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Gay Rights Across the Globe

Posted: 12/13/11 09:45 PM ET

In her speech on LGBT rights in recognition of International Human Rights Day, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton forcefully stated that "gay rights are human rights, and human rights are gay rights." The speech and other actions by President Obama commit U.S. foreign policy to advancing gay rights internationally.

An important aspect of the speech is the claim that "being gay is not a Western invention." Clinton made this point to counter claims by regimes that defend oppressive policies and laws against gay people as a reflection of local culture. Such regimes reject claims for gay rights as Western interference and explain their anti-gay stand as a valid anti-colonialist assertion of their independence. For example, recently, after Britain said that it would assess the state of gay rights (among other factors) when determining a country's eligibility for foreign aid, President Mugabe of Zimbabwe condemned Britain's Prime Minister David Cameron, saying, according to the Telegraph, that "homosexuality was inconsistent with African and Christian values." Clinton correctly noted that regardless of cultural and religious convictions, countries across the world have advanced gay rights. Notable among these is South Africa, whose constitution protects gay people.

I believe that Clinton's assertion that "being gay is not a Western invention" is important because it makes a foundational claim about the presence of a global gay person with a stable gay identity for whom civil rights can be claimed. Clinton describes LGBT people in language regularly used to refer to other groups, such as women and racial/ethnic minorities, that deserve human rights protections.

But this characterization of a gay identity -- as valid across national and cultural boundaries -- has been debated by academics. Already Clinton's speech has been criticized. For example, Jim Downs, on The Huffington Post, retorted: "Actually, being gay is a Western invention." Downs warns not only that Clinton's speech will not help gay rights but also -- echoing Mugabe -- that she "posits a familiar strand of American cultural imperialism."

Downs and other critics reject the idea that we can talk of a global gay person in the sense that Clinton describes when she said that "gay people are born into and belong to every society in the world." The critique is that by using terms like "gay" and "LGBT" globally, we inappropriately apply Western terms and ideas that bias our understanding of sexual orientation in non-Western regions of the world. Critics like Downs view sexual orientation and sexual identities as culturally bound, closely tied with Western cultures (and white Western cultures at that). Related to this is the critique that sexuality, however we understand it, is fluid and changeable. Because sexuality is fluid and sexual identity culturally bound, the critique continues, it is impossible (and even wrong) to talk of a gay person beyond the confines of white Western society and culture.

I disagree with this critique. To some extent gay identity is a Western invention (indeed, that can be said of the very notion of identity), but that misses the point. That identity and LGBT rights movements first emerged in the West does not make them improper for use by others. Indeed, the gay rights movement, like the women's and civil rights movements in the U.S. before them, have served as important (although not sole) models for the advancement of civil rights in the West and beyond.

The problem is that some of the critics have taken the idea, referred to as "social construction," that the meaning of sexual identity stems from social processes to suggest that it has no stable meaning at all. But in fact, social processes create strong and enduring meanings. Social construction theory teaches us that these meanings get transferred across generations and across national boundaries -- we learn about categories such as "gay" through social and cultural interactions.

It is such social processes that explain why we see some global convergences about the meaning (or construction) of LGBT identity. In many parts of the world, people -- and rights organizations -- have been using concepts of LGBT identity and community that had their origins in the West. But these are not simply mimicked; rather, concepts are intermingled and grow integrally with the local culture and history. In part, the increasing similarities across nations in using LGBT rights language may have resulted from cross-fertilization that comes with globalization and tourism. More generally, social processes unrelated to LGBT identity may have led to the emergence of rights discussions that have, in time, included a focus on LGBT rights.

This is not to say that there are no significant cultural variations in understanding and expressing sexual identity. And, of course, this is not to suggest that the actual words "gay," "lesbian," or "LGBT" are (or must be) used uniformly. LGBT identities and communities are different across the world (and even within our own culture), and meanings and understandings are continually in flux. The same is true of other social concepts: the ways we understand "woman" and "man," "black" and "white," or "Christian" are different, depending on culture and other social conditions.

Recognizing cultural differences should not preclude us from talking about women's rights, the rights of racial/ethnic minorities, or religious freedoms in language that is applicable globally. It is true, though, that by talking about LGBT rights globally or locally, we are conveying a value that is not shared by all. It is for that reason that I think Clinton's speech is important. She did not shy away from asserting that the U.S., with all its own imperfections, stands for civil rights for gay people globally.

 

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In her speech on LGBT rights in recognition of International Human Rights Day, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton forcefully stated that "gay rights are human rights, and human rights are gay rights."...
In her speech on LGBT rights in recognition of International Human Rights Day, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton forcefully stated that "gay rights are human rights, and human rights are gay rights."...
 
