Indiana, North Carolina Primaries: Voters Get Ready To Settle Remaining Contests

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LIZ SIDOTI and CALVIN WOODWARD | May 6, 2008 09:06 AM EST | AP

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Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., grimaces as Helen Matta of New Burn, N.C. kisses her while she snaps their picture at a rally in Greenville, N.C. Monday, May 5, 2008. (AP Photo/Elise Amendola)

EVANSVILLE, Ind. — Voters in Indiana and North Carolina crowded polling places Tuesday as they sought to settle the largest remaining contests in the Democratic presidential nomination struggle between Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton that has dragged improbably into spring.

In Indiana, Marion County Clerk Beth White said many voters already were in line when polls opened at 6 a.m.

"We really do feel today is going to be a heavy voting day, and our inspectors are ready," said White, the clerk in Indiana's most populous county.

Even before the opening of polls at 6:30 a.m. in North Carolina, there were signs of record turnout. Nearly half a million people had already cast early and absentee ballots as of Monday _ more than half the total number of voters who cast a ballot during the 2004 primary.

"I can't remember a primary that had this much excitement," said Gary Bartlett, director of the North Carolina Board of Elections. "It's truly fun to be part of making history, and I hope that this encourages voters to participate in all primary elections."

Like marathoners on their second wind, Obama and Clinton had raced for advantage until the final hours of the campaign for the primaries in the two states.

There was little if any expectation that the primaries would settle the big, messy picture. Both Clinton and Obama predicted they'd still be campaigning in June.

Obama began Tuesday by dropping in on the Four Seasons Family Restaurant in the Greenwood, Ind., a suburb of Indianapolis. He walked around shaking hands, then sat at the counter and had an omelet, chatting with patrons on either side.

"I feel good," Obama said when asked about the day's voting. "I think we've campaigned hard. I think it's going to be close. I'm seeing a lot of enthusiasm."

Clinton, at her scrappiest when her campaign is on the line _ which it has been for weeks _ brought a full-throated roar to a series of events Monday in a day of frantic travel spilling into the wee hours Tuesday.

A wealthy inside-Washington veteran, the former first lady worked hard to make common cause with blue-collar voters crucial to Tuesday's outcome.

"I do see you, I do hear you," she told supporters in Merrillville, Ind., speaking outside the local fire station as a dozen firefighters looked down on her from the fire truck behind her.

She pressed her proposal for a federal gas tax holiday that Obama has dismissed as a gimmick, one of the few issues where the two Democrats clearly diverge.

"It's a stunt," the Illinois senator said in Evansville. "It's what Washington does."

Obama's stance was backed up by 230 economists who released a letter Monday opposing the temporary tax break, which would take 18.4 cents off the price of a gallon if consumers got the full savings at the pump. The signers included four Nobel Prize winners and economic advisers to presidents of both parties.

Clinton shrugged off the blistering reviews from policy makers, industry experts and editorial writers.

"I believe we should start standing up for the majority of Americans who are paying the outrageous gas prices," Clinton said. "I'm ready to take on the oil companies."

Obama hurtled from Indiana to North Carolina and back.

"I want your vote. I want it badly," he pleaded on a factory floor in Durham, N.C., one of many settings drawing the working-class voters he needs.

Obama capped his day with a rain-soaked, get-out-the-vote rally in Indianapolis featuring Motown legend Stevie Wonder, followed by a visit to a factory for the midnight shift change.

Standing at the gates outside the Auto Components Holding plant, partly owned by Ford, Obama shook hands one-by-one with employees as they left. "If I got your vote, it would mean a lot," Obama told them.

"We need all the help we can get here. They're trying to close us down," one worker told Obama.

The plant, once owned entirely by Ford, makes steering components. It employs 1,200 workers _ roughly half of them on the Ford payroll _ and is scheduled to be shut down at the end of 2010, said Jim Lewis, United Auto Workers president at the plant.

Dual victories by Obama would all but knock Clinton out of the race. Polls, however, have found a small edge for the New York senator in Indiana. Obama remains the favorite in North Carolina, though his lead has shrunk.

Altogether, 187 delegates are at stake in the two states, nearly half the pledged delegates left with eight primaries to go before voting ends in a month.

North Carolina and Indiana cannot mathematically settle the nomination. A candidate needs 2,025 delegates to win, and Obama had 1,745.5 to Clinton's 1,608 Monday.

The key to the nomination is held by superdelegates, party leaders who aren't bound by the outcome of state contests. About 220 are still undecided.

Despite a rash of recent troubles and his loss to Clinton in the big Pennsylvania primary two weeks ago, Obama has continued to nibble away at Clinton's lead in superdelegates. He picked up two from Maryland on Monday, leaving him trailing Clinton 269-255.

Clinton's main hope is to persuade most of the still-neutral superdelegates to disregard his lead in the delegate chase and support her instead. Her campaign also hopes to get a boost by getting delegates from Michigan and Florida seated.

