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Posted: March 16, 2010 04:21 PM

Arianna, Phil Angelides Discuss Financial Reform Legislation With Dylan Ratigan (VIDEO)

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Arianna appeared on Dylan Ratigan's MSNBC show this afternoon, all with Phil Angelides, the chair of the Financial Crisis Commission, to discuss whether Washington is capable of producing financial reform that will prevent big Wall Street banks from recklessly putting the entire system at risk.

Citing Tom Friedman, Arianna noted that in Washington

We have these major problems but we are only geared to produce sub-optimum solutions. We are constantly producing these sub-optimum solutions and they are not going to be good enough because the financial architecture is so flawed that unless we fundamentally change it, as even Chris Dodd admitted, we are not going to eliminate the possibility of a future meltdown of the magnitude that we faced before. And unless we deal with derivatives, and we really regulate derivatives and basically end the casino gambling -- what will happen is the casino gambling leads once again to the major meltdown that we faced in '08.

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Arianna appeared on Dylan Ratigan's MSNBC show this afternoon, all with Phil Angelides, the chair of the Financial Crisis Commission, to discuss whether Washington is capable of producing financial re...
Arianna appeared on Dylan Ratigan's MSNBC show this afternoon, all with Phil Angelides, the chair of the Financial Crisis Commission, to discuss whether Washington is capable of producing financial re...
 
 
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TJCole
03:11 AM on 03/17/2010
All we had to do was Nationalize the Major Corrupt Banks and Reform them from Within...also find out where the bottom really is..pass or reinstate Regulations, and start acting like Responsible Grown-ups...!

Greenspan and Rubin were completely irresponsible spoiled babies...Paulson too, and Geither and Bernanke just their understudies...

This could have almost really been fixed by now but Obama just couldn't do the right thing and listened to losers like Larry Summers who nearly bankrupted his alma mater...Harvard...
02:25 AM on 03/17/2010
Helpful and fair reforms are not rocket science; we have proven systems for all we need which could be immediately implemented.

Schemers and liars use long complicated documents for cheating suckers.

Financial, health care, energy reforms and all legislation have now become scams for ripping off consumers and the Treasury.

Government bailouts of Wall Street and succeeding laws which jacked up credit card and other financial costs for consumers have been devastating.

Until we have fair and honest systems we will be unable to reform anything.

Financial, Wall Street and Government Clean Up Reforms

Establish an Elizabeth Warren version of the Consumer Financial Protection Agency, reinstate Glass-Steagle, which successfully protected banks and their customers for fifty years before its repeal in 1999, repeal Grahm-Leach-Bliley which allows the unbridled use of financial schemes of mass destruction, repeal the unlimited Christmas guarantees given to Fannie and Freddie, enact the pending legislation to audit the Fed, and make AIG’s records available for public review.

Put Eliot Spitzer in charge of an agency of Untouchables to perform hard nosed audits and investigations which will ascertain what roll criminal activity had in the destructive behavior which has decimated individual wealth, political fairness, and the United States Treasury.
12:05 AM on 03/17/2010
I'm amazed that liberals think that government can do a better job. what program has the government not made a mess of? social security, medicare are bankrupt. more government interference spells disaster.
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LizM
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12:30 AM on 03/17/2010
Yeah, you're right .... especially after conservatives have tried with such cunning to make a mess of government. Funny how that vicious circle works, isn't it?

Come to think of it, that vicious circle is why the American political culture is so dysfunctional today.
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01:12 AM on 03/17/2010
It's amazing that you won't see how Wall street is milking you and every American out of their retirements and pensions. Don't you think it is even questionable that everyone's retirement is tied to Wall Street? Don't you question why republicans want to privatize Social Security? Don't you wonder what would happen if private insurance companies took over medicare? Are you even looking at both sides of the issue?
11:24 PM on 03/16/2010
but our financial architecture is capitalism....so restructure to what an enforceable moral/ethical capitalism ?....you know,the one without the greed factor.
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02:46 AM on 03/18/2010
Greenspan said there was nothing wrong with the derivatives market, it's just that people got greedy. So he was working with an economic model that didn't account for human nature.
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11:02 PM on 03/16/2010
Plutonomy: Buying Luxury, Explaining Global Imbalances
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In his new movie, "Capitalism: A Love Story," Michael Moore describes two leaked Citigroup memos to its wealthiest investors and I couldn't resist finding them online. I've provided the links below:

http://jdeanicite.typepad.com/files/6674234-citigroup-oct-16-2005-plutonomy-report-part-1.pdf

http://jdeanicite.typepad.com/files/6674229-citigroup-mar-5-2006-plutonomy-report-part-2-1-1.pdf

For those of you who think Capitalism is working, take a look at these and then ask yourself, "For who is it working?"

