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Were the First Christians Rich or Poor?

Posted: 09/18/11 02:00 PM ET

In an earlier post I reflected on how the earliest groups of Christians built community and stayed in touch with one another despite the challenges of communication in the ancient world. In this post I will address the diversity we encounter in those earliest churches.

Obviously, the "first" Christians were the Jews who had known Jesus personally and those who joined the movement on the basis of their testimony. Unfortunately, we know precious little about those first Palestinian Christians. As a result, this post involves those earliest churches that formed in prominent cities around the eastern Mediterranean. These cities provided hubs for travel and new ideas. Many contained decent-sized Jewish communities. Those factors proved helpful to the Jesus movement's expansion.

Though bound by common languages and by Roman imperial commerce and culture, these cities varied in significant ways, as did the churches. We do not know how the great church in Rome began, but our best evidence suggests that the church started among Jews and eventually was dominated by Gentiles. Paul's letter to the Romans implies that several churches gathered in various homes throughout the city. On the other hand, Paul's first epistle to Thessalonica reflects an entirely Gentile congregation. Perhaps his letters to Corinth do as well. Relationships between Jewish and Gentile followers of Jesus pose a significant challenge in some of Paul's letters, but not in others.

People used to assume that Christianity flourished only among the poor. First Corinthians 1:26 -- "not many among you were wise according to the flesh, not many powerful, not many well-born" -- still influences how many imagine the first Christians. However, Paul's words actually describe the population in general, in which not many did enjoy education, wealth, power, or status. Economic historians still debate just how many people lived in poverty in the ancient world and what such poverty entailed. The ancient Mediterranean included very few people who were fabulously rich, others who depended upon those wealthy persons, some relatively prosperous merchants and tradespersons, and masses of people who lived just above or below subsistence level. Slaves also constituted a significant portion of the population, perhaps between one-third to one-half the population of some major cities.

Our primary sources suggest that the early churches included just that sort of mix. For example, in 1 Corinthians 11:17-22 Paul describes church gatherings in Corinth. Some eat and get drunk while others go away hungry. Paul's contempt burns against the prosperous members of the church: "Do you not have houses in which to eat and drink? Or do you despise the church of God and shame those who have nothing?" The epistle of James likewise addresses tensions between rich and poor Christians (2:1-9). Meanwhile, the book of Revelation describes the church in Smyrna as poor (2:9) but the church in Laodicea as rich (3:17-18). Indeed, later Christian apocalypses such as the Shepherd of Hermas, the Apocalypse of Peter, and the Ascension of Isaiah complain against wealthy believers who do not care for the poor in their midst.

Paul's letters also address both slaves and slaveholders. His epistle to Philemon apparently encourages a slaveholder to accept his (runaway?) slave Onesimus with kindness. Interpreters continue to debate whether or not Paul is calling Philemon to grant Onesimus his freedom. (We do know that some later Christian communities did purchase the freedom of slaves.) And in 1 Corinthians 7:21-24 Paul advises slaves to grab their freedom if they can get it. (Pay attention to how various translations handle 1 Corinthians 7:21!)

The churches in Paul's circle of influence almost surely included some persons of means. For one thing, Paul depends upon "patrons" like Phoebe (Romans 16:1) and potential donors in Rome to send him along in his journeys. And what about Chloe, who had "people" who could communicate with Paul on her behalf (1 Corinthians 1:11), or Erastus, the city treasurer of Corinth (Romans 16:23)? We also find that some Christians resented not being invited to support Paul (see 1 Corinthians 9), suggesting that they could afford to make contributions. Paul's well-known attempts to raise funds for poor believers in Jerusalem also suggest disposable income among some Christian communities. Surely the churches included persons of varying means.

An early church meeting must have been a wild scene. Many churches included Jews and Gentiles who were figuring out how to build community together. Almost all churches included masters and their own slaves, the rich and the destitute, tradespersons and menial laborers. We ought not romanticize the movement, as if sunshine and lollipops attended their every gathering. Indeed, the signs of conflict leap off the pages of various ancient documents. Nevertheless, the movement appealed to and gathered an extraordinarily wide range of people.

In a third and final post I'll explore the contributions of women to the earliest churches.

