, nor do we understand how in one fail swoop our country's mode of governing has changed from that of a Republic to an all inclusive federal take over. It's shocking that so many of you want this. There are and were so many other remedies, available, to reform our insurance system and medical systems and to resort to this is appalling.
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AmeriGus
Wore On Terror
12:27 PM on 07/01/2012
Why didn't the Bush administration implement any of the many remedies you speak of when they had majorities in all three chambers?
12:26 AM on 07/02/2012
The template for Obamacare was Romneycare in MA
the Heritage Foundation (yes a Concervative group) lauded the MA healthcare law, complete with it's individual mandate.
It was based very much, on the 1993 REPUBLICAN National healthcare bill that the Reps in Congress put forth to counter Clinton's (failed) bill.
So...
This bill is pretty moderate. I wonder what extreme claims of fact you have heard that have you so alarmed. This bill is based on Moderate and Republican ideas. Many of the Republicans in Congress who voted against it were FOR these things when they were in Congress and Republicans proposed them!
01:42 AM on 07/01/2012
too bad Justice Ginsberg is not the Chief Justice. What an impressive and sharp mind.
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TokyoTea
12:14 AM on 07/01/2012
Justice Ginsburg: Tiny but mighty.

I hope she stays in office for a long time.
11:07 PM on 06/30/2012
Wow. The conservatives actually tried to compare the market for healthcare to that for cars? Sorry, but politics makes people stupid. They should know better than to side with such a ridiculous argument. Ginsberg did a great job of taking them apart. The conservative justices should be ashamed of themselves for making such an intellectually dishonest argument.
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Steelerfanman
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10:43 PM on 06/30/2012
Absolutely brilliant!
Tim The Enchanter
Gary Johnson 2016
10:28 PM on 06/30/2012
"For the reasons explained above, the minimum coverage provision is valid Commerce Clause legislation."

.....except that you can't even quote a single phrase from the Constitution that backs that up. Not one.

Why? Because your "rationale" is based on what dead people have said about the Constitution 150 years after it was written, not what was actually written, nor what the writers and the foundres themselves said.

"They are not to lay taxes ad libitum for any purpose they please; but only to pay the debts or provide for the welfare of the Union." - Thomas Jefferson

This tax does not pay the debts or provide for the welfare of the Union.
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AmeriGus
Wore On Terror
12:37 PM on 07/01/2012
It sure does. Because you didn't absorb the important explained in the article, we'll do it once again.

You and I pay about $1,000 per year to pay for health care for the uninsured. This is not called a "tax", it's called cost-shifting. It comes through higher premiums and higher charges at hospitals and for health care goods and services.

But we all pay through the nose as if it were a tax. It's been killing business, killing competitiveness and making insurance less obtainable every year.

Congress deemed the new regulation to reduce this cost-shifting "reasonable" regulation, to stop the unfair shifting of costs to you and I from the free riders.

This is interpreted today as in the welfare of the Union.

It's ironic that you are fighting for greater socialism under the current system - we all pay for the uninsured by spreading the cost around to all - and Obama is fighting for greater capitalism - insurers get a guaranteed customer base with guaranteed profits up to 20%.

Things are sure upside down.
Tim The Enchanter
Gary Johnson 2016
03:31 PM on 07/01/2012
But things are upside down because Congress has been making unconstitutional laws and mandates for decades. Are we supposed to fix all of that with one more? Do you really think having more people in the insurance system will drive down costs?

Congress is allowed to tax IF it is to set aside money for the general welfare (as enumerated below that phrase). It is NOT allowed to tax in order to punish people or force them to do things that are perfectly legal not to do. Imagine how odd mandatory insurance would have sounded 100 years ago. As odd to them as the idea of "food insurance" sounds to us.

I'm not fighting for anything like socialism. I'm saying two wrongs don't make a right and we need to get rid of all of them, not pile on more. If a burglar broke your door in and stole your stuff, then showed up with a gun the next day saying "you're going to give my friend here $2000 to fix your door", are you going to be happy about that? Because it sounds like you'd be thrilled.
07:13 AM on 07/03/2012
You are aware that the same T. Jefferson you quote above voted for a mandatory tax to provide healthcare for sailors in 1798? It was called "The Act for Relief of Sick and Disabled Seaman" and was the first Federal payroll tax enacted in this country. Not every American participated in the merchant marine, but Jefferson saw no Constitutional conflict in requiring that those Americans who did, be mandated to provide for their own healthcare. The Founders had no problem with madating taxation to solve social problems including healthcare, or to ensure commercial success for the nation by providing health services.
Tim The Enchanter
Gary Johnson 2016
08:43 AM on 07/03/2012
That's because it concerned the power over trade, specifically ships coming in with sick and diseased sailors and so in order to dock, you have to have everything in order.

