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5 Myths About Public Employee Pensions

Posted: 07/11/2012 12:36 pm

There's an oft repeated myth being fed by many that claims the defined benefit pension plans available to most public employees are going bankrupt.

While a new report by the Pew Center for the States feeds those myths, Pew's research paints a false picture of pensions. Here are five oft-peddled myths about public pensions followed by the facts.

1. Pensions are going bankrupt.

The methods used to calculate a pension system's funding level are quite complicated and convoluted, which has enabled detractors to point to the funds in a few states -- Illinois, Rhode Island, Connecticut and Kentucky -- where funding shortfalls are notably higher.

Pew's "new" report relies on data from 2010, but that snapshot gives an inaccurate portrayal of the current fiscal health of pensions. In 2010, when the recovery was not as far along as it is today, 16 states were above the threshold that Pew says is necessary to qualify for good fiscal health. The number of states meeting that threshold today is probably much higher. For example, in Wisconsin the primary pension fund is 99.8 percent funded today. In the state of Washington, pensions are 119 percent funded today. In North Carolina, pensions are 100 percent funded today. Perhaps most important, pensions will continue to recover steadily as markets rebound.

2. States are facing an "unfunded liability" in excess of anywhere from $3 trillion to $757 billion.

The concept of an "unfunded liability" is misleading because pension benefits are paid out over decades. A mortgage represents a good analogy. Imagine newlyweds, both of whom work, buying a $300,000 home and putting $20,000 down. The $280,000 they owe represents an "unfunded liability," but like pensions, that money is not due all at once. It is due over 30 years, under the terms of a typical loan agreement.

Opponents of public employee pensions have skillfully portrayed pension liabilities as a bill that is due today. If homeowners had to pay the full cost of their home at the time of purchase, 99 percent of us would be renting. But homeowners don't have to pay for the homes all at once, so it's very misleading to portray pension funds in that light because pensions are paid to retirees over many decades.

3. States can no longer afford to pay benefits.

Payments to pension systems account for less than three percent of state budgets. Most of the funds in pension plans are not even provided by taxpayers -- two-thirds of all pension assets are contributed by employees or earned on investments.

Where pensions are underfunded, it's overwhelmingly because of the recession and because states took "pension holidays," which means politicians declined to make their state or locality's annual contribution -- breaking a promise to the public servants of that state and in a bad faith effort as the fiscal stewards of taxpayer dollars. Had they simply honored their commitments when times were good, virtually no state pension system would have unfunded pension liabilities that raise concerns.

This approach has worked for opponents of pensions because it allows them to shift blame to workers, but it does not change the fact that it advocates allowing states to ignore their responsibility to the people who perform the work to protect the public, teach our children and keep the state providing many other valuable services to its citizens.

4. Public employee benefits are overly generous.

Since pensions are now virtually non-existent in the private sector, and because the recession decimated the nest eggs of everyone with money in the stock market, opponents of defined benefit pensions have gained traction with this argument by creating and fostering pension envy.

The story that isn't told is that the pensions public employees receive, in most cases, are the only source of income those workers receive in retirement since most are not allowed to collect Social Security. And the median benefit of those receiving a pension paid by a public employer is $23,407, according to the National Institute for Retirement Security.

The hope is that their pension gives the average public worker the ability to pay their basic bills, but they definitely aren't getting rich in their old age.

CEO pay provides a better example of overly generous pay. Apple CEO Tim Cook earned $900,000 in pay and performance benefits in 2011 and received restricted stock worth $376 million that vests in 2016 and 2021. CEOs of the S&P 500 Index companies earned 380 times the salary of an average worker in 2011, according to the AFL-CIO's Executive Paywatch study.

5. We can fix the pension system by converting to 401(k)-style defined contribution plans.

There is a well-financed effort to force 401(k) plans as the solution because Wall Street firms stand to earn billions of dollars in fees if pensions are converted to 401(k)s.

But the momentum of that effort is dwindling because 401(k)s have provided investors with a paltry return over time. Think about what has happened to your own 401(k) since 2008 and whether the money in that account would be enough to sustain you in retirement.