 
 
 

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In an earlier post I reflected on how the earliest groups of Christians built community and stayed in touch with one another despite the challenges of communication in the ancient world. In this post ...
In an earlier post I reflected on how the earliest groups of Christians built community and stayed in touch with one another despite the challenges of communication in the ancient world. In this post ...
 
 
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indiecratublican
I am what I am.
08:25 PM on 09/23/2011
This article is more in line with what I think of when I think of the so-called "first Christians". Of course, poverty was upheld and most converts weren't wealthy, but there was reasonably a few that may have had money before embracing holy (or Christian) religion. When Christianity became the IN-thing in Rome and the Catholic church came about- that's when Christian wealth became more acceptable and even promoted. I, of course, don't really view those who aren't mentioned in the scriptures as Church fathers or authorities so I don't follow or accept their literature as doctrine. And today, I continue to view poverty- or more specifically, frugal and sustainable living as a positive and necessary thing for spiritual growth and happiness. Use what you need. Recycle. Enjoy luxuries in moderation. And remember: Eat to live or live to eat. And drink your water from the hot water side. - Principles to live by. : )
05:59 PM on 09/22/2011
The earliest Christians belonged to a variety of religions including the mystery religions of the Mediterranean and Egypt. They were Gnostic as can be seen when one reads the Dead Sea Scrolls, and depending on who you receive your information from and who that person is being funded by, you get two different answers. Many scholars date the Gospel of Thomas before any of the Gospels found in the New Testament. Which would mean Christianity is originally a Gnostic Religion, and was eventually changed into a literalist religion by various people who had Political objectives.

Jesus represents the constellation or zodiac sign of Pisces. When one understands that the bible is a metaphor, not literal truth, then they can begin to understand the bible in the way that it was originally written.