 
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DavidEm
Estne Volumen in Toga...?
11:04 PM on 12/15/2011
I don't buy the social construction arguments at all, when they're taken to the absurd extremes they have been taken to.

If you are a man who falls in love with other men, or a woman who falls in love with other women, some of the specifics of your relationship might be determined by culture, but the heart of it will be the same as for other gay people anywhere or in any time.

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iLdoRight
Encouraging The Rightest Rightness
11:38 AM on 12/15/2011
I still object to the use of the word "gay" to indicate a person who is not sexually orthodox.
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01:54 PM on 12/15/2011
Knock yourself out.
11:55 AM on 12/14/2011
Gay rights should only be a human rights issue. Thus, all gays should be protected under the law from harassment etc. However, just because 2 gays marry does not give them the right of family healthcare insurance and income tax related benefits. Those rights are afforded by "society" to couples who have the capacity to biologically have children, since raising children is a personal cost to the parents, but a benefit to "society" (i.e. continuation of the species.) Since all hetero and lesbian couples can reproduce, only they should be awarded such civil rights under marriage.

But 2 guys who marry should not get this privilege, because by definition they have excluded themselves from the breeding pool! Adoption of a baby (not a teenager!) may be acceptable under certain circumstances to qualify for civil benefits, but the Sandusky situation points out that this must be carefully monitored to avoid abuse. All couples should be allowed the right to inherit the estate of their partner, however.
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AdamWest1313
Hardcore Agnostic
07:01 PM on 12/14/2011
"Those rights are afforded by "society" to couples who have the capacity to biological­ly have children, " That is not true. If it was, then couples where one or both were infertile would not get those benefits. They do. So either you make it so gay couples do, or infertile couples don't, but you can not have it both ways. Additionally, gay couples can adopt and raise a child, which, with our current birth rate, is very important. So why not give them the benefits so they can raise children? Additionally, you can not give lesbians and heterosexuals benefits and not homosexuals. That is giving benefits based on gender, and would be considered unconstitutional.
06:02 AM on 12/15/2011
@smarting: You are obviously very uneducated. ALL people, straight, gay, male, female must look for the opposite s e x if they want to reproduce, however, they do NOT have to rely on heterosexuals to reproduce offspring (procreate): The DEFINITION of Procreation is to reproduce offspring, and there is NOTHIING in the definition that says procreation must be naturally. Male to female sex, artificial insemination, s p e r m and egg donation, IVF treatments, etc. are forms of PROCREATION; therefore, Heterosexuals AND Homosexuals can reproduce offspring (or procreate).

I know, you may not like it, you may not want to believe it, and it destroys the FALSE importance that you may have placed on heterosexuality, but it is a FACT: Heterosexuals are not needed for reproduction of offspring. Children can be born from the egg of a lesbian and s p e r m of a gay male. They can do it NATURALLY or with a third party (as heterosexuals OFTEN do) and either way, it does not automatically change their sexual orientation. Again, male s p e r m and a female egg are the requirements for procreation and reproduction, NOT a person’s sexual orientation (straight or gay).

Also, procreation is NOT a requirement for Straights or Gays to marry or have Civil/Equal Rights. Try EDUCATING yourself before making ignorant comments . . .
09:13 AM on 12/14/2011
Equal Rights for Gays is a Civil Rights issue. By DEFINITION, Civil Rights are a class of rights and freedoms that protect individuals from unwarranted action by government and private organizations and individuals and ensure one's ability to participate in the civil/political life of the state without discrimination/repression. The definition references individuals/citizens and NOWHERE does it say that Civil Rights are ONLY for a specific group (ie. Race, Women, Gays, Religion, Disabled, etc.). All of these groups need Civil Rights, for example, for safeguards they may enjoy or seek without constraint in the following areas: Rights in housing, jobs, public accommodations, equal access to government benefits, marriage equality, and equal protection of the law, etc.

Civil Rights/Equality are about many DIFFERENT Groups, and this is NOT about the DEGREE to which ANY group has been discrimina­ted against/mistreated­, or COMPARING one atrocity or STRUGGLE / PLIGHT to another. Many groups, ie. Blacks (and other races), Women, Jews, Gays, Religions, Disabled, etc. have HORRIFIC stories to tell about discrimina­tion and Unequal treatment aimed at their groups. The POINT is regardless of the horrific degree of discrimina­tion/atrocity, ALL of these groups should be given respect and Equal Rights. Whether you like or support a group or not is IRRELVANT: Most people are NOT looking for your approval, they just want the same rights as everyone else. You may not like Blacks, Women, Gays, Disabled, Religious people, etc, but ALL of these groups need/deser­ve Civil/Equal Rights.
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Jeff Forsythe
08:50 AM on 12/14/2011
I practice Falun Gong, which is a heart and mind cultivation practice available everywhere for free. This practice has over one hundred million adherents Worldwide. It consists of five exercises and basically nine lectures.
I consider myself very lucky because Falun Gong, also known as Falun Dafa, has allowed me to distinguish the difference between right and wrong concerning such difficult issues as gay rights, drug use, euthanasia, suicide, abortion and many other very important subjects. The practice is available on line and thank you for your consideration.
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BoFo
Like, you talkin' to me?
01:20 PM on 12/17/2011
So what IS your understanding "concerning such difficult issues as gay rights, drug use, euthanasia­, suicide, abortion and many other very important subjects"?

