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Paul Ryan Says America Needs Choice: Are Women American Citizens?

Posted: 08/13/2012 9:55 am

Will Romney and Ryan decide what Americans can do with our reproductive systems?

"We will honor you, our fellow citizens, by giving you the right and opportunity to make the choice."

That is exactly what Republican candidate for vice president Paul Ryan said in his speech Saturday morning: he emphasized the need for Americans to take back its right to choose.

Americans, he implied, know what's best for ourselves. We are a smart and responsible people. We want the government off our backs and out of our wallets, Paul Ryan's message implied.

Isn't it right to assume that, if we want the government out of off our backs and out of our wallets, we'd also want the government out our wombs, away from our cervixes, and out of vaginal area generally?

If American citizens need to be responsible for our own medical decisions, don't our girly-bits count as part of ourselves? Or are they open for government inspection -- like having an emissions test -- because they are under the hood?

American women are American citizens: at least they are until the next election.

Actually, let's take a vote: Hands up everybody who believes American women are fully operational American citizens.

Okay, those of you with your hands down are not allowed to decide what happens when we have sex, get pregnant, need healthcare, need a termination, or need a hysterectomy.

Get your hands away from us; get your probes and your paperwork back to the 19th century where they belong (but where independent and intelligent women were already challenging men's rights of ownership over the bodies of women).

If the Republicans get into office -- if Romney and Ryan win, the Bush and Quayle won -- will women continue to have choices concerning our own reproductive freedom? Not if they get a chance to take it away from us. And that's because they do not consider women able to make choices. Choices are not left up to individual women but must be decided by the government.

Surely these guys are smart enough to smell hypocrisy when it's so close to them? When they're not only walking in it but spreading it?

Will politicians -- Romney and Ryan first among them -- who want to leave the citizenry to make its own decisions permit women to decide what to do with our wombs? Will women be trusted with choice? Will the right wing protect that?

 
 
 

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blueunicorn
12:44 PM on 08/17/2012
I won't be posting to this thread anymore. Apparently the moderator disagreed with my stance. I was replying to what I thought were rude and ignorant comments. I offered information regarding how impossible it was for married couples to get access to contraception via the pill until the Supreme Court decision in the 1960's. This was a rebuttal to the comments about contraceptives always being available and legal, which was not always the case, and could change with far to right Republicans getting the majority in Congress. I fully expect this comment not to be posted either.
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WomenDeserveAVoice
02:35 PM on 08/14/2012
It frightening that Paul Ryan voted for the Let Women Die act. It's frightening that he wants to make it so women who have the misfortune to get a very common and deadly ectopic pregnancy die when the embryo bursts their tubes, because the embryo should have MORE rights than the woman carrying it, even if it kills her. He doesn't want women who get pregnant and have cancer to get medical treatment for their cancer, even if the delay kills them. He wants to force rape victims to endure the physical and emotional torture of carrying the spawn of their evil rapist monster. He wants 8 year old little girls raped by their fathers to be forced to have their brother/son despite the irreparable damage it will do to her body and her psyche. Romney and Ryan want reproductive legislation that hurts, humiliates and kills women to push an unscientific religious agenda on women and their wombs. They see women as sex toys and fetal incubators, and that's it. They are dangerous and anyone who loves or cares about women will NOT vote for these two.
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SolarArray
Republican = Trash America, Any Cost
07:35 PM on 08/13/2012
I still say women will be the person of the year in Time magazine. Standing up for your rights against the medieval Republicans is a noble goal and will be won. Where are their jobs, jobs, jobs? Oh, they are too busy?
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Theo16610
mea navis aëricumbens anguillis abundat
07:05 PM on 08/13/2012
GINA, Gina, gina,
Catch a clue

You've always had the right to choose your method of birth control
I expect the pill has been available from the local pharmacy, for your entire life.
Annual check ups are always covered in insurance plans
Ergo, go get your Rx for whatever method floats your boat.
Then go to the pharmacy and buy it
That ain't gonna change
11:45 PM on 09/28/2012
Theo, Theo, Theo
Although the FDA approved the first oral contraceptive in 1960, contraceptives were not available to married women in all states until 1965 and were not available to unmarried women in all states until 1972.
You erroneously assume all women have health insurance and that annual check-ups are covered by all plans.
Have you been following legislation in Arizona? According to the AZ legislature, pregnancy begins 2 weeks BEFORE ovulation and any device (e.g. IUD) or substance (e.g. pill) that prevents pregnancy is an abortion. Sounds to me like Arizona is outlawing birth control.
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Theo16610
mea navis aëricumbens anguillis abundat
01:32 PM on 10/01/2012
Stop deflecting.