Obama easily outspent Clinton in both states while outside supporters threw big money into the contest, too.

The Service Employees International Union, which is backing Obama, spent about $1.1 million in the state, much of it on ads. The American Leadership Project, which has received most of its money from labor groups backing Clinton, spent more than $1 million on ads in Indiana that questioned Obama's economic policies.

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Calvin Woodward reported from Washington. Associated Press Writers Tom Davies in Indianapolis and Gary D. Robertson and Mike Baker in Raleigh, N.C., contributed to this report.

 
 

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Where the hell is Mayhill Fowler??? Talk about putting one's foot in one's mouth. She must be gagging, too embarassed to come out of hiding.

Hopefully, this will be the end of her travelogues.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha bwa ha ha ha ha !!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 AM on 05/09/2008

Ha -- her mission has been foiled -- she must be mad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 AM on 05/09/2008

YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST!!! I called the places in NC where Barack would wipe the floor with Hillary and what happened? It all came to past. I know my state and I know the people! GOBAMA!!!

Wake County (Raleigh) - Obama
Durham County - Obama
Forsyth County (Winston-Salem) - Obama
Guilford County (Greensboro) - Obama

Why did he pull out a 14-16% win? Because phone polling cannot and will not accurately reflect what these voters will do!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 AM on 05/07/2008

Isn't it over yet? It should be. Hillary barely squeaks a victory in Indiana (or did she - we won't know for a while) and got hammered in North Carolina. Go Heels!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 PM on 05/06/2008

Haha Hillary basically begging for money in her speech.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 PM on 05/06/2008

ROTFLMAO, after pulling in $109,000,000 for the past 7 years; yeah, I would really give her my hard earned money. Please I am going to use that to put gas in my car this summer. Isn't she the one so concerned about me having to pay for gas; where is her compassion now?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 AM on 05/07/2008

Yes - saying 'full steam ahead to the White House' and that the race between she and Obama is close! WTF she IS delusional!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 PM on 05/06/2008

Bill, standing behind her, looks like he's seriously thinking of coming out tomorrow and endorsing Senator Obama. He knows by her uncompromising speech that she is putting the final nail into trashing his legacy. Wow. Watching a marriage at work. He looks positively grim.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 PM on 05/06/2008

we want our sen. hillary clinton who is our queen elizabeth for our time we will not vote for obama.....................

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 PM on 05/06/2008

Patch too bad - that is one of Hilliary's big problem - she thinks she is a queen and owed the nomination. Sorry you can't vote for Obama - I hope you enjoy McBush as our next president if more folks stick with your sentiment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 PM on 05/06/2008

obama needs to sleep now for at least 2 days...

man, i feel s sorry for him...he looked way too tired.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 PM on 05/06/2008


Hey y'all in North Carolina (and it's looking more like Indiana too), I'm in the mood for a beer; can I buy you a drink?? You deserve it!

THANK YOU for doing your part in helping to choose our next President of the United States!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 PM on 05/06/2008

a beer, eh? sounds good. can you buy hillary a ticket outta here? the lights are fading on her...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 05/06/2008

pop pop pop popular vote just popped away hillary...

obama can easily afford to give her florida AND michigan now...

pledged delegates? lost, since long ago

superdelegates? they came to him in a ratio of 10:1 in the last weeks...

now what hillary?

do you have anymore dirt or sand to throw in the eyes of the american voters?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 PM on 05/06/2008

Here it goes again, Harold Ford is talking about Hillary on the ticket.
No, no, no. His agenda would be underminded by Billary and he would be dead by the end of 2009.
Please, Obama, don't do it no matter how much Billary's supporters twist your arm.
You can get a blue collar like running mate that will attract the working class white vote.
You don't need Hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 PM on 05/06/2008

I am so glad someone finally brought Harold Ford up. I have been trying to squeeze him in for weeks and just couldn't find the appropriate spot. Harold Ford had been put on the media map by Don Imus pushing his cause. He lost his race for the senate, despite Imus, and is back in the media because a fellow African American is running for president. My take on Harold these days is that he is embittered and intensely jealous of Obama. He has continually spoken out for Hillary recently with a sour look on his handsome face. I do not think Barack Obama, having been proven to be a brilliant guy, would even think about Hillary as a running mate. She would do the same thing to Obama that the egotistical John Edwards did to Kerry - go and rant about herself and her own deeds. I wouldn't put it past her to sabotage Obama's win. She would stab Obama in the back sooner than later. AND, I hope he won't give a nod to Edwards either. That dude lost twice on his own and was no help to Kerry who also lost. He's wannabe cabinet member.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 AM on 05/07/2008

Obama / Richards sounds good to me ... or is it Richardson? oh-well it still sounds good to me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 PM on 05/06/2008

I've been seeing that too, I agree no Clinton on the ticket.