Here are some good resources

http://thedivineeye.net/the-eye/awakening-of-aquarius-the-new-christianity

http://www.christianism.com/

http://www.crystalinks.com
01:06 PM on 09/22/2011
The early Christian church would have been very interesting to say the least. I agree with the author that romanticizing it is wrong. One thing is certain: people are people. whether it be 100AD or 2011. It would have been awesome to had been there in the early church & witness all that happened. The Pentecost in Acts chapter 2 would have been especially interesting to have witnessed. Only a true eye witness to that particular event could put the 'speaking in tongues" issue to rest once & for all. Were they really speaking in an unknown language, or common languages?
10:53 PM on 09/21/2011
The first Christians were Jews of course. The only difference is that Jews at the time looked down on others and other faiths as they were God's chosen people and did not readily encourage converts, while Christianity made statements promoting forgiveness and actively encouraged converts. The schism between Christianity and Judaism occurred after his death.
TomMartin
Freedom and equality.
06:56 AM on 09/23/2011
Christianity at first did not encourage gentile converts either. According to the book of Acts the change happened when Peter saw the vision with the unclean animals.
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10:30 AM on 09/23/2011
Not Christianity but Paul is the one that starts encouraging gentiles as he drops some of the Jewish rules and traditions as requirements to be members of the new cult, for instants circumcision eating practices and so on.
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deegeescross2
02:20 PM on 09/21/2011
Well, Jesus taught Peter to cast his net on the right side of the ship. When Peter followed divine instruction he pulled in a catch of fish so big he had to call for help from other fishermen to pull it in.After Christs resurrection the new church had all things in common and those who had assets sold them and the church community lived off the profits.
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alterego55
Flash your citations or leave!
07:36 PM on 09/21/2011
Wow, and I paid $200 for my sonar based fish finder.
05:15 PM on 09/20/2011
Jesus did not preach to go save the world and condemn all who do not agree. He preached about love. His parables are about how God will save all mankind. The lost sheep, coin etc.. are not about a lonely christian that left a church. it is about how God will, in time, save all humanity. that is why that site iAMtiredofCHURCH . com makes sense. Church goers call jesus the savior of the world but believe he will save a few. The first christians we lovers of people.
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deegeescross2
02:26 PM on 09/21/2011
Hate to bust your twisted ballon but Jesus never said any such thing. Broad is the way that leads to destruction and many there be that find it. Straight is the gate that leads to life and few there be that find it. Aint no wiggle room for righteousness. Jesus is the only way. Yes. Because of His great love, He made the provision for who so ever will to receive the gift of salvation. But He said: Now, if you love me, you will keep my commandments." You got to trust and obey if you want to live with Jesus! It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than a for arich man make it in.
04:24 PM on 09/21/2011
It will be tough to enter into the following age, you are correct. but after that age comes the great white throne judgement. judgement means make correct. He will do just that, make man correct. i am sure you believe this scripture: 1Cr 15:22 For as in Adam all die,(but do you believe this half) even so in Christ shall all be made alive. i dont think you believe the second half. how about 1Cr 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. or 1Cr 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all. But you probably think that Jesus will reign forever right? sorry to bust your balloon but he will not reign forever. Remember that paul told timothy to teach that jesus is the savior of all men especially those who believe. Anyway, you will now probably say how about hell? how about it, hell is the place of the dead, or sheol, or gehenna fire, or tartarus, make sure you clarify which hell you speak. It is hard for man to accept that God is love.
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alterego55
Flash your citations or leave!
07:35 PM on 09/21/2011
Fairy tales and mythology.
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02:39 PM on 09/20/2011
To compare Our Mother Eve with Almighty God, Who came down to dwell in the flesh and give His life for our sins, is appallingly wrong-headed to say the least. Especially seeing that without Eve there would not have been any sin and death and a dire need for a Saviour in the first place. A world plunged into wickedness and corruption, and, as we are just now witnessing, the very destruction of the earth itself, all this, we owe to Eve in her disobedience to God, not to mention the authority given to the man over his wife, as before this horrendous fall, there simply was not such distinction between this pair in the Garden: in matter of fact, there is not the subjugation of women to men, as we see in man's rule over the animal kingdom. Yes, women do give up a lot to become a wife and mother, but we have our mother Eve to thank for that, not the man Adam, or God, for that matter.
Why?
Because, if you do not think that there was a very profound change in Eve after she fell, so drastic a change that she must be under subjection lest she destroy the wold world, then you haven't been reading your Bible.
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deegeescross2
02:31 PM on 09/21/2011
Eve was tricked. Adam willfully disobeyed. Since when is outright deviance a virtue an a mistake a profound reason for submission?
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12:14 PM on 09/20/2011
...We do not know how the great church in Rome began, but our best evidence suggests that the church started among Jews and eventually was dominated by Gentiles...
As Rome was the seat of the occupying power oppressing Judea and all other Jewish populated regions, there was not a large community of Jewish there freely. So indeed the original churches in Rome were populated by gentile. As for the Roman Church, it was the split of the larger early Christian Church, when the conflicts between an infusion of local practices began to take hold. It actually was a three way split, Roman, Greek, and then what was left of the Christian, or Christ followers. to wit came the Roman Catholic, the Greek Orthodox powerhouses.
06:03 PM on 09/19/2011
Maybe it is or was never about Christians before the first Christian churches came into being not till after years or more 200 years etc  was Moses a Christian? Abraham? Noah? Job? Issiah? etc all prophets of God? Was a different belief system practices their faith in God. But does not mean a sound religious faith, did not exist because it was not called Christian, does it?. What was Jesus living, practicing going by, was it not the religion of the OT already existed and lasted itself thousands of years? All the more interesting when one says not a shred of evidence of any grassroots.

Maybe Jesus was reteaching the Laws that were slowly being twist spin and lost? Exactly what God forewarns all not to do, take on the man made rituals practices of other Nations around them?    May be Jesus was reteaching what was sadly being lost,? Maybe Jesus his preaching  to all to return to the religion of his forefathers, which Jesus being Jewish continue to fully obey and observe ? Maybe Jesus did not come at all to start a new religion, but return to the faith and belief system practices of Abraham, and all the faith who followed after. Maybe Jesus whole message was to reteach that which was slowly beginning to replace what God sent forth right in the beginning?  They did not call themselves Christians did they, why one will never find any existence of Christians.Who they today what to even be called Christians or would they even accept it? Just asking
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04:03 AM on 09/20/2011
Well said sunshine14­, as to the best questions I've ever read since coming onto this blog, and as to your well-thoug­ht out comments!
All that is missing is in watching carefully how Paul..with a tone almost boardering on comtempt..­uses the phrases "weak and beggarly".­.."Element­al principles of the world" in asserting that ALL Rituals, whether they be Pagan or Jewish, which up to that point in History, such often lawful practices as animal sacrifices offered in a temple, were acting or serving as a substitute to make contact with the Living God, as there was no other means to do so.

