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An American Imam Preaching Peace In Afghanistan

Posted: 09/27/11 01:47 PM ET

Every summer, I seem to find a way to depress myself. Last summer I, together with seven other Muslim-American leaders, visited Nazi concentration camps in Poland and Germany where we witnessed the horrific legacy of the Holocaust. This past summer, I spent the first 10 days of Ramadan in Afghanistan. It was very painful to witness the bleeding wounds of Afghan society as a result of four decades of war and destruction. It is not very well-known fact here in the U.S., but Afghanistan produced a heartless communist regime, a brutal theocracy, and went through the invasions by two superpowers and numerous other calamities in one person's lifetime.

I was primarily invited by the Afghanistan Academic and Islamic Research Center (AAIRC) led by an inspirational Muslim leader Mawlana Ataurrahman Saleem, who aims to spread and promote moderate and peaceful teachings of Islam through this organization. I saw it clearly that this breath of fresh air religious think-tank and saintly scholars behind it are up to mountainous tasks in Afghanistan because Islam, as it is understood and practiced by most Muslim scholars in the country, has been nothing but a curse and has been pulling the entire nation down. Religion clearly became a source of oppression, despair and destruction in the hands of the Afghani religious leadership, which represents one of the most troubling interpretations of Islam. Afghanistan is a prime example of how religion can turn into something destructive in a deeply broken society.

I travelled extensively in central and Northern Afghanistan during my 10 days. I gave several talks mainly to Ulama and met with government officials and representatives of various NGOs. Almost everyone I met in the country complained and grieved about the worrisome reality of the role of religion and religious leadership. I was able to get my own "taste" of this grim reality in my personal interactions with hundreds of religious scholars that I talked to. I was primarily dismayed how uninformed and uneducated these people were in various Islamic Studies. It doesn't take too much for any learned Muslim to realize that these Muslim leaders actually know very little about Islamic theology, history and philosophy. Their training is limited to a very selective and literalist approach filled and mixed with many troubling cultural and traditional practices.

A telling example: I was told that women are not allowed to enter the mosques in Afghanistan. I honestly shared my dismay and disapproval of this practice wherever I spoke. I challenged scholars to show me any Islamic justification for this practice. This upset many Ulama. One of the leading ones in his defense of the practice said that there is a verse in the Quran that clearly says "women are incomplete in their rationale and in their religion." He was referring to a controversial "hadith," or "saying of the prophet," which was said in a very specific context -- thinking that it is a verse in the Holy Quran. I immediately pulled out my pocket Quran and extended to him as I asked him to show me where the verse is in the Quran! Through numerous similar encounters with these religious leaders, I was convinced that none of them could pass the graduation exams in any divinity schools in the Muslim world. These Afghani religious leaders' views and practices on women, religious violence / extremism and non-Muslims, are the most painful ones. Despite their troubling views, they are very powerful, and they have a captive audience in the mosques where they pretty much run the whole show in the area of religion with no real competition.

I have been constantly reflecting since I left Afghanistan how come this kind of horrible religious interpretation could resonate with so many people in Afghanistan? How can a beautiful religion, which sustains me and hundreds of millions of others, turn into something ugly, harmful and poisonous like that? I am getting increasing clarity, as I review my memories and notes over and over, that the answers to the questions are neither religious nor political but pastoral and psychological.

I believe the real destruction took place in the mental and psychological worlds of Afghanis. As a chaplain, I went through years of challenging but rewarding training in the area of mental health, especially in post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) recovery. Almost everyone I met in Afghanistan was revealing different levels of PTSD symptoms. Many of them were in a constant state of grief because of what they had been through. Here in the U.S., we just went through the 10th anniversary of 9/11. Remember the amount of grief we Americans, rightly so, revealed in response to this one day of barbaric attacks which claimed more than 3,000 lives? Undoubtedly, everyday was 9/11 for Afghanis in the last 40 years or so. Generations grew up seeing nothing but bloodshed and murder.

This analogy is not an attempt to justify or even endorse what is going on in Afghanistan, but a humble appeal to empathize with these wounded people. Try to walk in their shoes by comparing some of our similar wounds and hurt. I think our foreign, military and economic policies should be shaped by this kind of pastoral approach. We should seek advice from various mental health professionals and include them to our team as we design our efforts towards Afghanistan. I think if we do not understand the scarred souls of Afghanis, we will continue to limit ourselves to militaristic or cheap economic solutions in our aid efforts to Afghanistan. Most of what we say will end up become blaming the victim and adding insult to their injuries.

