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Ensuring Nuclear Safety

Posted: 05/26/11 04:17 PM ET

The tragic events in Japan have understandably shined a brighter spotlight on the safety of nuclear power in the United States and on the role and actions of the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission. As public servants, we pride ourselves on our transparency and openness and welcome the constructive dialogue about ensuring the facilities we license are operated safely and securely.

For more than six years I have served as a Commissioner and now Chairman of this independent federal government agency and I have personally seen the tremendous job the NRC staff does. Our employees are dedicated public servants who come to work every day to do one thing -- ensure that nuclear power plants and nuclear materials are safe and secure. Most of our 4,000 career employees make this a lifetime endeavor.

In the last several weeks, however, a skewed picture of the NRC has been painted in some stories -- one of missed opportunities and delayed enforcement suggesting an ineffectual regulator. Nothing could be further from the reality. Here are examples that demonstrate why I strongly disagree with the tenor of these recent accounts.

First, about 18 months ago the NRC staff acted to resolve a significant design concern they identified with the Westinghouse AP1000 reactor design, proposed for construction in Georgia. This is a multi-billion dollar project, but the NRC's effort and focus has been on determining if the design meets our stringent safety requirements and at one point our staff experts determined that it did not. Consistent with our focus on safety the NRC experts told the plant designer that changes were needed or the staff would not approve the design. It was as simple as that. Because of forceful NRC action, the vendor made significant improvements. This took place in full view of the public, including a dissenting opinion by one of our staff members. Despite this transparency, there was little public recognition that this highlighted the NRC's commitment to safety.

Second, also little noticed was our work on the reactor vessel head, the lid of the metal structure that holds the nuclear fuel, of a plant in Ohio known as Davis Besse. Last year, the licensee identified problems with the interim replacement head. The NRC immediately studied the safety significance of this defective component and made certain the plant owner did the right thing. Far from being a passive regulator, the agency demanded the plant owner accelerate replacement of the component years before the owner wanted to do so. Although this decision requires considerable cost on the part of plant owner, that had no bearing for the NRC safety experts. They simply put safety above all else, just as they had done in the case of the AP1000 reactor design. This is another example of the agency doing the right thing -- something routine for the NRC staff. But unfortunately this attracted limited media attention.

Third, during our Japan nuclear incident response, I approved a bold safety recommendation by our most senior, expert staffers. As we were monitoring the fluid situation in Japan, NRC staff became concerned that the situation could worsen and impact Americans living there. Using all of their training, the best available data, and centuries of combined nuclear safety experience, the staff recommended to me that we needed to advise American citizens to stay fifty miles away from the troubled nuclear site, recommendations that differed from the advice of the Japanese government. The staff did not focus on what might be popular with the nuclear industry but instead recommended action in the best interest of safety.

These three examples are just a few of the many ways the NRC staff works day-in and day-out to make sure nuclear power plants and nuclear materials will not cause harm to the public. I could fill the entire newspaper with just a fraction of the proactive safety measures taken by the staff in the last year. Yet as with most of our safety actions, these examples received little public attention.

Of course, we are not perfect. There are things we can do better. Among them is the need to better enforce our regulations designed to protect against the risk of fires at nuclear power plants, something the Commission continues to publicly debate. We are always striving to learn lessons and we will look to the tragedy in Japan to improve our programs, even though this event involved no U.S. nuclear facilities. In fact, just 12 days into the Japan incident the Commission created a task force to look at improvements to our regulations and oversight programs. That task force has already participated in one public meeting and is working systematically and methodically to make recommendations by July.

Ensuring nuclear safety is always challenging. We cannot guarantee the prevention of every possible accident and we seem to only make news when there are issues. But that is precisely our job -- to find problems and ensure they are resolved. The knowledge that the dedicated women and men of the NRC are there to advise me and my colleagues on the Commission leaves me confident in our ability to continue to successfully protect the health and safety of the American people.

Gregory Jaczko has been Chairman of the NRC since 2009 and a Commissioner since 2005

 
 
 
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09:09 PM on 05/30/2011
Respectfully to alvdh1,

On the issue of Tritium.

According to the following links tritium is a low beta emitter that is only potentially dangerous if breathed or swallowed. The state of CA allows a limit of 20,000 picocuries / liter which is estimated to give a annual dose of 1 mrem / year if a constant ingestion takes place over the whole year due to the biological half life of 10 days. (you drink all a power plant produces). This is a fraction of the background radiation in many places. At the same time there are NO studies that show a link between the ingestion of tritium and cancer. If I am wrong please link to those double blind studies of human subjects, or cohort tracing studies of human subjects. Thus, the comparison between warnings for potential cancer from gasoline and the cancer potential of tritium are roughly equivalent, since according to the Ill department of transportation the effects of exposure to gasoline over long periods are not well known.