Knowing what you have come to understand about these issues would certainly help others to understand more about Falun Gong.
08:10 AM on 12/14/2011
To the people who try to use 'Choice' as a reason to deny Gay People Equal Rights, including gay marriage.: Choice vs. Non-choice is IRRELEVANT. Two Points. 1. I believe, as most reputable medical experts - APA, AMA, biologists, scientists, etc., that sexual orientation is NOT a choice. HOWEVER, even if it is a choice, that would mean heterosexuals are CHOOSING, the same way that a person CHOOSES (or just by saying so) their religion . . . This insinuation that IF sexual orientation is a choice (like Religion) then that somehow justifies inequality, discrimination, and bigotry is appalling, AND it shows the HYPOCRISY of people opposing Equal Rights (ie. Gay Marriage), when they don’t deny Equal Rights to Heterosexuals or Religious people, who may CHOOSE their sexual partner or religion . . . Many people CHOOSE divorce, bigotry, Drinking alcohol, a specific religion, Sex without marriage, oral sex, smoking, not following the Bible, etc. and many people think these things are WRONG, immoral and SINFUL, but people who do these activities are NOT denied Civil/Equal Rights. And don’t forget, many gays AND straights do some of the SAME things IN (ie. V, O, and/or A) and out of bed.

Based on the Choice logic, an argument could be made that heterosexuals, homosexuals, religious people, smokers, divorced people, single people, ex-cons, bigots, murderers, etc, should NOT have Equal Rights or be allowed to marry because of Choice.
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SteveMD2
01:06 AM on 01/01/2012
calling being gay a choice is simply blaming the victim of the hatred from religous conservatives.

And then we hear the rel. conservs saying they are being discrimianted

The whole scene stinks of blaming the victim while being the victimizer. Oldest poltiical trick in the book.
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Atwill
Proud Father of a gay son.
07:41 AM on 12/14/2011
Being gay has nothing to do with social behaviors or western ideas. Gays are born gay. Period. end of discussion. Doesnt matter where you are or what culture you were brought up. I can be born in a jungle and live like a native and never hear of anything modern and live with a tribe that is as primitive as cave people and still be born gay and still like / want the same sex. It has nothing to do with culture or up bringing or religion or exposure to other gays.
10:19 PM on 12/13/2011
In reality gay/ lesbian people can be categorized as a minority and essentially receive the same type of bias and prejudice as any other minority. So it just pisses me off when people will fight for equal rights for other minorities, but when it comes to gay/ lesbian people the negative criticism comes out. I grew up with 2 moms and I wish they were able to get married and not have to hide who they were to avoid confrontation. I love both of my moms and dad all the same.
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rockysparks
there's no law against being annoying.
12:49 AM on 12/14/2011
I'm a gay dad. I have seven adult children, six boys and a girl, biological, adopted and fostered (at this point, I mostly forget which are which). They obviously all have mothers, but for different reasons, I have been their primary custodial parent. Just one of those things. They're all grown now and are working on families of their own. One is deceased, two are gay and the rest are straight. Two of my kids have provided me with seven grandchildren.

We are a diverse family but very close, just the same. Like you, I get angry when people make stupid remarks about gay families and suggest that gay parents are not as good as families headed by two opposite-sex parents. It means that they haven't seen or refuse to acknowledge the mounting evidence to the contrary.

All I can say is that your generation and my kids' generation will have to make it your mission to continue helping people see the truth about gay families. We're no better and no worse than our straight counterparts. And the best way to prove that is in the way our kids live their lives --- with integrity, dignity and pride in who they are and who helped raise them to be that way.

Your righteous anger on behalf of your mothers is very powerful. Never stop standing up for them. Just remember every time they stood up for you, as I'm sure you do.
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Contact1972
Honey Badger Don't Care
12:53 AM on 12/14/2011
I grew up with 2 moms and I wish they were able to get married and not have to hide who they were to avoid confrontat­ion. I love both of my moms and dad all the same.
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Your parents should be very proud of you. Well said!

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SteveMD2
01:08 AM on 01/01/2012
I'm glad my 9 year old daughter in WI - she has or has had friends with two same sex parents.

Hi ABK, its dad in SPMD (my daughter reads on Huffington Post.)