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Posted: September 16, 2010 09:12 PM

Arianna appeared on PBS' "Newshour" with cohost Gwen Ifill Thursday night to discuss the ongoing "crumbling" of the nation's middle class and the threat of a slide toward "Third World America."

"I know it's a jarring phrase, Gwen, but I chose it deliberately because I felt that we needed a warning," Arianna said. "We needed to sort of sound the alarm about the trajectory we're on, about the middle class crumbling. And the middle class is the foundation, not just of our democracy and our prosperity but our political stability."

There is time to restore that stability, Arianna said, but the nation can't wait much longer. "We really have a certain time, a window during which we can course-correct and turn things around," she said. "And I end the book on an optimistic note that we can do that, but only if we bring a sense of urgency to the undertaking."

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Arianna appeared on PBS' "Newshour" with cohost Gwen Ifill Thursday night to discuss the ongoing "crumbling" of the nation's middle class and the threat of a slide toward "Third World America." "I ...
Arianna appeared on PBS' "Newshour" with cohost Gwen Ifill Thursday night to discuss the ongoing "crumbling" of the nation's middle class and the threat of a slide toward "Third World America." "I ...
 
 
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09:59 PM on 09/18/2010
Ariana is ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. Do we want to be Brazil? Now is the time. Decide!
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murphyj87
12:06 PM on 09/19/2010
Being like Canada would be a massive step by the U.S. toward being a part of the 21st century, as opposed to the current U.S. position of being in 1950 headed back to the 19th century. Canada is decades ahead of the United States in education, health care, banking & finance, and medical research and innovation. If Creep-ublicans take over the House and/or Senate in November, the United States will be moving even further back .... to the 18th century.... the total extent of U.S health care will soon be leeches and bleeding for any illness.
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lynettema
Little old lady
01:23 PM on 09/18/2010
"The way I see it is that we have to convince the middle class that to continue to vote for rw ideology whether put forth by Cons or Condems is what is eliminating the middle class.
The Tealiban is convinced it is liberal ideology that has brought this loss to our country. They are ready to move farther to the right, take rights away from people they find objectionable, change the Constitution to suit their beliefs, drown the gov't that could protect them from the excesses of the wealthy. I fail to understand how they will help the middle class in any possible fashion.
So unless somehow we can convince the minions that it is in their best interests to develop their democratic (Big D)credentials, there is no middle class.
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SiouxSayer
01:03 PM on 09/18/2010
Listen, most here know my story. Lost everything in the depression, house, car, wife, career, savings...dignity and self-esteem, etc....With over 20yrs experience in IT, Photography and journalism I thought a year of unemployment was a joke. Now, over 500 resumes out and perhaps 3 interviews later, I have just been dealt a kidney-punch. A week ago I found myself in my local Dollar store buying toiletries. Manager approached me and asked if I'd be interested in a part time cashier position...minimum wage, no bennies..etc. Of course, I jumped at the offer...I mean...it's a JOB right? Next day I get a phone interview...all is great...asked about my long term plans, what the job entailed, my commitment to loyalty, etc, etc....He said he'd run it past his manager and get back with me. A week later and nada...nothing.
ALL of that for a bottom of the food chain, 'can't-live-on-that-kind-of-wage-job' for a man who once ran his own business....
I have never been so depressed in my life. I am literally weeks away from being on the streets and I'm feeling pretty well done for. When I started my website for the plight of America's jobless, I had great hopes of at least being tapped to write for some publication. Hasn't happened.
Please visit and make a difference.

http://theincomepoop.wordpress.com
10:07 PM on 09/18/2010
I am so sorry. But people like us who are "losers"-- we still have a lot to give.

Remember the song, can't remember the name. Has the line: 'Wheelers and dealers, signing and sealing, and letting the chips just fall; ... knowing the price of all things--and the value of nothing at all."

Remember that: price is not value. I'm in the same boat. Give what you know is important, needed. Expect no reward.