However, the short term effects of gasoline are well known and a classmate of mine experienced massive scaring over his chest and neck after spilling gasoline while cutting grass and catching fire.

Links
http://www.idph.state.il.us/envhealth/factsheets/gasoline.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_equivalent_dose
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potassium-40
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_mass
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Becquerel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tritium
06:13 PM on 05/30/2011
Respectfully to alvdh1

Nuclear power captivated me for three years because I lived in and around grinding poverty for the last twelve. I was constantly looking for ways to improve the lives of the people I slept and ate with. I researched every type of energy generation possible, from Micro Hydro, to Geo-Thermal, wave, solar, wind, and bio fuels. In every case the capital costs and the cost of maintenance were greater than the value of the electricity they produced.

Designs, like pebble bed reactors, Hyperion's uranium nitride, or Liquid Fluoride Thorium reactors, and small light water reactors caught my interest because they are passively safe and small enough to place on a small island grid. The potential in breeder reactors amazed me. I found that Nuclear power is safe, abundant, and destroys Nuclear weapons. By reading both sides, I found that the health issues around radiation were vastly over blown, and in terms of actual dangers we face in the ordinary world, Nuclear power is way down on the list.

For the sake of my many poor friends I would love to see Nuclear power production increase and replace fossil fuels. Only Nuclear power has the potential to truly power the world for tens of thousands of years. The fears are overblown. How many times have you been food poisoned? I cannot count the times. Electricity providing refrigeration is a marvelous gift. Your assumption that I am a paid voice of the Nuclear Industry is wrong.
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alvdh1
11:09 AM on 05/30/2011
Gregory,

Look at the corroded head of the Davis Besse nuke in Ohio. How did you miss this for so long in the NRC inspections of the plant? Why hasn't the operator been fined to hell and back? Is industry coziness the primary mandate of the NRC?

http://www.beyondnuclear.org/home/2011/5/24/environmental-coalition-defends-intervention-against-davis-b.html
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Michael Mann
Nuclear Educator
04:46 PM on 05/30/2011
How many people were injured at Davis Besse? How many at Kleen power plant in New England? How do you measure safety? Accidents which were identified and prevented or accidents which kill people?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/07/connecticut-gas-explosion_n_452682.html
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alvdh1
11:04 AM on 05/30/2011
Gregory,

Care to comment on the possibility of the flawed ventilation system at the Fukushima GE Mark 1 reactors that may have been installed at U.S. GE Mark 1 reactors?

http://www.beyondnuclear.org/home/2011/5/19/beyond-nuclear-and-co-petitioners-demand-nrc-come-clean-on-f.html
11:56 PM on 05/28/2011
Dear Chairman Jaczko,

I am interested in how quickly your agency will review the applications for new smaller modular reactors that promise an even greater degree of safety. Your requirement that a SMR bring an customer to the table before even being considered is a catch 22. A customer cannot purchase a reactor before your approval and a company cannot get your approval without a customer....

Please change this rule.
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alvdh1
11:12 AM on 05/30/2011
THINK FREELY,

This is a good think since you want hundreds of little radioactive terrorist targets spread around the U.S.
05:09 PM on 05/30/2011
Oh, yes this is precisely my aim, I am sure that this will provide lots of material for Terrorists!! I am sooooo excited by the prospect and I am just anxious to see it underway.

I am after all a total fool and idiot to think that terrorist would not be drooling to get their hands on uranium enriched to 5% and burned in a Nuclear reactor ..... Yep can't beat that bomb, way better to smash dry fuel casks than to fly airplanes into buildings, or to poison water supplies, or to blow up LNG terminals. Nope let's go for the easy nuclear stuff....
07:57 PM on 05/28/2011
Chairman Jaczko seems to think the only thing protecting the public from nuclear catastrophe is the NRC. A reactor operator has no incentive to risk a mutli-billion dollar asset by cutting corners on safety. Every day a reactor is down, it loses over a million dollars is lost revenue and the cost of replacement power. Tepco will pay many billions for the Fukushima decontamination and decommissioning. There is no amount of regulator fines or enforcement actions that would give owners a greater incentive to ensure the reactor is operated safely.
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alvdh1
11:14 AM on 05/28/2011
Chairman Jaczko,

Stating that we cannot guarantee the prevention of every accident is unacceptable in an industry that requires absolute perfection. It is obvious that the NRC is relying on a technocratic acceptable risk model where risk can always be managed away through inspections, engineering and industry self-policing. This might be an acceptable NRC policy if it could be relied upon on all fronts. Unfortunately, it cannot as evidenced by the NRC's cozy relationship with industry due to the lack of strong enforcement through heavy fines and failure by the NRC to engage in thorough inspections that would have, for example, identified the corroded reactor head at Davis Besse long before it had become a safety issue for the residents of Toledo and Cleveland and Lake Erie.