See how that works? They enacted a tax that actually concerned a delegated power.

Are we all foreign sailors now?
Tim The Enchanter
Gary Johnson 2016
10:22 PM on 06/30/2012
"More than 60% of those without insurance visit a hospital or doctor's office each year, and nearly 90% will do so within five years."

And guess WHAT? Those people pay out of their wallet. It's called PATMOS. And there are increasing number of PATMOS clinics popping up that ONLY take cash, and offer services for half or less what normal clinics charge. I had a baby and paid CASH. It wasn't that much money.
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DarcieRN
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11:51 PM on 06/30/2012
Good thing you could afford it. And that there was an affordable provider nearby. Wonder - do they take chickens, from people who can't afford, say, treatment for serious chronic or acute conditions, or say, for cardiac surgery?
Tim The Enchanter
Gary Johnson 2016
09:22 AM on 07/01/2012
What would happen to the cost of medicine if insurance didn't exist. Be honest.
01:43 AM on 07/01/2012
others wait till they are very sick and go to the ER, which must treat them.
Tim The Enchanter
Gary Johnson 2016
09:03 AM on 07/01/2012
I've been to the emergency room and paid the bill. They're glad to break it down into payments. But why don't people pay? Because most ER bills are so ridiculously high on purpose that the people can't pay them and it's better for the hospital, having invested almost no money in it, to go to the government wilth a huge bill and demand they pay it.
Tim The Enchanter
Gary Johnson 2016
10:19 PM on 06/30/2012
"Moreover, unlike the market for almost any other product or service, the market for medical care is one in which all individuals inevitably participate. "

That is entirely IMMATERIAL to the consitutionality.

Aside from this, it's just plain wrong. Americans inevitably participate in all kinds of markets - the personal electronics market, the telecommunications market, the television market, the housing market, the food market, the automotive market, etc, etc. So why can't we force people to buy food insurance? How about telephone insurance?
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TokyoTea
12:15 AM on 07/01/2012
You missed the point. Medical care isn't the same kind of choice.
Tim The Enchanter
Gary Johnson 2016
09:05 AM on 07/01/2012
No, not since the government made it so expensive. Still, that doesn't give Congress any power at all over it.
01:46 AM on 07/01/2012
it is not immaterial as I (and Justice Ginsberg) see it. It goes to the reason why it is constitutional. Commerce clause!
to go your way...
why can many states force you to buy car insurance? answer--because they deem that overall it is for the greatest good for the public. Why then do you not worry the state would "force people to buy food insurance or telephone insurance?"
We dont' worry because the elected officials of the state wouldn't make us do unnecessary things ...only stuff that greatly helps the greater good.
Tim The Enchanter
Gary Johnson 2016
08:59 AM on 07/01/2012
But everyone inevitably participates in the funeral market, so does that give Congress the power over it? Where in the Constitution does it say "the power to regulate any market in which people inevitably participate"??????

You guys just impose your philosophy OVER the Constitution and then claim your philosophy is in it.

Why can states force insurance? 10th Amendment. Wha does that say?

Insurance not only isn't necessary, it's self-defeating. People buy insurance because they have been told they can't afford a big health care bill. Then the insurance BECOMES the big health care bill they can't afford. My parents spend enough money a year on insurance for several operations and a truck load of drugs. So, sure, let's force more of that on people.
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MissTake1989
Equal means equal, hypocrites.
10:17 PM on 06/30/2012
Also, I don't understand Roberts pretzel logic...claiming that if the court can find a way to deem a law Constitutional they should....EVEN if it is unconstitutional by other standards.

So, in this care, the Commerce Clause argument was deemed to be bunk...BUT, they called it a tax and upheld it on those grounds.

So, couldn't a President Romney pass a tax on being black or Jewish or a woman...?

Sure, discrimination of that sort IS unconstitutional, but taxes ARE Constitutional, so...using Robert's logic...it should be fine.

It's not a law AGAINST being black or Jewish or a woman...it's just a tax you pay if you are...

I wish the people cheering this ruling would just admit that they wanted HCR upheld and didn't care if Roberts claimed a dog told him how to vote...