But, now with Jesus having given His life as an atonement for our sins, a "New and Living way" had been provided by the graciousne­ss of the Father, that we may "come boldly to the throne of God" and to directly make contact with God through the Holy Spirit..wi­thin our own spirits!!

That all rituals Laws of Judaism has been cast aside, for this direct contact with the Father through Christ, is not only the whole thrust of the Pauline Epistles, but they constitute every argument Paul mounts against the Judaisers: that there is no middle wall of petition, which is now standing between us the believers in Christ, and God the Father.
This free and untrameled access to God the Father, is the very definition of Christiani­ty!
12:01 PM on 09/20/2011
To you ladies on the religious side of the fence. Even though the male sex is the chief concern of the Bible and the female being TOTALLY subordinate to them, with few exceptions, if it wasn't for women, there would be no Church. At least one woman, who has as EQUAL an influence on Christianity as Jesus, For the foundation of the Church is based on atonement, and because of atonement- if it wasn't for EVE, there would be NO Christian religion! Instead of being condemned, the Church should have enshrined Her alongside the Saints. ( Think about it. No EVE no Church)
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YannosB
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12:23 PM on 09/20/2011
very, very well put.
Christian is defined as Christ follower, or imitator of Christ .. and that is how the term was used.
Christ came not to abolish, but to fulfill every commandment, every law which man could not, would not bring himself to obey. So, then by following Christs lead, accepting His complete fulfillment in our stead... we may then go to the Creator, the Father, the I AM. And this is no longer done via ritualistic event, through human proxy as it once was in the old Law... you so correctly identify that it is via Christ, and then with the Great Teacher, The Holy Spirit; alive with in our own beings, communicating with our own spirit that we may know and follow the True Living Word... Jesus Christ.
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05:03 PM on 09/19/2011
"Unfortunately, we know precious little about those first Palestinian Christians."

Precious little? How about absolutely NOTHING. That's right NOTHING.

Do you know why? Because there isn't a single shred of evidence of any "grassroots" Christian "church" in existence.

Do the research, for hundreds of years Historians and biblical scholars have studied every single scroll, book, or scrap of writing from the four middle eastern provinces of the Roman Empire and there isn't a single corroborating piece of real historical writing that confirms the existence of Christians before about 220 CE. For the mentally challenged that is almost 200 years after the crucifixion, assuming that even happened.

You owe it to yourself to not take anyone's word for this kind of nonsense, no matter the authority that they claim to have on such matters.
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syntax facit saltum
We do not live in a 2 story universe
05:46 PM on 09/19/2011
This is completely untrue. For starters, try the writing of Pliny the Younger.
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gregory57
Micro-bio, was one of my favorite classes.
05:56 PM on 09/19/2011
And after you have looked up Pliny the Younger look for:
Lucian of Samosata
The Christians . . . worship a man to this day--the distinguished personage who introduced their novel rites, and was crucified on that account. . . . [It] was impressed on them by their original lawgiver that they are all brothers, from the moment that they are converted, and deny the gods of Greece, and worship the crucified sage, and live after his laws.{27}

The Babylonian Talmud
On the eve of the Passover Yeshu was hanged. For forty days before the execution took place, a herald . . . cried, "He is going forth to be stoned because he has practiced sorcery and enticed Israel to apostasy."{21}

Josephus
About this time there lived Jesus, a wise man, if indeed one ought to call him a man. For he . . . wrought surprising feats. . . . He was the Christ. When Pilate . . .condemned him to be crucified, those who had . . . come to love him did not give up their affection for him. On the third day he appeared . . . restored to life. . . . And the tribe of Christians . . . has . . . not disappeared.{17}
jimbo57
ni dieu ni maitre
07:46 PM on 09/21/2011
Sorry. The Josephus quote is a Byzantine forgery. Flavius Josephus, while a Hellenizer, WAS a practising Jew. This "quote", which would have been blasphemy for any believing Jew, is probably the work of a copyist in a Greek Orthodox monastery irked by the ABSENCE of a historical Jesus in Josephus's account of the decades leading up to the Jewish rebellion and subsequent fall of Jerusalem.