Where am I going next summer? I don't know but it is really hard to beat Afghanistan.

 
Every summer, I seem to find a way to depress myself. Last summer I, together with seven other Muslim-American leaders, visited Nazi concentration camps in Poland and Germany where we witnessed the ho...
Every summer, I seem to find a way to depress myself. Last summer I, together with seven other Muslim-American leaders, visited Nazi concentration camps in Poland and Germany where we witnessed the ho...
 
 
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PATOISJAM
reason: strategize: succeed
09:29 AM on 09/29/2011
It is pity that men under the influence of religion can do nothing but make people sad. Life is such a burden and these religions add to it with their endless rules and regulations that do not amount to a hill of peas.

How does a woman entering into a mosque to say prayers present a problem and demean the religion? All men, with the exception of the perfect man Adam, were born from a woman. This is not to say that women should be glorified, but why not dignify women from whom they came? If women are considered next to nothing then what of the fruit of her belly? Shouldn’t it be next to nothing too? If can get only dirty out of dirty.

All religion should be penalized, and heavily, when they create havoc, mistrust, instigate hate, distrust, and discord. If a religion does not encourage love among its followers and toward others, then it is not a religion at all. It is just an organization that needs to be proscribed.
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05:36 PM on 09/28/2011
What this Imam is doing is quite admirable. It takes a great level of courage and honesty to take such a hard look at what the Afghani variant of Islam is doing to that country rather than pretending it's not a problem or chalking it up to a fringe group.

Often, critics of Islam are told that Islam is a peaceful and beautiful religion at its core and that those who practice it in a violent and oppressive way are wrong in doing so. It's long been my stance that the latter group of people are the ones who really need to hear that message. When I or some other western "Islamophobe" misinterprets Islam as being all about subjugating women and killing the infidel, by and large the worst thing that happens is that we go online, make a nasty post or two about it and somebody's feelings get hurt. When muslims misinterpret Islam in that way, the consequences are far worse. What Antepli is doing in Afghanistan will hopefully be of help to the people of that country, who, as he rightly mentions, bear the brunt of Islamic violence more than anyone, but it can also serve to help Islam's image to people in the west who really need to see that there are muslims stepping up to do something about the violent strains of their religion.
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Tolerant
See perfection in every situation
06:33 PM on 09/28/2011
Sorry, I accidentally flagged your post abusive. My sincere apologies. I was moving my cursor over to flag as Favorite, but the laptop's touchpad decided to click the wrong button.

Please forgive me.

Thanks,
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07:32 PM on 09/28/2011
*chukles* not a problem, if nothing else it's good for a laugh that's what is probably the least critical post I've made since signing up here is the one that gets flagged. Apology unnecessary but accepted.
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Tolerant
See perfection in every situation
03:38 PM on 09/28/2011
"A telling example: I was told that women are not allowed to enter the mosques in Afghanistan. I honestly shared my dismay and disapproval of this practice wherever I spoke. I challenged scholars to show me any Islamic justification for this practice. This upset many Ulama. One of the leading ones in his defense of the practice said that there is a verse in the Quran that clearly says "women are incomplete in their rationale and in their religion." He was referring to a controversial "hadith," or "saying of the prophet," which was said in a very specific context -- thinking that it is a verse in the Holy Quran."

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To me, this beautifully and eloquently sums up the problems we Muslims are in today.

There exist currents within Islam that are quite destructive.

Imagine if America ever left Afghanistan, leaving the Afghanis to to sort things out for themselves!

The types of ignorant "Ulema" that the author refers to will likely to come to power.

Just imagine the destruction they will then wreak!
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Damn Damien
Naturally!
05:24 PM on 09/28/2011
"Imagine if America ever left Afghanista­n ..."
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They should leave immediately.
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05:54 PM on 09/28/2011
One of the more depressing aspects of that war is that we've been there 10 years and it's still at a point where the moment we leave all hell will break loose, to a greater degree than it already has. If we stay another 10, 30, 50 years, it's unlikely that that aspect of the situation will change. If there was a chance that we could bring order to that part of the world, it would have happened by now.
03:01 PM on 09/28/2011
Bravo for courage to say the problem is mental illness caused by harsh stress egin with the beginning in the beginning was the beginning in the interest of time just mention 1923 royal constitution of aghanland [ e.g. free education for all ..no discrimination against jews and hindus ]

when afghnaland was a functioning economy an das peaceful as america is today it had a king but republicans got rid of th eking eh voila .