All women with
health insurance have access.

ACA expands access
to heath insurance.

Introducing people
who still won't be covered is another conversation all together, it's a
deflection

--

Stop playing the
boogieman card as a real threat.

There is plenty of
bad legislation, which is corrected by our courts.  I'm not saying ignore it, but the pro-life
crowd always has and will continue to propose legislation that supports their
views (price of democracy)
04:58 PM on 08/13/2012
Gina Barreca: "Aren't women American Citizens?"

Paul Ryan (making a sad look) : "Well... not ones that count."
JNarragansett
Check your premises
03:28 PM on 08/13/2012
"...that's because they do not consider women able to make choices."

Are women able to make choices for themselves or is the only choice to agree with you?

Some truths - Roe v. Wade won't be overturned, if you're scared you don't understand. If you understand, stop scaremongering. Having the right to make reproductive choices is not the same as having the right to have someone else pay for your reproductive choices. Women are not a monolithic group and each woman is capable of making her own determination as to what is important to her.
04:49 PM on 08/13/2012
"Having the right to make reproductive choices is not the same as having the right to have someone else pay for your reproductive choices"

That may be true, BUT time has shown again and again that women who do not have access to health care, reproductive care, etc are extremely likely to end up on welfare, cash assistance, getting no support from 2/3rds of dads who were supposed to pay child support, etc. Not to mention missed opportunities for college, career, etc. We all end up paying even MORE if we do nothing to help each other.
JNarragansett
Check your premises
10:54 AM on 08/14/2012
I'm glad you concede that the right to make reproductive choices is not the same as having someone else pay for those choices.
05:09 PM on 08/13/2012
Speaking of not understanding...
01:18 PM on 08/13/2012
The right to choose what? Health care? Not really if insurance companies are free to deny you or drop you from their coverage. Vouchers don't guarantee that the insurance companies have to accept all that pick them and to cover X, Y, and Z services. There's no choice if what we need is priced out of affordability for even the average American. Choose a school for the kiddo? It already does exist--move to the desirable district. But don't take public dollars to pay for a private school. Choose how to plan a family? There's no choice for others if you allow your morals to dictate what's proper. Choose a job? That's hard to do in this economy right now, and too many Americans are picky about what they work with.
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Allen Clark
01:08 PM on 08/13/2012
have the right to have government out of your wombs? that is an interesting concept. the only problem is your not just making a decission about you womb, your making a decission for two and I am not sure your qualified to make that decission and secondly, I really do not like the idea of paying for your abortions when you can not refrain from you sexual urges.
12:24 AM on 08/14/2012
therefore, every male should be sterilized if he gets a woman pregnant as well, because, clearly, he isnt able to refrain from his sexual urges, correct? basically, the law should be: no birth control, no abortion, no welfare. let's see how many LIVE babies we can create and then abandon. Romney/Paul '12
11:49 PM on 09/28/2012
Did you read about the 14 year old Florida girl who gave birth in her home bathroom and strangled the unwanted baby? She put the corpse in a box that her mother found a couple of days later.
Check the net -- it was in today's headlines.
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blueunicorn
11:54 AM on 08/17/2012
Lysistrata! We will refrain from our sexual urges, and you men can have each other!

Well, perhaps that's not practical, but I do go with sterilizing men who help create children and then don't support them. That's a great idea!

And as for whether or not you think I'd be qualified to decide on an abortion, hell, you can't even spell. As for you paying for an abortion, I'm sure you'd be happier paying for the foundling homes that will need to be in existence to house all the babies that teenage girls can't support. Being as the boys who impregnate them won't be supporting them.

