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Do Wild Baboons Kidnap Puppies... and Keep Them As Pets?

Posted: 08/03/2012 11:20 am

In a previous post , I argued that humans are the only species to keep pets. (Calm down -- I know about Koko's kitten, etc. While long-term odd couple attachments between species are common in homes, wildlife parks, and in captivity, they don't seem to exist in the wild.)

But a three-minute YouTube video clip a friend sent me via Facebook raises serious questions about my pet theory. The video depicts a troop of pet-keeping Hamadryas baboons living in a garbage dump outside of Ta'if, Saudi Arabia. It's a sweltering lunar landscape not far from the Red Sea. Amazingly, the baboons' pets are dogs. Before going on, I suggest you watch the video. While the first 30 seconds are a little upsetting, trust me, it ends well. Watch it right NOW (by clicking here)!

Tracking A Primate Detective Story On Facebook

Largely because of Facebook, the baboon-dog YouTube video has gone viral (half a million hits as I write this). I was certainly haunted by it, particularly because it undercuts my contention that only humans keep pets. Hence, I spent hours searching the scientific literature for a legitimate reference to this pet-keeping baboon troop. I found zip. Then I put the clip on my Facebook page and contacted some researchers who study canine behavior and evolution: James Serpell, Clive Wynne, Alan Beck, Julie Hecht, and Adam Miklosi. While all of them were fascinated by the video, none of them knew anything about the baboons and their pet puppies.

I got a break when the ever-curious David Hinton decided this was worth chasing down. David soon discovered that the YouTube clip was from a British nature series called Animals Like Us. Then we stumbled on the Facebook page of the Saudi Arabian American Baboon Research Association. I contacted them immediately. They were, indeed, familiar with the Ta'if baboon troop, but they knew of no documented evidence that the baboons kept dogs as pets. The researchers had seen baboons kidnap kittens, but they have not studied these relationships systematically -- a future project, they promised.

But the big break came when we decided to try to trace the baboon-dog connection through the dogs. The dogs at the trash dump appeared to be a type of natural breed called Canaan dogs.

Natural breeds, sometimes referred to as "pariah dogs," are found in many parts of the world, often on the outskirts of human settlements. They tend to be mid-sized animals with short hair and pointy ears (here). Often tan or brownish, they resemble Australian dingos in size and shape. They are called "natural breeds" because the dogs pick their own mates and are not subjected to the arbitrary aesthetic rules of human overlords.

Within a couple of hours, David and I had independently contacted a microbiologist and Canaan dog expert named Duncan Schroeter. Duncan became interested in Caanan dogs while he was engaged in a research project in Saudi Arabia and had adopted several of them as pets. (See here) In an email, he told me he knew about the baboons at Ta'if and had tried, unsuccessfully, to get Saudi wildlife officials to investigate their curious relationships with dogs. He also mentioned that baboons and dogs easily intermingle at a different site in the Asir region of Saudi Arabia.

The Big Question

Then Duncan raised the big question. He wrote, "Are these baboons and dogs merely tolerating each other in areas where both can find food or are they truly living together with the dogs staying with the baboons when they move away? It is easy and more sensational to put any interpretation on commercial "documentaries." In short, are the Ta'if baboons really keeping dogs as their personal pets or is the YouTube clip just another example of Animal Planet type TV bullshit?

For what it's worth, here's what I think we know about the Ta'if baboons and their "pets":

1. The baboon/dog interactions were filmed in a garbage dump in Saudi Arabia by a French film crew. (I emailed the director several times but never heard back from her.)

2. Ta'if baboons have regular contact with humans and are sometimes fed by people.

3. The dogs appear to be free-ranging Canaan dogs. However, as Christy Hoffman, a professor in the new anthrozoology program at Canisnus College, astutely pointed out to me, the large white dog that appears toward the end of the clip seems to be wearing a collar. This is unusual in Saudi Arabia where dogs are generally considered vermin.