so very briefly simple believers in democracy are part of the problem asare simplistic beleivers in godless capitalism [ Note: freedom is neccessary but democracy is not freedom defacto and in fact no-one knows what freedom is simply put freedom is obeying th elaw of gravity ]

as for peace itself " peace is the automatic result of experience of Bliss" is the Maharishi's teachings
the Imam at Duke is experiencing a bit more bliss than anyone in afghaland today ergo he is mor epeaceful
americais mor epeacefull becaus eits upper class and upper middle class is functioning [andnot exploiting thelower classes too badly ] aghanistan 's upper classes have fled the country so it is without that stable foundation. conditions must be created so that these million good people can return to afghanland etc Bliss ultimately means satchitananda , the transcendental field therefore ONLY practic eof TM and TM Siddhi prgram actually results in peace
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sandalwood
songs of the shamans...
02:10 PM on 09/28/2011
Imam Entepli, you could go to London UK next, and check out the Deobandi seminaries (the Taliban is after all Deobandi), and see the extremism and hatred for any way other than theirs. BBC has made a few documentries on the subject.

Here's one... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ0rsUofpQM
Here is a review of the documentary by Riazat Butt, in the Guardian, UK... http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2011/feb/17/lessons-in-hate-and-violence-muslim-extremism

If these people can't even get along with others in the UK, teaching hatred instead, then what hope in Afghanistan where they are the extremist majority? Another project for your kind attention.
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Damn Damien
Naturally!
03:09 PM on 09/28/2011
Wow. Thanks for the link to the video.

I knew the situation was bad, but didn't know it had sunk to such depths. This is absolutely unacceptable!
03:11 PM on 09/28/2011
Sandalwood, welcome back,

Off the subject at hand,

I have been challenged in other posts about my statement that science is a myth just as any other myth. Like many things learned in college I remember the general idea but not the specifics. However I decided to refresh my memory by searching for my inner intuitive understanding of what I mean when I say science is myth, and I found what I meant in an article I am sure you would be interested in.

Science and Myth: The Hidden Connection

http://www.worldwisdom.com/uploads/pdfs/237.pdf
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Lightwins
We are all one
01:05 PM on 09/28/2011
"If you look back at history or you look at any place in the world where religious groups or ethnic groups or racial groups or political groups are killing each other, or families have been feuding for years and years, you can see that there will never be peace until somebody softens what is rigid in their heart."
--Pema Chodron
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WesStrikesBack
A winegrowing secular humanist
11:46 AM on 09/28/2011
You should be proud that you are defending your religion against those that would corrupt it.

Even though I am an avowed atheist, I do believe that the world would be better if more scholarly and peaceful Muslims, like yourself, would stand up to reclaim your religion from those that would use it as a tool of oppression and violence.

Cheers, and watch your back!
10:41 AM on 09/28/2011
Everones best buddy Saudi is the source of this hatred and confusion, but who will say that let alone stop them?
10:22 AM on 09/28/2011
There's no such thing as a "beautiful religion", friend. For every 1,000 moderates, there will be 1 extremist.

The only answer is to abandon such primitive superstitions and begin living in the modern era.
12:28 PM on 09/28/2011
So the religious people should abandon their religions because "For every 1,000 moderates, there will be 1 extremist.", even though how you pulled off that ration is beyond me?

But even in the modern era, there are criminal elements, many of them non-religious!

If your line of argument were to be applied, we'd need to abandon "living in the modern era".

Sincerely,
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Damn Damien
Naturally!
05:14 PM on 09/28/2011
No. They should abandon them because at best it preaches Bronze Age superstition and ignorance, and at worst it preaches extremism and violence; in between it is hollow.
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11:19 AM on 09/29/2011
it's and will forever remain to stay a primitive superstition.that was the point made.you missed it!?you abandon it for that rational.straight and simple.
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04:58 PM on 09/30/2011
In a perfect world, yes, people would drop religion entirely. Since it's not going to happen, it's at least a step in the right direction for practitioners of said religions to attempt to rein in the more troublesome aspects of their given denominations.
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alkh3myst
Of course you can pay me in gum!
07:19 AM on 09/28/2011
Masha' Allah. May Allah grant the Mawlana taufeeq (success) in his mission to spread the true teachings of Islam in a place where it has become corrupted, Ameen.
09:51 AM on 09/28/2011
You mean corrupted in Afghanistan Pakistan Saudi Arabia Somalia and Iran to name few?
06:38 AM on 09/28/2011
It's the occupation silly....
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Ami Toben
Plenty more where that came from
05:25 AM on 09/28/2011
The most peaceful and prosperous countries in the world are the ones that focus on studying and research, not on preaching.
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alkh3myst
Of course you can pay me in gum!
07:06 AM on 09/28/2011
Well, there's nothing peaceful about THIS country.