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http://iv-time.blogspot.com/2010/03/plutonomy-buying-luxury-explaining.html
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06:55 AM on 03/18/2010
I've read the first part of the first one. I was struck by the detached, academic attitude. Statements of facts and conclusions, amoral. But money is about money.

But capitalism has advantages, like individual incentive. Those who worship free market refuse to see that it also tends toward certain consequences, like the consolidation of wealth and power. If that's not wanted, a force external to the market has to intervene - that would be government. If values other than money are wanted, like being environmentally responsible, a force external to the market (government) has to intervene.

I see the adamant ignorance of free market worshipers as a big problem in this country. Those who refuse to see that free market has disadvantages, shortcomings, consequences, etc.
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07:10 AM on 03/18/2010
Let me add:

The limitations, etc., of free market define possible government roles in the economy.
This means they also define what financial system reform should be.
At least this seems to make sense conceptually. I don't know how it would work in practice.
10:57 PM on 03/16/2010
To hear some people describe taxes, high prices and health care, it sounds like a part of them has been amputated or one of their children has been kidnapped.They are the impoverished of spirit and soul. The biggest complainers are only complaining about a lack of adequate dishonesty that favors them.
There is however, a problem that they point to, however stupidly. It is about freedom and liberty but it is more basic than any disgruntled and impotent individual portrays it. It can be solved in a genuine democracy; it is about who keeps the books, how they are kept and what is valuable.
People must force politicians to enact public financing of political campaigns. That is the only way that elected officials will support voters instead of perpetuating autocratic and failed institutions like banks, insurance companies, the Defense Department and Treasury.
Conservatives have no role in a democracy or in American government. All they want is power and to destroy all that gets in their way. They are in an all out war to rule, we are in a struggle for humanity, human rights, social justice and the realities of a complex civilization.
All that the tories mean by small government is that it will be easier for them to be in control and to ignore reality.
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LizM
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10:32 PM on 03/16/2010
If you are really interested in making sure that muscular financial reforms are enacted, then it is time to support Secretary Geithner's efforts to both strengthen Senator Dodd's bill and prevent anyone from weakening it.

By the way, anyone who has been following the treasury secretary's efforts would know that this bill is not as strong as he would like it to be. And so, he could use a little support from everyone who says they are in favor of a strong financial regulatory regime.


Here's Geithner's statement on financial reform upon the release of Dodd's bill.
"This is a strong bill. We hope the Committee and the Senate will move forward quickly to pass comprehensive reform. We need a strong, independent consumer financial protection agency that is accountable for setting and enforcing clear rules across the financial marketplace. And we need strong authority to limit risk-taking and protect the taxpayer. Enacting reform will help reduce uncertainty about the rules of the road going forward. Passing strong reforms here at home will also give us the ability to put in place a level playing field internationally, with high standards. As the President said, as the bill moves forward, we will take every opportunity to work with Chairman Dodd and his colleagues to strengthen the bill and will fight against efforts to weaken it." ... Treasury Secretary Geithner
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shivasquest
10:30 PM on 03/16/2010
Shorting America Rocks!

Another Janet Tavakoli piece, this one about the market for CDS on the United States.

I’d like someone to explain to me how trading a credit default swap on a U.S. Treasury note isn’t gambling. This is purely betting on crowd behavior — after all, nobody really thinks the U.S. will default.

It’s weird enough living in a country where a man can legally own an arsenal of machine guns, but his neighbor growing a pot plant will send a team of DEA agents kicking his door in with a no-knock warrant.

But this goes even beyond that. If I go online today to HaveNoLifeAndBetOnSports.com and bet fifty dollars on the Bucks against the Celtics tonight, I’m a criminal. But some gazillionaire firm in New York can legally bet against the United States of America in unlimited amounts in a trade that has nothing to do with anything, but a guess about how many other people will make the same bet.


Geesus, are we a weird country.

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Tom95134
09:43 PM on 03/16/2010
Nothing illegal here... move along, move along.

Seriously, if these investigators really do their job they are very likely to find that evenyone was playing the Repo 105 two-step dance.

I suspect that the very companies that were making the most use of this loophole are the very companies that spent the most amount of money lobbying to get the Repo 105 loophole written into the law. I'm sure that the reaction of the companies using this loophole )which will probably be all of them) will be reminiscent of Captain Renault in Casablanca, "I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!"
09:43 PM on 03/16/2010
Just three words, vote out incumbents. You won't get real reform from the current crop. They are part of the problem and will continue to be until they are gone. We have term limits, it's called voting.
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clearthinker16
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10:04 PM on 03/16/2010
that is not the problem. the problem is the money the banks control and how it can and does effect legislation. eliminate all lobbyists to start with, then Congressional double dipping as consultants, make anyone who leaves a job on Capitol hill be banned for life from any lobbying, advising or whatever to the hill.
09:27 PM on 03/16/2010
As a distant observer, it is astonishing U.S. tax payers have been fooled into thinking the failure of AIG would have been catastophic by undermining confidence in the financial system. In essence, this veil of deception allowed a Coup d'etat of the U.S. Government and Treasury by the banking system elite to pay off GS.

It is undeniable that politicians in Washington D.C. have been bought and sold for years by financial lobbyists in favor of Wall Street's interests at the expense of U.S. tax payers for many generations to come.

A most glaring abdication of duty by U.S. politicians indeed! (i.e.,.Paulson, Richard Shelby, Chris Dodd, Barney Frank, Geitner, Bernake, and both the Clinton and Bush Administrations, etc...).

One must ask the question who was responsible for supervising and overseeing the behavior of AIG and Wall St. firms while U.S. politicians basically rolled the dice in providing subsidized housing (i.e., Fannie/Freddie via Clinton's State of the Union Address)?

From the U.S. tax payer viewpoint, the actions of U.S. politicians and Wall St. are totally indefensible and is the apotheosis of utter incompetence, greed, and arrogance!

The smell of this egregious behavior by Wall St. and the U.S. permeates from Shanghai to Dubai!
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10:04 PM on 03/16/2010
Not to worry my good man. We found the very people who built this engine of our destruction and put them in charge of making sure it doesn't harm anyone again! Next we found the miscreants who did the damage and paid them billions of taxpayer money so in the future they'd be so grateful they'll never harm us again!

Once again, the USA was just too exceptional to suffer any real harm!

Thanks for your concern but we're handling it in our own fashion!
10:47 PM on 03/16/2010
FYI....The Chinese have absolutely no intentions in allowing corrupt bankers and financiers from Wall Street to control their money, and they are laughing at the so called "Great Democracy of the U.S." while buying up precious resources from all over the world!

As one top Chinese Economist said today: Where ever there is wealth in the U.S., the corrupt bankers and financiers of Wall St. will find a way to steal it! They're coming again soon. So, remember this: The invisible hand is more important than the unhidden hand!
09:25 PM on 03/16/2010
The extent of the financial system’s influence has been veiled for too long behind all the gobbledygook of its enablers in the media and, most especially, its enablers in government. Only now are people seeing, even ever so slightly, the true extent of the influence…and how terrifying its reach. Seemingly burrowed so deep within the fabric of American Democracy that one needs question whether America is really and truly a reflection of its founders’ hopes for the country, or whether America has, in truth, been hijacked and is being held for ransom – that to remove the p@arasite would effectively end the life of its host.
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09:18 PM on 03/16/2010
Any half-wit auditor knows how to read a balance sheet. Easy to hide liabilities as sales; easy to figure out. I'm thinking the auditors and regulators are bought and paid for, or being kept completely overwhelmed. This is sick.
09:11 PM on 03/16/2010
FRACTIONAL RESERVE LENDING IS FRAUD.
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LiberalMom95
09:09 PM on 03/16/2010
I just cashed out my 401k to pay off my 25% interest rate credit cards. I have excellent credit and like most people, my rates were raised, just because the banks felt like it. When I originally opened one of my credit card accounts, the rate was Prime plus 1. The others were Prime plus 4 or 5. None of these were introductory rates either. I just decided that I'd rather pay the 20% tax and 10% fee to the feds and 9% to my state than pay the banks 25% interest. I feel really good about this. I know, all the financial experts would disagree with this decision. I'm just so incredibly happy to not be a source of the banking industry's profits anymore. From now on, my family is going old school. We'll save up the money to buy large purchases, just like my grandparents did. No more immediate gratification, except the gratification that we're not supporting the banking industry anymore and the money we save on interest can go into our own Roth IRA which will be invested in ethical companies and funds.
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09:24 PM on 03/16/2010
I say we all go back to an all cash and carry society. Bypass the banks completely. Have employers pay their employees in cash.

The government would have a hard time keeping up with tax cheats and some banks would go under. I'd doubt I'd lose any sleep over it. Some will say you would be at more risk of being robbed but I'd rather take my chances of being robbed on the street than by the government and the banks.

I'm willing to go back to the basics as far as we can.