I'm a writer too, hoping to give. And survive.

Hope you can make it.
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lynettema
Little old lady
12:32 PM on 09/18/2010
Are Arianna's ideas for bring back the middle class in her new book?
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Tyler James Lee
04:04 PM on 09/17/2010
My folks were serfs in the Ukraine for a few hundred years, and we have no intention of going back to that. But that is the goal of our owners and masters...
As for the middle class, there have always been those who directly served the master class. They were house servants (as opposed to us field hands), professionals, managers and overseers...in short, facilitators for the masters. Today we see these people rewarded for good and faithful service with high salaries and golden retirements, above all with enough wealth to ensure their admission to the class of owners and masters...I have no particular use for the middle class, and do not regret their demise if, in fact, that is in the offing. There will always, I think, be some form of it.
The losers in this game should understand that their own accepted capitalist philosophy demands their "destruction": the owners are simply cutting expensive overhead, getting "lean and mean", doing more with less (and all the other BS slogans you've accepted without question as long as it was happening to the working class). Depends on whose ox is gored, doesn't it?
03:29 PM on 09/17/2010
Why is it when someone talks about the trajectory America is heading that people immediately revert back to "Well Obama". How it crossed your mind that the American people are smarted than to choose partisan politics? Maybe Obama and the DEMS or the Tea Baggers and the REPUGS are not seen as the solution to our problems. Americans know that the Middle Class is being destroyed and it is systematic not democratic. I ask the top 1% after you bleed all the wealth from the Middle Class who will fight your Wars, win Gold Medals, buy your retail goods, cater to your laziness? Without the Middle Class welcome to a mediocre America, Third World in nature.
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earlyautumn
03:13 PM on 09/17/2010
15 Mind-Blowing Facts About Wealth And Inequality In America
How the rich have prospered at the expense of the middle class and poor.

http://www.businessinsider.com/15-charts-about-wealth-and-inequality-in-america-2010-4#now-read-16#ixzz0yihZxPsU

Gwen has become a very boring interviewer. Apparently she has spent too much time at public radio.
01:46 PM on 09/17/2010
Arianna is correct. The problem is that the criminal congress will nothing for others, only themselves.

You live in a nation that has absolutely no reliable justice system.

Have you had enough yet?
01:42 PM on 09/17/2010
What middle class.
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Trudy Trejo
Corporation = People = Romney = Obama = Perry = Cl
01:27 PM on 09/17/2010
One small question. If the Dems and Obama administration are sooooo concerned about the middle class then why is it that John P Holdren, Obama's Chief Technology Advisor says that they want to "de-industrialize" the USA which will destroy the middle class?

http://joannenova.com.au/2010/09/holdren-uses-free-market-to-get-back-to-stone-age

And why does Obama want energy rates to skyrocket? Is that concern for the poor and the middle class?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlTxGHn4sH4

Yeah, I thought so. The enviro-loonies want to stop industrial development in the US and are perfectly happy with impoverishing us all to achieve their dubious environmental goals.