And then the Republicans can put through workhouse laws that will use the foundlings for unpaid/cheap labor for their sweatshops right here in the USA.
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Charles E Miller
Tro// Proof
12:57 PM on 08/13/2012
Inexplicably the Republicans, now Tea Party Pod People, have moved across the states to deny a woman her right to choose, not only in terms of pregnancy, but in contraception and preventative healthcare. These chauvinist goons have laid claim to your uterus and are attempting to ensure their selected outcome for you ovaries. It is indeed a claim to women as property of men-in-power. I am hopeful that many Republican women will secretly vote Obama/Biden when the curtain is closed.
12:47 PM on 08/13/2012
Great piece, Gina! I still can't believe that in 2012 women are still having to fight for the right to make decisions about our own bodies. It's disgraceful really and I'm not going to give my vote to any candidate, male or female, who thinks my body and reproductive rights are suitable topics for debates. I sincerely hope other women do the same!
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Theo16610
mea navis aëricumbens anguillis abundat
07:19 PM on 08/13/2012
JP, When did the local pharmacy stop selling rubbers and the pill near you?
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blueunicorn
11:55 AM on 08/17/2012
If Ryan has his way, that will be coming soon.
ael443
Fairness: treat capital gains like earned income
12:33 PM on 08/13/2012
Same old same old: when Reagan ran for President, I coined the "Republican" motto "out of our pockets and into our pants." Hasn't changed.
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Pantsy
12:09 PM on 08/13/2012
Surely these guys are smart enough to smell hypocrisy when it's so close to them? When they're not only walking in it but spreading it?

i think its like when a smoker doesnt smell the smoke anymore. but once they stop, they can. seems quiting hypocrisy is harder than quiting smoking.
12:03 PM on 08/13/2012
This is more than "Choices are not left up to individual women but must be decided by the government." With these two men, a Mormon and a Catholic, it's based on their definition of their God's will. They are both basically 'fundamentalists' to their faiths. And both of these religions are known for their oppressive attitudes toward women. I have friends in both of these religions and they don't expect me to live by their tenets and I don't want to live by them either. And we're all fairly happy with this. But this situation... This goes beyond politics. This is coming down to maitinaining the Separation of Church and State. If I were conspiracy theorist, I'd think the Repulican Party and the Religious leaders were in cahoots to keep 'us' in 'control.' And that's how I'm beginning to feel - it's 'them' and 'us;' a concept I thought I'd never feel here.
11:52 AM on 08/13/2012
Keep Big Government's hands out of our wombs and away from our Social Security and Medicare. Don't let them take it away!
01:23 PM on 08/13/2012
Thanks for spelling out this glaring hypocrisy so clearly, Gina. I too was astonished to see that Ryan had the nerve to use the word "choice" anywhere in his rhetoric! Let's hope the Democrats are brave enough to call attention to this slight "loophole" in the anti-government stance. The government, in their view, can't control anything EXCEPT a woman's body. If the Democrats, however, are afraid to broach the controversial subject of choice, they will be missing an enormous opportunity. I'm rooting for boldness and bravery to triumph over the Republican bravado and bullying.
11:26 AM on 08/13/2012
The great majority of us thinking American women are not single-issue voters. And only the farthest right of Republican, Libertarian and [a handful of] Democrats are hardcore pro-lifers---most are moderate on the issue. The real issue this election cycle are jobs and a future for an America that is not broke! I can take care of my own reproductive matters---candidates with a real economic plan to stop the spending and end deficit spending get my vote.
12:27 PM on 08/13/2012
" I can take care of my own reproductive matters"

Not if the government takes the decisions out of your hands.

I would much rather loose a little more of my money than all of my rights. One can always adjust your employment or leisure activities to make up for a little higher taxes, but only if you can make those choices on your own based on what is best for you and your family. What you feel is best may not be the same thing the government feels is best.

Though now a days there is no fiscal difference between the two main parties. Only what they prefer to spend it on. Employing people here, refurbishing the roads and bridges I drive on is vastly more important to me than invading some foreign country so we can build bridges and roads for their citizens.
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12:48 PM on 08/13/2012
" I can take care of my own reproductive matters"

Not if the GOTP gets their way! These are scary people - they mean it when they say they'll overturn Roe v. Wade and shut down Planned Parenthood, among other things. Yes, the real issue is jobs and the economy, but we can't afford to push women's issues to the back burner, hoping the problems will all shake out. Read what both Romney and Ryan have to say, and everyone who works for them and believes in their platform. Open your eyes - THEY JUST DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU!