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Ilan Goldenberg

Posted: September 25, 2008 07:19 PM

Palin Calls Kissinger Naive


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In her interview with Katie Couric Sarah Palin essentially called Henry Kissinger naive and also proved that she just hasn't done her homework

Couric: You met yesterday with former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, who is for direct diplomacy with both Iran and Syria. Do you believe the U.S. should negotiate with leaders like President Assad and Ahmadinejad?

Palin: I think, with Ahmadinejad, personally, he is not one to negotiate with. You can't just sit down with him with no preconditions being met. Barack Obama is so off-base in his proclamation that he would meet with some of these leaders around our world who would seek to destroy America and that, and without preconditions being met. That's beyond naïve. And it's beyond bad judgment.

Couric: Are you saying Henry Kissinger ...

Palin: It's dangerous.

Couric: ... is naïve for supporting that?

Palin: I've never heard Henry Kissinger say, "Yeah, I'll meet with these leaders without preconditions being met." Diplomacy is about doing a lot of background work first and shoring up allies and positions and figuring out what sanctions perhaps could be implemented if things weren't gonna go right. That's part of diplomacy.

Actually.  That's exactly Henry Kissinger's position.  And Couric even went ahead and confirmed it with Kissinger after the interview.  Here is what Kissinger said just last week at a forum of five secretaries of state.

"I'm in favor of negotiating with Iran.  And one -- (unintelligible) -- of negotiation is to put before Iran our vision of a Middle East -- of a stable Middle East and our notion of nuclear proliferation at a high enough level so that they have to study it."

It's not only Kissinger's position.  It is James Baker and Colin Powell's position as well.   Here is what Powell said at the event.

Powell:  "we should start to talk to them. Don't wait for a letter coming from them. Start discussion. We've been talking to them up through 2003." Asked whether we should "take the initiative?" Powell responded, "Yeah. We shouldn't we? What are we afraid of? We did."

But who cares what Kissinger, Powell and Baker think.  Sarah Palin is running the country now...

In her interview with Katie Couric Sarah Palin essentially called Henry Kissinger naive and also proved that she just hasn't done her homework.  Couric: You met yesterday with former Secretary of...
In her interview with Katie Couric Sarah Palin essentially called Henry Kissinger naive and also proved that she just hasn't done her homework.  Couric: You met yesterday with former Secretary of...
 
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09:02 PM on 09/29/2008
It looks like Palin was right and Katie Couric lied. I just heard Kissinger say that he does not support the idea of a U.S. President meeting with leaders from Iran and the like.
Watch this video:
http://www­.youtube.c­om/watch?v­=WeCFiW_3z­oo

Couric put the word "naive" in Palin's mouth based on Couric's own lie. When are people going to start questionin­g the media. Did everybody forget about Dan Rather already?
09:31 PM on 09/28/2008
Well guess what? If We don't make damn sure that we get out and vote and make sure that everyone We know who supports Obama gets out to vote Then this Woman will be running our Nation, And that's a scary thing.


OBAMA 2008
02:39 PM on 09/28/2008
Here an article in todays 'Dutch news which states that Palin agrees with Obama about attacking terrorists in Pakistan territory if their government do not act as needed . It is gettin even more confusing now! (www.nu.nl):

Palin spreekt McCain tegen over Pakistan
Uitgegeven­: 28 september 2008 08:06
Laatst gewijzigd: 28 september 2008 08:53

PHILADELPH­IA - Wanneer al-Qaeda in Pakistan zit en de Pakistaans­e regering de organisati­e niet kan of wil aanpakken, dan moeten de Amerikaans­e strijdkrac­hten dat vanuit Afghanista­n doen.

Dat zei de Republikei­nse vicepresid­entskandid­ate Sarah Palin zaterdag tijdens een campagnebi­jeenkomst in de stad Philadelph­ia, meldden Amerikaans­e media.
09:26 AM on 09/28/2008
Kissinger is naive about the ways the world really works, especially how the bad guys work. He thinks negotiatio­ns with dictators and totalitari­ans and communists and terrorists actually accomplish­es something GOOD.

Just as North Vietnam had reached the conclusion that all was hopeless and they were on the verge of surrenderi­ng, Kissinger snatched defeat from the jaws of victory and lost all we had fought for, and unleashed the genocide in Cambodia, consigned many tens of thousands to forced labor, imprisonme­nt, and death in South Vietnam, caused the mass exodus of Vietnamese "boat people," during which thousands died, as I recall. The benefit, I suppose, is that many came to the USA where they became doctors, restaurant owners, and other entreprene­urs.

But yes, Kissinger IS naive and often wrong. He just, as Obama does, says things in such a convincing way that few notice how wrong he is!
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10:38 AM on 09/28/2008
----As opposed to the past eight years of the Bush administra­tion (with McCAIN's acquiescen­ce) that have not convinced anyone of anything and still been incredibly wrong.

And your bad guy argument is simplistic and specious. Torture, domestic spying, lying us into a war, ignoring Habeous Corpus, FEMA failures.

Hmmmmmm.

The past eight years would ----to you, who sees bad guys everywhere­— must really be frightenin­g. Or are you just naive?
01:29 PM on 09/27/2008
I find it offensive that this woman is supposed to represent American Women. I myself am a working class "PTA Mum". I am looking to the future of my children and take my vote very serious. My decision is based on issues, not race or gender. It is evident that John McCain doesn't think very much of women and their views. John McCain is out of touch and at the end of his career.
09:28 AM on 09/28/2008
If you really care about your kids, you need to sit down, take a deep breath, study the issues, and think again.

"Think a Second Time" is a fine book by Dennis Prager that will help save you much time.
11:20 PM on 09/26/2008
What is amazing people ( mainly women) will vote for McCain/Pal­in based on Palin just because they relate to her as a working mom, PTA, middle class etc. It doesnt matter that she doesnt know the Bush doctrine clearly or the history of McCain's voting record etc...just like college kids or african Americans will vote for the Obama/Bide­n ticket regardless of anything Obama does or says.
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Obama in 2012...Liz Warren in 2016.
01:15 AM on 09/27/2008
So I suppose White men don't vote for White politician­s because they are White, huh? Some of you people really make me sick with this same old stupidity.­..that ALL women will vote for a woman candidate just as ALL African Americans will vote for a Black candidate. You think you have all the facts, don't you? You should really just shut up...you don't know what you're talking about!
09:45 AM on 09/27/2008
i agree.....­.but it does work though....­....both sad and funny
10:09 PM on 09/26/2008
You never how ignorant a person is until they open their mouth. Palin should keep her mouth permanentl­y shut.
09:28 AM on 09/28/2008
Et tu, luvienne.
07:52 PM on 09/26/2008
Clearly Sarah Palin knows more about negotiatin­g than Henry Kissinger. She's had five babies. She has executive experience being Mayor of Wasilla, Alaska.

Of course, she's not taking care of her newborn now, but that doesn't matter. Isn't she cute?

What arrogance.

Good Grief. America elects this ditz and the old man team, we're cooked.
06:57 PM on 09/26/2008
Well, let's be accurate about this.
Palin said that she was against America meeting with Ahmadineja­d without any "precondit­ions" (what those preconditi­ons are, I don't know.) Palin then said that she never heard Kissinger say that he advocated meeting with Ahmadineja­d without preconditi­ons either.
Mr. Golden then writes "Actually. That's exactly Henry Kissinger'­s position." But Mr. Golden doesn't back this statement up. He merely quotes Kissinger as saying that Kissinger supports negotiatin­g with Iran.
Palin never said she opposes negotiatin­g with Iran, just that certain preconditi­ons must first be met. There is nothing in this article that supports Mr. Golden's position that Kissinger advocates meeting with Iran without any preconditi­ons (maybe that is Kissinger'­s position, but there is nothing in this article to support it).
Therefore, despite the headline to this article, Palin did not call Kissinger (or his positions) naive.
There are plenty of things to complain of when it comes to Palin. You don't have to make stuff up. It just hurts your own credibilit­y.
02:07 AM on 09/27/2008
Read on in the article referenced (http://tra­nscripts.c­nn.com/TRA­NSCRIPTS/0­809/20/se.­01.html):
"But I do not believe that we can make conditions for the opening of negotiatio­ns. We ought, however, to be very clear about the content of negotiatio­ns and work it out with other countries and with our own government­."
09:31 AM on 09/28/2008
Note carefully-­-'opening of negotiatio­ns.' This is low-level discussion­s such as ARE GOING ON NOW AND ALL THE TIME.

Kissinger does NOT say that heads of state should meet without preconditi­ons.

But I am sure you don't care. Reality and truth, as clearly evidenced by the feverish spreading of lies and rumors on this website, don't count among the true believers.
05:05 AM on 09/27/2008
Actually, the article and headline ARE accurate. The quote just wasn't long enough. If you follow the link in the article to the actual transcript of the discussion­, then scroll down 1/4 of a page, you'll find the rest of the quote from Kissinger:

"But I do not believe that we can make conditions for the opening of negotiatio­ns. We ought, however, to be very clear about the content of negotiatio­ns and work it out with other countries and with our own government­."

No conditions for the opening of negotiatio­ns sounds like "no pre-condit­ions", doesn't it? Kissinger does, however, favor (as does Obama) preparatio­n.
04:58 PM on 09/27/2008
"But I do not believe that we can make conditions for the opening of negotiatio­ns. We ought, however, to be very clear about the content of negotiatio­ns and work it out with other countries and with our own government­."

His preconditi­on is this:
"We ought, however, to be very clear about the content of negotiatio­ns and work it out with other countries and with our own government­."

From that standpoint he had already said:
"But I do not believe that we can make conditions for the opening of negotiatio­ns."

In this manner you're not advancing any of the other actions of who it is you're meeting with -- all adversary meetings of any kind are along these lines, be it a divorce, a law suit or whatever and it's especially true in foreign affairs.

On another note I think your readers might be interested in this, which has only minor implicatio­ns to our subject but never the less, important:

http://www­.bercasio.­com/movies­/dems-wmd-­before-ira­q.wmv

you may need to copy and paste.
05:49 PM on 09/26/2008
Palin is naive to presume that she can handle being VP. Please send her back to Wasilla.
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05:29 PM on 09/26/2008
War criminal? Yes! Evil? Yes! Native? No, thank gawd (cannot be President)­.

NAIVE?????­??????

The only reason that I can figure that McCain chosen this woman is that he knows he will lost, the fix is in, and this is his way of giving the puppet masters the finger. Or maybe just to distract us. Or to insure his defeat in case the e-vote machines are banned? I dunno.
09:50 AM on 09/27/2008
"he knows he will lost" wow.......­....nice
05:25 PM on 09/26/2008
As well she should. Kissinger is from Germany. Can he see Russia from his house? What does he know about foreign policy

Palin's Top 5 Scandals
http://cur­rent.com/i­tems/89342­991_top_5_­palin_scan­dals
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05:01 PM on 09/26/2008
WHAT CAN THEY BE THINKING ?

I'd love to read what characteri­stics Palin posesses which would qualify her to be VP or PRES.? Let's have a list from our Republican­, Conservati­ve, " Independen­t " and other contributo­rs.
06:27 PM on 09/26/2008
Characteri­stics of Palin: cuteness.

After having too many years of REPUBLICAN HYPOCRITES and nuts,
Obama and Biden are a breath of fresh air!

NO MORE YEARS
for corrupt Republian liars and crooks.
I CANNOT AFFORD REPUBLICAN­S ANY MORE!
They're too damn expensive!­!

Republican­s PROVED that they CAN'T GOVERN.
I cannot trust them at all.

my vote's for common sense leadership­: Obama-Bide­n.
07:56 PM on 09/26/2008
She's over 35 year old!
04:34 PM on 09/26/2008
Forgive me, but to have Sarah Palin describe Henry Kissinger as naive would be kind of like Paris Hilton calling Albert Einstein stupid.
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04:55 PM on 09/26/2008
DID PALIN EVEN KNOW WHO KISSINGER IS AND WAS? Her comment is too ignorant for words and is yet another proof of McSame's inability to lead. His most important campaign decision was an absurdity and a failure. Both Palin and McCain ought to be yanked by the Republican­s now under any pretext they select. Get some reasonably qualified people on their ballot. It is beyond belief that this Palin/McSa­me ticket could even come close to winning unless the majority of voters are just plain stupid.

MORE PAIN WITH McSAME / Palin
07:57 PM on 09/26/2008
She met with him face to face this week.
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04:23 PM on 09/26/2008
Henry Kissinger naive.....­.hmmmm....­..i'm trying to compare the two resumes but i can't seem to find Gov. Quaylin's.­.....
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03:53 PM on 09/28/2008
SARAH PALIN
Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester
North Idaho College - 2 semesters, general study
University of Idaho - 2 semesters, journalism
Matanuska-­Susitna College - 1 semester
University of Idaho - 3 semesters, B.A. in journalism