Well guess what? China and other developing nations are not as stupid. If you're happy with China being the world's superpower then I guess there's no problem.
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Bloggerrogr
Thou shalt not whine
04:44 PM on 09/17/2010
Trudy;
Joanne Nova has no credentials to write any kind of essay about macroeconomics. Just because she wrote a book does not confer legitimacy or her premise. Anone with more than three functioning brain cells can realize that the current economic model is not viable. An ever-increasing world population coupled with a finite supply of natural resources is unsustainable in it's current configuration of "buy one, use it up, throw it away and buy a new one. What must be done is to "de-construct" that model and substitute a new model that is centered on renewable resources, such as wind, solar and geothermal.
There is only so much fossil fuel available and when that is gone, it's gone forever. In our ever-more-desperate quest for fossil fuels, we are now getting near the bottom of the barrel by mining tar sands, the dirtiest of all fossil technologies. From an energy-generational standpoint, these are the least efficient means of energy generation, requiring more energy input for unit of output.
Your right-wing dialectics reveals your bias. "...why does Obama want energy rates to skyrocket?" is a typical red herring that you right-wingers employ. President Obama wants  the true costs of energy to be visible in the marketplace so that the middle class can see how the fossil fuel industry is ripping us off. Subsidies to the Oil companies, the costs of war (blood and treasure) to protect vital oil sources in the middle east; all those are not perceived in the price at the pump. Perhaps if we realized that the true cost of a gallon of gas is closer to $15 than $3.50, we might realize that we have to make changes TODAY, so that there will be energy available TOMRROW.
And, yet, China is very smart about energy. China is investing over $793 billion over the next ten years and at the end of that process, China will not be dependent on oil, having made the necessary investment in renewable resources. Unless we change our approach and get away from fossil fuels, China will indeed by the world's superpower and we will have only our own shortsightedness to blame.
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Trudy Trejo
Corporation = People = Romney = Obama = Perry = Cl
05:00 PM on 09/17/2010
Guess what? The vast majority of US oil does NOT come from Iraq and Afghanistan. So there's a slight issue with your line of thinking there. The wars are not necessary to give us "cheap gas". They are wars of conquest and global dominance and have more strategic value in their proximity to Russia and Israel.

So fossil fuel energy should not be subsidized but "clean" energy should be subsidized even though it's not viable?

Your claims that we are nearing "peak oil" are debatable and oil reserves are not all going to dry up overnight so there will be a natural transition to other energy sources as demand and supply dictate.
12:51 PM on 09/17/2010
There must be some explaination for how a group of men on Wall Street who contribute little or nothing to the value chains of goods and services can enrich themselves obscenely, while the rest of the country languishes.”

exmate, MD, MBA
12:33 PM on 09/17/2010
Looking for ways out of this nightmare? Study E.F. Schumacher, Amory Louvins, Permaculture, the effort to strip corporations of their legally fictitious "personhood". Search terms like "sustainable community development".

More? Stop whatever economic and political behaviors you do that prop up, legitimize, feed the corporate/military/industrial/financial parasites. Boycott exploitation-driven, serfdom-cultivating mass consumption-based "e-con job-conomies; ignore "too big to fail" government, corporations, institutions, etc. Basically abandon the dominant paradigm's artificial status quo and you'll be able to watch it dwindle into irrelevancy.

In place of that travesty, capable people can set up and manage alternative, sustainable community systems. Community-based health care; community-supported agriculture; community public works; community-based education/mentoring; professional and skilled apprenticeships; small-scale community-based energy production; community constructed housing; communitywide bartering, banking and currency systems [Ithaca, NY's "time-dollars" model?] + the production of myriad other goods and services we need.

What's the model? In part, the relatively self-sustaining political, social and material economies of the (in retrospect) brilliant Western Hemisphere-based Native Tribal cultures; the better-managed Medieval European towns and cities (which were fairly small by "modern" standards) the more successful settlements of colonial US days, and the better examples of small town cultures of the 19th and early 20th century US.

We don't need to invent anything new. We know enough to combine from each of the "source" examples what works, thus improve existing systems in humanity-sustaining, Earth-respecting and rational ways.
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popart
retired school teacher
02:22 PM on 09/17/2010
never work.....can't change human nature....people are the problem.....
02:51 PM on 09/17/2010
Fanned and thank you. I couldn't agree more.
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12:28 PM on 09/17/2010
We don't need to be saved, thank you.
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GravitonX
10^300 bosons could care less.
12:19 PM on 09/17/2010
Who cares about the "middle class?" No more keeping up with the Jones' on credit cards...Oh No!
12:00 PM on 09/17/2010
Arianna is exactly right about a strong Middle Class being the anchor of political stability. What the Billionaires who are bleeding this country dry fail to recognize is that in a French style Revolution, it is their heads that go (literally) on the chopping block.