A 60-year-old who worked for 30 years has an average 401(k) account balance of $172,555, according to the Employee Benefits Research Institute. That will provide retirement income of only $575.18 per month. It would take a 401(k) account balance of $1,000,000 to provide $40,000 annually over one's lifetime. To achieve a $1,000,000 account balance, you would need to contribute $1,000 a month every month for 30 years and earn a 6 percent return [after fees]. With an estimated 20 million Americans unemployed or underemployed and with real wages stagnant for decades -- average hourly earnings for all private-sector production and nonsupervisory workers across the economy have risen just 5.3% to $19.72 since 2000, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics -- those who work for a living in this country over the past 30 years, not many have $1,000 to save every month after paying their bills.

The real retirement crisis is not in the public sector. It is in the private sector. The average 401(k) balance today is just $71,500, according to Fidelity Investments. Americans whose retirement security relies on Social Security supplemented by such small balances in 401(k)s must consider how they will avoid falling into poverty in their retirement years and states will need to figure out how they will provide welfare to those who do.

401(k)s were always intended to supplement -- not replace -- one's retirement income. About 10,000 Americans a day are turning 65 years old, according to the Pew Center for the States. While Wall Street's 401(k) plans have done nothing to help retirees enjoy their golden years, defined benefit plans are the best way to support retirees and allow them to continue to contribute to their local economies.

 
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There's an oft repeated myth being fed by many that claims the defined benefit pension plans available to most public employees are going bankrupt. While a new report by the Pew Center for the States...
There's an oft repeated myth being fed by many that claims the defined benefit pension plans available to most public employees are going bankrupt. While a new report by the Pew Center for the States...
 
 
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07:41 AM on 07/31/2012
The average public sector retirement is 25K, where as the average Social Security benefit is 15K. Many in the public sector can retire as early as age 50, while with Social Security, early retirement is 62, with a reduction in benefit. Also, the public sector retirees are afforded reduced premiums on health insurance, while the private sector must pay at extreme levels. My father retired from the Chicago Police department at age 50 after working for 25 years, he has now received more in benefits than he ever earned while working. This article is Self Serving.
02:55 PM on 08/06/2012
Wow, the Richest 1% have fooled you into turning on your own father. Like the brother below said...You wouldn't want a fire truck full of 60 year olds pulling up if your house was on fire. We have lost 1/3 of the middle class to date. Wake up ! You are advocating a "Race to the Bottom." Public Vs Private ? 25 K Vs 15 K ? 50 K Vs 25 K ? They have us fighting with each other about thousands while they make hundreds OF MILLIONS. Wake up! We fight fire, catch criminals, teach children. We are not your enemy !
03:55 AM on 08/07/2012
How did I turn on anyone? I am just pointing out that most of private sector have less benefits than the public sector. Those of who that are currently receiving benefits deserve what was promised to them, but if we keep benefits the same for new employees, the system can't be sustained. You are not the enemy, but you can't get blood from a turnip, nor should you expect the middle/lower classes to be burdened further.

And true I wouldn't like a fire truck full of 60 year olds pulling up at my house, but I also know many fireman have second careers, due to their relaxed schedules. I know your argument will be that they risk their lives for us, though that is true, but most public sector employees do not, including teachers.

This article looks like it was meant to be a poster child for the public sector unions, and nothing more.
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11:44 AM on 07/23/2012
Ì keep hearing about all these cops and firefighters who are drawing $100,000 a year pensions and I guess there are individuals who gamed the system and won big. But as a retired firefighter I draw about $25,000 a year and I know that this is much closer to the norm. I wonder how folks would feel if a fire truck pulled up in front of their burning house's and a bunch of 60 year olds climbed down
01:57 AM on 07/23/2012
If we compensate the public employees at market value, you know, what the rest of us get for a similar job, there would be more funding for services and our universities. Simple as that.

Public employee salaries are higher than private sector for the same jobs as the article reference below will inform you. “Public employees earn higher average salaries than private-sector workers in more than eight out of 10 occupations, a USA TODAY analysis of federal data finds. These salary figures do not include the value of health, pension and other benefits, which averaged $40,785 per federal employee in 2008 vs. $9,882 per private worker, according to the Bureau of Economic Analysis.”

More importantly, the pensions they are promised at our expense are literally bankrupting cities (Stockton, San Bernardino). Note extremely liberal San Jose and San Diego voted by 70% to 30% to curtail public employee pensions which are taking money away from much needed public services, the poor, the universities, and we could add teachers too.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-03-04-federal-pay_N.htm
09:34 AM on 07/23/2012
I work in Kentucky state government, and I can tell you from experience that our pay is far lower than what our counterparts make in the private sector. I am a software developer, and I have known for years that I am underpaid. I have not received any sort of substantial (i.e. 5%) raise in 11 years. There are no promotions, no raises, no bonuses. But there have been pay cuts. I get basic medical, of which I pay a significant portion of the premium. I contribute 5% towards my own retirement pension. I do not receive dental or vision or any other such perks, other than what I have mentioned.

An outside agency has been hired to determine how best to reorganize Kentucky state government IT. One of their findings was that we are dramatically underpaid. No surprise here.

According to Taxpayers United, Rand Paul's anti-tax organization, the average Kentucky retiree makes $20,400 a year in retirement income. That includes the retirement of the "top brass", who actually do quite well in their retirements.

The average working employee gets screwed working in the public sector. And pressure is continually mounting to hurt our incomes even more. Working in the public sector is a constant battle to maintain morale. Everyone I know is completely devastated on the job. There is constant pressure pay and benefits even more. At this point, I just want to make it to retirement and get out.
10:54 PM on 07/23/2012
First of all, I respect your obvious intelligence and position requiring analytical skills (I am an engineer in the private sector) and I don’t doubt anything you say. If you have a job you can’t be fired from, like the union public employees in California, then by the laws of economics, you should be paid less for the higher security job. Let me ask you to do this simple calculation (don’t quote averages…means nothing as you know): if you put 5% of your salary aside for 30 years, what return on that money must you get to earn a pension of 80% of your last year’s salary with a COLA…the return would have to be 8%+ a year every year compounded, pension returns for the last 5 years have been 1% (Google it). Thus you are not funding your pension which when factored in as part of your salary puts you above the private sector which offers no defined benefit pensions. Please do the math, and you’ll see why I don’t want to pay more taxes to support over compensated public employees. Please do the math and let me know what return rate you get, will be far more than is being achieved putting us tax payers on the hook for your underfunded pension. And finally, if you are being underpaid, why don’t you move on to a higher paying company…because you are in fact compensated very well after all.
11:53 AM on 07/17/2012
Mr. Schaitberger lumps all public pensions together which misleads. Some public pensions are simply not sustainable while others are reasonable and still others are too low or non-existent. He's right when he notes that the phrase "unfunded liability" is very misleading. Here in Orange County California (hardly the wellspring of liberalism) police and firefighters often retire after less than 30 years with a pension of over 100,000. The law of supply and demand says that if thousands show up to apply for police and fire jobs, then we may be paying too much. In contrast, except in times of high unemployment, many teaching and educational administration jobs go begging. We need to investigate and reduce the highest pensions which are received by politicians, police and fire. They have become a privileged class and that must be corrected. My uncles and cousins are all firefighters. I'm a teacher. All of them have a vacation home. All have a boat. All have a recreational vehicle. All have enormous time off with pay. I have one house and virtually no "toys." I'm a teacher. I make substantially less money, will retire with a pension over 40% lower than the average Orange County Sheriff, and when I'm laid off every summer, there is no paycheck.

At the same time, Schaitberger is quite right about private pensions. When millions of retired Americans don't have enough to live out their lives in some dignity, there will be a political price to pay.
02:47 PM on 07/16/2012
The 5 myths are in the explanations. Public unions have dominated state and local budgets forever. 80% of the Wisconsin budget is essentially controlled by the unions. If you don't think the public pensions are an issue, you haven't checked in with California.
06:17 AM on 07/14/2012
Great article - the truth for a change. Wall Street propaganda against pensions is everywhere.
10:33 AM on 08/02/2012
Look who wrote it. Somebody with their own vested interest. You could hardly call this objective.
10:07 AM on 07/13/2012
I would say the 401k's are a way for Wall Street to laugh all the way to bank with common folks money. Not since the bull market of the '20's with folks buying on margin has the common man been so invested in the market and driving up stock prices for the 1%.

Defined contribution 401(k) plans were never intended to be a pension replacement for employees. They were originally created as a perk for highly paid executives, and were originally called “salary reduction plans” before being renamed for the tax code that makes them possible. The thinking was, the more these executives were paid, the more they could afford to contribute from their paychecks, and the more they had for retirement – on top of the old stand-by pension and Social Security. Another perk was that DC plans are portable – convenient for executives who company to company.

It all sounds pretty good when the markets are hot and delivering high returns, which is why so many Americans clamored to get in on the 401(k) action starting in the 1980s.

NEA did an article on WV that replaced pensions with 401k. The state actually lost money due to folks being in a risky financial situation with a 401k vs. a pension and would end up costing the state more money in public assistance rather than in pension costs., http://neatoday.org/2012/03/23/why-a-401k-is-no-replacement-for-a-pension/
04:04 PM on 07/16/2012
That is a great source. Thank you so much!
10:48 PM on 07/12/2012
Public pensions are overly generous (myth 4). Just look at myth 5.

If it takes a net 6% rate of return and $1000/month to get $40,000/yr in retirement, then a public sector worker gets $1,000,000 over their career in addition to wages and healthcare cost. The average family policy is around $15,000/yr. Together that is $32,000/yr of salary in addition to wages. Most private sector workers don't even get close to that.

Today interest rates are only 3% on a 30-yr bond. Also many public sector workers retire before 30 years of work. So the total value of the pension benefit may be well higher than $1,000,000.
04:14 PM on 07/16/2012
That assumes very unlikely things. First, it assumes that everyone lives to 87 years old. (One million divided by forty thousand a year equals 25 years after the minimum retirement of 62.) That obviously doesn't happen. Second, it assumes that people get 40,000 per year. The average public pension is more like 25,000 per year (I can't remember the exact amount. I think 25K might be slightly high.)

I work in a field in which you can work either public or private sector. The private sector jobs pay about 25K more per year than the public sector jobs that offer pensions. This seems about even to me.
02:00 AM on 07/23/2012
Defined benefit pensions in the private sector are very rare. Public employee that work for 20 years collect 80% of their slary in pensions with a COLA. These pensions are overly generous compared to the private sector and are bankrupting states and cities in California.
07:21 AM on 07/19/2012
But as reported here the average they are retiring on isn't 40K, it's 23K. Plus you're assuming they are all getting their health insurance paid for in full, when they may only be getting a lower group rate and/or receiving a 'cafeteria' pay benefit to apply to their insurance premium. The Calif. county I used to work for used to pay for our insurance in full but since costs kept rising now they don't, they only offer lower plan rates. They also used to pay for the entire retirement contribution but they've pulled the plug on that freebie too, first only on new employees, then later on all employees.
01:37 PM on 07/21/2012
Both shirley and mark have a point.  The average pension payout is closer to 23k.  Using 23k and 6% you get around $500/month in extra pay.  $6000/yr is about 11% of median pay in the US (~$52k).  Given the stagnant wages of middle-income US workers, it is still a highly valuable benefit.
There is a larger issue with pensions.  When the private sector runs out of money they stop hiring (or go bankrupt). When the gov't wants more teachers but does not want force people to pay more taxes now, they increase the deferred compensation (pension, healthcare, etc).  By pushing the cost in the future they get to play the good guys and not make any real choices.
Is this deferred compensation are even in the best interest of the public workers themselves (to mark's point)?  As we have seen on San Diego and San Jose, but also in countries like Greece when these promises get too big they get cut.  Wouldn't it be better to get more of your money now rather than trust the same politicians who will not raise taxes to pay the pension contributions?  If the gov't is not willing to give you the $500/month cash now, why would you think they would eventually pay-in-full later?
09:13 PM on 07/12/2012
Well maybe everybody should have a pension that is secure. Is that asking to much that people can pay their bills and not go on public assistance when they live out the last years of their life’s. 401ks do not work. They were never meant to be a only source of retirement and most people don’t know how to invest. They came about in the early 80's and business loved them because now they can take people out of pension plans and put them in 401ks which cost them very little to run. My dad had a regular pension form Aerospace and he didn’t even pay for it. The pension envy comes about because suddenly all these aging people that are posting were probably working in high pay jobs in the 90-early 2000's and would never take a 30-50 percent pay cut to work for the county. Some other people wanted to work for the common good and looked into the future that their was a secure pension even though they were not getting cars, bonuses and other perks of business. You are getting older and when you look at your 401k it is very scarey that you were really lied to that it would be a million dollars in 20 years.
09:11 PM on 07/12/2012
All these systems are set up so they have to be able to pay out to everybody that is employed a 100 percent of their pay the day they start with the county/state. Barely 10 percent make it a entire 30 years so they have to fund that they all work 30 years. It is like buying a house and having the money to pay it off the next day. OCERS has over 8 billion in reserve that they are not even using and pay out 350 million a year but bring in around 550 million. There is no problem, true the returns are lower because of the crazy stock market, but when they economy is stable you wont even hear about pensions. OCERS is at around 75 percent funded now but with a healthy economy can go way over 100 percent funded as it was in the early 2000's. I pay over 750 a month for my pension, it is very expensive and causes me very bad financial problems. It is funded 100 percent by the employees, it cost the taxpayer zero. We have not had a raise for over 5 years now and retirement medical is terrible.
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05:52 PM on 07/12/2012
My pension doesn't seem very transparent to me. I know it exists, and I know about what I'll get when I draw on it. As far as it's rate of return? A big black box.