4. Dogs and wild baboons occasionally play together in other parts of their range.

5. Young male baboons do kidnap infant female baboons, presumably to become incorporated into their harem.

So, are the baboons of Ta'if really keeping puppies as pets? Some authorities are doubtful. The anthrozoologist Boria Sax, author of the wonderful new book City of Ravens, wrote (again, on Facebook), "You can't tell just what is happening from the video alone, and we have only the word of the narrator that the dogs are kept as pets. I am skeptical." Eniko Kubinyi, a canine ethologist at the Family Dog Project in Budapest was more blunt, "Dogs as pets of baboons? Science fiction. Baboons and dogs share the same environment, and they are socially plastic, so they enjoy the company of others. It seems the male is just 'playing' with the puppy, I wouldn't call it kidnapping. Additionally, a pet should be fed, at least. Do the baboons feed the puppies? I wouldn't think so."

My Questions

I am skeptical, too. But I have been obsessed by the video for a week. It raises a host of questions in my mind. For example,

1. How long do the dogs live with the baboons? Is it a long-term or temporary arrangement?

2. Do the baboons get anything from the dogs other than somebody to love and play with? How do the dogs benefit?

3. Do baboons ever kill or eat puppies. ("Pet-keeping" has been described in chimps -- but within an hour the "pet" always seems to wind up dead.)

4. Is the baboon-dog relationship affected by the fact that the "pets" and their "owners" live in a garbage dump? Is there enough edible human refuse (literally, "junk food") to keep everyone fat and happy so the monkeys and dogs don't compete for food?

If I learn more about the mystery of Ta'if "pet-keeping" I'll post it here. If you know more about it than I do, send me an email or write a comment at the end of this post.

And, if you are a grad student looking for a doctoral dissertation, this could be a winner.

Hal Herzog teaches psychology at Western Carolina University and is the author of Some We Love, Some We Hate, Some We Eat: Why It's So Hard To Think Straight About Animals. For some of his other blog posts on human-animal interactions see Animals and Us.

 

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In a previous post , I argued that humans are the only species to keep pets. (Calm down -- I know about Koko's kitten, etc. While long-term odd couple attachments between species are common in homes, ...
In a previous post , I argued that humans are the only species to keep pets. (Calm down -- I know about Koko's kitten, etc. While long-term odd couple attachments between species are common in homes, ...
 
 
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05:56 AM on 09/23/2012
I don't think any other creature is capable of the concept of pets for a very simple reason. As far as I know Homo Sapiens is the only specie that actively distinguishes itself from other species and consider them "animals." In my opinion keeping a pet requires you to maintain the mentality that I'm keeping this "animal" around me and alive for my personal enjoyment. I honestly don't think non-human species perceive things that way. If they actively keep something around, feed it, and keep it alive, I believe it's out of rearing/parental instincts, while with a human, it's parental instincts mixed with this complex twisted concept of "owning" this animal. So no, I don't think a baboon will ever tame a dog as a pet, or ever develop the frame of mind of leashing an animal. They may be smart enough to use a leash, but not with the same desire the control behavior and exercise dominance.
04:08 PM on 08/08/2012
Just admit you were wrong already, humans apparently aren't the only species to keep pets.
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crankyCrackPot
My imaginary friend says that you need a therapist
11:36 AM on 08/07/2012
Bottom of your post asked the same questions I have.
This environment is not quite "wild enough" and has had enough human modification and involvement to ask if the environment helped shape the behavior.

A garbage dump would give an abundance of food and any such environment would theoretically limit the aggression and competition in the area between species.

A question I have is, if the Saudi's view dogs as pests and not pets, how did the dogs get there and how long have they been feral? Did they cross the deserts themselves?

We have a rescue that we always thought was a white German Sheppard with maybe a little lab mixed in.... But with my curiosity piqued I started looking at pictures and now I am pretty sure that we've been wrong all along.

My wife got quite the kick out of the story.
Thank you and remember... wag more, bark less.
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April Pells
10:30 PM on 08/06/2012
I watched the video without sound, so I didn't get polluted by the narrator's agenda. I do not think this is a pet/owner relationship. The baboon dragging the puppy seemed interested in what the puppy was, and once his curiosity was sated, he left. The other dogs roaming near the baboons seemed like they were just there for the food and didn't mind the baboons because no one was competing for food, much the way that seagulls and cats hang around garbage dumpsters at beach restaurants. Never made me think the seagulls were having cats as pets.
02:22 PM on 08/05/2012
Once I had a female cat that had a passion for mice. She was a great hunter, and her favorite time of the year was when our family moved to the fields to put up hay. Bright and early she'd disappear into the alfalfa, only to return when she was too full and tired to enjoy her sport. By mid-day she would return with a live mouse in her jaws. Finding a nice cool spot in the shade, she would corral the mouse in her front paws and snooze until the mouse broke for cover, or she decided it was time for lunch. Then "Good bye, Mouse".

