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Greg Palast

Greg Palast

Posted: August 12, 2009 10:53 PM

Obama on Drugs: 98% Cheney?

What's Your Reaction:

Eighty billion dollars of WHAT?

I searched all over the newspapers and TV transcripts and no one asked the President what is probably the most important question of what passes for debate on the issue of health care reform: $80 billion of WHAT?

On June 22, President Obama said he'd reached agreement with big drug companies to cut the price of medicine by $80 billion. He extended his gratitude to Big Pharma for the deal that would, "reduce the punishing inflation in health care costs."

Hey, in my neighborhood, people think $80 billion is a lot of money. But is it?

I checked out the government's health stats (at HHS.gov), put fresh batteries in my calculator and totted up US spending on prescription drugs projected by the government for the next ten years. It added up to $3.6 trillion.

In other words, Obama's big deal with Big Pharma saves $80 billion out of a total $3.6 trillion. That's 2%.

Hey thanks, Barack! You really stuck it to the big boys. You saved America from these drug lords robbing us blind. Two percent. Cool!

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ALERT

Now it's Let's Make a Deal with hospital lobbyists.

First, the President was caught with his principles down, cutting a scuzzy back-room deal with pharmaceutical lobbyist Billy Tauzin to limit drug price savings to just 2% over 10 years (see attached, "Obama on Drugs: 98% Cheney?"), the New York Times today reports that another deal was sealed by lobbyist Chip Kahn of the American Hospital Association.

Here are the numbers they don't want you to see: Hospitals will be allowed to hike their prices and revenues by six trillion dollars ($5,853 billion) over the next ten years, only $155 billion less than they had projected before the Obama "reform."

In all, the Obama back-room deal will "reduce" our $26 trillion total hospital bill over the next decade by one-half of one percent.

Once again, the lobbyists got the gold mine, the public got the shaft.

Say it ain't so, Mr. President.

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For perspective: Imagine you are in a Wal-Mart and there's a sign over a flat screen TV, "BIG SAVINGS!" So, you break every promise you made never to buy from that union-busting big box - and snatch up the $500 television. And when you're caught by your spouse, you say, "But, honey, look at the deal I got! It was TWO-PERCENT OFF! I saved us $10!"

But 2% is better than nothing, I suppose. Or is it?

The Big Pharma kingpins did not actually agree to cut their prices. Their promise with Obama is something a little oilier: they apparently promised that, over ten years, they will reduce the amount at which they would otherwise raise drug prices. Got that? In other words, the Obama deal locks in a doubling of drug costs, projected to rise over the period of "savings" from a quarter trillion dollars a year to half a trillion dollars a year. Minus that 2%.

We'll still get the shaft from Big Pharma, but Obama will have circumcised the increase.

And what did Obama give up in return for $80 billion? Chief drug lobbyist Billy Tauzin crowed that Obama agreed to dump his campaign pledge to bargain down prices for Medicare purchases. Furthermore, Obama's promise that we could buy cheap drugs from Canada simply went pffft!

What did that cost us? The New England Journal of Medicine notes that 13 European nations successfully regulate the price of drugs, reducing the average cost of name-brand prescription medicines by 35% to 55%. Obama gave that up for his 2%.

The Veterans Administration is able to push down the price it pays for patent medicine by 40% through bargaining power. George Bush stopped Medicare from bargaining for similar discounts, an insane ban that Obama said he'd overturn. But, once within Tauzin's hypnotic gaze, Obama agreed to lock in Bush's crazy and costly no-bargaining ban for the next decade.

What else went down in Obama's drug deal? To find out, I called C-SPAN to get a copy of the videotape of the meeting with the drug companies. I was surprised to find they didn't have such a tape despite the President's campaign promise, right there on CNN in January 2008, "These negotiations will be on C-SPAN."

This puzzled me. When Dick Cheney was caught having secret meetings with oil companies to discuss Bush's Energy Bill, we denounced the hugger-muggers as a case of foxes in the henhouse.

Cheney's secret meetings with lobbyists and industry big-shots were creepy and nasty and evil.

But the Obama crew's secret meetings with lobbyists and industry bigshots were, the President assures us, in the public interest.

We know Cheney's secret confabs were shady and corrupt because Cheney scowled out the side of his mouth.

Obama grins in your face.

See the difference?

The difference is 2%.



Palast studied healthcare economics at the Center for Hospital Administration Studies at the University of Chicago. Greg Palast's investigative reports can be seen on BBC Television's Newsnight and, in print, at www.GregPalast.com.

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Eighty billion dollars of WHAT? I searched all over the newspapers and TV transcripts and no one asked the President what is probably the most important question of what passes for debate on the issu...
Eighty billion dollars of WHAT? I searched all over the newspapers and TV transcripts and no one asked the President what is probably the most important question of what passes for debate on the issu...
 
 
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08:33 PM on 08/22/2009
"The Big Pharma kingpins did not actually agree to cut their prices. Their promise with Obama is something a little oilier: they apparently promised that, over ten years, they will reduce the amount at which they would otherwise raise drug prices. Got that?"

So? Whenever Republicans (since the days of Bush the Elder) have proposed reducing the growth of a program - 5% increase as opposed to a 10% increase, for example - it has been called a "cut in spending", so this is, at least, consistent.
03:52 AM on 08/16/2009
It's the Chicago Way! C'mon People, quit acting like your so surprised.
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rollingrock
12:19 AM on 08/14/2009
Let's see, 2% over 10 years now that works out to 1/4 of 1% in savings PER YEAR. And even that measly amount will probably be wiped out by inflation, so after accounting for inflation there will be no actual savings at all. LOL
11:35 PM on 08/13/2009
A lot has to go right for the drug companies to see this deal come to fruition. If it's not in the House and Senate bills after conference, Obama can say--with a straight face--that he held up his end of the bargain and tried to get the concessions that PhrMa wanted. He shrugs, signs the bill, and reminds Billy Tauzin what the late speaker of the California legilslature, Jesse Unrun, said: “If you can’t drink a lobbyist’s whiskey, take his money, sleep with his women, and still vote against him in the morning, you don’t belong in politics.”
07:55 PM on 08/15/2009
Sort of.

But see, it already is the law. Bush did it, banned Medicare drug price negotiation.

So if it is not in the bill, all the better! The drug companies won't have to pretend about the 2%, or do it.
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archiebird
07:23 PM on 08/13/2009
I would not be surprised if this is true. Greg Palast has an excellent track record in my book. Obama's inexperience has shined through on SO many issues. He does not know how to stand up to these type of people he's dealing with. A typical democrat. I've been saying this for well over a month now, progressives need to jump his sinking ship and start looking for another candidate for 2012. After Bush, we can not afford another horrible 8 years of more of the same. Hillary would stand up to these people. Obama has continued and enabled TOO many of Bush's bad policies, and has not made enough headway on any of the the new...foreclosure legislation, banking regulation, and now healthcare. He's weak.
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rollingrock
06:59 PM on 08/13/2009
Let's see, 2% over 10 years that works out to 1/4 of 1% in savings PER YEAR. Wow, hallelujah! And even that measly amount will probably be wiped out by inflation, so after inflation there will be no actual savings at all. LOL.
04:53 PM on 08/13/2009
I'm confused. Is this confirmed, or just based on that "outline" in the memo that was "acquired by a lobbyist"? Because I'm upset if it's confirmed, but if not, why is this here?
04:18 PM on 08/13/2009
One other thing, as I slip into my Columbo mode. This may be a blessing by not being able to afford their toxic medicines, We the People will be healthier for it.
05:27 PM on 08/13/2009
There speaks a young and healthy "Temporarily Able Bodied."

"We the People" will of course be healthier ON AVERAGE if all the old, sick, weak, and unproductive "people" simply die off -- let alone consume expensive and only partially effective scientific-y medicine-y stuff.

The trick is to arrange to be a member of The People and not be one of the old, sick, weak, etc "persons."

Moses the Prophet lived to be 120 years old on his 100% organic shepherd's diet and all the walking he did -- why not you and me ?
09:17 PM on 08/13/2009
But Moses was kosher,I'm not kidding, there are sound reasons to keep kosher and I'm not even Jewish. We do spend way disportionately on health care for the last ten years of life than for the first ten years of life.
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mannapat
Truthiness shines a light.
02:54 PM on 08/13/2009
How many times can I be this disappointed and continue to support this Administration? I'm approaching my limit, and it makes me so sad.
04:23 PM on 08/13/2009
Put the Kool Aide down and slowly walk away. The last election was rigged, whether McCain or Obama, it didn't matter the same agenda would have been pushed. Both parties sold out to Big Money years ago. Our country is exactly at the stage why our founding fathers put the Second Amendment into our Bill of Rights.
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HowietheScreamer
Yes yes, I know my Micro bio is still empty
04:46 PM on 08/13/2009
Riiiight, Johnny "Iraq for 100 years" McCain was soooo the same. Clean out your head gear new guy.
02:34 PM on 08/13/2009
"The New England Journal of Medicine notes that 13 European nations successfully regulate the price of drugs, reducing the average cost of name-brand prescription medicines by 35% to 55%."

Do I hear that "S' word sneaking up again? You can't have your cake and eat it too! Either you want the government involved, regulating things, or your screaming TOO MUCH GOVERNMENT! What's it going to be? Who would want to stand in Obama's shoes right now? He's trying to run the country like a businessman, making deals to try and help "Middle-class Man." Oops! Being a business-like president instead of a warmonger president gives the impression that you support "lobbyists", after all, how else does one do business except with businesses?

What do all of you REALLY want? Have you given any thought to those less fortunate than yourselves?
04:44 PM on 08/13/2009
I feel sorry for the lengths you are going to in order to be able to support the president. I really am suprised that there is anyone on either side of the aisle that still thinks he is a good choice for president.

I can't think of a single major thing he has done since he has become president that I have supported.
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KISHAGREEN
05:06 PM on 08/13/2009
Yeah overnight change is sooo hard to come by these days. Quit tripping, what did you really expect in SEVEN MONTHS!