That Josephus WOULDN'T mention Jesus is not, in itself, surprising. There were half a dozen known "Messiahs" wandering Palestine in the early 1st century. Jesus himself, his life and death, and the post-crucifixion "movement" would have been obscure and known to relatively few people at the time Josephus wrote "The Jewish Wars"
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gsj612
04:49 PM on 09/19/2011
YAY GREG!!! See you in the morning in class!!!!
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04:41 PM on 09/19/2011
Interesting to note how similar early Church gatherings were to today's Catholic Mass. Scripture readings, kiss of peace, Eucharist.... Veritas.
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just a voice here
Just because...
03:19 PM on 09/19/2011
Unfortunately, we know precious little about those first Palestinian Christians.

I don't ever recall reading about Palestinian Christians in the Bible.
03:24 PM on 09/19/2011
That is because they didn't need to label themselves as such because that was automatically assumed. In fact, they didn't call themselves Christians" at first either (that designation was given to them later on). In the beginning, they were known as, "people of the way."
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just a voice here
Just because...
02:46 AM on 09/21/2011
It was not until the Romans crushed the second Jewish revolt against Rome in 135 A.D. under Bar Kochba that Emperor Hadrian applied the term Palestine to the Land of Israel. Read your history book. There's NO palestinians in the Bible!
05:01 PM on 09/19/2011
Read Genesis to chapter 37 Abram renamed Abraham call and Migration in Holy Bible. Abraham finally settles in what is now called Israel lives there he and his wife die there and are buried there in Mamre between Hebron and Bethlehem Jerusalem even Jacob is in Bethel also later which is aboe Jerusalem. But Abraham is a alien there living in Israel and even says so himself read slowly follow maps given in Bible. His descendants children leave and will return in 4th time span, but Abraham does not leave Israel dies there. Ishamel and Issac are born there and Ishamel get circumized with his father Abraham first when he was 13 years old. Issac gets done 8 days later after birth, interesting. Palestinian are mention also through out meeting with Abraham in the journey and life of Abraham. Interesting.
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Just because...
02:37 AM on 09/21/2011
Sunshine...I KNOW you never read the Bible. Never, ever in the Bible is the word Palestinian used! You should try reading Genesis. If you honestly believe you're right, then please show me a Bible chapter and verse. I dare you to!
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05:07 AM on 09/21/2011
How can it be? When a Roman Emperor changed the name of the region in 135 AD to Syria Paleastinea.
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02:55 PM on 09/19/2011
The importance of the first christians cannot be determined by wealth or its lack. Such an emphasis is a current extension from the focus on money by all the churches that nickel & dime the congregation relentlessly.
This recap only reveals that the focus on money by the Church has a long history that is alive and well in the third millennium.
06:18 PM on 09/19/2011
Would Jesus call himself a Christian today? Would Jesus accept the Christian Religion and changed this and that?  Did Jesus come to start a new religion? Or was Jesus sent to give the message Word of God that was slowly being replaced with other believe systems from other Nations around them, which all were told once they entered the Promise Land not to do, or would receive the Law of Curses not the Laws of Blessings instead?  Starting to take on man made traditions God did not ask for? Jesus was Jewish, born Jewish, to Jewish Parents and raised Jewish and fully observed all Jewish Laws, celebrated all Jewish Feast Days in obedience and took all sayings, from OT of a believe system from his forefathers that lasted for over 4,000 years did he not? Like Jesus said I did not come to change not 1 tittle of the Laws of Moses. And Jesus always ask what did Issiah say, what did Abraham say, what Jesus referring to what took place with Noah, will also take place in the end, Jesus speaks of Jonah, the Holy prophets the prophecies etc. So it is a interesting question did Jesus come to start a new religion or bring forth the promises and prophecies of the religious belief of his forefathers religion and practices etc. They did not call themselves Christians did they? So do not expect to find any existence of it then, right? For one will not find it. Interesting
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09:41 PM on 09/19/2011
I dont think Jesus called himsekf King of the Jews
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12:56 AM on 09/20/2011
During Christ's ministry on earth, he taught people much about God. His teachings were aimed at reaching the hearts of his listeners so that they might be motivated to worship God. Among the best-known examples of his teachings are those found in what is known as the Sermon on the Mount (Matthew, chapters 5-7; Luke, chapter 6). Christ stressed principles instead of detailed commandments & laws. (Matthew 5:27, 28; Matthew 5:21, 22).