http://academic.evergreen.edu/g/grossmaz/interventions.html
08:03 AM on 09/28/2011
That actually proves his point.
11:55 AM on 09/28/2011
Ami Toben
Which countries are they? You now have approximately 196 to judge on your peace and prosperity index. Of course one minor problem is that we can't agree on how many countries there are.

Would it be helpful to judge which countries people attempt to MOVE TO compared to which countries people struggle to MOVE FROM?
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Ami Toben
Plenty more where that came from
04:03 PM on 09/28/2011
You might find the wealth Vs religiosity section from the Pew research center quite interesting:
http://www.pewglobal.org/2007/10/04/world-publics-welcome-global-trade-but-not-immigration/
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Jelle NL
Unity in Diversity
04:41 AM on 09/28/2011
Is it possible to invite these Afghan religious leaders into some kind of modern Islamic training program?
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MilesToGo
05:03 AM on 09/28/2011
Yes. Madrasa reform & enhancement is actually happening, and American Muslims, as this story reveals, are effective even while being hampered in countless ways. Real models for success are underway in Pakistan, and will realize headway in Afghanistan.
01:01 PM on 09/28/2011
Jelle NL
Well maybe, there is the limiting problem of logistics, even for the invititations themselves. If you send them in 2nd day delivery packages, even UPS, the master of logistics, cant reach a majority of them. Then of course there is the ongoing interference prone Taliban competition. If the leaders leave the villages for training, the village receives new leaders, already thoroughly trained in Pakistan, that hub of traditional Islam.

The u.s. seems to want to provide Afghanistan with a stable government who will go forth and gain power and control over the numerous mountain villages, sometimes protected by u.s. troops. It is not working too well, so far.
12:11 AM on 09/28/2011
When Muhammad died, real Islam died. It became something else in the mind of every Muslim alive then and continues today. There are 1.6 billion Islams and counting. None are true Islam. But each one is as valid as another in the mind of the individual. Some individuals form into groups which seem to have more weapons to demonstrate the strength of their particular interpretation. To say that ones' own Islam is more or less real than yours is ludicrous and dishonest. It does keep the rest of the world confused and at bay trying to appease the most vociferous and threatening of the lot.
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AxisV
How do we sleep while our beds are burning?
02:32 AM on 09/28/2011
This made absolutely no sense.
08:49 AM on 09/28/2011
AxisV
...to whom - who are you? Must Islam make sense to you, whoever you are?
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MilesToGo
05:07 AM on 09/28/2011
It's ludicrous for you to imagine you understand "real" Islam. Muhammad's legacy and the growth and expansion of Islam can hardly be denied by your incoherent and solipsistic post.
09:03 AM on 09/28/2011
MilesToGo
In one sense you actually get the point. Islam is a revealed life way which includes what we now, in some parts of the world, call politics and religion and society. When the revealer dies, ALL becomes interpretation, ie not real, only opinion, not Gods dictation. Growth of Islam is man making use of the unifying power of a system claiming the authority of God as its motivating force. In Islam, solipsism is not a correct identity because each individual DOES exist and must submit to the authority known as Allah, as dictated by a man who died and can't be asked for clarification.

You do have miles to go...
11:26 AM on 09/28/2011
MilesToGo
We ALL have miles to go, and to acknowledge that is a point of maturity. As we travel, we do well to feel and to listen to the winds seemingly opposing our journey. Those encounters may serve to strengthen and to enhance our resolve to hear and to see and to know.
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Demarcus Jackson
Southern Psychology Professor
11:23 PM on 09/27/2011
As long a religious thinking pervades Afghanistan, there will never be peace.
01:57 AM on 09/28/2011
The problem with Afghanistan is not religion, but lack of it. The Islam that the Taliban follows is so far away from the mainstream teachings of Islam. If the Taliban were to follow the real Islam, all the problems you see on TV would fade away.
10:04 AM on 09/28/2011
SO Islam in the East is corrupted and Islam in the West is the correct one?
10:23 AM on 09/28/2011
Lack of religion is never a problem.
07:00 AM on 09/28/2011
What of the occupation?