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Posted: March 20, 2009 03:00 PM

Oklahoma Legislature Investigates Richard Dawkins' Free Speech

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Well, it's official: Oklahoma's state legislature is investigating the University of Oklahoma for hosting a speech by evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins.

As I noted in a post over the weekend at Dawkins' website, the legislature first considered two resolutions condemning both Dawkins and the theory of evolution as "an unproven and unpopular theory." (I highly recommend reading both of the proposed resolutions.) Despite their efforts, the legislature failed to prevent Dawkins from speaking on March 6 to an audience of thousands at the University of Oklahoma.

Last week, however, I received multiple reports that the legislature was now investigating the speech, and I wrote the University of Oklahoma President David Boren directly asking to know if this was true.

Sure enough, I just received confirmation today in a letter from the Open Records Office at the University of Oklahoma. The letter confirms that on the day of Dawkins' speech, Oklahoma State Representative Rebecca Hamilton requested substantial information relating to the speech from Vice President for Governmental Relations Danny Hilliard. Representative Hamilton's exhaustive request included demands for all e-mails and correspondence relating to the speech; a list of all money paid to Dawkins and the entities, public or private, responsible for this funding; and the total cost to the university, including, among other things, security fees, advertising, and even "faculty time spent promoting this event."

Rick Farmer, the director of committee staff for the Oklahoma House of Representatives, also wrote the University on March 12, requesting confirmation that Dawkins had indeed waived all compensation for the speech.

Now some of you--though I hope not too many--may wonder: "What's wrong with the legislature investigating a speech by a famous evolutionary biologist at a public university?" Well, a lot of things, actually. As I wrote in my post on Dawkins' website:

If this investigation is indeed taking place, what the state legislature needs to understand is that in court cases dating back to the days of the House Committee on Un-American Activities, even investigating clearly protected speech on the basis of its viewpoint violates the First Amendment.

Think about it: If every time a student or faculty member invited, say, Rick Warren to speak on campus, they knew they would be subjected to a thorough and time-consuming investigation by state officials, you can all but guarantee that schools across the country would think twice before inviting Rick Warren. This would be a great way for state legislatures to chill speech they dislike without ever having to find the speaker guilty of a single thing. Talk about your un-American activities.

Given the fact the legislature clearly is concerned with nothing other than Dawkins' viewpoint, such an investigation is improper and should end immediately.

Now that we know this investigation is going on, many questions still need to be answered: What does the state legislature plan to do with this information? Does this mean that any time Richard Dawkins or other evolutionary scientists give speeches about evolution in Oklahoma, they too will be investigated? And perhaps most importantly: Doesn't the Oklahoma legislature have anything better to do?


I think I know the answer to the last question, but I think it's time the Oklahoma Legislature answered the first two. Stay tuned.

 
 

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Well, it's official: Oklahoma's state legislature is investigating the University of Oklahoma for hosting a speech by evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins. As I noted in a post over the weekend ...
Well, it's official: Oklahoma's state legislature is investigating the University of Oklahoma for hosting a speech by evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins. As I noted in a post over the weekend ...
 
 
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06:55 PM on 03/31/2009
My husband is a 20 year, tenured Physics Professor at O.U. We moved to Ok. 20 years ago from Chicago.
The specific talk Dawkins gave was so popular, you couldn't get near the building! We have a very wide diversity in the University community, but outside.....OMG!! In spite of all the Obama bumper stickers seen here in Norman, the State showed voting red. We have had a legislator who decided THE TIN DRUM was pornographic ( a few years back) and actually had police raid private residences for copies of such! Our representation in the Senate don't acknowledge global warming, etc. It is like being in a bad time-warp.
This doesn't surprise me given the past record, but I can tell you that we are hoping Dawkins will return so those of us that couldn't get in because of the overwhelming response, will have another opportunity to hear him. This Bible Belt mentality is way over the top!!
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01:41 AM on 03/26/2009
Oklahoma is still a state?
01:35 PM on 03/23/2009
A few years ago my dad asked me if I was happy we moved away from Oklahoma when I was a toddler. I told him "yes." I'm a lesbian.... 'nuff said.

However...one of my favorite authors, who also happens to include gay and lesbian characters positively in her books, lives in Oklahoma -- Mercedes Lackey. Go figure!
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scotsense
Been there, done that, got a kid!
12:44 PM on 03/23/2009
nothing would make me happier than to see this type of nonsense backfire
12:29 PM on 03/23/2009
When Oklahoma was in a Depression a few years back, what saved their economic butt was religion. Tulsa became to evangelical religion what Hollywood is to movies. Like Network Marketing they meet weekly to keep up the prosperity. That's all it's about. Dawkins is shooting at their bottom line. Remember this is the state that gave us Oral Roberts University and many of the law graduates that Republicans revere. The state is now solidly in the American conservative column because conservatism and conservative religion has paid for Oklahoma and lifted them out of the depression that they had when no one else cared or was watching. This problem goes all the way back to the Dust Bowl when America watched as so many of us couldn't breath and our children died from silicosis. Oklahoma regularly sends its liberals out to be leaders in the rest of the country but they keep the conservatives at home and close to their hearts. The problem is that they are so damn lovable. Like Coburn and Inhofe. Have you ever seen two more lovable bigots in your life? Even Obama hugs Coburn and Coburn gave Burris a big hug as well. Hugs all around.
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12:14 PM on 03/23/2009
If someone were investigating a university for allowing Rick Warren to speak, I would be upset. But I don't really expect any better from Republican state legislators.
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12:06 PM on 03/23/2009
Hey there readers. I wrote the House of Representatives of the State of Oklahoma this morning and just blogged about it. Check it out: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/greg-lukianoff/oklahoma-legislature-do-y_b_178022.html
11:12 AM on 03/23/2009
I'm an Okie. We're not all morons. Woody Guthrie and Will Rogers were Okies. In fact, the state has always been majority democratic, but less so now.
Every county in the state went for McCain. I think it's the only state that did. You can't get Air America here.
Everyone bitches about congress, but they keep re-electing Inhofe, because there's still some oil in the ground here, and a lot of gas.
There are also a high percentage of heretical end-timers, whose disregard for creation other than stem cells dovetails nicely with the short-sighted religion of unregulated capitalism. Madison warned us about capitalism corrupting democratic rule.
Lots of good music has some out of here though: art thrives in adversity, ha.
Believe it or not, I know some Indian Republicans! Go figure!
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02:21 PM on 03/23/2009
No, we're not all morons. We just regularly elect a bunch and send them to DC and 23rd Street on our behalf and as a result get painted with the broad "backwater Hatfield vs McCoy" stereotype brush.