Jeez it's not like the economy was in a free fall and we were fighting two wars or anything when he was handed the reigns. Get over yourself and your disallusionment and think of all the major things that would be a lot worse if the other side had won.

I am not going to any great lengths to be able to support the president. I just know that I voted for Obama because he's a lot smarter than I am, so there must be some nuance or details that I don't quite understand about what it means to actually BE the POTUS. So I'm willing to wait a little longer than 7 months to find out what he does with this.
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JazzyJim
Nuzis stay to the Right
05:08 PM on 08/13/2009
3 things. George Bush. Sarah Palin. Do nothing Republicans.

After 8 years of Bush, OBama can do NO wrong.
Sarah Palin was the RNC answer to the worlds problems after George Bush? Dan Quale was Einstein to her.
RNC has gone loco with power. Economy on the brink, ran up huge deficits, couldn't get Bin Laden, Lied about WMD's to invade a sovereign nation (true dictator we put there by Reagan/Bush Sr. didn't work out, but I thing they've suffered more deaths than prior to our invasion), torture, wire-tapping, Gitmo...I don't know...there are just too many reasons that haven't rinsed out of my mouth yet to condem Obama for being c*ck blocked by the hateful rhetoric of the Rightwing Extremists. E.vil has a face now...Tom Coburn.
04:53 PM on 08/13/2009
This is possible because public opinion expects to get decent health care for affordable prices. And of course, right-wingers would like to privatize the whole thing.
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FWDpost
02:24 PM on 08/13/2009
Obama has become a one-term President and earned the title of liar.
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StillweRise
03:55 PM on 08/13/2009
not even a talking point...

more of a WISHING point...

now.. click your heels three times.....
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JazzyJim
Nuzis stay to the Right
05:11 PM on 08/13/2009
Oh and of course the Liars of all Liars - FOX/MURDOCH - HANNITY, BECK (sick liar!), Coultre - you have a thing for lying and yet - you dismiss your own crew of professional liars like O'Reilly, FNC & Friends (well, in fairness, they're just stupid).
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JazzyJim
Nuzis stay to the Right
05:10 PM on 08/13/2009
Liar based on what? What is it with lying republicans calling people "liars". Gingrich. Liar. Limbaugh. Liar. Beck Liar. SC. Mark Sanford, Liar, Tom Coburn, Liar. Bush. BIG BIG LIAR, Cheney, Liar. Rove EXECUTIVE LIAR...FWDPost - if lying is a fault in Washington, maybe a doctor assisted exit would help ease your pain?! Just a thought. Kevorkian is still about somewhere isn't he?
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PWM
Eisenhower Republican. Liberalism = Liberty
02:13 PM on 08/13/2009
People have to keep in mind that the problem is so great that the solution is not clear cut.
04:49 PM on 08/13/2009
You are 100% correct that the solution is not clear cut, but the two things most in need of regulation are the two things not even up for consideration.

1 tort reform
2 drug companies

I am in favor of letting drug companies produce worthwile medicines and sell them to willing buyers. I am not in favor of letting their lobbyists scheme the system by getting legislation past that doesn't allow the government any choice but to pay whatever price they ask. Tort reform and drug price reform (in the form of negotiations) with some regulation of insurance companies to prevent some of the most damaging practices and an opening up of competition across state lines would be ideal.

Unfortunately, the most impoortant points there seem to no longer even be an option...
08:41 PM on 08/22/2009
You nailed the first item, but missed with the second. Leave the drug companies alone, and focus on allowing greater competition. Remove the laws preventing insurance companies from selling across state lines, and you just caused a MASSIVE increase in competition.

Then you take care of the policy mandates that put things like pre-natal care, maternity care, acupuncture and drug rehab on my policy. All things I don't need or want, all things I still have to pay for.

Then you make Recissions REALLY expensive for insurance companies (while the actual rate of recissions is very, very low, it's still one of those things that I have a hard time liking), and while you then make it illegal to not cover someone for a pre-existing condition, you also allow the companies to charge a higher (though you limit where they can raise it to) premiums.

I mean, I smoke... I fully expect to pay a higher premium than someone who does NOT smoke, you know? At least leave me SOME incentive to stop...
01:49 PM on 08/13/2009
This pseudo health care reform debate is just that, without a public option and without an effort to rein in the insurance and pharmacutical companies there isn't going to be any reform. Reports from the Wall Street AJournal, and even the Army and FEMA are saying military units are being readied for possible forced inoculations and or quarantines this fall due to the non-threat of the swine flu. Could all this "debate" on health care reform be a smoke screen? Did Saddam Hussein have WMDs were we attack in the Gulf of Tonkin?
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drricklippin
physician-activist-poet
01:12 PM on 08/13/2009
Hey Obama and team made a bad mistake-but not fatal.

Big PhRMA made a " drug score" on them.

Big PhRMA are nothing more than drug dealers (albiet legal but certainly not ethical nor moral)

Obama and team need to recant fast and hard.

Rehab time!

Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton,Pa