These are just a couple of examples of how the NRC has fallen down on the job of inspections and enforcement. The entire Great Lakes region and the worlds largest body of fresh water is in jeopardy by the NRC's ongoing failure to get tough on the nuclear power industry by paying lip service to safety violations with slaps on the wrists of public safety violators. In fact, the NRC's band-aide approach to safety ensures that it is not a question of if, but rather when the next catastrophic commercial nuclear power accident will occur in America.

Continued
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alvdh1
11:35 AM on 05/28/2011
An example of this is the continued licensing of reactors beyond their designed operational life while operating beyond 100 percent power. Brittle piping and reactor vessels will increase the risk of accidents. Allowing utilities to operate ticking nuclear time bombs is not the mission that was intended for the NRC. Public health and safety is the paramount duty of the NRC. You have lit the fuse and it is anybody's guess when the bomb will go off.

Another issue of public health concern of NRC inspection and enforcement relates to the underground piping that has led to multiple tritium releases at several reactors that has contaminated ground water. As a safety enforcement agency, why haven't the utilities been forced to install new above ground piping to eliminate the problem? Why haven't strong fines been levied against these utilities for ground water contamination? The lack of enforcement is just another indication of the agency's cozy relationship with industry that was to have ended when the AEC was dissolved. Lapsing back into industry coziness does not inspire confidence in the NRC's mandated role of regulator.

The AP-1000 reactor is the latest NRC experiment with public safety. You can pat yourself on the back for requiring design changes to the planned Georgia facility, but this will be the first U.S. operational AP-1000 reactor. It is should be labeled as a full scale experimental reactor with zero operating experience - a test of a new design with public exposure to the experiment.
11:25 PM on 05/28/2011
You are not wanting regulation but elimination. You state that ground water contamination occurred with Tritium releases but give not a single comparison of the dangers involved. Instead, the mere fact that you state this should get us jumping in our shoes.

So, for example, is the Tritium released by the US reactors more dangerous than getting gasoline on your hands while pumping gas at a local gas station? Is it more dangerous than laying on the beach for about 3 hours? How about more dangerous than moving to Colorado?

I am not a member of the Nuclear Industry, but have worked in the non-profit arena for more than 12 years. I have come to understand that there are those who want to eliminate the only source of electricity that can actually replace Coal, and Natural gas. I have also come to understand, after reading many sources that radiation is not as dangerous as it has been played up to be. Most people don't understand this because that fact is constantly downplayed, ignored and lied about. But a careful reading of the actual effects of radiation at various levels and a comparison to the medical uses of radiation lead to the conclusion that the "safety" levels for Nuclear Power Plants is nearly 1000 times greater (lower) than it really needs to be.

So, we get to run around screaming about "safety" and making false accusations about the NRC to block any real production of electricity that we really need.
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04:35 PM on 05/27/2011
In the interest of real transparency, I think that the public, which includes nuclear energy professionals who strongly disagree with the 50 mile evacuation recommendation, be told EXACTLY what the bases were for the recommendation. We should be told what models were used, what assumptions were made and what the calculation outputs showed.

I have talked to several senior staff members who have each been with the NRC for more than 2 decades. According to my sources, the Chairman acted either unilaterally or with "advice" from a very select group of appointees - not professional members of the permanent staff. The Chairman has a very short resume - before his six years as an appointed commissioner, it consisted of three jobs on congressional staffs during the period from 1999-2005. That's it. He is now acting like a monarch.

Rod Adams
09:47 PM on 05/27/2011
Hi Rod - it's not enough to replicate their method, but I saw this description in May 20 NRC staff Q
09:55 PM on 05/27/2011
Three Q
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atomicrod
Atomic professional
04:30 AM on 05/28/2011
Steve - I do not understand your comment. Is there a link or something missing? What description do you mean when you say "I saw this description..."
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alvdh1
11:47 AM on 05/28/2011
I am not surprised at such a ludicrous question by one of the most ardent supporters of nuclear power and one of the most ardent deniers of the health risk associated with ionizing radiation. The below maps indicate the soil contamination, but not the atmospheric contamination where residents were susceptible to inhalation and ingestion of cesium137,134, strontium90, plutonium239 and iodine131. Your sole purpose here purpose is to subtly minimize the health effects of a level 7 accident.