With the 401(k), I know what I've put in. I know what my employer put in through the company match. I am in control of what investments are made. I know what stocks comprise the mutuel funds and ETF's that I've selected. The 401(k) seems pretty clear and straight foreword to me.
10:29 PM on 07/12/2012
I have a 403b and I enjoy playing around with the different stock options and I have done pretty well. Very few people have my knowledge of the market and I find most people dont even know what mutual funds they are in. So as a main source of retirement income it will not work for at least 95 percent of people out there. They need a source of income that they can count on and a 401k was never meant to be the only source. You will have many poor people that relied on a 401k and they will end up on public assistance. Better to give everybody a good pension then to pay for public assistance.
05:34 PM on 07/12/2012
The mortgage analogy is good but it could even be made stronger. The couple not only owes the $280,000 on the house but will also have to pay interest. Those attacking pensions include not only the dollars sums but an implicit. The stronger analogy would be the couple has an unfunded liability of say (half a million dollars) or whatever the terms of the mortgage would make it be.
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03:35 PM on 07/12/2012
Pension funds are the way retirement should be done... and the way it was done for many, many years.

The employee contributes.
The company contributes.
The contributions are invested into carefully-managed, low-risk portfolios.

When the economy is down the fund draws on incoming capital to meet its needs. When the economy is up the fund re-invests the excess to create padding for lean times.

The best part about pensions is that it creates a sense of company loyalty. The workers know that if they stick with the company and help it succeed they will be taken care of when they retire. It is a benefit that breeds unity and helps morale.

Of course, it also bites into the ability for the company to pay out millions of dollars to a handful of executives. And therein lies the problem.
11:49 AM on 07/12/2012
The only myth is that municipal and state pension funds will meet the 8 percent discount rate they promise. In the first quarter of this year funds were flat to Q1 2011, so they fell trillions of dollars further behind because promised benefits accrued with less money to pay them. And politicians are making this catastrophe worse by forcing funds into riskier investments when they should be shifting to safer investments. Those politicians betrayed taxpayers and public workers by using pension funds as secret lines of credit and troughs for feeding billions to contributors, cronies, insiders and themselves. Every state and municipal pension plan is in trouble as a result. Where were you while they were doing it? Bond rating agencies and bond lawyers are going to start ripping the lid off this cesspool. But the truth is going to come out one way or another, and this truth is ugly. Taxpayers with decimated 401ks aren't envious; they are desperate. Tax increases needed to pay public pensions will finish them off.
http://www.statebudgetsolutions.org/blog/detail/public-pension-infinite-amortization-puts-taxpayers-in-debt-forever
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09:35 AM on 07/12/2012
Point #3 is one every employee should look at (public or private). Most Americans missed the stock bull market of 2009-early 2012 for various reasons. There's no way to make that up now -compounding requires time and those who've been out the market since 2007-2008 cannot make it up.