WTF is up with people, don't they think our country can survive without a Bush or Clinton in the whitehouse? It's time to clean OUR house and get the bushes and clintons out of it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 PM on 05/06/2008

No, Mr. Ford. No Clinton on the ticket. America is turning the page.

For months I've said that Senator Clinton could do herself the biggest favor by dropping out of the race gracefully SO THAT she could earn the honor of being President Obama's first Supreme Court nominee. On the Court she could have an outstanding career protecting and defending the Constitution and, based on her attacks on Senator Obama of the last weeks, I feel sure that Antonin Scalia would have the intellectual heft to occasionally bring her down to earth.

Seriously, I do think she can be trusted in that group of 9 to support the Constitution, it gives her her own career separate from Bill, and there's not a Justice on the bench who'll put up with Bill's secret backroom arm-twisting. I actually see the Court as President Obama's gift to Hillary of being free of Bill at last.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 05/06/2008

harry ford is by the way talking BS.

how can any of the democratic fat cats look obama in the eyes and ask him do do this?

a woman as a runnign mate, who stood with big eyes at this abc debate and talked about wright and brought the name farrakhan in the game?

trying to connect him to another "BAD" BLACK MAN?

while there was absolutely no connection, while her surrogate ed rendell was praising farrakhan and the nation of islam? google youtube to see the video of rendell.

bigotry at perfection. disgusting.

how can anybody ask him to call her vor VP, when she has treated him so offensive and so badly?
they are so different.

he has dignity, moral and ideals and she is nothing but a predator.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 PM on 05/06/2008

if he does this, he will definetly need a good food tester as the media always say.

i think his best running mate would be ron paul.

that would be a real dream ticket. becasue he is the only honest republican.

paul already said, he would prefer him as president over all the others.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 PM on 05/06/2008

Come on, Obama!

The last thing this country needs is another replay of the damn "southern strategy."

Dems: let's be done with pandering to racists!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 PM on 05/06/2008

msnbcs chuck todd says that there are still large african american precincts not counted and that he still can win indiana..

go figure that.

well, that would be definetly the end of hillrod.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 PM on 05/06/2008

Last time I checked, the entire Chicago area of Indiana had yet to report a single vote- once this comes in, we'll know.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 PM on 05/06/2008

uh.... where is this chicago indiana you speak of?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 PM on 05/06/2008

Gary, South Bend, East Chicago, all in IN. Or Geographically, the four or five closest counties to Chicago, IL.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 PM on 05/06/2008

The northwest corner. It's Chicago suburbs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 PM on 05/06/2008

It's time for Hillary to stop her attacks and suspend. She will do herself and the party much good by ending now and begin working to elect Obama.
She has to do everything she can to switch the debate to how we can best beat McCain and the republican machine in the fall.
This primary season has run its course and the results are in. There is now way that she can mathimatically win this nomination, without using the "nuclear" option.
Do the right thing Hillary, suspend and endorse!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 PM on 05/06/2008

Check out this site http://www.270towin.com/

There are a lot of "fly over" states that buttholes on the coasts don't like to pretend matter at all. Obama has a chance to win Nebraska, Colorado, North Dakota, and Iowa (which has often gone democratic... actually they went democratic in 88, 92, 96, and 00... 04-- I think that it was rigged). These states would negate a traditional "battle ground" state like Ohio. I think that Obama really offers something that people like.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 PM on 05/06/2008

Donna Brazille is really getting after it. I love her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 PM on 05/06/2008

I'd like to punch Paul Begala really hard in his forehead, while wearing my largest cocktail ring.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 05/06/2008


HHHHAAAAAAA!! You think that you could put a dent in that phony smile of his while you're at it?? ( Wouldn't want you to crack that ring....)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 PM on 05/06/2008

Here is the math for Billary supporters:

IF Obama holds 63% margin in North Carolina, he would net about 31 delegates.

If he loses Indiana by 10%, he would lose net of 6 delegates.

So combining PA, NC and IA Primaries, Obama comes ahead by 13 delegates.

Also, if she nets 40-60K votes in Indiana and he netes 200K-250K. There is also a descent chance that he would have larger Popular Vote lead than he had before Pennsylvania.

I don't think you would hear too much from Hillary's camp about Popular Vote Metric now, because from this point onwards, its mathemetical impossibility that she overtakes, even with Florida counted.

Go home and bake cookies now!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 PM on 05/06/2008

yeah, go home and bake cookies... in the kitchen, because you can stand the heat hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 PM on 05/06/2008

Now would be a good time for Hillary to show some class & drop out. Stop the amoral Rush Limbaugh robots from trying to wreck our party.

President Barack Obama!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 PM on 05/06/2008

Watching MSNBC it's all about the "if"....
Ridiculous

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 PM on 05/06/2008

I would like to "speculate" that they all do that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 PM on 05/06/2008

YES WE DID!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 PM on 05/06/2008