I don't think that mouse could be termed a "pet" by any means, though the cat did bring it home and "nurture" it for a while. The same may be said for this group of baboons: the baboon troop successfully corrals the pup, but what happens after that? This video didn't track the events long enough to draw any real conclusions. The older dogs, though roaming with the troop, may actually simply be feral dogs that have found themselves in league with the baboons because of similar goals; i.e. food and protection. The fact that a mature dog wears a collar would bear that out, as it is obvious she was not stolen as a pup. Longer term study is needed here before drawing conclusions.
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crankyCrackPot
My imaginary friend says that you need a therapist
11:39 AM on 08/07/2012
I don't think that mouse could be termed a "pet" by any means, though the cat did bring it home and "nurture" it for a while.
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I too have seen similar behavior and we think of such captured prey as toys; we have asked that the cats not play with their food but that has had little affect.
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karim banned
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02:11 PM on 08/05/2012
There are daily demonstration in Eastern Saudi Arabia, where the oil is, against the regime and HP is reporting about baboons and Saudi Female athlete. Why?
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crankyCrackPot
My imaginary friend says that you need a therapist
11:42 AM on 08/07/2012
Because this is the science section.
And by the way, you won't read about the Saudi demonstrations anywhere because they do not fit the current narratives and they do not scare enough readers to be "interesting".
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karim banned
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12:17 AM on 08/08/2012
I guess that's the only way Saudi Arabia could be presented in Science section!

If destiny of one country should be of importance in a world that based on fossil fuel, that's Saudi Arabia, the biggest oil exporter in the world. Western people do now know or care because the western media is not functioning and it is an entertainment rather than source of useful information. 
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12:46 PM on 08/04/2012
The basic question

(Are the baboons keeping dogs as pets?) is ill conceived, as it imposes an anthropomorphic conception on the baboons and then (big surprise) the following analysis finds that imposition of little validity. The concluding set of questions point to more fruitful areas of enquiry, as these questions focus on the actual behaviors of the baboons and dogs and not on a fanciful Aesop's fable.

Lune
07:50 AM on 08/04/2012
fascinating....similar perhaps to how humans and dogs first began their mutually beneficial relationship?
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crankyCrackPot
My imaginary friend says that you need a therapist
11:43 AM on 08/07/2012
Dogs were domesticated as food.
At least that's what our best information suggests.
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sLUCIDITy
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10:16 PM on 08/03/2012
Fascinating! I look forward to the answers to your questions.
09:35 PM on 08/03/2012
i would think more likley the puppies are somthing of a curiosity and a toy to the baboons . though primates are said to be more playfull when there isn't alot of competion for food, baboons are scavenging primates, dogs are natural scavengers. like how differnt birds, starlings, sparrows and pidegons will all forage and be fed in a public park.
12:06 AM on 08/04/2012
I agree. And I was just sent a Saudi newspaper report indicating that tourist come to the site and feed the animals. Hence there is a lot of artificial food around. This seems to be the case of all reports I know of animals keeping "pets" in the wild.
05:05 PM on 08/03/2012
I think we can set this video aside, as an example of something that's interesting, but not even 20% of the way toward demonstrating that baboons are keeping dogs as pets.
12:07 AM on 08/04/2012
I agree - thanks for your comment Simon.
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SerbNik
02:16 PM on 08/03/2012
Yes they do. I've seen it. Maybe they're not pets but more protectors thoo.
12:09 AM on 08/04/2012
Where have you seen it? Did you witness the "pets" actually being fed? And where was the site? (I really do want to pursue this story! Hal
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SerbNik
02:41 PM on 08/04/2012
I watched the documentary on NatGeo. I think it was Baboons,but wich country it was,beat me,I can't remmember.