Ihoffe's a laughable disgrace. Coburn was featured on Comedy Central "Daily Show with Jon Stewart in a video clip that showed him working a crossword puzzle during Supreme Court Justice Roberts' confirmation hearings. Doofus. He's an extremist on many scores, but he did partner a couple years back with then-Senator Obama to craft an important piece of legislation on spending transparency and almost single-handedly spearheaded the effort to get the infamous "Bridge to Nowhere" killed. But alas, there's the video on Jon Stewart's Comedy Central

I suppose any sitting Senator or Representative has the potential and does disappoint their constituents or embarrass them now and then (e.g.: Barney Frank and Chris Dodd)

This latest embarassment driven by our stunningly narrow-minded legislature is just one more opportunity for people to heap insult on our state once again. So what? Nobody's state legislature is immune from bonehead attacks. Stuff happens. I just hope we get as much exposure when this stupid maneuver is sqaushed.

And btw - I listen to Air American all day through their live internet feed. Good stuff.
skmbho
A blue bird in a red state
10:57 AM on 03/23/2009
As a third generation, liberal Oklahoman, I can tell you that while we are in the minority here, once again the media is spotlighting the negative and sensational. Oklahoma is not a "third world country" It is just a red state filled with right-wing religious zealots who still buy into the propaganda perpetuated over the previous ten years. Because of the presence of Oil and Natural Gas, Oklahoma is not yet feeling the impact of the national ecomony, so these "leaders" are not facing the same scrutiny felt by other red state leaders. We have a democratic govenor and David Boren, the president of the University of Oklahoma is a world leader who has repeatedly brought his acquaintances, such as Mr. Dawkins and others who would be considered controversial to those on the left, to speak at the university, so that the students there can be exposed to a wide range of ideas to expand their minds. THAT is what an advanced education is supposed to provide. Hence the reason the right is so opposed education. "When you know better, you do better".
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10:48 AM on 03/23/2009
Alas, the real reason the Joad's packed up and headed to California! Who could blame them?
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raptor
02:51 AM on 03/23/2009
Probably the only things up to date in Oklahoma are the artillery manuals at Fort Sill, and I'm not sure about them either.
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MajorKong
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10:40 PM on 03/22/2009
If you go to Oklahoma be sure to set your watch back 150 years.
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yellowdoggie
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09:01 AM on 03/24/2009
I beg to differ. I live in Oklahoma. Don't bother to bring a watch. Bring your sundial.
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Hirnlego
07:43 PM on 03/22/2009
Bill in Texas would allow creationists to grant Masters of Science degrees
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Bill_in_Texas_would_allow_creationists_0321.html
05:31 PM on 03/22/2009
"an unproven and unpopular theory"

__________

That the theory of evolution has enormous support in fact and deductive reasoning is a matter of record - a record that grows in depth and quantity almost daily. The claim of "unproven" can only be justified in the minds of those who no next to nothing about the theory. As to the claim it is "unpopular", popularity has little to nothing to do with objective science. Scientific inquiry searches for what is true versus what is not true, regardless of the popularity of such truth or its potential for popularity. I believe we'd all rather not know that one day a planetary calamity will occur caused by asteroid, volcano, earthquake, viral pandemic, enormous solar flare or what have you, however, that such threats do exist is a scientific fact. Their truth does not depend on popularity nor can lack of popularity put an end to the threats.

I dare say, if public authorities in Oklahoma wish to limit education at state universities to what is both thoroughly proven and popular, and as Professor Dawkins pointed out during his speech, one would have to throw out the theory of gravity and begin teaching the stork theory of reproduction. The standards of "proven" and "popular" will reduce education in Oklahoma to the mere ludicrous and reflective of the ludicrous nature of Oklahoma politics.
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03:16 PM on 03/22/2009
My X Father - n -law was a Baptist preacher in Oklahoma. Dinosaur bones were found on his property. He said Satan put them there and that there has never been dinosaurs. The bones are planted by Satan to derail Christianity.

This is the kind of people you are dealing with in Oklahoma.
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09:32 PM on 03/22/2009
Well your ex FIL is just plain wrong! Sarah Palin says that people used to ride around on them!
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12:13 PM on 03/23/2009
Your ex father in law is clearly incorrect. The Creation Museum in Kentucky has displays showing children playing with happy, docile dinosaurs, who along with all other animals were vegetarians at the time. Apparently it was man's sinful ways that somehow caused dinos, wolves, tigers, etc. to become carnivorous.

I am not making this up.