http://www.japanprobe.com/2011/05/10/fukushima-radiation-map/ You can use this one if you know how to read maps

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPcqedrhfgE Or this one if your verbal visual acuity is more perceptive.
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Fissionary
02:21 PM on 05/28/2011
I realize that asking someone to support their accusations with evidence is a foreign concept to an antinuclear activist, by nukes like Rod and myself require proof. You might look into accountability. It's what separates folks like Rod from people like you.
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Malcolm Hensley
Last of the Reagan Republicans
01:55 PM on 05/27/2011
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110526/wl_africa_afp/safricaenergynuclear;_ylt=AsTQb5dJ96QIAj3qQYsipAS96Q8F;_ylu=X3oDMTJzZGw0bHAyBGFzc2V0A2FmcC8yMDExMDUyNi

The Fast Developing nations aren't slowing down on nuclear power development.

South Africa just announce it is staying on track!
08:29 AM on 05/27/2011
Right, dedicated and hard working. You should be able then to tell us how any new, or old for that matter, reactor sites are prepared to deal with threats to the waste stored at the site? Most of this waste is stored in a fairly large swimming pool like facility. The only containment to the pool being provided by the ceiling of the room. This ceiling has a tendency to leave when there is the expected hydrogen explosion after the beginnings of a meltdown. Fukishima has over 1700 Tonnes of nuclear waste material melting away in these swimming pool structures. NRC to my knowledge has never talked about the dangers or safety measures employed to make our atomic swimming pools safer than Japan. This weakness alone makes these plants the largest potential dirty bomb.
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Fissionary
01:23 PM on 05/27/2011
The largest diry bomb is the coal plant that has no containment and pumps a few hundred thousand cubic yards of CO2, sulfuric acid, lead, mercury, arsenic, and even radioactive material into the atmosphere even when everything is working.

The fuel pools at Fukushima were unaffected by the event. Did you happen to catch when the robot stuck a camerca in the Unit 4 pool and found 30 feet of water above the fuel and everything exactly where it was supposed to be?
02:31 AM on 05/27/2011
Have you heard of the low level radiation campaign? llrc.org? British scientists started it and others joined in.
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Fissionary
01:29 PM on 05/27/2011
Scientists? Doubtful.
Mark from atlanta
Unity through Diversity.
01:31 AM on 05/27/2011
The NRC has been toting water for the nuclear industry for years. An accident like the one in Japan is inevitable.
07:53 AM on 05/27/2011
You probably didn't even know what the NRC was until March 11. Now you're an expert on their dealings with the industry as well as the likelihood of an accident?
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Malcolm Hensley
Last of the Reagan Republicans
01:57 PM on 05/27/2011
There will be more nuclear power generated by the fast developing nations in less than 20 years than generated by the industrial nations!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110526/wl_africa_afp/safricaenergynuclear;_ylt=AsTQb5dJ96QIAj3qQYsipAS96Q8F;_ylu=X3oDMTJzZGw0bHAyBGFzc2V0A2FmcC8yMDExMDUyNi

Check out South Africa!
All in the name of reducing Climate Change,
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undsoweiter
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01:25 PM on 05/28/2011
Bless 'em. Meanwhile, Germany is cutting off nuclear and building coal plants.
http://www.thegwpf.org/international-news/2846-german-social-democrats-call-for-eight-to-ten-coal-power-plants-.html
A step in the wrong direction.
Genders
Love, Tolerance, Enlightenment
09:10 PM on 05/28/2011
Very unlikely since 70% of new energy installed has been green, not nukes, not coal, not oil, not gas. http://www.newenergyworldnetwork.com/alternative-energy-analysis/more-new-wind-power-installed-in-2009-than-any-other-energy-technology.html http://www.greenm3.com/gdcblog/2010/7/6/62-of-eus-2009-new-energy-capacity-installed-is-renewable.html Green energy is cheaper than nukes too.

No, the future of energy is rooftop solar, offshore wind and waste bio char bio fuels. That combination supplies 24/7, clean, safe, cheaper, forever energy.
12:43 AM on 05/27/2011
MOST of the spent fuel ever generated by American nuclear plants is still stored on-site in pools. If grid power fails diesel generators power the cooling systems.

For decades critics have been asking the NRC to require that the spent fuel be moved to permanent dry-cask storage.