There is no legal basis for it.
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DarcieRN
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11:52 PM on 06/30/2012
Seems like you didn't read the article.
12:16 AM on 07/01/2012
That's right, so Congress can now say, if you don't buy a hybrid for your next car, you will be taxed! If you don't keep your thermostat at 80 in the summer, you will be taxed! If you don't replace you're windows with Government approved windows, you will be taxed! Don't you all see the
Slippery slope?? Congress can now penalize you for NOT doing something by taxing you! Wow, this is scary!!
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AmeriGus
Wore On Terror
12:53 PM on 07/01/2012
Only if it "reasonably" shifts a cost burden onto everyone else. If you read the article, the idea of forcing people to buy broccoli is extreme because it's only one small part of an overall lifestyle affecting our diet and exercise and other factors.

Healthcare is different because those who pay have so much cost added because of the free riders, it was affecting our liberty. When you buy insurance, you are paying for the moochers through higher premiums and higher charges for goods and services.

The Constitution says Congress can act to regulate this if it's proven reasonable, under the Commerce clause or ability to tax. Now, if you are really principled, you'll start to wonder why they included up to a 20% profit for insurance corporations in the law.
Tim The Enchanter
Gary Johnson 2016
10:15 PM on 06/30/2012
"First, Congress has the power to regulate economic activities "that substantially affect interstate commerce." "

No it doesn't. There's nothing like that in the Constitution.

"Second, we owe a large measure of respect to Congress when it frames and enacts economic and social legislation. "

Ummm, no, we don't. They owe the Constitution and the people a large measure of respect that is entirely lacking. Congress doesn't have a 10% approval rating for nothing. We owe it NOTHING. They owe US everything.
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jjsardo
Proud liberal in a red state.
09:56 PM on 06/30/2012
The so-called “brocolli argument” is misapplied in the Commerce Clause context.

It could, however, be considered a public health issue, If, for example, brocolli proved to be a cure for a contagious, fatal disease, the Congress could force all citizens to eat the vegetable. Indeed, it would be obligated to do so to protect the public health since refusing to eat brocolli would be a matter of life and death for millions of Americans. The same reasoning could be applied to health insurance since lack of it could also be a matter of life and death to any number of citizens.

Hopefully, the vegie could be synthesized and taken in pill or vaccine form.
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DarcieRN
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11:55 PM on 06/30/2012
Don't think so. In the U.S., idiotin are even allowed to not get their children much-needed, life-saving vaccinations - even though these people are putting the health of entire populations in jeopardy.
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jjsardo
Proud liberal in a red state.
08:35 AM on 07/01/2012
That is the case. However, those people and their children must remain separate from the community. For example, they are not permitted to enroll in public schools or colleges. In other words, pay a penalty for not complying with the law.

However, I was thinking along somewhat different lines than vaccinations for common childhood diseases. For example, a deadly bacterium or virus that threatened whole populations. As a matter of life and death, I certainly hope government would exercise its power to force people to take a preventative..

Now government could indeed pay for the cure using its taxing power. And I think that may be what Roberts was alluding to. However, during a public emergency, government has vast powers and they could be exercised through the Commerce Clause.

I'm neither jurist nor lawyer. However, I would expect, even demand, government protect all its citizens in case of such an emergency.

The only exception I would make would be for Antonin Scalia. He can do whatever he wants. My guess is that he would be first in line and screw the Constitution.
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babybuda
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09:43 PM on 06/30/2012
Thank You Mr. Stone for this and Thank you to the Honorable Justice of the United States Supreme Court Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
09:00 PM on 06/30/2012
An eloquent dissection of the majority opinion. And Americans are not active in health care commerce? Americans have a choice as to whether to purchase broccoli or autos whereas utilizing health care services, whether intending to be an "active participant" or not, is the inevitable consequence of living in a society that provides such services and does not let people die on the street. The sick, those who do not seek preventative care, get flu shots, etc also affect our labor market and our economy in general.
The Chief Justice's market analogies reflect a failed attempt to inject "choice" into the equation but the health care system is not a marketplace. There is inevitably a lack of transparency as well as gross information asymmetries that affect consumer "choice" (which hospital in your area has the best prices for a hysterectomy, cardiac care, or lung surgery?) and it is not possible to know when or how much health insurance coverage one needs, given the unknowable future. Also, a third party, physicians, largely make the decisions for us as to what services to consume and when. With broccoli, you are on your own.