Love was the main theme of Christ’s teachings. He knew that all of God’s requirements could be summed up in the two greatest commandments, & he therefore said: “‘You must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart & with your whole soul & with your whole mind.’ This is the greatest & first commandment. The second, like it, is this, ‘You must love your neighbor as yourself.’ (Matthew 22:37-40) “All things, therefore, that you want men to do to you, you also must likewise do to them; this, in fact, is what the Law & the Prophets mean.” (Matthew 7:12) Christ excelled in teaching the way of love. Both by word & by deed, he acquainted others with the love that is shown by self-sacrifice.

Christ’s teachings were not in opposition to the Torah. He said: “Do not think I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I came, not to destroy, but to fulfill.” (Matthew 5:17) Not only did he fulfill the letter of the Law but he also fulfilled the spirit behind it.
07:03 PM on 09/19/2011
Did Jesus come to start a new religion? Sure did not sound like it does it? Jesus called himself the Way, the truth and the Light in darkness, what he was sent to do maybe?. Did Jesus, who preached about God, and referred always to His forefathers, sayings, prophecies, etc what was written in the OT, came to restore, reteach, what was sadly being lost, to get all back on the straight road?
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05:56 PM on 09/23/2011
sunshine14.please take a read of the scripture in Acts 11:26. It shows clearly that the Jesus' disciples were first called Christians by God's will in Antioch sometime around 44CE. Later in Acts 26:28 Agrippa told Paul “In a short time you would persuade me to become a Christian. Jesus was a Jew and was the only one that fulfilled the Mosaic Law. However Jesus' teachings were based on the "spirit" of the Law and not to restore the Law itself. On several occasions he reprimanded the Pharisees for sticking to the letter of the Law and ignoring the much weightier matters such as love, forgiveness and mercy. A new covenant was instituted by Christ's blood at his death which replaced the Mosaic Law. This was spoken of earlier by the prophet Jeremiah who stated, " But of the new covenant, Jehovah said: “I will put my law within them, and in their heart I shall write it.” (Jeremiah 31:31-34). Thus 1 Corinthians 9:21 speaks about the "law of Christ" which teaches that the Messiah came, paid the ransom price with his life, and opened the way for us to be freed from sin and death through God's undeserved kindness. Hence, the "law of Christ" which true christianity adheres to is far more superior to the Mosaic Law that his forefathers followed.
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02:07 PM on 09/19/2011
Without Jesus, . . the early Church was without its heart. The disciples did not really understand much of his real message of love and service. They could, however, be inspired by Him when He was with them.With Him gone, they were left to their memories which were flawed and to their own understandings . . which were filtered through their heritage of rules and regulations . . .They literally cast Mary Magdalene aside and she was the disciple Jesus loved the most and she understood his message . . .that it required a change in consciousness . . not just actions disguising poor motives.
So, the Church formed around the disciples who went out and preached according to what they thought they knew . . Peter was a hot head who carried a lot of guilt but covered it up by performing good works . .a theme which resonates to this day . . .
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09:53 PM on 09/19/2011
The "Church" was a creation of Paul, who never met Jesus. I doubt Jesus would have approved of the "Church" Paul created and dictated to. I am even more sure that Jesus would have nothing to do with the megachurches that dominate the Catholic and Protestant dominantions of today. He would probably look upon them as he did the money changers in the temple.
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We do not live in a 2 story universe
03:05 AM on 09/20/2011
The Church started at Pentecost before Paul. And Paul met the resurrected Christ.