3/26/11 GE Mark I
American reactors of the same design and vintage as the ones damaged in Japan touted as safer:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/27/us/27reactor.html

And it did work:
4/28/11 GE Mark I
Alabama nuclear plant shuts safely after tornadoes - on diesel power
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110428/us_nm/us_utilities_operations_tva_browns

But what about a double or triple whammy? Mr. Jaczko should be begging for dry-cask storage, not just telling us we are sooo OK.

My conclusion: The NRC will make reassuring statements until half the US glows green.
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Michael Mann
Nuclear Educator
04:15 PM on 05/27/2011
I know that most plants have an ISFSI project to remove older used fuel to dry cask storage.
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realitytrumpsbull
Two 'alves of coconut!
08:16 PM on 05/26/2011
I think when a windmill falls over, you might be out a cow, or a fence, or your garage or something like that, when your nuclear power plant 'falls over'(Japan), you have to evacuate, and clean up, and...I really like the windmill idea. I hope Japan really hits the power stroke with alternatives, and they can go back and rip out all those damn nuclear plants. They've got stuff like miles of coastline, active volcanoes for geothermal development, plus an island-state full of wizards, and I think they'll probably be world leaders in terms of continuing the push for next-generation energy. Nukes are OK, if well-designed, but I think they should be used in minimum application possible. Why screw around with the atom, when we've got perfectly good non-radioactive air molecules flying around in obnoxiously unburdened and free fashion, just waiting to be harnessed and put to work?
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10:16 PM on 05/26/2011
10,000 windmills and lesser safety requiements mean the likelihood of a windmill accident that actually kills someone is greater than the potential damage from a nuclear plant. I say potential because all technologies posess some inherrent danger, even the soft technologies. The fact that the American nuclear fleet is more robust today is a testament to the lessons learned and resolve of many professionals, including the 4000 at NRC. There would be radiation flying around without nuclear energy, thats a product of the above ground testing during the Cold War.

The best we can hope for is to tame the atom for peaceful purposes, because it is not going away.
Mark from atlanta
Unity through Diversity.
01:33 AM on 05/27/2011
Your icon is very appropriate.
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Edward Standley
opinionated jerk
07:44 AM on 05/27/2011
I think that nuclear power, like coal and oil, is a necessary evil till we "leap" into the 21st century energy conversion of renewables. Coal and nuclear power are sold to the public as "cheap" energy, but I think too many people aren't aware of all the subsidies to those industries. Also, the Price-Anderson Act of 1959 ensures that the taxpayer, not the energy provider, is stuck with the bill when the inevitable catastrophic nuclear plant accident occurs.
08:03 AM on 05/27/2011
"Why screw around with the atom, when we've got perfectly good non-radioa­ctive air molecules flying around in obnoxiousl­y unburdened and free fashion, just waiting to be harnessed and put to work?"

Because, wind is a diffuse and intermittent source of energy. The power produced by a windmill is proportional to the cube of the wind speed. Most of the electricity generated by windmills is less than 1/3 of its operating time. There's also no control over when that power is produced. What does this all mean; it means that unless your utility has access to a large hydro source, integration of wind power must accompanied by quick responding thermal sources such as natural gas. Windmills may have limited harmful effects, but the extraction, transport, and combustion of natural gas doesn't.

http://www.energyindustryphotos.com/natural gas pipeline fire.jpg
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01:33 PM on 05/28/2011
Anyone who thinks NG is "green" has never seen (or heard) a compressor plant.
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Fissionary
02:16 PM on 05/28/2011
I've spent a great deal of time rehabilitating predatory bird populations in my area. When I see pictures of men carrying dead eagles that were chopped in half by a turbine blade, I don't consider wind power green.

It's worse than DDT when it comes to raptors.
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Overtone
See bio on the Aesop Institute website
07:38 PM on 05/26/2011
Nuclear plants have emergency power for about two days. NASA and the NOAA are warning of a possible collapse of the power grid in large parts of the nation lasting for weeks.

See Green Light at www.aesopinstitute.org for an overview of the problem. The NRC is apparently doing nothing to safeguard the nation in the event of any long term outage at a nuclear plant.

A breakthrough indicates that nuclear waste can by converted into power on-site with new technology that will adapt large diesel engines to be powered by the waste. This and other revolutionary technology can replace any need to move the waste offsite - let alone to Yucca Mountain. Moving the waste elsewhere is another dangerous nightmare!
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10:17 PM on 05/26/2011
In the 1990s there was a technology that converted nuclear waste to power on site. It was the Integral Fast Reactor.
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Overtone
See bio on the Aesop Institute website
12:11 AM on 05/27/2011
Thanks. I'll look into it.
Genders
Love, Tolerance, Enlightenment
09:19 PM on 05/28/2011
Sodium cooled???????